The Heart Of Show Business With Alexia Melocchi
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Comedy as a Healing Journey with Craig Shoemaker
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When life throws you curveballs, sometimes all you can do is laugh—as I chat with comedian, producer, writer Craig Shoemaker, who pivoted from childhood adversity to a celebrated career in comedy.
Now also a best selling author and an in -demand motivational speaker, Craig spills the beans on using humor as a lifeline and the secret to keeping it real in an industry that's anything but. From his early days of using laughter to connect with others, he discusses his coaching program "Winning with Humor" as well as his "Still Standing Up" podcast show. Craig's candid revelations on personal and professional challenges, including a dramatic encounter that could've changed the course of his life, demonstrate the potency of storytelling and the cathartic release only a good chuckle can provide.
Feel like you're stuck on repeat with the usual "good" and "fine" responses? Let's shake things up! In our lively discussion, we unveil the transformative power of tweaking your daily language—think 'fantastic' over 'good'—to shift your perspective.
Finally, Craig and I dissect the art of radical acceptance, emphasizing how embracing people as they are can mend and deepen relationships. Through laughter, we tackle the tough stuff—forgiveness, accountability, and the social faux pas of admitting when you're wrong. So, buckle up for an enlightening ride with one of entertainment's most insightful jesters, because this episode is more than just fun—it's a journey of healing and discovery that you won't want to miss.
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Welcome to the heart of show business. I am your host, alexia Melocchi. I believe in great storytelling and that every successful artist has a deep desire to express something from the heart to create a ripple effect in our society. Emotion and entertainment are closely tied together. Emotion and entertainment are closely tied together. My guests and I want to give you insider access to how the film, television and music industry works. We will cover dreams come true, the road less traveled journey beginnings and a lot of insight and inspiration in between. I am a successful film and television entrepreneur who came to America as a teenager to pursue my show business dreams. Are you ready for some unfiltered real talk with entertainment visionaries from all over the world? Then let's roll. Sound and action.
Speaker 2So hello to all the listeners of the heart of show business. This is a very special episode that is sponsored by the Eden Magazine. Craig Schumacher is going to be also Schumacher. Ooh, I wanted to make you like the race car driver.
Speaker 3Can I?
Speaker 2knock.
Speaker 3I like to say you make shoes. You don't mock shoes, Unless they're Crocs. Those you can mock. You know what the holes are for, so your self-esteem can slip out I have five pair, so I can knock.
Speaker 2I can knock the croc see, but see, I was gonna make you a race car driver because I mean so I'm like schumacher, I'm like I'm not off the boat from bavaria, just a little shoemaker.
Speaker 3They changed it I guess in ellis island or something. But yeah, that's, it's a little shoemaker. They changed it I guess in Ellis Island or something.
Speaker 2But yeah, it's Craig.
Speaker 3Shoemaker, but you're not the first person to make me into a Formula One driver.
Speaker 2There you go, there you go, and I got away with it because I'm Italian, so I can make up all those things. And me, born in Italy, I cannot get broke.
Speaker 3I just say I'm from Philadelphia. I do the same thing you do with Italy. See, there you go. Sorry, I'm from Philadelphia. Sorry, I'm from Philadelphia. I live in LA. So I'm like stuck between Namaste and kiss my ass. That's where I live. I live in that space.
Speaker 2I love that, yes, which kind of makes me think about, of course, you know anybody who's listening Craig Shoemaker not the race car driver the world renowned comedian, author, producer, writer. I mean, where do I start? He's now coming up with a course. I mean he's done it all right. So he's, you know, he's won awards as a comedian, he's had his own shows, he goes on tour, I mean, and of course he, he went on his own spiritual journey, which is really interesting, which I'm going to ask you about. I mean, it's, that's an interesting combination.
Speaker 3Like I said, kiss my ass with namaste so yeah, it's true, and, by the way, I do have a lot of awards and accolades, as you were saying emmys and best comedian of the year and all that but I want to tell you I don't want to brag, but I'll show you this I won the horse's ass award at my ex-wife's family reunion and this, I've earned this trophy. Okay, that is my proudest moment.
Speaker 2I should tell you who I am, but uh, it really, yeah, it really kind of makes me wonder, of course, because of you perform for presidents and everything, but how do you really use comedy in your day-to-day life? Because I mean, your life must be a comedy show on its own, given you volunteer the information about your personal journeys.
Speaker 3It's all about the personal journey. My comedy is about that and no one can cancel me, which they're doing so much of these days. If you share an experience of yourself, people can't really cancel it, debate it or be angry about it, because it's your personal experience. If I have an experience of saying the wrong word, for instance, which I've done, often like very bad, a very bad texter because I have big thumbs and it doesn't understand my Philadelphia accent. So I have things that come out, like I'm on this dating app and I had an office. I said meet me in my office. It's on Via Colinas, right, that's the name of the street and it came out meet me on Vehicle Anus. But I talk about these mistakes that I make. You can't be mad at the language or whatever it is, because that's what happened. You can't be mad at an opinion, and I teach a lot of this is being your own genuine energy flow. You mentioned the word flow earlier.
Speaker 3Genuine energy flow is everything. It's who you are authentically. We are all born this way until we get programmed and conditioned.
Speaker 2Yes, which is all based on.
Speaker 3We get programmed and conditioned, yes, which is all based on fear and doubt and limitation. You have all these things on your resume. It's because I believe in abundance and I live it, though it's not just something I'd just say, oh yeah, I read a book. No, I live every day with. I don't care, you're not going to label me and put me in a box. I came up with a food concept. I'm a comedian. I came up with this food concept and one of the biggest chefs in the world is partnering with me now Based on just something that I came up with, and I developed it and I went with my creator, the great creator within. If we tap into it, it's filled with potency. You don't want to tamp that down by some limitation and something. I need to label you. You're just a comedian or whatever it is. So I that's really. What I'm about is not only that for myself, but sharing how to get there with others yeah, yeah, I love that because you know what I think creativity cannot be boxed in.
Speaker 2I really believe that, and so whenever I'm encountering people who are, as they call them, multi-hyphenates before used to be I'm a master juggler, that's what I call myself because I have so many hats but now it's cool to be a master juggler or multi-hyphenate, right.
Speaker 2And I love when you talk about not censoring yourself during your comedy shows and I know we're going to talk about, of course, the mindset stuff, which is really what the Eden Magazine is about. But I'm curious because we are living in probably the in spite of how we're in America, the land of the free, we are living in the most censored time ever. I think, of course I'm a young girl. Young girl, I'm a young woman. I'm not a girl, I'm a young woman in my you know quote unquote early 50s. I still call myself a girl, but the thing is that we are all being censored and every time something comes out of your mouth if it doesn't fit, whatever society wants you to believe in that moment, then you get canceled, just like you said. So I love what you said about the fact that you're drawing from real life, so they really can't cancel you out, because you're speaking about your life and your experience, right.
Speaker 3Even if the experience is saying the wrong word. You know, I was talking the other day. I said you know, I grew up in a day where blowing a tranny was not in an alley. Now I watched your face when I said that Everybody goes, oh, everybody. Can he say that? Yeah, I can.
Speaker 2You can, you can on my show.
Speaker 3That's what I meant. It was a transmission. You might make something else into it because you're a virtue singular. That's not looking inside of yourself. If you're going to judge and try to take me down for something that it could be a mistake, it's all about intention. A comedian's intention is a great intention. We want to uplift, inspire and make you laugh period. If you don't get it, then that's your problem or you can move on to another comedian. You don't need to cancel the comedian because you didn't understand the joke or have any sort of texture to it or context. There's no research into that. We're now basing things on immediate responses that have no depth. You want to go deeper. You'll find yourself, and in finding yourself you're not going to want to take anyone else down. You're actually going to be curious and ask them about what they meant or delve deeper, Go into yourself and this is something that I did to the maximum and such transformation is taken.
Speaker 3It's not just the word transformation people bandy about. This is literal, trans transformation, where I've had healings with my mom I didn't speak to for six years and I can't wait to talk to my mom now. These are the experiences I have and how did I get there. It's from not living in these boxes that you were talking about. Just live in the infinite, and how beautiful is that. That's what we're meant to do.
Speaker 3But now we get in these lines and you get in these groups. I left. I was a big lefty and I left the left this year because of the intolerance. I was there because I thought it was a tolerant group. I thought this was a group of compassion and empathy.
Speaker 3No, not at all. Only what they choose is woke. What they choose is the marginalized person. What they choose is the hashtag. What they choose is trending. You can't trend on these things. It's not a trending topic. You don't get to choose what is woke for you and it has to be for someone else. Ask someone else how they feel. Don't just put a label on them.
Speaker 3That's a white male saying that and therefore they have done this in a press for centuries. Yeah, but you know what you create every white male. If you want to be a woman, create every single penis. Woman gave birth to every single penis. That's out there. So let's try to embrace one another and work towards unity, not such division where I'm just going to label you and put you out, Put you out to pasture, because I've decided this. It's virtue signaling. It's people that think that they're going to make themselves feel better. The masking situation that's what went on. Nobody knew anything, but they chose a group, they got into an echo chamber and they repeated it Meanwhile. Step back and look at what idiots you were. First of all, it didn't work. Second of all, you had your nose sticking out while you're trying to tell me to wear a mask and it's like putting a condom on your testicles. It does no purpose. It has no purpose.
Speaker 3They don't even want to laugh at that. How insane things were. My golf club the hole was filled. They filled the hole with foam so the ball didn't go to the bottom like covid's down at the bottom of a golf hole. Oh my god, that is if we were talking about.
Speaker 2You go to the restaurant and you have to wear a mask, but then you sit down and you take off your mask, so like it takes a break when you're eating chicken bone.
Speaker 3I have food. I'm building a perimeter. No COVID can come near me. I have protein. But people jumped in and, with anger, resentment and righteousness, wouldn't listen to the comedians who were saying hey, we might be a little dumb here, we might be following something that shouldn't be followed, but no, and that's what I left the left. I'm not going to go right either.
Speaker 2It's a bunch of, bunch of you're gonna be an indie thinker, like all of us. Hopefully I'm gonna be slowly right, which is so great. But I love what you said because you know what. Again, we don't want to be too deep into the politics and religious and sex, because you know, you know that's that's the we all taboo in America and sometimes it might be, you know, tipping the people off. But in Italy I'm Italian we sit and have dinner and we could you and I could be having an argument about completely different one of you. We're having pasta and then after a while we drink a glass of wine and we forget we even have this conversation because it's about life, you, it's part of life. You have to have beliefs. You have to have, you know, ways that you think points of view. Why just points of view and argue, want to hit each other in the head for a minute. Then you go play basketball or you play cards. Who cares right?
Speaker 3why not learn? I? I have an acronym for ego. It's so much in charge, it's evading growth opportunity. Every time you let your ego run the show, you have to be right, you have to dominate, you have to control, you have to try to manipulate results. Anytime you do that, you are evading your own growth opportunity, because you could step back and actually listen to a different perspective, one that's not in your echo chamber. You choose these echo chambers, whether it's religion or politics, or politicians or government, or whatever it is the mass media, you choose that group. So now you're choosing the media to decide that. Your vetting process. Yeah, they're going to decide and I can guarantee you they'll never bite the hand that feeds them. Who's sponsoring them? You're not going to hear the other side. It just won't happen. So, logically, look at that. So my new book is called Get Out of Line and Into Alignment. Ooh, okay, your true spirit. It will inform everything.
Speaker 2That's fantastic.
Speaker 3It will also make you laugh Laugh at the irony, laugh at the hypocrisy, laugh at our failures, laugh at our rumbles, stumbles, fumbles, crumbles and tumbles. Laugh at it.
Speaker 2Oh, I love that.
Speaker 3And what?
The Healing Power of Laughter
Speaker 2about your course. Let's talk about your course because I saw it online and you know it has modules, and so you know why did you create it? And what are people? What are the expectations that people are going to get? What do they get out of it? They're going to have the different modules. It's going to be homework, like. Is it going to be you talking? Tell me a little bit about why you created that, because, of course and you know, I'm sure it came out of your life experience. Hello, right, so yeah.
Speaker 3Everything that I do comes out of life experience. There's nothing that I'm going to tell you that I haven't done, and here's the results of it. I'm going to share that with you. I say it's like sharing grapes. I have these delicious grapes that I find delicious. I will share them with you. You might say, no, I like green grapes, not red grapes, craig, or share them with you. You might say no, I like green grapes, not red grapes, craig. Or I don't want seeds. Or you might say I'm going to throw them back at you, but I'm sharing these with you and it's your choice whether you would like the grapes or go for the grapes or not. So I share these life experiences with people and I can't say anything about what they do with it. They're either going to do it and I do one thing.
Speaker 3You said homework. It's interesting. You say that I call them fun assignments. Having the word fun Words have a lot of meaning for people and just that alone. I had a woman said. She said I went to Catholic school. If you told me to do homework, I'm not going to do it, sorry, but she did the fun assignments and had fun doing it, and it shifts her energy into a whole other state of consciousness and mindfulness. That's what happens when you laugh, that's what happens when you have joy, and it's such an amazing experience. Again that I've had is seeing how people have transformed before my eyes by just doing some of these things. Well, the other thing I do is I did it this morning with someone I go how are you doing? You know you always say that's your opening line, right? Well, let me ask you what's your opening line? Let's be honest now to say immediately your response every time someone says how you doing, go ahead.
Speaker 2Oh to me.
Speaker 3I'm just dandy. Dandy, I love the word dandy. Now, dandy, what you did was you made me smile, shifted my vibration just by saying I'm dandy. Do you see how words, energy follows thought, exactly Words. So so this morning he goes I guess I'm good, he's guessing he's good. So how do you think that makes me feel? Do you think I think he's doing well? No, but he can shift his whole health at everything by just going. You know, I say to the people I go, come up with your word. So ask me how I'm feeling, how are you feeling? Fantastic. Every time I say fantastic to my mom, she goes that's what I like to hear, but it's like a recording. I can make her say it every single time. How are you doing, craig? Fantastic. And our energy has shifted into the most beautiful healing you've ever seen in your life.
Speaker 3We didn't speak for six years. It was bleak. There was no way I was done. I was like you know, I've done everything I can.
Speaker 3And then I got into this real state of radical acceptance of who she is and I got into gratitude about who she is and what she gave me. She's funny as hell. And now look what I've all the money I made being funny and we have the greatest relationship and she could still do what they say pushing buttons. She can still do all that motherly stuff that they do and it doesn't matter, it's meaningless, it's just her being her and it's all OK, and that radical acceptance.
Speaker 3She doesn't have to be the mother I thought you know in quotes that I thought she should be and yeah, she did some terrible things you know one would regard as terrible, but it's okay and, by the way, much less terrible. Things like almost to zero now because I made this new space. She's safe now with me. She's not on defense of me saying you're a lousy mother. What does that put? What kind of position does that put her in defensive? She's not going to be herself now. She's able to be herself and it's so. The other word I use is magnificence. It's like this, is it?
Speaker 3spectacular I love I love that word too. Yeah, yeah, and boku fabu, whatever it is, you are saying that you know you are setting a frequency.
Speaker 3That's just. It's immeasurable. Yeah, what you're doing just by responding like that and these are the little things that I teach, and I teach big things as well, Things that you can do to recondition the programming that has you in line in people's lines, complying with their wishes and demands and commands. And that's how we live in this society, including when you're arguing, you're making their arguments for them. You're doing the work for these very wealthy people that are in charge of the narrative. You're doing their job by going against people that are saying something like questioning, like oh, that sounds like the water's being poisoned. Ah, you conspiracy theorist. You know, whatever it is, that's what they want you to do. They want you to say not all corporations are bad. Well, how about we look at this one, you know, and try to improve things? It's the only way it can happen is to have that dialogue and do so with fun and making fun of ourselves and things that we believed at one time.
Speaker 3And it's okay to admit these things. But admitting wrong is another problem with our society. People aren't accountable. I'm dealing with a guy right now. If he had a gun to his head, he wouldn't say he was wrong. He's doing some really wrong things. Wow, if he had a gun to his head he would not say he was wrong. He's doing some really wrong things.
Speaker 2Wow, he had a gun to his head. He would not say I'm wrong and I'm sorry. That's how many people are right.
Speaker 3I mean, how many self-righteous people are there, out there. I ask anybody listening right now to take a pause, take a breath. Ha ha ha is a cleansing word, by the way. Ha, that's what I believe in the word of the God of ha Ha, ha, ha ha, hallelujah. Right, that's what you do when you laugh. Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2Laughter yoga right. Everybody loves laughter yoga. Same. Thing.
Speaker 3I teach guided lapitation. You can meditate, you can do the lapitate and you end up levitating. So it's really something. It's like a bullet train to your higher source, god light, whatever you want to call it. It's a bullet train there. Once you laugh, everything's removed. All your fears, doubts, worries, disease, illness, pain it's all relieved when you're laughing. Depression and laughter can't exist in the same space. If you're laughing, you can't be depressed at that time. So it's amazing to me. But you know what? The big cats out there with all the money, they don't want you to believe that laughter is the best medicine, because you're carrying around your own pharmacy and nobody profits from that. They profit from your fear and I'm here to coach people into a whole new realm of possibility. That's what I coach.
Speaker 2I love that, craig, and you know going with the comedy again. I mean, let me ask you something. So was your why your original? Why when? Obviously I don't know if you started writing first and then became a comedian or it became at the same time but was it a why to give to do almost like your own self-therapy by giving service of comedy, or was it an immediately let me be of service to someone else through comedy, or was it kind of like a little bit of both?
Overcoming Adversity With Grace and Humor
Speaker 3Well, I can tell you a story Again. I can tell you a story of when it kind of came clear to me what the purpose was and what laughter was really about and how it is healing. I have an organization called Laughter Heals, a nonprofit I formed years ago and I was really in a lot of pain. When I was a kid I was kidnapped by a serial pedophile. I was poor. My dad left when I was born, I was beaten, moved to a lot of neighborhoods different neighborhoods beaten I was small. A lot of neighborhoods, different neighborhoods, beaten I was small.
Speaker 3A lot of stuff that children sometimes have to suffer through and sometimes they don't. I would see a lot of kids. My mom moved to a suburban area and these kids were not suffering on the outside at least. I was sewing my pants because I only had one pair of pants, and I got caught by a rich kid and humiliated and shamed. A lot of shame comes with being poor and so forth, and not nutrition, bad nutrition. You're eating terrible food, like chipped beef on toast which you might as well eat the ocean. It's so salty, and so I remember very distinctly the day that it changed.
Speaker 3I was in this fourth grade, mrs Stout's class and I started telling a story. It was actually a painful story about being beaten and I watched these kids that hated me, that resented me, that beat me. I watched each one of them. I can still remember their faces shifted into this, listening to me, paying attention to me, enjoying me this story. And then I kept the story going. I even I said I said she beat me so bad I was a pinata, I had candy coming out of my mouth. Ah, everybody's laughing.
Speaker 3The teacher was kind of trying not to laugh. And the next day the teacher said I'm going to teach him a lesson. She says to the class she goes, he's not going to disrupt my class anymore. And she took my arms, my wrists, and bound them with blue yarn behind my back. She hog, tied me and she put me on a box in this closet, a supply closet. She says you're going to be here the entire day and think about what you did and don't get off that box. And I would. I was defiant, I'd get off and see her thighs coming in with her plaid skirt through the vent and I'd jump back on. You better stay there. And you know what happened. The opposite thing happened. A voice inside of me, an ethereal comedian.
Speaker 3Ever since I started my professional career at 17, haven't stopped highest awards and that's not a brag thing. That's to say to somebody out there that doesn't have hope that laughter really is such. The alchemy of laughter is so beautiful and watch what happens to you. Anybody out there can choose that and not be attached to our story. I'm not attached to that story as a victim. I could have been victimized by that. No opposite Opposite happened. And I thank Mrs Stout, I thank Ben Rauscher for kidnapping me and putting me in a ghetto hotel room at 13 years old. I thank them and I forgive them because I learned how to forgive. I learned how to have empathy. I learned how to have compassion for people in pain themselves. I learned how to switch that around as a superpower. Vulnerability is a superpower. So I'm not here to selfishly hang on to this. That's why I you asked me why it's a long answer to. That's why I formed a coaching program.
Speaker 2Oh, my goodness, I love that because you know what you learn, not from the people high up there on the pedestal. You learn from your fellow human and there's somebody who sets an example in life about how they've overcome the greatest odds. They have something to share. You know, it's kind of like in the old tribes. They had the wise old man and you would go there. You didn't have like a god to go and pray to or whatever. You had the wise man that has had the experience and can share and through that sharing then you get uplifted and you get inspiration and you know you learn things or teach. You know implementing your life.
Speaker 2So I love having people like you on my show, craig, because it is not, and of course I've had, you know, very big spiritual luminaries, but I've also had everybody you know, because you know people who are succeeding in the craft in Hollywood and beyond. This is a land of storytellers. I always say to people Hollywood and the world, it's all about storytelling. So whatever you're doing it through comedy and again, you are telling your story in many ways. You are telling your story in many ways. I love that Book, speaking engagement courses, writing your own scripts, producing movies, having your own podcast.
Speaker 3I'm doing a TED Talk this weekend.
Speaker 2I love that. How do you manage?
Speaker 3it all. That is hard, that's difficult. You met my assistant earlier. I do have a team, and you know people loyal to the team. Sometimes they are and sometimes they're not. Learn those lessons in life too. I'm dealing with what I thought was a partner now is really really pulling some difficult maneuvers. I have to deal with that my ex-wife. She changed the password on her bank account and stole a million dollars.
Speaker 2Horse's ass. Wow, the horse's ass, wife, oh no, no, no.
Speaker 3The different one.
Speaker 2Oh, the different one.
Speaker 3Apparently, I didn't learn my lesson on the horse's ass wife. Okay, anybody tuning in late, I'm the horse's ass. And again, I'm the horse's ass. And even trusting people without vetting, am I horse's ass for that? Sometimes yes and sometimes no. This is a lesson that I have got to keep learning, and sometimes those lessons have to do with just going to have to give up the money. You know, there's a big education. I did go to a school that wasn't that expensive. Well, this one is this one's a lot of money.
Speaker 3Learn another lesson, something that.
Speaker 3I love you can run away with $25,000. I'm just sitting here thinking about it. I'm going no, all the arguing and all the showing him he's wrong. This is a person who gaslights, and we all deal with these people. They obfuscate, yes, and they make it about you, and then they make it about your reactions to. You're reacting to some bad stuff, bad behavior, but no, no. Then it turns into all your length of your emails and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3Okay, I wouldn't have a single email if you just do the right thing and have integrity. But integrity, lost art forms, lost art forms I mean I don't know that they really existed in the past Like you, I'm a young guy, right but I don't know if they did or if it's just. Internet just puts a light on everything that could be it. I don't know know. All I know is my process has been beautiful in being accountable and really looking within and making sure that I find my own faults and not the faults of others. And even if my fault was I didn't vet the process, then that's my fault and I'm gonna pay for it.
Speaker 2I love that, because you beat me to. The next question that I was gonna ask is exactly about that, because sometimes we think that just by being self-aware, being spiritual, spiritual, going on a growth, on a journey, that means just take it. And you shouldn't just take it, you should fight back. When there is injustice and there is unfairness, there is a way to do it, in a civilized way and in an evolved way and in a not so evolved way, but not to fight back. You said learning the lesson, but what are you going to do? You want to keep working with these people? No, you know. So there is something about boundaries.
Speaker 3Obviously we always talk about that right, the boundary, the boundary word, and offer compromise, like I'm after the full amount, but, but I'm realizing today that again I have another story about this if you want, but offer half, you know settlement, you know, offer something where my ego says, yeah, you know, because he believes he's right, right, yeah, it's usually the better way because that's the accountable way as well, because I could blame and say, you know, same with my ex-wife and, and you know, you stole this money and all that kind of stuff. But I really, and her, the case of her especially. I mean I really, really I keep coming from this space of grace, dignity, integrity, um, and be the example. I have a coach, I have a spiritual coach and he talks about look, not everybody's in high vibration, it's very rare. I mean, I can tell you are, which is cool. I'm a psychic, I can tell you're there, I get it. You know I'm going to give you a compliment of whether you like it or not.
Speaker 2Well, thank you, I've done my work and I keep doing it.
Speaker 3Yes, yes, I won't even call it a compliment. I'm going to reflect back what I see with you and I just met you. I'm going to reflect back that you are these people you are conscious, you are aware, you are accountable, you are respectable, you are in respect, you are in your integrity and that's every bit of energy that I get from you. And I'm going to tell you why. No-transcript, you didn't have to agree with me. Your natural, genuine energy flow responses were who you are and I have to reflect that back to you. Who you are is like a person I can hang with. You're a good person. Anyway, that's enough about me.
Speaker 2Thank you so much. Oh, enough about me. Keep going, please. I never get enough confidence. No, I love that. I love that. I love that you, you are, you are truthful, and this is the thing that I love. I hate having people on my show that are just going to say the right buzzwords and they're going to say the right thing and you don't. And that's why I'm reflecting back at your mutual admiration, society. But I'm reflecting back at you because I'm like why should I stop you from talking and saying what you want to say?
Speaker 2You have every right, whether I you know I agree with you, but some people might not, but I don't care.
Speaker 2You're being yourself and you know the fact. You can tell what the impact that a person has by how many people are reacting to that person and and so the fact that you are creating a brand around yourself, from podcasts to book to courses I think it's absolutely commendable because you are just sharing on a wider scale and you are impacting more people. Of course, it's great to make money off of those things we all have to pay bills, you got ex-wives and we've all got things to do but at the same time, the purpose is how can I amplify my message so that it can be shared and it can be heard in multiple ways, because some people may not be ready for your course, but they'll be sure as hell ready for your book, or they'll be ready for your tactile or your comedy or reading your script or making your movie. It doesn't matter how it comes about. You know that's absolutely beautiful about you, craig, not the race car driver.
Speaker 2It's been amazing to have this conversation. We'll have lots more talk offline, for sure, and you know that's coming. I'm going to ask you this my favorite door number one and door number two.
Speaker 2You can open both doors if you want, because this is a free podcast. But how do you define yourself in three words and or your life mantra?
Speaker 3I can answer that.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 3Love, light, levity. I am those things we all are. I just like your word, amplify it and share it and present it to whomever I'm with, whether it's a large crowd or one other person, if I can be those things and live my life in this light, with the great love and divineness and levity, laughter, that I'm winning in my life.
Speaker 2That is so beautiful and what a perfect way to end this show For anybody who's been listening. You know you will have already read the article on the Eden Magazine because my podcast comes a few weeks later. So if you read the article now, you're listening to so much more because you know I can't put everything in there. So, but if you want to hear everything you're tuning on this podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review. Check out the website. Everything will be on my show notes about Craig he's and review. Check out the website. Everything will be on my show notes about Craig he's IMDB, his professional website, any upcoming events, speaking, engagement, books. I'll drop it all on my show notes. Follow this wonderful human and laugh a little more. Maybe he'll be part of that journey because you'll be laughing with him, at him, which is just as good, it's not bad just like you laugh at me and you know, and just let's make the world a better place. So thank you for coming on my show, craig.
Speaker 3It was my pleasure indeed. Thank you for a wonderful, however many minutes we were together.
Speaker 2Oh, I don't keep count anymore. My guests are interested, like who cares? They can talk right now. It's all good. It's all good. Thank you for coming. Ciao to everyone.
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