The Josh Bolton Show

How to Shift your thoughts more Effectively | Adele spraggon

April 20, 2022
The Josh Bolton Show
How to Shift your thoughts more Effectively | Adele spraggon
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Adele Spraggon is an award-winning author, a thought leader, and an international speaker and trainer. Her book Shift: 4 Steps to Personal Empowerment has won three awards and is sweeping the globe, transforming how people set and achieve their goals. Adele received the award of 2020, Woman of Inspiration Award, and in 2021, Adele also was recognized as the Top Behavioural Expert of the Year.


After decades of feeling stuck in patterns of procrastination, avoidance, and quitting, all of which had her living her life below her fullest potential, Adele set out on a journey of discovery and learning. Her inquiry? The personal and professional methodologies she was following did not work for her. The result is the creation of her proprietary 4 Step Repatterning Technique, which she delivers through a member portal called the Pattern Maker Hub. Today she supports thousands globally to achieve extraordinary levels of happiness, peace
of mind, prosperity, goal achievement, and life-fulfillment.

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www.shift4steps.com Free training and how to get a free copy of Adele's book Shift: 4 Steps to Personal Empowerment can also be acquired here.



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adele Spraggon:

Let me just shut everything down

Josh Bolton:

shutting down and stuff. So before we while you're doing that, Adele spriggan, right?

adele Spraggon:

Yes, it is Ramsar dragon.

Josh Bolton:

That's a wonderful name. So, Adele, from what she was telling me earlier, we're going to talk about the different neural links like NLP, would you say? I don't

adele Spraggon:

know, it's my own proprietary technique. So it's not NLP. It's yeah, I have a different approach that we can just go into what that is. But it's four steps. And it's highly effective. So

Josh Bolton:

then tell us a little about yourself Adel, and what you do. Hi.

adele Spraggon:

All right. So I'm behavioral change expert, I've been in the field of behavioral change for over 35 years, 3035 years. Traditionally, before I was following all the traditional approaches, so before I created this proprietary technique, I was very much following all the methodologies for behavior change, such as positive thinking and affirmations and visualizations and proper goal setting on and on and on and on my way. The problem was, is that I wasn't being very effective, frankly, I had a pattern for quitting. And I kept putting everything over and over again. And I also had very, very high anxiety and I kept having panic attacks. And no amount of what I was following was supporting me in changing any of that. And so, you know, I shouldn't say entirely would help a little bit, but not to the extent that I was looking for. So I took myself to university and I decided, okay, maybe it's the way our brain is working, that is different from how we're being taught how it's working. And sure enough, I discovered that we are all using what I call the wrong operating instructions. And as I learned how to repattern my own brain, and I saw how effective we can be as human beings, once we know how to work with our brain the way it's designed. I thought, Okay, this has to be taught. So that's what I've been teaching for the last for 10 years, I teach a four step re patterning technique that changes the underlying brain patterns that give rise to a person's actions, behaviors, beliefs. And John, the results are remarkable. Like, I went from before, when I worked with people, we would get about a 25% success right now we get on average, an 87% success rate, like it's just night and day. So when we know how to use the brain effectively, it's remarkable what we can accomplish.

Josh Bolton:

Oh, 100% I agree the like, for me, I've been reading a lot of books, because the march 2020 crash, like piqued my interest and my okay, why is everyone crying emotions and happy? So we started this whole thing. And I realized to do trading, it's business businesses mindset. And I found the book Thinking Fast and Slow. I don't say is that a very similar approach to what you teach?

adele Spraggon:

I haven't really read that book. And I have heard about it, like the subconscious makes those quick decisions, right. And then the conscious mind is the decision maker. Yeah, I mean, you know, one of the things, John, this, the fine latest findings coming out in neuroscience are frankly, super surprising, very, very surprising. And people need to know how the brain is working so that they can use it effectively. And definitely, decision making is a massive part of what I teach, because we are taught that we can make decisions freely and openly and we have choice. And the interesting thing about our brain is is that because it creates patterns, because it creates new neural pathways that make decisions on our behalf. We don't have that level of freewill that we think we have. Right. And if we're gonna make a brand new decision, we have to start by removing the old pattern that was giving rise to the old decision first. That's the key to how to work the brain. We need a method of removal not addition. Interesting.

Josh Bolton:

So in I was like I told her earlier before I hit the record button, I listen to some of her episodes with other podcasters what are some of the tricks let's say someone really, really wants to start up like some big project. What like you're quitting one, how would you with your four steps approach that to help them?

adele Spraggon:

Yeah, so the difference between what I teach them on a traditional approach to teachers is primarily this. Let's say that you will have that big project that you want to start, right. Okay. So that is a goal that you're you're setting in your mind, that's something that you want to achieve. The next step is not to ask yourself, How do I get there? The next step is to ask yourself, Why am I not there today? Okay, now I'm gonna pause and I'm gonna let every person who is listening. Just think about that for yourself. Just set a goal large, small doesn't matter. Now the next This question is not how do I get there? The next question is, why am I not there right now? What's stopping me? Right, you'll notice that your mind starts coming up with a whole bunch of excuses. So why don't have the money, that might be one thing, right? Or I don't have the time, or I'm so busy doing this, I just don't want to dedicate the energy over there, or I'm not focused, or I'm not good enough, or I'm incapable, right? And you'll notice all of these stores thought started to come up great. However, I'd like you to think about your brain as think of it as an iceberg. At the top of the water are all of your actions, all of your behaviors, all of your beliefs below the waterline is your brain patterns. Under everything that you're thinking right now, that is saying, I don't know how to do that, or I'm incapable of doing that there runs a brain pattern. And it is that pattern that is giving rise to that belief, or that behavior or that action. Okay, everybody following so far. So what we need to do is, instead of trying to fix that problem, is to go under the water and remove the pattern that is giving rise to that problem. As soon as that pattern is gone, your brain will do what your brain does brilliantly. And that is create a brand new pattern. And that brand new pattern is going to lead you in the direction of your goal. Okay, and we can get into why in a moment. But I'm going to just check in with Josh and make sure that this is understandable. Does that make sense?

Josh Bolton:

Yes. Very understood. Okay. Awesome. Okay.

adele Spraggon:

So why is it that once you remove an old pattern that is taking an unworkable action, behavior belief that your brain will take you in the direction of that goal? Well, there's a few reasons why that is going to happen. The first thing you need to know is how your brain creative patterns to begin with. So human being unlike other animals, we are born a blank slate, a lot of animals are born instinctively, knowing what to do, we do not, we have to learn everything. So we enter into this world. And very quickly, our brain has to make connections about what it's doing and whether that was effective or not. And as soon as it takes an action, it stores that action away for future use. And it says, Okay, that's great. This action took me through from this situation to another situation. So it must be a good action. So I'm going to store it away so that next time I encounter a similar situation, I will know what to do. But he got that right. So your brains just rapidly piecing together these patterns and forming them in the brain. Now, when you were five years old, Josh, highly likely you weren't good enough for what you're trying to do today. Right? highly likely that the back then probably not that effective. But the brain doesn't care, it just continues to try and use that action over and over again. And that's how we get stuck. If we're going to take a brand new action, we need to remove that one, like I was saying. So what happens when we remove it is our brain has forced them to create a new pattern. But instead of being created out of our five year old self, it's now created out of our however old you are at this point. I mean, I'm 58 so a 58 year old self 29. Okay, great. Lots more grist for the mill lots more information in there that you now know, knots, more knowledge, right? Lots, lots more experience that your brain can then call on to create that new pattern. And so of course, it is going to be more effective at getting you to that goal. It has to be yes.

Josh Bolton:

So I'm just curious than for the like I've through different methods have fixed it. But let's put it bluntly, most of my childhood I was overweight, I had really, really crooked teeth and I was made fun of I was called the monster and I believed it until about three years ago. And then that's when I realized on my own I was just I was on some big heavy pharmaceutical drugs back then. ADHD back in the 90s didn't know what that was back then. They're like he's crazy. medicate him. But essentially, what I've done is just more very similar to your method is ask the question why do I believe this and then that that underlying kind of like a whisper or like a wind in the breeze, whatever that voice is, listen to that. And it was just saying you're not you just believe this. You've always heard it your whole life kind of thing. So it was just it was interesting when you meant there's no I'm like, yeah, that's how I fixed it because very politically correct Indian doctor when said a bad word at all. When I came in, he pretty much liked me and said, Josh, how long have you been on the shit? And that's really that's when I cleared it just that that whisper in the wind pretty much said get off and now.

adele Spraggon:

Yeah, do you mean get off the nine pattern get off the medications. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And Do you know why get off the mind pattern is just to say, right, like, how long have you been on this shit? That's great. Yeah, definitely. But here's the thing, Josh, like, you know, when you were little, and thank you for sharing that story, because it's very helpful for your listener, I'm sure. Those, those mockeries, or comments that you heard growing up, they would have formed brain patterns in you, right? And that's why you ended up believing them because you had a pattern that believed it, not because it was true, as you now know, it's because your brain formed a pattern that held that belief. So you know, I always like to say, what if we just had a magic wand, and we could just effortlessly just remove those patterns, if you could just wave away? That idea that you were called a monster, right? And you were overweight? Well, if you could just wave that away, you can see that then you would have an opportunity to take a brand new action, because now you're you're dealing with a blank slate, you've done an empty tap. Whereas before you're trying to fix something that is perceived broken. Makes sense, right? So that's why what you did work so effectively, because you went, Oh, hang on a minute. It's not me. It's it was the situation. It's not me, it was just something that I ended up believing. Brilliant. Well done. Thank you.

Josh Bolton:

Yeah, it was just one of those. The Thinking Fast and Slow was definitely one to help me realize like the how, I won't say, I didn't listen to all your steps. But I'm assuming the first one is that, within Thinking Fast and Slow, he says, you've probably seen in your studies where emotions override logic, the logic can't override emotions. But he said, but there's a caveat, a hold to this, if you breathe 10 times you can override the emotions to kind of thing. Is that very similar to what you teach you?

adele Spraggon:

Well, no, let's actually just dive in. It's similar in that we're going to use the body let me dive into how I would do it. Okay, which is a little different than how Daniel does. So what is a pattern? Let's just start there. Right? A pattern is an intertwined, physical sensation, emotion and thought, we very much in our culture, prioritize mind over body. And we say mind, wisdom is more important than body wisdom. Not true. As Josh's so brilliantly, saying, Your emotions are actually the driving in the driver's seat, right? The mind is just following along after the emotion and making it appear logical. You take the action that you're taking, but it's not logical at all. So we have mind wisdom, and we have body wisdom, and we need both of those. But what is the difference between them? So let's go back to my definition, okay. Well, since I sensation, emotion, thought, that is what drives an action, or behavior, a belief, not just mind. Okay, really important for everybody to know. So the first step is to identify that pattern. The first step is not to ask yourself, What am I thinking and believing? It's to ask yourself, what is driving that belief? That action? Right, and what's driving it is a physical sensation and emotion, a thought, and you can do it right now. Just imagine being called a monster.

Josh Bolton:

doesn't feel good? No, right?

adele Spraggon:

Like, ooh, it feels Ah, I don't know, am angry, shamed. I mean, it could go either way, right? Whatever way you're going, that's fine. That's how your pattern is reacting. Okay? The next step is to own it as a pattern. So I said, I teach a four step technique. So let's go into step two and explain what I'm about to say. Our brain is locked inside a dark and silent room called a skull. There is no sight in here, there is no sound in here, there is no touch, there is no taste, there is no smell. There's nothing in here, other than electrical impulses that fly down these neural pathways. That's important to know. Because what the brain is, is it's an interpreter of the sensory data that's coming in. So the sensory data is flowing in through the senses, we see something, we hear something, in this case, the word monster. And our brain now has to interpret that information based on what it's already learned from its past. Yeah. Cool. Okay. With that means that if you think, Josh, that you're seeing me, you're actually not what you're seeing is a pattern in your brain for me. Oh, interesting. Okay. Once we know that this brain is in a dark, silent room, we have to start to really question everything that we believe we are seeing as being outside of us. And we have to start to realize, oh, hang on a minute. That is my pattern that has that perspective of what's going on outside. Great that God gives us back our power that is ownership. Right. Don't bless you. Thank you. So step two is to own it as a pattern, and not as it's the situation or it's happening out there, or even as it's me, like, we have patterns for ourself or our own identity. So to own it as a pattern is to say, I created that That's step two. And step three, we need to deconstruct it, put it back into just a physical sensation, just an emotion, just a thought it is the intertwining between the three that leads to the action. Okay. Okay. So once we tease apart that pattern, and in my book, there's a simple way to do it, it's tricky to explain, but once you get it, it's like, oh, yeah, that was easy. That was effortless. So there's an easy way to do it. But once you do it now, that is when your brain is going to do something brilliant. You see, our brain is a pattern maker. And it does not allow you to be without an action. So it's going to snap into a different channel. And the brain has what is called plasticity. It is doing this all the time. We just want to work it systematically, rather than just allow it to happen spontaneously, which sometimes happens, our brain will rewire itself spontaneously, but we want to be in control of that. So that is step three is to deconstruct then step four, we get to create a new pattern based on the goal that we set. Makes sense?

Josh Bolton:

Yes. At least to me,

adele Spraggon:

yes. Well, it sounds, you know, it sounds more complicated than it is, it's a two minute technique. It's done in the privacy of your own head. And once somebody learns it, they can do it very effectively. And very quickly, right? It does take a little bit of time to learn, it takes 60 weeks to learn it, because we're building a pattern for repatterning. That makes sense, right? But then once you have that pattern, then it's like a tool in your pocket, you're just going to apply it wherever you go, whenever you need.

Josh Bolton:

So without giving the secret sauce way, what are some more details of steps two through four?

adele Spraggon:

Yeah, so so like I said, step two is we're going to own it, we're going to own it as a pattern, and not as it's happening out there. Okay. And that really, that really, really does bring the power back to ourselves. I mean, everybody can just imagine this for a moment. Just think about your brain. Just think about your brain is always trying to interpret its information. Okay, so we look at something now neuroscience has determined that as much information that comes in through the senses, is actually also have occurring inside the brain to translate that information. Okay, so yes, we see partial pictures of what is around us based on what we already know, based on what our patterning already knew. So step two, I created that that's really important. Step three, we need to well, because should we, how much time do we have Josh,

Josh Bolton:

I have an hour slotted if you stuck, so

adele Spraggon:

let's let's dive into the difference between your brain hemispheres Shall we will make more sense out of the four snaps. So what do you think is happening in the brain hemispheres? Most people know that there is a left brain and a right, right, right body and all that. And it's divided by the center to be the band of tissue. It's called the corpus callosum. That doesn't really matter. But it's divided and information needs to flow between these two brains of ours. Okay. All right. In the left hemisphere, we are used to thinking of the left hemisphere as being mathematical, logical, linear, right? And the right hemisphere is imagination, creativity. The artist is in the right hemisphere. Everybody heard that? Right. Okay. debunk it. Not true. All right, just cross that off. That is not the difference in the hemispheres, as neuroscience is now determined so. So in McGilchrist Jill Bolte Taylor, you may have heard of these neuroscientists, they are the ones who were doing deep research into the brain hemispheres and the difference and they're coming up with is very exciting. Right here, Josh, sitting here listening to me, there are two things that your brain needs to do at exactly the same time. And these two things are mutually incompatible. The first thing your brain needs to do is focus in on what I'm saying. You need to use information from your past and you need to extract and not to be distracted by everything that's going on in the room. Okay, that is one thing that your brain needs to do. At the same time, though, there's possibility that there might be danger somewhere in the space. Yes. So equally at exactly the same time. If there's a fire in your kitchen, you better know about it, and you better move. So at the same time, you have to be have this broad open sustained In the awareness of everything in your environment, yeah, just in case just in case, there's something going wrong that you better get out of there. Right? These two things you can't do at the same time. Just think about how can you focus in and reduce distraction, and remain open and be aware of every distraction. It's absolutely impossible

Josh Bolton:

to choose one or the other.

adele Spraggon:

You would think, by nature has a brilliant way of solving this problem. She just severed your brain into it. Okay? All right, left brain you focus in. You be narrowly focused, you listen to Adele, you understand her words, don't get distracted. While right brain, you stay open to everything in the environment, everything around you. And if you are needing to take a new action, rather than listening to me, it is your right brain that is going to inform your left brain Hey, act, get out. There's a fire in the kitchen. Okay, great. Okay, so what is happening in today's mixed up topsy turvy world? Why is there so much anxiety in the world today? Why is this so many problems in today's world? Well, it is because we have over educated the left hemisphere. we've positioned the left hemisphere as being the dominant hemisphere. And we have possession, the right hemisphere as being not that important. Okay. Okay, the right hemisphere is their access to now to the present moment. The left hemisphere is only accessing its past based knowledge. So we prioritize knowing, right, we prioritized intellect, we prioritize all of the things that the left hemisphere does so so well utilize the environment utilize us, the left hemisphere as categories, it prioritizes, what's good, what's bad, left hemisphere is excellent at all of that. But it's not very good at being present, and now situated. In fact, it sucks at it. And so that's why there's so much anxiety and so much frustration and misunderstanding in today's world conflict. It's because we don't have access to the present moment anymore. We need to rebuild that communication back to our right hemisphere.

Josh Bolton:

So just a side tangent, we'll get back to what you were saying. Do you think it's mostly because of cell phones and social media? Is

adele Spraggon:

it's been going on for 1000s of years? So it's definitely are not helping? Yes. But it's it really has been we've been and McGilchrist in his book, The Master in his emissary does an excellent account through history. When it started, at one point in history, the two hemispheres were equally balanced. And at that point in history, there was peace, there was contentment, there was happiness, all of that was occurring. And then the left hemisphere just threw it over education just started to become more and more and more more dominant. And today, it is extremely dominant, which is why we're facing so many problems. Okay.

Josh Bolton:

So just use the steps. Yeah, go ahead. Just say, what was that moment in time that you said there was peace, and then we can go back to the so the

adele Spraggon:

Renaissance was a time where the about where the two hemispheres were balanced? was one time in history. And you can see it, there was a lot of creative expression back then people were very much you know, the renaissance person you hear renaissance man is typically the way saying, multiple interests, right, crossing over broad division of different interests, different skills, different talents. Yeah. So if you read the history of the Renaissance, it's like, yeah, you can see it, you can see why they were much more balanced than we are today. And what were some other times in history? You know, what I forgotten off the top of my head. Okay, Roman center. Yeah. But anyway, what we see is that the imbalance is what's causing all the conflict. And that's exciting, because that puts the, the solution in our own head, if we have to solve all of the problems out there, social, political, economical, oh my gosh, like we're in trouble, right? But if all we have to do is rebuild the connection to our right hemisphere, okay, that's doable. We can do that. Especially if we have a tool in our pocket to do that. Yeah, right. Okay. So back to the four steps. Why did I bring up these two hemispheres? Well, the first two steps and one is th are very left hemisphere. processes, we divide, we separate, we categorize what am I feeling? Why am I feeling it? What's my one thought, right? So we're reducing it down, we're focusing in what's going on internally, and we're creating something manageable, something we can hold on to in that moment. But when we get to step three, where we deconstruct that pattern, we really need to access the right hemisphere, because we want to come to what's actually going on in this moment, as we create this brand new pattern. Okay, so that process is why I say it's a little bit tricky. It involves a state of what is called surrendered awareness, it's surrendered observation of what is going on internally in the pattern. So just to add a little bit of meat to the bone on what you're going to do in step three, is you are going to surrender and observe what is going on internally. And we need the body, not the mind, because the body is our access to now. Okay. And then on the fourth step, that's the trust. And that's where we're going to create those brand new patterns based on that goal that we set. So I probably haven't given you enough to actually do it, guys. But yes, a copy of my book for free. And it's all in there. Get

Josh Bolton:

her book. Like I said, I don't want to get the secret sauce away. But I just, I wanted for me to, it'll be like, how did I do it? And it's like, it's very similar to what she recommended. So

adele Spraggon:

excellent. Yes, I am so happy to hear that all of these different ways of working our brain are coming into into being today, right? Because, yeah, there's the it's so exciting to see how now I think what's happening, Josh, is that the left brain has reached a point where it can no longer handle today's problems. It is now at the point where it is just it's tapped. Everything it is and everything that it's trying to do now is no longer working. And so that's why I think that techniques such as mine, and such as the one you use are coming into existence, because we have to now create something new as we go forward. And so we're in a very, very exciting time, I like to say when a revolution of mind,

Josh Bolton:

I do do I was actually I joke with a lot of guests who and we talked about this as I consider more of a renaissance time now to

adele Spraggon:

Yeah, yeah, I think we're coming into the next Renaissance time, a time where all of what we did before is going to fall away. And something brand new is going to present itself and and the brain. And what we now know about the brain is going to be front and center and foremost, and everything we do from now on, people are going to start knowing about patterns and taking ownership of their patterns.

Josh Bolton:

Oh, 100%. Like for me. Now, I'm just curious for you, because you've studied the mind and how it works. ADHD, is it one of it's not fully like curable, but it is manageable, right?

adele Spraggon:

Well, you know, I like to say that everything is a pattern. So yeah, just his brain is shaped differently. And, you know, you know, Josh is so interesting when we think about the brain. When we think about our bodies and different people's bodies, we all know that they're different. But when we think about the brain, we always tend to have this idea that everybody's brain is exactly the same. Well, not true, your brain is shaped a little differently than my brain. It doesn't make it wrong or incorrect. It's just a different, a different form, right? Just like your body is different than my body of residence. So it's all patterns, I like to say, and it's patterns all the way down. And if ADHD if your relationship to ADHD, let me let me express this very clearly. So your brain works. It has a different level of focus, it works a little differently. It has a tremendous gifts in there, as you likely now know. Oh, yes. And lots of skills that I don't have, because I don't have ADHD. So lots of benefits to having it right. But if your relationship to ADHD is that is bad and wrong, or there's something wrong with me, because I have it that definitely needs to be repattern so that you can embrace your gifts. And so that your brains way of operating in the world is seeing us for the benefit that it is rather than as a detriment. Does that make sense? So for everybody who has ADHD, that's how I would suggest you work with it. What's my relationship to that?

Josh Bolton:

Yeah, and like for me, like I realized at a young age, I'm a kinesthetic learner. That's where I keep leaning over to the keep dropping my poker chip. So for me to focus, I need to just use fidget with something. And I actually remember better if I physically do something. Yeah,

adele Spraggon:

yeah. And luckily in today's world All these differences and how our brains operate are, are no longer being seen as flaws because they were when I was growing up, right? Like if somebody had a DHD maybe even when you were growing,

Josh Bolton:

I was in the 90s. And that was, I noticed around 2003, at least here in California, they were more open to the idea. But yeah, 90s They were like, he's weird medicate them.

adele Spraggon:

Yes, yes, exactly. And now they actually put fidget things on desks in the office. Right? They say go ahead. Like if you need to fidget fidget.

Josh Bolton:

Just don't have to pan out because everyone off. Glee. Yeah, and just for me, when, like you said, the EDC and notice it's a gift not a because that was my air quote, monster complex problem. Is that was different. I never thought the same people like how did you know? And I'm like, I'll know intuition kind of thing. But now you come to realize just how my brain fires. Like you mentioned in a previous show, it's that one second? Well, one millisecond ahead of me. So I guess my how I can process I can have the time most people will take to perceive it. So now instead, I just go with it. Like I just texted a friend this morning. I got like that weird like gut feeling? Intuition. I just sent her a text you say? How do you know I was literally just waking up. I'm like I you know, I taught contact the spirit world and all that. They told me this.

adele Spraggon:

But you know, I we joke about that. But it's true. Like when? So Josh, why you just said was so. So rich. And probably people just missed the richness of what happens in your brain. So I'm going to break it down, right? We used to think that thought came first before decision. Right? So we used to think that you think first act Second, it was think feel act, right? And that's how we don't we we operate it. One neuroscience is now determined based on modern brain scanners. So I should say that about 2025 years ago, they created modern brain scanners that really could peek inside the human brain in a non invasive way. Okay, before that you had to cut the brain open, or you had to guess what was going on in wasn't, wasn't very easy to do. So now you can see in there. So what they have now determined is that action, the decision that we're about to make is being made a fraction of a second before our conscious mind knows we are going to take make that decision. So I'm just gonna let that sink in for a moment. We think with the decision maker, we think we're choosing our actions. But the unconscious regions of our brain are lining up first, before we become aware that we want a cookie. Okay, so I like to say you want to know why your hands in the cookie jar? It's because your pattern put your hand in the cookie jar? Not you're not you're not by choice, okay, that changes everything, doesn't it? So, what Josh's brain does, is it he operates quickly within those decisions that his brain is making on his behalf. And that's fantastic when you can take those actions that work for you. And you don't need to constantly second guess yourself. Okay? So as long as something works, let's use that capacity that the brain does, which is what you've learned how to do. But a lot of people fall into an over analysis or procrastination, because they're constantly second guessing those actions that the brain is already taking, and it's very painful, right? It creates a lot of anxiety. It's a lot of analysis paralysis,

Josh Bolton:

I had a huge analysis paralysis from

adele Spraggon:

Yes, because if you've got a call, always second guess yourself, you're stuck. You're just you can't move forward. And the mind is trying to do what it is ill designed to do, which is make those decisions on our behalf. It's not its role, its role is to inform us of the decision that we've already made. That's the mind stop. So its role is just to tell you what it is you are doing, rather than tell you what you should be doing. Right, I need to say that again, or does that make sense? Say it again. All right. The minds job is to inform us what we are doing, and not to tell us what we should be doing. And if what we are doing does not work for us, then you need a tool to just remove that action by removing the underlying pattern is tremendous peace in that. There is there really is tremendous peace. You don't need to worry about anything. Is what I'm doing working for me? No Okay, I've got a tool in my pocket, I can change it. But don't think that your mind is choosing it isn't your minds along for the ride and it rides in on the back of your patterns? I like to say

Josh Bolton:

it does. Yeah. It is just it's interesting how you said the how my brain makes patterns. And I pick up on quickly. I was just thinking, as you're saying that, so it really bugs my co workers. And it's funny, I walk down, I'll say, I'll be exactly I'll be back by 30 seconds before the door opens. And like, how I'm like, I don't know, I can just see from the distance, This normally takes me 30 seconds. You can have they and then like, it's not one of those, I could just draw your picture and explain it. But then, because I've been, I figured out that intuition and pattern recognition ability, I've been putting it towards trading. So actually, some of my co workers know Hey, so we know is not trading advice. But what do you see the market going? And I just look at my little indicators. And I'm like, it's gonna go up today. And they're like, and they and then they click it and they buy it. And they text me. When am I supposed to get on? Like, I don't know that one man.

adele Spraggon:

But you know what, but that access to our right hemisphere, and probably Josh, just simply because we're so cut off from it in our culture, but you have it, you have it very clearly. It does feel magical. does feel like it's coming from another realm or from some spiritual divine entity, right? That is, yeah, definitely it does. And it's just because the right hemisphere is silent. And when we access it, it's where the wisdom lies. It is definitely where we know stuff that we don't know that we know. It's because it's it's something that we're gaining access to now, rather than something that we learned in the past, if that makes sense. The left hemisphere is about the past. Right?

Josh Bolton:

Right. Just past right. Okay, President, I'm just curious for you. I'm just like an armchair expert. Is there a way that like, my brain can actually process pictures? Like if I, if you see an apple, I more see like a basic silhouette of the Apple logo. I don't see the red apple with the shine and a green leaf is that normal?

adele Spraggon:

Every brain is different. And there is no normal. So that's really important. It's like everybody's different. And there's no normal, right? The left brain likes to have an idea of perfection. Here's how the left brain operates. It likes this idea of perfection. And everybody needs to be compared to that. That's how their left brain always works. Okay, do I see an apple? Like, have you said to me a Dell picture an apple? No, I don't have that visual ability to picture in my mind an apple. I can describe it brilliantly. Because I think more in words than in visual. And but in your case, you're visualizing that you're visualizing something that's a logo and not the actual apple. Hey, here's, here's my thing. Does it work? Yes, we both know what we're talking about. So great, we're gonna keep those patterns. We don't need to change them. If it didn't know. And you were picturing a banana, then I would say, you know why Josh, you might want to repattern that, because we're not talking about the same thing.

Josh Bolton:

Banana and Apple are clearly different. Yeah, there's just it's one of those as I've talked to people, I'm just one of those weird things like, because like you you're, I'm better at explaining it, even though I can't see it. Because it makes more sense to explain in detail what I see. And that's where a lot of people are like, man, Josh, like, you must have a gorgeous picture might not It looks like a like a little five year old she used stick figure for and that's about it. It's just 2d pictures. All I see. And I'm like, really? perceive things.

adele Spraggon:

Yes, yeah. So your your words are very descriptive that you're allowing them to see it clearly in their mind, which is brilliant.

Josh Bolton:

And it's just one of those. One of my co workers, he's very young. And so I was from again, kinesthetic. I have to do something. So talking helps me I'm doing something but I'm working. So he at first thought I was like crazy or having a mental breakdown. I'm like, Nope, sorry. I was trying to work out a, like something in my head. I needed to talk to an expert, which is myself. And he's like, all right. But I was just telling him he's like, What were you talking about? Then I just tell me and so I told him this. See, like basic scene. I was sitting in my head for a long time and described it and it's one of those he was like dumbfounded and actually like sitting on the floor like Wow, dude, I felt like I was actually there. Mic. Again, I was just trying to explain myself sort of go away.

adele Spraggon:

Yes, yeah. And I love that speaking to the expert in your own head, because everybody has an expert in their own head. It's called your right hemisphere. And you can speak to it, it'll inform you of some very remarkable things that you may not have known that, you know. So,

Josh Bolton:

yeah. So I'm just curious. You said this way early on the our brain is in our school, what we see is not real, is this. The I'm not going with like the whole Metaverse for matrix, but is it like what we perceive like, that's why we can't bite our fingers off, because we know a certain electrons when to stop or is it? More of like the deeper this this literally may just be a facade in front of us?

adele Spraggon:

Well, you know, I mean, I love the matrix. It's a great movie, great movie. What can we know about the outside world? Well, I'm not saying that the outside world doesn't exist. All right, that would be what is what philosophers would call solipsism. Some of you may know that term, it means that everything is occurring inside everybody's own head. And we are like in The Matrix. Instead, it's more like, the interpretation that our brain makes is a partial. It's partial, based on what it already knows. So and what I know is different from what you know. So you and I, Josh, we are let's say that we're both standing in the exact same room. Are we standing in the same room? Well, we could, on one level, say yes, that on another level? No, because what I'm gonna notice, what my brain is going to pay attention to is different from what your brain is going to notice and pay attention to. Okay? Why what what is that difference? What is the brain prioritizing? Well, whatever is familiar to you. So if something is learned from your past, your brain is going to gravitate first and foremost, towards that, and not towards the other stuff that is not that familiar, my brain is gonna gravitate towards what's familiar to it and away from other stuff. So all of us have a partial perspective of the room that we're in. Right? Is that making sense? Okay. Okay. So, you know, the idea with re patterning is to remove that familiarity. So we are standing in a blank slate room and having our brain having to recreate that room again, for us. Okay, and bring us a larger perspective.

Josh Bolton:

I'm just curious, could that be a literal White Room?

adele Spraggon:

Like, a literal room? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, when people repattern, my experience of repatterning is I will open my eyes after I've applied the two minute technique in my head, and everything will look brand new to me for a fraction of a second, it just shows up. Wow. Like, this is beautiful. This is so different. This is so that I didn't know it was even here. Okay. So it's subtle, it's slight. But yes, when we are creating brand new patterns, there's a lightness to life. And there is a delight to life that is often overlooked inside a left brain pattern that is constantly overriding the past situation with the present. Can I use an example of that? Because that's so and there's a brilliant example of this by Marcia Martin. Asha Martin is She's a leadership coach. She's trained some of the top leaders like Tony Robbins, and things like that. And she has one example in one of her books. And she says, imagine that you're three years old, and you're skipping down the street, and there's big black dog jumps in front of you, scares you, you run back to your parents or walk in behind you. You think everything is forgotten. Okay? Meanwhile, your brain has stored a pattern for big black scary dog, and it's in your brain. And then imagine that this I'm going to use me So imagine you're a girl right? And you're have this crush on this boy in your class. You're 16 years old. You're just like, you know, you've just been all year hoping, hoping hoping that I'll ask you out on a date. And finally he does. And you meet him at the movie theater. And you're sitting together and you're sharing a box of popcorn and you know your hearts skipping a beat each time your your hand brushes up against his and then it happens he leans over to give you a kiss. And the fur collar on his jean jacket brushes up against your cheek. And this girl leaps out of her seat. stormed out of the movie theater. Who do you think you are? Well, I'm not that kind of girl and walks out. Okay, what happened? It had nothing to do with The kids, what happened inside the human brain is that past graded pattern for black, for got, overrode that particular situation that she's in with an image of fear. So when you're 16, and on a date, when you're three years old, and you're skipping down the street and a dog barks in front of you, you need to run back to your parents, when you're 16. That is, the last thing you should be doing. The brain is going to take that action, because the brain isn't working on logic, it's working on the fastest speed, the fastest action that it knows it can take in any given situation. And most of the time, the situation that our brain thinks we are in is not the situation we're actually that's the situation we were in, in the past when the pattern got created. That makes sense. Oh, 100%.

Josh Bolton:

Well, like, I was talking to a guy, he studies history and all that. And we he was saying how we as a society have become air quoted as saying, which is your left brain analogy. But I told him, I said, Well, the one biggest problem we have as a species, we're actually we're moving too quick for our bodies to cat, little our mind and bodies to catch up. And I told him, I said, some of these fears we have I said, like, back in the days of this will, African Savannah, there weren't that many green trees. So we're gonna say the Amazon forest where there's like bushes and trees and just cougars and Jaguars in the trees. If you noticed a bush move nine times out of 10 Your brains like that's a scary monster probably should just throw something at it and make it go away. So now, we don't have that. So I said, at least here in California, there is no random moose trying to Gore me kind of thing. So I said, the hunter instinct that we used to have well now. I'm like, sadly, we've retargeted to ourselves, which is why certain demographics get really, really, like targeted because it's like, oh, you're different. Therefore, my primitive brain that I had, like 100,000 years ago, says, different must kill it kind of thing, but we can't kill anymore, then it adds a whole new layer.

adele Spraggon:

Yes, yeah, definitely. Now luckily, for us, as human beings, our brain is highly, highly adaptable. highly adaptable, and we can repattern anything that didn't work for us in the past. So we're, we believe we are locked into a primitive brain, but we're actually not, we can change it, we can reprogram it. And the more people who do that, the more opportunity we have of creating that 100 Monkey syndrome. Have you heard of that? Josh? Yes, I have. Okay, wonderful. The 100 Monkey syndrome is when so many people on the planet reach level of change, it will ripple out and change everything. Now that makes total sense inside of patterns. Because we all communicate through language, when enough of us have changed our mindset changed our language changed our way of perceiving the world. Boom, that language will just spread. And everybody will at the same time be upgraded, which is amazing. Okay, so we have a massive opportunity here. And things are not our last, it is not hopeless. We just have to work on our own brain, our own patterns, and boom, we are doing a massive service for the rest of the planet.

Josh Bolton:

Wonderful. Before we get too late into this, how long do you have anyone after me at three?

adele Spraggon:

I don't I have to be off about 350. So

Josh Bolton:

that's wonderful. Actually, I'm gonna say so we can keep both of us on track because I feel like we can go at least in our hour or two. I'm sure you'll have to move back. Definitely. Hard to and to part two. So I got three questions for you. Okay. First one other than work? What have you been doing to keep yourself busy during these COVID lockdown times?

adele Spraggon:

Oh, my son built an aquaponics greenhouse. Nice setting a lot of time helping him is both him and my daughter. They're they're doing it together. They are really looking at the future of farming. And they are transforming the future of farming. Yes, I saw your little aquaponics thing there. I was so excited to see that. Absolutely. Yeah. So he's got a massive one. Josh, you should see it. It's like 250 feet. Nice. Yeah. So I've been spending a lot of time helping there. What else have I been doing? I've been doing writing a lot of content. So I'm, I'm writing a lot of when COVID hit, I had to change all of my business from being live events to being on an online space. So I've been doing that a lot.

Josh Bolton:

That's good. I will say and I'm, it's one of those I don't, there's gonna at least be half the demographic that wants to be in person half they're going to be online. If you could figure out a way to incorporate both, that'd be heavy eating good.

adele Spraggon:

Yeah, yeah, it's funny, because lately, my mind has been kicking up all these ideas again for, for being in the space, like being in an event space. So it's great, like stuff you can't do online. So there's benefits online. And then there's benefits of being together, as you know.

Josh Bolton:

Oh, yeah. I want to say it's, it's with a young kid, I would always tell him I said, there's whether you realize it or not, how we can perceive information. This is I said, you know, that everyone says, Oh, the vibe is bad. I said, that's the thing. But I just like the sixth sense, we, we just don't know how to quantify it kind of thing. And you get that feeling. If you're like, Oh, you walk into a fun place. You're like, this is fun. I'm going to be here, kind of thing. So you can't do that. Like, you could try it. But you can't.

adele Spraggon:

Yeah, you really can't. Can you it's just a different feel. It's more intimate than one nine, I find like it's much more personal. And you can really do some intimate stuff online. But yeah, you're totally right, Josh, I

Josh Bolton:

agree. Because it's I'm like I told him, the best way to explain is Disney's figured out is when you go to Disneyland, whether you're a grumpy old man or not, you somehow are really happy. So the second one is someone aspiring to be like you a successful woman wrote your own book, all that? What are some tips, tricks or advice you give them to start on that path?

adele Spraggon:

Believe in yourself. Brilliant, brilliant. The only reason that we are positioned as small and incapable and not good enough, you know, hey, listen, every person on this planet has a voice that says I'm not good enough. Don't believe that. Okay? The only reason that you have that voice is because you're running on past creative patterns. As soon as you change those, that voice melts away. You just will no longer know yourself like that. Okay, so believe in yourself really take on that you're so much more than what you've been taught. And I had to learn that lesson the hard way. I mean, honestly, Josh, it wasn't until I was like 4748 years old, that I started to question the operating instructions that I've been given that I started to question, wait a minute, this can't be me. There's got to be something else going on in my brain that does doesn't fit what I'm being told to do. Okay. Don't wait that long, guys. I mean, if you're listening to Josh, if you're Josh's age, start now. Don't wait to a young age to realize how brilliant and how absolutely perfect your brain is.

Josh Bolton:

Oh, yeah. It's each one's unique, special gift. As long as you know, I works. Yeah, it's great things can

adele Spraggon:

happen. And you can work it. Yes. Gotta get her book. So

Josh Bolton:

where can everyone get your book?

adele Spraggon:

Oh, you can get a free copy, just go to shift, four steps.com. That is the number four. And you can get a copy there. I'll send you a personally autographed copy. And you can also go like, some people aren't readers, that's fine. Like, if you're not somebody who likes to read books, you can get 30 Day access to all of my training to try it out. And you can get that at my name. Adele's fragen.com.

Josh Bolton:

Nice. I will definitely be linking those in the description for everyone. So and then it's just I remember you saying it's just shipping if you wanted the assignment,

adele Spraggon:

right? Yes, I should say yes. The book is free. All that I ask people pay for shipping and I will send you a free copy.

Josh Bolton:

Perfect. absolute honor and a pleasure to have you on.

adele Spraggon:

Well, thank you, Josh. It's been an honor to be here.