In recent years, and the last 18 months in particular, IT teams have been under pressure to become more agile to support an increasingly hybrid workplace amidst ever evolving business needs. Many businesses have packed years’ worth of digital transformation efforts into a short span of time while operating under reduced budgets. Both private and public cloud vendors are striving to better serve their customers’ needs, which frequently includes running workloads on a mix of on-premises and cloud infrastructure, dictated by workload and business needs.
While the idea of a Hybrid Cloud architecture has been around for a while, there have been several challenges that prevented rapid adoption of hybrid cloud platforms. Managing complex networking between on-premises datacenters and public clouds has been a long-standing obstacle, and re-architecting legacy applications for the cloud can be time-consuming and expensive. Another issue has been the inefficiency created by silos of using multiple different management tools for various clouds.
To address these challenges and power their customers IT needs to the next level, Nutanix is collaborating with Microsoft on hybrid cloud solutions that help blend the boundaries between cloud and on-premises for a true hybrid cloud experience.
Host: Andy Whiteside
Co-Host: Harvey Green
Co-Host: Jirah Cox
In recent years, and the last 18 months in particular, IT teams have been under pressure to become more agile to support an increasingly hybrid workplace amidst ever evolving business needs. Many businesses have packed years’ worth of digital transformation efforts into a short span of time while operating under reduced budgets. Both private and public cloud vendors are striving to better serve their customers’ needs, which frequently includes running workloads on a mix of on-premises and cloud infrastructure, dictated by workload and business needs.
While the idea of a Hybrid Cloud architecture has been around for a while, there have been several challenges that prevented rapid adoption of hybrid cloud platforms. Managing complex networking between on-premises datacenters and public clouds has been a long-standing obstacle, and re-architecting legacy applications for the cloud can be time-consuming and expensive. Another issue has been the inefficiency created by silos of using multiple different management tools for various clouds.
To address these challenges and power their customers IT needs to the next level, Nutanix is collaborating with Microsoft on hybrid cloud solutions that help blend the boundaries between cloud and on-premises for a true hybrid cloud experience.
Host: Andy Whiteside
Co-Host: Harvey Green
Co-Host: Jirah Cox
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Andy Whiteside: hi everyone and welcome to episode 31 of the tenants weekly i'm your host Andy whiteside i'm.
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Andy Whiteside: sitting in an airport in Richmond Virginia i've got a mask what I may have to grow on every so often is people won't buy that might show a question why I don't have it on.
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Andy Whiteside: i'm sitting here all by myself there's not there's not anyone within 100 feet of me, so I think i'm, I think, Dr phelps he would approve I guess got Harvey green with Harvey how's it going.
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Harvey Green: pretty good pretty good.
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Andy Whiteside: And, of course, our records, I called you I was listening, believe it or not, I listened to these things I listened to the the last year, we did on the flight up here and it was awesome I I reminded myself that I called you the professor and the last one, or maybe the one before that.
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Andy Whiteside: let's drivers new name the Professor.
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Jirah Cox: i'm also sitting here mass list because i'm sitting here alone in my house like I have been every day for the last year and a half.
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Andy Whiteside: So there's moving boxes in the background, are you moving or unpacking still.
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Jirah Cox: we're moving, we are in the process of moving from the Charlotte area over to the raleigh area sometime between now and the year.
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Jirah Cox: little boy you.
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Andy Whiteside: Know i'm a big fan, I went to college up there and I go up almost every weekend seems like my kids now.
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Andy Whiteside: But I am Charlotte guy I like both but.
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Andy Whiteside: what's.
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Andy Whiteside: what's a precipitating that.
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Jirah Cox: We have failing moving to the rural areas when we closer to them so.
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Andy Whiteside: what's good.
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Jirah Cox: Work from anywhere job is my anywhere can be.
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Jirah Cox: became to get can become rally.
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Harvey Green: anywhere it can be anywhere.
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Harvey Green: yeah it's amazing.
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Jirah Cox: So so deep.
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Andy Whiteside: So guys, we have a ton to cover on this one, we decided to cover this week hybrid cloud infrastructure with new techniques and Microsoft azure ad.
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Andy Whiteside: was again listen to the podcast if you're in we were we've been bugging jarrod about this one forever and he finally gave it to us we'll give him all the credit.
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Jirah Cox: No oh yeah totally my calling.
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Andy Whiteside: All the credit.
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Andy Whiteside: But IRA so let's.
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Andy Whiteside: let's just jump in and talk about the intro here and and why this why this happened and why it's happening now.
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Jirah Cox: yeah so the the y right.
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Jirah Cox: Probably drafts a lot of tailwind from the y eugenics clusters on any hyper scale or public cloud cluster right which is to give customers more agility more freedom and ease of migration between lots of environments in there, what we're you know our theme this year for for next for.
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Jirah Cox: A lot of stuff right there hybrid multi cloud right understanding that you can you have to have workloads that run in multiple areas right they can be aws can be azure can be on Prem.
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Jirah Cox: And we want to make those as easy to manage among each other and it's easy to move workloads between them and deploy workloads into as possible.
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Andy Whiteside: Right so timings interesting I I did a podcast with vmware a couple months ago, or a month ago and we've talked about their ability to have desktops run on top of the sphere, yes xp sphere in various clouds.
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Andy Whiteside: And then I listened to the citrix.
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Andy Whiteside: podcasts click down on the way up here and they were talking about the ability to have this service that manages workloads it can go across different clouds but only limited to vmware at the moment.
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Andy Whiteside: This idea that having workloads it can run and your case kind of natively on various platforms real time or at a moment's notice that's that's a big part of going going forward right.
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Jirah Cox: yeah for sure right.
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Jirah Cox: Well, I think, part of it becomes there's lots of interesting ways right, but of course it's it's it there's 18 ways to solve any given problem.
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Jirah Cox: and achieving a multi cloud deployment via building that new stuff right taking a template and spitting it out into five different clouds certain can be very valid for certain use cases.
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Jirah Cox: For most customers, I talked to their they already have their vm they already have their Apps.
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Jirah Cox: Sometimes there's an appetite for hey we're going to use converting tools to move them from X to y.
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Jirah Cox: A lot of times there's not right it's here or vm, but I have to you know, I have to get this APP running in this particular cloud.
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Jirah Cox: When that can be as simple as well hey great go you already have some mechanics nodes on Prem and you love me phoenix for running workloads for reasons X, Y and Z or there's more than three actually right reasons, a through Z.
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Jirah Cox: For running Linux workloads running workloads on the tanks on Prem.
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Jirah Cox: When those earnings next vm well guess what there's a really easy way to migrate my applications from you know it within my hybrid multi cloud right from cloud to cloud.
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Jirah Cox: New techniques new tannic right, and when I and newt annex is just a software defined solution right to run workloads So if I can get hardware from the cloud provider put software on it and move records move workloads over that's a pretty easy solution to to get you.
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Andy Whiteside: guys back in the day, were smart enough to know and that's why Acropolis hypervisor happen the way I did or is that just just happened to be just happened to be how it worked out in the long run.
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Jirah Cox: I don't know six of one half dozen the other.
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Jirah Cox: You know little column a little column B, I mean you know HP right has its roots in giving our customers freedom of choice right.
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Jirah Cox: So we can have more flexible deployment options relay on you know already, we have a whole gamut of on Prem hover solutions right off the different shapes sizes logos and you know notes from a cloud provider or just another option now.
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Andy Whiteside: Alright, so as I promised would move forward rather quickly, because we have so much to cover it says now in preview so I know in the conversation.
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Andy Whiteside: A week or so ago there was a little bit of banter back and forth around hey you delivered it well, not quite it's in preview or yay or something I forget what why you called it anyway, what is, what is this now and free piece me.
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Jirah Cox: I think, even as long as we've been doing this podcast you can see we're making forward progress right so used to we couldn't talk about it now, we can talk about hey it's in preview.
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Jirah Cox: The so it's a it's a journey, not a destination.
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Jirah Cox: The yeah so no worse we're thrilled to have azure as the latest announced as part of our hybrid you know cloud platform.
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Andy Whiteside: yeah and then there's a nice graphical representation here that's got prism at the top and it's got various platforms below it.
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Andy Whiteside: If I highlight you know it shows on premises or new tactics private cloud, which means your data Center or some colo wherever you're running mechanics licenses that you've.
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Andy Whiteside: purchased or subscribed to, and then the new tannic cloud platform brings in all under the prism banner as you're at this point right.
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Jirah Cox: Right, I would go just one step beyond that right to say it's not it's not really private cloud unless you also have thought about automation governance, you know accounting whether that's real chargeback or more commonly just shame back for your top consumers.
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Jirah Cox: You know.
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Andy Whiteside: All things tomato I say tomato.
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Harvey Green: Right.
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Jirah Cox: And so, all those things when they can apply to both many tanks on Prem MIT tactics in the cloud right that's what really what's that that private cloud.
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Jirah Cox: maturity model slide across you know from whether I want to consume that as notes on Prem nodes in the cloud either or but mix of both.
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Andy Whiteside: Any comments on that dialogue around what is cloud, and what is not cloud and how this applies to it.
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Harvey Green: I mean that the big thing for me and anybody who's been listening to this knows that i've been waiting on this for a while.
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Harvey Green: And we've got plenty of people who have been waiting on in a while just just the flexibility that this brings you.
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Harvey Green: The flexibility behind this makes the whole you know buzzwords of hybrid multi cloud actually take place and be real, because now you have.
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Harvey Green: The ability to do any your private data Center, you have the ability to do with an azure, you have the ability to do with an aws and you have the ability to use all three of them at the same time that's what you want to do.
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Harvey Green: Now you actually have the ability to do hybrid multi cloud the way that we've been talking about it for so long.
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Harvey Green: And do it under one platform and be managed, you know under prism or tourism central so basically under one roof.
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Harvey Green: you've got some commonalities between all three of them, even though they are completely different sets of resources, and you know handled by completely different sets of people.
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Andy Whiteside: we've had several customers that I can think of that have had citrix built in their data Center which you could argue was as a service and now they've moved to citrix and cloud as a service.
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Andy Whiteside: And now they're collapsing one of their data centers that was running new tactics and going to replace it with as your maybe even new tactics on azure and then continue to maintain new tactics and the other, so that they get the best of both worlds absolutely.
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Jirah Cox: totally wrong if you're if you're a to cite two data centers like today with like you know sort of a primary and secondary or prod and Dr construct I mean it's.
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Jirah Cox: One of the easiest ways to go beyond kick the tires right because you can always tire cookies easy putting testing things for real.
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Jirah Cox: Is a little bit harder but saying let's try a cloud based Dr site, one of the easiest ways to stand up a cluster right because it's it stands up in about you know, an hour or so build a vpn tunnels, to get to it and then start replicating your workloads.
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Andy Whiteside: So dire the next section in here says three easy steps to hybrid cloud step one is deploying new tactics on azure.
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Andy Whiteside: That that that similar to building out your new tonics environment on premises now you're just going through whatever process that is within the azure environment.
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Jirah Cox: The if we if we steal any prior art here will bring you our new tannic control point right, so we build a cloud.
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Jirah Cox: Deployment model that actually builds the notes for you right, so you simply log into your portal.
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Jirah Cox: and say I want some notes on azure here's my tenant subscription all right go consume nodes and putting candidates on them for me please, and thank you.
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Jirah Cox: You go away and come back in about 45 minutes and that's all of them running for you so there's nothing to actually do on your part, you just tell it how big of a cluster you want it to build and it built for you.
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Harvey Green: And this is under the banner that they released at that next around the Titanic flow networking and its new features that it can automatically build these things out for you.
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Jirah Cox: Right, so I mean the cool thing about anything with API right is that it becomes very, very automated so that that type of yeah we did highlight on the stage workflow that said.
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Jirah Cox: When I declare disaster right that becomes like a button that I just push and that button can grow grab more nodes bring them online expand the cluster once they're online fail over the workloads we're up and running.
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Jirah Cox: Easy peasy and, most importantly, predictable right like the you know I can say i'm helping customers do.
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Jirah Cox: You know, on Prem infrastructure based disaster recovery for a long time, using a whole slew of products i've never seen a customer that had the whole thing start to finish in an automated very boring right because we want.
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Jirah Cox: In this case, boring, you know run this script and there is no step to type of encapsulation I think that was a very.
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Jirah Cox: i'll say again boring but the effective use case for it right.
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Jirah Cox: I don't want interesting Dr fail overs.
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Harvey Green: Well, and that's that's funny too right, because when you describe it that way and talk about how you get it to the point where it's predictable and boring right i'm looking at.
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Harvey Green: The ad man who finds out hey this data centers down, we really need this up, we really need this up and he goes fine.
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Jirah Cox: yeah totally.
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Harvey Green: This is a button insert.
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Jirah Cox: insert visual of Harvey pushing a button here that you probably didn't get.
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Jirah Cox: The yeah right like insane in one sense, you almost could think of a of a chart of boring to interesting on one axis and then like it practitioner seniority, on the other.
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Jirah Cox: Right and the more boring, a task is.
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Jirah Cox: The more you can, the more people on on in the organization can run it right if it's a really interesting task that is a select few people that you can give that task to the more boring, it is anybody can do it right, and you want anybody to be able to do with Dr fail over.
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Harvey Green: yeah ultimately you want to get it to that point where anybody can do it so you're not depending on that one person and whether or not they wake up to their phone ringing at three o'clock in the morning.
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Jirah Cox: yeah right, the decision to fail over as a business decision, but the how to do it needs to be a anybody, you know whoever's on call it can knock that out.
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Andy Whiteside: So guys sorry if I missed this or am I logging into a new tannic so site in plugging in my azure information or is this all all hosted and managed in microsoft's world.
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Jirah Cox: I think yeah I think this should use our MC mmm control panel it's the Multi cloud management plane I think don't don't quote me on the acronyms but it's our.
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Jirah Cox: cloud provisioning platform right and so.
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Jirah Cox: It it's where.
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Jirah Cox: I said, if if we if we reuse any prior art here like like we did for provisioning on aws you know you simply log into the mechanics portal hop over to the to the clusters area and then from there, you can build a cluster on you know now you know your choice of either of these two clouds.
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Jirah Cox: So yeah you'll start you'll start and end on the next portal on a on a portal that we maintain for you.
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Andy Whiteside: Number two under this heading of easy three easy steps is unify on Prem.
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Andy Whiteside: i'll highlight the word on Prem because some if you will say on premises on Prem and azure environments, through the use of prison central you want to talk through that a little bit.
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Jirah Cox: yeah it's talking about how you know your day to day experience of running this kind of environment really doesn't change dramatically right you're simply running another eugenics cluster that can be part of all your existing automation workflows all your existing management.
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Jirah Cox: panes of glass is boring but like tabs in your browser right the same prison central that you used today can manage the clusters you already have on Prem and you can manage the clusters that you build in the cloud in the future.
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Jirah Cox: As well as target them for automation target them for application they're just another effects classroom.
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Harvey Green: yeah so for a lot of our customers a lot of people who are already using new tactics, especially those who are using it in multiple data centers using prison central is.
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Harvey Green: Already things that you know something they do now they're already trained on there they already know how to use it, this is just adding another data Center that up just so happens to be an azure.
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Harvey Green: So they still control it the same way, they can still use the same control panels, the same screens that they're already used to.
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Harvey Green: This just puts it in another data set I mean it's literally you know we talked about cloud all the time right what is cloud it's just somebody else's data Center this, this is just more proof of that you're able to use the current.
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Harvey Green: tools that you're using in your data Center right now, for you know azure or for aws and use Cassandra clusters.
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Andy Whiteside: So then step three says migrate workloads with these I don't I guess that's a step right you've you've got it all plumbed up and connected and then it's just a matter of.
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Andy Whiteside: Moving live workloads if i'm not mistaken back and forth, and can you do the concept of live migration between the on Prem and the and the cloud world are.
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Jirah Cox: All different Armor we mentioned that specifically yet so far in the in the preview.
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Jirah Cox: about the about live migration, but yeah for sure.
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Jirah Cox: Migration in general right depending usually there's a lot of latency considerations around that.
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Jirah Cox: But for sure replicating snapshots like this architect like this highlights, you know sending data from containers all the vm already have.
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Jirah Cox: can move there, whether it's with our native new tannic replication or from any vm architecture right using our move tool right which can do basically anything to new tannic type of migration for you.
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Andy Whiteside: Alright i'm going to pause here for a second and ask the question asked you, the day do either one of you guys know about the entitlements.
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Andy Whiteside: That happened in the azure world like the Multi session windows windows client aka windows 11 at this point, but jars as anybody else brought that up to you guys, since we talked last week.
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Jirah Cox: No, I remain as agnostic as possible, as I can be on Microsoft licensing.
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Andy Whiteside: You might get this one again i'm i'm just wanting.
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Jirah Cox: I can say that as much as you want no worries.
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Andy Whiteside: I think.
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Andy Whiteside: I think that's just huge right the ability to use new tactics and all the ui and all the power that comes along with that and get the entitlements of multi session and true windows subscription licensing.
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Andy Whiteside: That that's, just like the like the nirvana of this story to me see are our top priority.
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Jirah Cox: sounds very exciting to me i'm glad you're i'm glad you're enthused about it.
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Harvey Green: I like what you doing their job.
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Andy Whiteside: All right, sorry about the public service announcement, the back alright so next section as feature highlights number one procurement in minutes, I think you guys touched on that with Harvey hit the fictitious button a minute ago but what's that mean.
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Jirah Cox: I mean yeah I mean I we we've done this for customers before right like they they hit the button.
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Jirah Cox: Had a cluster about 45 minutes later and we're replicating thumbs up to it later that day, so not a lengthy procurement.
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Jirah Cox: To get it up and running.
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Harvey Green: No, I mean that's kind of the point right you when you look at using cloud architecture or public files you're you're doing that for the flexibility.
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Andy Whiteside: And you go back and watch it nearly that was horrible but man was so good.
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Jirah Cox: I can, I can, I can tell them context clues right, this is like Michael hump this would be you know.
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Jirah Cox: Adam West Burt Ward you know Batman Robin like tied to the board like sinking into the VAT of acid and they're like ah same BAT time same BAT channel yes.
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Andy Whiteside: And that was.
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Andy Whiteside: able to watch it.
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Harvey Green: TAO.
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Jirah Cox: Is the, that is the most enjoyable bad TV ever Washington.
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Andy Whiteside: I thought you were gonna go somewhere like South bar or something more.
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Andy Whiteside: More.
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Jirah Cox: More recent generation, I mean that's my life philosophy Why go South park when I could go Batman.
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Andy Whiteside: yeah okay.
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Jirah Cox: words to live by.
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Andy Whiteside: Alright guys well i'll let you go with that one I got a hotel and have dinner I got to get to but we'll do a part two of this and.
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Andy Whiteside: Maybe there'll be more content even than what we've covered so far, but we will revisit this one, and hopefully people got a lot out of it it's a big thing and as we've you know, been chasing jarrod forever and he finally got it out.
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Andy Whiteside: Right clusters on.
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Jirah Cox: sorry that I was such a such a hold up there, you know.
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Jirah Cox: i'll try to do better next time or something.
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Andy Whiteside: i'm just glad you had time to get all the code together.
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Jirah Cox: Well, you know that's why I said I have nothing to do now right.
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Andy Whiteside: it's work here is done he's gonna move to raleigh and find a different project to go.
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Harvey Green: out to other regions cool.
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Andy Whiteside: Alright guys thanks for the time we'll do again next week.