The Heart Of Show Business With Alexia Melocchi
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The Heart Of Show Business With Alexia Melocchi
Intuition, Acting, and Cats: A Conversation with actress Josie Davis
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Get ready for a lively chat with the multi-talented Josie Davis, as she takes us on an unforgettable journey through her career, from her start as a child actor to her impressive roles in film and television. Josie opens up about her experiences at the Actors Studio, shares memories of our past collaboration on the movie "Stealing Roses" , and even teases the possibility of teaming up again, perhaps in a comedy. Her diverse range of roles, from dastardly villains to heartwarming characters in Christmas movies, showcases her incredible versatility. Josie's candid, alpha female personality adds a touch of humor and authenticity, challenging the norms of Hollywood and making for an engaging conversation filled with laughter and professional insights.
In the second part of our episode, we dive into some hilarious and heartwarming stories about feline intuition and how our furry friends can impact our romantic lives. With anecdotes featuring cats like Marlon and my own Cairo, we reveal how these intuitive creatures have alerted their owners to questionable characters, offering a unique perspective on relationships. These tales not only entertain but also highlight the unexpected ways pets influence our decisions, reminding us of the special bond we share with our animals. Tune in for a delightful blend of personal stories, professional insights, and a celebration of the mystical instincts of our beloved cats.
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Welcome to the heart of show business. I am your host, alexia Melocchi. I believe in great storytelling and that every successful artist has a deep desire to express something from the heart to create a ripple effect in our society. Emotion and entertainment are closely tied together. Emotion and entertainment are closely tied together. My guests and I want to give you insider access to how the film, television and music industry works. We will cover dreams come true, the road, less traveled journey beginnings and a lot of insight and inspiration in between.
Speaker 1I am a successful film and television entrepreneur who came to America as a teenager to pursue my show business dreams. Are you ready for some unfiltered real talk with entertainment visionaries from all over the world? Then let's roll. Sound and action. Hey, everyone from the heart of show business. So this is super exciting for me because I was just on the podcast Success Road by my friend, amazing actress, writer, producer, and we finally made it happen. So you're going to get a double whammy because first you got to go check out the Success World Podcast with me. So I think we were a little drunk, even though we were, and we were drunk on life. No, we were drunk on life, we're drunk on life, we're just being really silly and really fun and that's kind of like a talk show on its own. But today we're going to get a little bit more serious because it's all going to be about Josie. So, josie, you got to look her up on IMDb.
Speaker 1I'm not going to give out her whole credit and her list of movies because it's so freaking extensive. She's been in the business forever, since she was a child, literally. She was in charge, in charge. She's been on so many movies on TV. She's been on films like Sonny. She has worked with on David Mamet's play. She was one of the few actors who was given a lifetime membership at the actor studios yes, the actor studios. So she's not just like this beautiful woman that she just has to look amazing on camera. She is smart, she's intelligent, she's funny as hell. She's a little bit sarcastic, which I love. Her and I get into this texting because I call her the wrong name too, but that's my bad. But today I'm going to call her the right name, josie Davis. Welcome to my show.
Speaker 2You got serious this time. I'm thinking what show is she talking about? Who's she talking to?
Speaker 1I'm not gonna make it serious. No, we could. We could thank you for the introduction. That's so sweet. No, and it's honestly it's it's you and I. I mean, obviously she worked on my movie, for I don't know why she accepted to be in that movie because it was like low budget.
Speaker 2But John, john, heard and John, yeah and the script was great too. The script was pretty good and it was a good character. I love being able to play character. Do character work, you know?
Speaker 1yeah, yeah, you, you certainly made an entrance and that was very memorable and I love having you and you're right we to work together again after 15 years.
Speaker 2And you said a comedy next time.
Speaker 1Yes, you need to be in a comedy because, like I said, you need to do more funny stuff. I mean, by the way, before, she even had her podcast Success Road, which you got to check it out because it's definitely better produced than mine in so many ways. Oh my God, you're so funny. It's on YouTube, you guys, and it's on YouTube and he had produced. Please.
Speaker 2You have a one woman show over here trying to do this whole thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, but it's so funny and you know, what I loved about you is that you've always been raw and authentic, even when you're not in movies, cause I remember watching your little dating tips and oh yeah, josie advice, what was it called?
Speaker 2like it was.
Speaker 2I was taking it from something I called it date how to date an alpha female, or something like that and you were reading of, like fans, fan stuff that they were asking for your advice and then you were commenting, which was hilarious yeah, and then my cousin was trying to get we caught up later in life and so she was like trying to get to know me through it and started commenting I think maybe you're, maybe I think you're this way because of your I noticed, and you say that she quoted me and it was like from my podcast. I'm like you're quoting me from a podcast or from some, you know, from the thing you're talking about. That's not even. That was from something else. I wasn't even. I was reading from something it wasn't even me and she's like I literally stopped doing it.
Speaker 2Everyone loved it, not everyone. Some people loved it and I just I stopped doing it because my cousin was literally quoting it as if it was me and getting to know me that way, and I just was like this is nuts, so I stopped abruptly. I stopped abruptly. But it's a fascinating thing, isn't it? You're an alpha female.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, we're alpha females, we're very. We definitely have an opinion about life and things and sometimes it can scare men out. I mean you're so beautiful, I mean your skin is best. Talking about flawless skin. I mean, how do you, how do you navigate Hollywood? That is, it gets fixed on casting people in certain parts, cause you know you, you you've been cast a lot lately and in the scary, like BITCH, you know, like badass, like villain.
Speaker 1Yeah, the last two movies were villains, yeah, but then you did now, Thank God, A Christmas movie, because I mean you have a softer side to you. I'm the.
Speaker 2I'm a villain, that's one of my. That's my Christmas. Yeah, I'm a villain in that. Oh no, it's gonna be so funny you have no idea. Wait till you see how funny it's gonna be. And the director, writer or producer already emailed my reps and said the buyers were going crazy over it.
Speaker 1That it's called Festival of Trees. Right, that's the one. And when is that airing? When is that? Oh boy, I should have prepared all this.
Speaker 2So sorry, I completely forgot it's November. It's November, okay.
Speaker 1November.
Speaker 2I can tell you that both of the movies I should have, that they're going to be on one of them. That one is going to be on one of them. That one is going to be on up tv. Okay, love that, and I'll tell you, let's see. Okay, he sent it to me because I did good day la plus. Yes, it again. And then what is this? November 24th, 7 pm. Okay, that's pretty early here, isn't it? That's early. Then it will hit all. So that's up TV. They don't hit all the platforms. December 3rd and then January 1st, festival will start rolling out on most of the other platform. Wow, okay, that's interesting. I guess there are a bunch of different platforms.
Speaker 1It'll be on and now that the strike is over, hopefully you will see some dollars coming your way on all of these platforms.
Speaker 2Yeah, I hadn't even thought about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm already like you could ask me. So what's going on in your career? I'd say nothing, because I just do that. Am I working today, today? No, so nothing.
Speaker 1But I love that you're looking also for stuff to produce, and I think that's a good choice, because what scripts are you not getting enough? I mean, if you were to complain about, like why are people not sending me Television?
Speaker 2auditions Interesting For 15 years and my resume is like 95 television, so or, yeah, well, even the movies, a lot of the movies are, are. You know, I have a big television following, so it's a little it's. And I just I was turning down some of the tv movies you, you know, for honestly like nine years, and I just told I actually just pitched something that I think I think Lifetime. I don't know that they're going to, they're not going to probably produce it as an original, but they'll produce it as like an acquisition type thing, but it's my idea. So I think I'm going to be a writer, I think I'm going to write it, create, be the writer creator with the other someone, with this other writer who's a director and producer of those, and so I think I'm going to start working with them again and yeah, so I'll start doing those.
Speaker 2But TV, just regular TV, where I started as a youth, at 12, I don't audition unless a random. I hear about something and then I say, hey, can I audition? But it's very rare, it's weird, but I do have a. There is a show runner that loves my social media and my podcasts and my demo reels and stuff and wants to says I'm being cast. I guess I shouldn't say what it is yet, just because it's not in writing. But next year it'll be a recur, like a recurring yeah, a recurring on a show. But it's just, he's like I'm a huge fan, like how are you not on every show? And I said, well, because I don't audition.
Speaker 1but kind of weird, kind of weird you know what I tend to agree because, again, I think you should be more in film and I think you should be more on tv. And you know, again, should be more on TV. And you know, again, you're a smart cookie. I mean, you're writing your own memoir which, I guess, is getting ready to.
Speaker 2I've taken a pause, but my teacher thinks that I will get it what do you call it? That I'll get paid to write it. What is it called again? I want to call it the wrong thing. You know that I'll get a book deal, basically in advance, paid in advance, based on the chapters that she thought were the best, and so I think I have to write a couple more and I've like put a break, put the brakes on it, and I've got to get back to it and I think you should.
Speaker 1I think you should, josie, because you know what true stories. Everybody loves it. You have quite a life. You have no, no idea.
Speaker 2Alexia. Oh no, why do you think I'm supposed to get a book deal because of it? It's not just like it's such an interesting life. Are you going to name names? Oh, it's not about that, it's just. You don't know my life Like Oprah. Oprah has been my. It's been my dream to be on oprah and talk about it.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, wow, okay, yeah, one side of you is that I do not know which. Now I'm gonna have to like wait for the book for them to come out, or we're just gonna have to go have a solid drink and and dish no, it won't be that way.
Speaker 2You have to read the book, okay, yeah, yeah, sorry, please, sorry, I know I know you can please push me on it. Honestly, it's I do. I need a little bit of like prodding, for sure I'm gonna.
Speaker 1I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna send you a text and call you jody.
Speaker 2Oh my god, jody, guys right no, she doesn't me Jodi anymore, but she kept calling me that. And finally, after 15 years, I'm like please call me Josie, please, for the love of God. I understand a few times, but 15 years of Jodi, I'm just like Alexia, please. She's like oh my God, I think she's serious this time. Yes, okay, now she gets it right Every time.
Speaker 1Yeah, yes, okay, now she gets it right every time. Yeah, I've got PTSD. What traumatic stress disorder from all the times that I've been called out of.
Speaker 2Like calling your name wrong and I'm by me no, I haven't been tough with you for 15 years and I finally was like over text. I need you to call me by my name, like the correct name. You can't get PTSD from that, alexia.
Speaker 1In fact, my book is about PTSD, so nothing like PTSD well, you should have let me on it early, because it's like I'm like the dog, so they need to train when they're like little and like a puppy, like an elephant when it goes to pull its leg.
Speaker 2Pull the stake out of the ground at the circus. Yeah, it's one of the most fascinating things that they try to pull it out and they can't, because it's the stake is too deep and they're little, and then when they, they just give up and then once they're big as a house, they don't even try to put. They could literally just go like this and the stake would come up and they could just roam free, but they don't do it because they stopped doing it when they were little. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. I had to share that but I love.
Speaker 1I love that Then we both love the animal world too, and so so she's a cat lady like me and dog.
Speaker 2All I post about, though, are dogs, like 99%.
Speaker 1Yeah, which are the ones in the most need, as you and I know, especially today are the ones who need the most rescuing. But you know, cats are all things. She's got two beautiful kitties that I got to meet.
Speaker 2I got to meet a great personalities. Yeah, yeah, you met Snow, because of course you met Snow. Yeah, I was too scared.
Feline Intuition and Romantic Relationships
Speaker 1Yeah, and I think what people don't get about cats is that cats are very much energy driven, so it takes some really special humans, I think, to be having cats as their pet, because they absorb our energy, they sense our energy. I'm wondering if they knew if any of your boyfriends were not good for you.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, yeah, there was one. I had a little cat named Marlon. He was named after Marlon Brando. He was a sweetheart. He could open the door with his little paws. It was so cute He'd get in. I used to have the lever, you know, if you turned out to not be a good guy. And he just knew. I mean he just he looked at him like and stared at him and meowed and when, if we closed the door, he would bang on it again and open it Like he wouldn't listen to me and that was not like him to do that. And he knew this guy was bad news. And I say bad news, I didn't date, not dangerous or anything, but just you know, not a good, not for me, and just like not a good guy, I don't think. But the cat knew and he wouldn't leave me alone and he was like trying to let me know. That's amazing.
Speaker 1Well, you remember my my husband was now my ex-husband, cause you briefly met him at the premiere of of I think it was a Stealing Roses and we had a screening. But long story short, after I divorced him, he came to see me when I just had gotten my first black cat, cairo. I kid you not, cairo is never scared of anybody. The moment he walked into the house and he tried to go pet him, he ran. He could not even be near him and I'm going oh, I should have gotten a cat earlier than I would have gotten a divorce.
Speaker 2We would hopefully have been married. I forgot you were married, oh wow for a moment.
Speaker 1You met me when I was dating my husband at the time and you guys, you guys were so cute. You were like then I got married. Big, big mistake. Talk about PTSD.
Speaker 2It happens. It happens to lots of people. Right, I haven't done it yet, but some people see it as a negative that I haven't done it yet. They're like you haven't been married, what's wrong with you? Well, I haven't made the wrong choice either. It could be a good thing.
Speaker 1Maybe I love that answer. I love that answer. Or you could say I'm still interviewing candidates.
Speaker 2Yeah, I rarely go on these interviews, though. I mean who? Where are the good candidates?
Speaker 1You just got them loose before they even got a chance because I usually I did.
Speaker 2I just I just decided not to go out with a guy by talking on the phone. Yeah, there are a few, a few red flags that are basically don't match up and not ideal. One is living in another state, like I don't really you can visit LA, but it's just not ideal. I mean I don't want to date someone that lives like two hours away. Why would I want to date someone that's in another state? You know? So that wasn't too cool. And I don't like to date people with debt. You know I don't want to.
Speaker 2Why am I going to invest in that, that business deal? I'm kidding, but you know what I'm saying, like as if that were like a good. It's not a business, but I'm saying it like if it were a business deal. Why would you want to like invest in that business? Let's call it right. If I'm a business perspective, I wouldn't want to invest in someone that's in the red. Like, if you do things in the red, why would I invest in this business, right? So? But of course it's a romantic thing and I don't even think of it in that way, but I was just using as an example. Is investing?
Speaker 1It is a great example because you know what, unless you're dating a 20 year old who just fresh out of college, and obviously they got the whole. Unless you're dating a 20-year-old who's just fresh out of college, and obviously they got the whole career to be gotten. But if you're going with somebody that's put over 40 or 45, and they don't have, pardon my French, the S-H-I-A-T together, then what? And if they live with their mom? And if they live with their mom, I do live with my mom, but the girls are different. I guess, Oops, Well, you know, I mean now I do live with my mom, but the girls are different. I guess, Oops, Well, you know, I mean now I do. I mean we move. I love having my mom as a roommate. It's just like having another childhood all of a sudden.
Speaker 1But, anyway, it's like a longer story. It's like, oh my gosh, I feel like a little girl. She's scolding me every day. No, I'm just kidding, but now guys have to show you their portfolio. I mean, honestly, that sounds bad portfolio.
Speaker 2I mean you don't mean financial portfolio, you mean like, yeah, like a bio Well, that still sounds weird. But emotional intelligence portfolio, let's put. I mean we all do right, like I. I'm such an open book. I'll tell guys. My worst thing about me is I'm messy. I'm not dirty, I'm messy. I'm looking at my desk right now and I've got notes everywhere and it drives me nuts. That's the worst thing about me. I really think I think that I've got a desk over there. That's like a catch-all. That's the worst. But I will tell you, I'm an open book. I am, anyway, that's. The point is that. That's that's. That's the worst thing. I'm super honest and I don't try to put my. You know, when you date, they say to put your best foot forward and try to make people think that you're more together than you are or that you're better than you are, and all this like people do this pretend fake thing for three months or until they're, you know, exclusive and then it's a big surprise. You know, I don't identify with that at all.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you'll get a lot of that in Hollywood. I mean, again I, when you are a beautiful woman, you want someone to see all the gifts and everything that you are about beyond, obviously, the surface. And, yes, people of course get attracted, I mean even at work. You know, if you look better. I think if we all look better, we get better chances of, you know, getting cast in a movie or getting a movie deal. If you know how to smile, if you know how to behave, then obviously not behave in a bad way, if you know how to behave.
Speaker 1You're like a good girl no, but if you know how to behave, you're like you're a good girl no, but if you know how to behave in a certain lady, it does have a charm and people will be more inspired to work with you on whatever capacity. But at the same time, you also want people to work with your personality and everything and go see past that and I don't even think I'm that attractive.
Speaker 2I love how you talk about me like I'm some Giselle type person. It's just like wow, I love that Alexia holds me in a high regard in that way. But that's so not how. I don't even think like that. I wasn't raised that I was this really attractive girl, so I don't really think I am that attractive. I'm attractive but I don't. I am like that attractive, you know. Like I'm attractive but I don't. And when I say on social media, like I do a post about you know something, about you know being attractive, I get remarks about being stuck up and stuff. I'm like I'm attractive. I didn't say I'm gorgeous. Like I don't even think like that. You know, for me it's all about who I am as a person and improving that all the time. That's who I am. And then I try to look good. Like for your show I washed my hair. I even like try to put some curl in it. I smell good and all this Like that took effort.
Speaker 1Oh, I've seen you work out at the gym with sweats and no makeup. You still look beautiful and thank you.
Speaker 2No, I just meant that I I feel like I have to try, you know, to clean, wash my hair. If I'm gonna, you know, like I don't like all that stuff, it takes effort to be like, looking like whatever this, this, oh it, what I tried to do today for you. Oh, this hair thing. What's happening?
Speaker 1We're all thinking oh my gosh, our hair is. We need, we need the hair, we need the hair fluff. Let's do the hair and move. I don't know.
Speaker 2Do the hair fluff. You're so generous with your compliments always, and I'm I just more than a lot of people, so I just I hear that I'm like what did I do to fool this woman?
Speaker 1Oh listen, you didn't do anything, and I actually think it's more about women seeing other women, as with everything that they're about. Just like you said, I look fresh, like a daisy. You obviously, you know you see me in a different way than sometimes I see myself you know, beautiful. I mean women need to empower one another.
Speaker 2You cannot use all these filters, you know, and I just was talking to someone, another girl, today about how I the feature I hate on my face the most, and we and she said she doesn't like hers either, and we discussed this or whatever. And I said but you know what? I don't go and use filters to try and like, create this facade. I think when I a Snapchat first came out, I it was really attractive and I did that and but then you know what? I dropped that years ago. That was a long time ago. That was a long time ago. I don't do that.
Speaker 2I don't like this movement. I don't want to call it the. I don't. I'm not going to call it what it really is the blah, blah, blah movement about being absolutely perfect, like a dummy or like a doll or whatever. I don't like that message out there for the young girls. I would hate to be a teenager now and a little older and in my twenties and trying to grow up and and and emulate this perfect fake, as if you have to be that to be okay.
Speaker 2I don't like that message. It's bullshit and guys don't even want this walking. You know, whatever. They don't want that. They really don't, and we're harder on ourselves than the girls are and to think that you have to go have every surgery there is to make this huge ass, small ways, big boob, big hair. You know, I mean sure, like I do lashes, but you know the big lash and the big fake lips and the I don't know what else. What else are they doing? The stuff, the filler, shit. Sorry, I don't want to swear yeah, and I get blamed for that. People think I have that I have fillers and that I'm getting all this stuff done.
Speaker 2And I'm telling you I can't tell you how often I hear it and it makes me mad, because I'm really happy when I take this class on Saturdays where I put my hair back, it's always back in a bun or up or whatever and I pride myself on looking good and natural and healthy and I'm not out drinking the night before, I'm not burning myself in the skin because I'm in the sun all the time, but being like drinking my water, eating well, trying to go to bed earlier I haven't been lately a little bit but being mentally healthy and emotionally healthy and that is that's what exudes. There's a reason people call me sunshine. It's not because I'm so perfectly beautiful and I look like sunshine. It's because I exude, it's a spirit, and if you're healthy and all that, you know what I'm saying. So all that matters.
Speaker 2And no one's teaching young girls this. It's all exterior which is continuing people's addictions because they want the quick pill, they want to do everything from the exterior. Just change all this and fake it till you make you know like, just fake all this stuff and no one's wanting to be authentic and it's important to. It's an inside job job and I talk about it being an inside job. And I just recently lost a friend because she did the outside.
Speaker 2She did all the fake nails and the fake this and the hair and the, the facade of what she looked like and she wasn't. She was trying to make herself skinny and not be an overeater and anorexic and taking pills to make herself feel better and everything was exterior and the jewelry and the, but to the extreme, the clothing, the bags, the purchasing, the shopping. I'm sorry I'm ranting but I feel so passionate about the exterior being changed and nothing on the inside and nothing could could make it past that that wall she had up of that and I was trying to and people were trying to get in. I would send her things to listen to and to read and spirituality, and and it didn't break through and she's no longer with us by choice. She was in so much pain and I just want to tell girls out there to and men too, and boys, and to understand it's an inside job. Don't avoid feelings that you're feeling. Deal with it, whether it's therapy, spirituality, all of it. Do something and don't be as sick as your secrets and keep them quiet.
Speaker 1I love that. See, that is why I do my show and that's why I bring wonderful humans like you, because people who love animals in general tend to be very connected to reverence of life. And I think, exactly like you said, it's all about having reverence for life. We're given one life, people. How are we going to make it matter? How are we going to live it? You know we're going to blink by the time and we're going to be 80 or 90. So we're going to be at the end of our days and we're going to say did we make it count? Did we did? Can we look at ourselves and say, oh my God, what a ride, what did?
Speaker 2I do. Who did I help? How did I make a difference?
Speaker 1Yes, yes, and I think there is a reason why artists are so special and such amazing creatures that I love to support as a producer, as a podcaster, as a woman, is that we have a huge responsibility, which is to be advocates of change or advocates of something. When you're talking about your friend and you're honoring her by even speaking about her because you are saying something beautiful about her, you saw past that she did not see that about herself, but you did, and it's so important that you're sharing this message right now, josie, and I love that you are doing the work and you're doing the work every day, and you and I have spoken about that many times. We share books, we share little messages.
Speaker 1You know you've had your own shares of challenges, obviously, as an actress, as an artist, as a human. We've all been there, you know. So you have to be your own best friend first, then everybody else will follow. So what has your spiritual journey been like? If you want to share, like? What are your go-tos for moments like that, when you try to share the videos and the books to your friend? What are your go-to ones? What are the go-to?
Speaker 2books, or what is it in a moment when someone doesn't listen, like which? Which thing you mean?
Speaker 1In a moment for you, if you're having a dark quote unquote moment where do I go?
Speaker 2How do I deal? Yeah, yes, oh yeah, I, I, right away. I mean, first of all, I'm spiritual and not religious and I choose to go to God, a lot like my higher power, for sure. And knowing that you know there's some, I went to acceptance with her and knowing that acceptance wasn't saying it's okay and just moving on and not caring about her anymore, and that's that and giving up entirely, I would, when the moments were right, I would, you know, bring it up and mention solution to her, and I try to live in solution a lot, and but for my own stuff, I just it's an inside job. It's always been that way for me since I started. I mean, I started therapy.
Speaker 2I think I was very young, actually when I started therapy. I'm trying to think I did not have a good first therapist, by the way. I finally said to her I'm getting off topic for one second, but she was always late and she would just sit there and listen to me and then she would look at her clock and go okay, time's up, got to go, and then she'd run and I finally realized I said you know what, if I miss a session or I'm late, you know you charge me for it, yet I don't charge you for when you miss a session or make a mistake or you're late. So I don't think this is quite right. And she's like you're right about that. And I thought why am I, a teenager, telling this lady who's supposed to be my therapist, this? So anyway, I started therapy, and I think I was in 1991. And then in 1998, I found I was really affected by someone who's drinking and drug use really, really upset me to such a degree that I was losing my serenity of my own life and sort of felt like I was losing who. I was losing myself, as some people say. And then I found Al-Anon, which is it's a 12 set program. It's Al-Anon and it's an anonymous program, so technically. But I kind of wanted to say it really quick just so that if anyone resonates with that they can go online and find it themselves. And that saved my life. So I live by those principles.
Speaker 2And then there's some wonderful books. Seven Spiritual Laws of Success is a favorite. And it's not like I do all of these every day. I mean, they're just, they're always. I mix it up. I've been doing it since 98. So there's always a different book or a different something I'm into and taking an inventory of myself and at night, thinking like what did I do today for somebody else? Every day, I try to remember to do something for somebody every day, if I can. Where's my mind? Is my mind on helping people? I check all the people, like when I'm getting ready I think about who's going through something rough that I know right now. I knew someone that was having surgery. They took something out of her breast. I don't know her that well, but that was my job. It's my responsibility as a person.
Speaker 2I believe in trying to become a better person to reach out and see if it went well. There's a woman that I don't know who in business. She couldn't handle my account for something and I think I met her, did something business-wise with her on the phone once, but I don't think I've ever met her, you know, and this was years ago. So I only very quickly was emailing with her, maybe a phone call and she has breast cancer Talk about two breasts, right. And I, you know, I found it, whether it's business or not. I sent her emails to check in, see if she's okay, which I thought gosh. You might even think it's weird. I'm checking in. We don't know each other, but who else is going through something, someone's dealing with depression? Just check in, just send a note, see how they're doing. And you just don't know. And a lot of people hide it too and you want to, kind of I like to just check in and see if it's, if they're all right or what's happening.
Speaker 2And you know, some people don't talk about it and I had a neighbor who ended up don't talk about it. And I had a neighbor who ended up ODing and I always sort of regretted because I think I asked him like hey, how's your recovery going? I could tell he fell off the wagon, you know, and it's not my job to put him back on there. But I kind of thought I don't know, I just didn't want to button his business and I, you know, oding and it was really really awful. But I just what a human, you know he was, this great looking, successful, sweet guy.
Speaker 2It was such, you know, the addiction took over. But anyway, I just part of me just wished that I had said, you know, hey, like looking in the eyes, how's your recovery? You know, I wish you, I hope it's going great, I hope it's going well and mine's going great, and if you need to talk, let me know. I just I kind of I didn't have that. My last conversation was him asking me out actually, and he was too young for me and I said no. I was like, oh, it's kind of a weird last.
Speaker 1No, but you know what. That's what happens sometimes. You know we miss a gift of presence, and I get that too, because there's only so many things that you can observe on every second that goes by. Oh, I observed it.
Speaker 2But I didn't want to, but in more than I already had asked him how it was going and I knew he was off.
Speaker 1Yeah, Wow, like I'm telling you, I see you having your own talk show because you you have so much to cover and you and I talked about this. But I really do believe that and and you should pursue that as well as looking forward to reading your book and I mean I'll add that onto the list. Oh, my God, you put it in the list, my friend, and I mean what I mean. Obviously we all have a dream, both you and I, of you know, having sanctuaries, saving more animals and all that which obviously we need money in order to do that and we all need to work more. But where, where are you? Where do you feel you want to go in the next five years? Do you want to be more acting or you want to be writing?
Speaker 2acting producing. No, no, no acting, no acting acting for sure but I'm producing in order to act.
Speaker 1Okay, so you want to call your own shots? That's what you're doing, the producing, which I think, yeah, I'm sorry I and I mentioned the writing would only be.
Speaker 2That's not my goal, but but I am. I think I am going to end up writing that project with that other person just because and it was a true they like true stories and it's a. It's like a true stalker story. So so I have a lot of those.
Speaker 2Oh I have to write it with. It's going to be fun, really fun, and I know that means I won't be playing the villain, I'll be playing the person that was stalked, which I was, you know. So that'll be really, you know. But it's like it'll be a lifetime movie, which I I I haven't done the ones that are not the greatest I've done really good ones where the writing is good and the stories are great and my performance I know, like I really reveal where I am in life. And there I did one that's one of my favorites, called backstab. Actually I won a Lifetime Movie Achievement Award for all my movies at the same year. That Best Picture, dirty Teacher Don't even remember that one. I remember that one that was nominated yes, it was the same year. And then I won for Backstabbed an award for that and my little awards are over there. That's funny.
Speaker 2But that one I was going through something difficult in life which meant my character was going through it and I revealed all of it and yeah, and it was really like it was pretty raw. That was awesome. It was such a wonderful feeling and it was funny at the same time. They're like, josie, you can't be this funny in it it's we're dying laughing, but this is not a comedy, so we can't use all the takes. But they're like Josie, you can't be this funny and it's we're dying laughing. But this is not a comedy, so we can't use all the takes, but they are too funny because otherwise it won't fit with what other people are doing with. The tone of the movie is but life is funny at moments and I would go dark. But then I had really funny moment. You got to see it. I'm telling you you're going to laugh your butt off Backstabbed. I think you have to see it on YouTube now and I forgot what else. But it's done really well and it's really good.
Speaker 1I'm going to be dropping it on my show notes for everybody to see it. We're just going to put everything in the show notes, including, obviously, your wonderful podcast, because it's great, as well as your social media. I wanted to ask you one last question, and now, of course, it flew over me. Oh my God, it's going to come to me. It's going to come to me, but I think it had to do with where would somebody, if they want to cast you in a film or in a series or in a movie, do they strictly have to go through your agents, or is, and what would make you you know?
Speaker 2what they can just get. I mean, yeah, my manager is really yeah, but they're, they're, oh gosh. Good thing you're asking that question.
Speaker 1Do they still have your DMs, as they call, in Instagram land? Well, those get missed.
Speaker 2But the email everyone has, yeah, anyone in the business has IMDB, so, yeah, they can reach out. They're very approachable. Approachable, I mean, there's nothing, no reason not to. I forgot, someone did just offer a series, but it's an independently financed series and I hate when I read something. There's no humor whatsoever in it because it's not really like, it's not like a comedy. But I'm looking forward to seeing if I can put some of inject, some of that in there. I'm playing some vampire, it's like okay, well, that's great. But I want, like you know, I love light characters. You know, I mean I love to bring that to everything like light.
Speaker 1But I don't know. You start to get all the interesting roles like oh my gosh, from Maxa to vampireire, to Serial Killer, you know everything. I love it.
Speaker 2But you know what I think? There's an email on my Instagram contact there, okay, but it's on IMBP McCaffreyTalent at gmailcom. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1And would there be something that would be getting the better chances of you saying yes to it? Obviously, it's about the money as well, because you got to get paid, but is there something that you are gravitating towards to in this stage of your life that would make you think, oh, this is really interesting. I love to get my hands on it, even if maybe the filmmaker is not super well-known or the producer is super well-known Well, maybe they are. It's better if they are people, because she needs to, you know.
Speaker 2If there's I mean, oh, if there's a Sundance type movie where I get a chance to really show my training and everything, that would be killer. That's a, that's a goal. Making my movie into a script and possibly directing that later in life, that would be great. But yeah, I would love to. I want to do tv like I was, apparently my. I'm not a the type they're looking for in a popularity contest right now. I guess you know there was a period where like oh, blonde, blue eyed was like the thing, you know, like now that's not really the thing. People must see it as vanilla or something, but I'm very spicy.
Speaker 1Latte being ordered yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, but, but yeah, I definitely, and I go dark, which is really exciting too, you know. So it's just so funny how people want to put you like in a she's the glamorous Beverly Hills. Oh, someone did just say, hey, there's a role for you that I think you're perfect for and I sent your stuff to the director and the guys like loves my demos, which is great, but it's to play this, and I'm not against it, but it's to play. He's like you're perfect for it. She's a perfect, beautiful Beverly Hills. Tennis, you know, plays tennis for fun or whatever. Okay, that's cool. Let's just hope you can move after I'm done. I do a great job. You can consider me as some other kind of person who has more depth than that, but you know that funny you certainly do have more depth.
Speaker 1And then that's why I'm saying people, you gotta like watch her podcast, see her insta videos and everything, because she really does. She shows you a lot of herself. She shows you the stuff. She shows you the more serious stuff. She's great at bringing interesting people on and you know, when we cast Josie, honestly for me and I know it's going to sound crazy, but when you were submitted to me for Stealing Roses, I mean, the first thing that I looked at is your background being at the actor's studio and I'm going okay, she got into the actor's studio, oh yeah.
Speaker 1To me that was already like a calling card. And then, knowing that you had worked on David Mamet's, you know Speed the Plow, you know adaptation, and then you had worked on Sonny, you know I think it was James Franco and like whatever, yeah, and Nick Cage directed, that said a lot about your, about your range as an actress. So, yes, of course we wanted a beautiful girl that you know Mark Famiglietti would fall for, like in the movie or whatever, but we also wanted someone to bring that little extra thing which she did at the time, you know, and I'm so grateful that you know you came onto that film.
Speaker 2Basically, you know, thank you, you know you came onto that film. You know I love all different characters and I love I was wearing glasses and and, yeah, I really tried to give as much as I could in every, every emotion you can have. You know, and that was nice, it was nice to, yeah, well, I definitely. Well, we'll have to. We keep saying we're going to talk about what's next, but you know, whatever there is, I don't know.
Speaker 1yeah, something will happen. I know something will happen and you know I do something with all my guests in closing my show and didn't prepare you for it, but that's okay because you know how to handle it. I'm very like actors, studio like actors, whatever that show is. Oh, yes, yes, yes, james Lipton, yes. So I'm always asking people two questions and they can either be both if they want, they can do window number one or number two, or both. And one of them is like how do you define yourself in three words? And just kind of like spit it out, don't even think about it, and then cause it's cool to see the psychology behind how you like instinctively say three words and then if there is like a life mantra, something that has been like the guiding light for you, yeah you know something mom said to you, dad said to you you know your your therapist.
Speaker 1That stuck with you. Okay, I'd love to hear both or one, your choice oh, I can do both, I guess.
Speaker 2Funny, dark, thirsty. I don't know if thirsty, I should probably say because it's a better word Hard. What I mean is thirsty in the way that I am. No, I should change that to passionate. I'm just so driven, really, but I'm thirsty. I feel like I'm thirsty, yes, yes, but extremely, just, nonstop, just passion, passion, passion. So yeah, I guess that would be yeah, funny, dark, passionate.
Speaker 1That should be the title for a movie I love funny, dark, passionate story and Josie Davis.
Speaker 2That's what people would picture. It's funny. The other one is uh, you have the golden rule. I mean, it's really that's kind of funny. It used to be when I was a kid. It was when there's a will, there's a way. But then I started once I discovered sort of my faith in God's will. Then I was, I was less stuck to my will, you know, but I used to feel like if I could just will it to happen and I was very good at that kind of thing, for I'll just force it and make it happen. You know, like when I'm driving, I will get there in two minutes. Somehow I managed to do it. And it's like, how the hell did you just do that? I broke every law there is to get there in five minutes.
Speaker 2But no, but the yeah, the golden rule really, I mean, do unto others is I'm not saying it right and I know that's so funny. If you look up certain quotes they're worded differently in different areas. But it's sorry you guys, I'm not getting it perfect, but basically it's the idea is doing uh, treating others the way you want to be treated, basically, and I just try to always I have anything like this with someone. I always try and turn around and say okay, and let me say it now, hear it from me. But to me, oh, okay, that, oh, I guess I could have sounded a little weird. Yeah, I better probably talk to them about that. Yeah, yeah, I'm actually doing that. Today I had someone that got really pissed off at me Like whoa, where'd that come from? And I obviously need to. How can we talk about that? You know, could that have been?
Speaker 1weird, interesting. Well, I think we all have our triggers right and we're all human and that's. And I love what you said about God's will, because I just found, finally, at the age of 50 plus, that the sentence this, this too, shall pass, is about that, and I've always said, oh my God, there's such a passive way of looking at life.
Speaker 2This too sorry to go so dark guys, but if that, if the suicidal would think in those terms and to know that in those moments, with the the, the darkness they're in would hold, they would hold on to that. To know this too shall pass and there is no situation too difficult to be bettered, you know, just have to actually take action. And you know they say faith without works is dead. Ooh.
Speaker 1I love that, and faith right here, by the way, oh, is that a tattoo? Oh, yes, I love that. That that's a tattoo. I have a tattoo that it's actually one of those that you wash off. I have this thing called conscious ink, or conscious thing, that you can buy tattoos and they wash off like after a week, but they all have like inspirational stuff according to what you're feeling in the moment. So they will say, for example, be present, gratitude, thank you, love, love, like whatever difference, and this is, and that's the week you can take it off. Yeah, yeah, you can take it off and like after a week it washes out. But this one of the weeks has transformed. So that's been with the little butterfly.
Speaker 2So that's a nice reminder. Yeah, it's very scary to go make it permanent. I have one right here. I want to put on two that I've wanted to for years and I just haven't done it yet. This is going to hurt, right? Oh yeah, right here.
Speaker 1I heard that hurts the bone hurt more maybe, but this is going to hurt.
Speaker 2Yeah, just don't put a boyfriend or husband's name on your body, because I seem like it's a complete wrong Like I would ever do that I'm saying that to the only if I had had a boyfriend and a, or a husband and a husband. I'm getting a boyfriend or husband. That would be great. No, I have a spiritual thing I'm going to put here love and God, but they're going to share the. Oh, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1Oh, we can put a cat's names on us, but then that would be too many. Oh, an insane cat lady. But I'm not a cat lady. I'm not, I'm not, no, we're not. We just happen to love cats and take great care of them.
Speaker 2And I love dogs and I can't wait to get one, but I'm waiting, I'm waiting.
Speaker 1You're waiting, you're waiting. Well, this has been such a great conversation.
Speaker 2Thank you so much and and thank you for sitting there while I ranted and raved, but I really, I really was hoping I could help somebody. The passion was just coming out and I hope, I hope.
Speaker 1I love that when that happens. Honestly, I know I know, you know, because people need to hear that. I mean, you know what?
Speaker 2that is, that's God speaking through you when it's that kind of thing, and not that this is a whole spiritual show, I don't know. No, your show's not all spiritual, though right it's partially. It's entertaining everything.
Speaker 1I mean obviously we had entertainment and we have people like michael beckwith on, who obviously is oh my god, I love listening to that man is like drinking water on a arched day yep, yep, thank you, josie, for coming on my podcast and and I'll be posting all the show notes and everything for everybody to follow this beautiful, soul, full lady and thank you.
Speaker 1on YouTube they can watch it and you can watch it on you, you can watch mine, and then there will be a link to click on hers and you know subscribe rate and your view. Oh, thank you, and hers, and and so we'll be like you know, we'll be happy campers, you know so you just type in josie davis podcast if they want to find it.
Speaker 2They don't have to remember it's success road.
Speaker 1Some people forget the name, but exactly exactly, just and instagram and instagram, because our Instagram is pretty damn good, it's so much fun.
Speaker 2It is so fun it is. It is fun. Even I like it.
Speaker 1I don't look at it all the time, but I love it in the making of it's funny, it's you have so many life moments that are great to be shared for people to see that you are a normal human being and and people who are in Hollywood are normal human beings.
Speaker 2Well, some, some of the time, exactly Most of the time- yeah, us, we are people, us, we are Anybody.
Speaker 1Please, if you have any questions, send them to me. I'll read them off to Josie. Maybe she'll feel like answering and will keep us going. And this is the Heart of Show Business Over and out. Thank you for listening to this week's episode of over and out or comments or feedback for us. You can reach me directly at theheartofshowbusinesscom.