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The Face of Sports Betting: Mazi VS on Mastering the Game and Making Music Moves

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Ever wonder how someone can turn their passion for sports into a profitable career? Mazi VS joins us to share his incredible journey from a Vegas newbie to a prominent figure in the sports betting world. We kick off by exploring his background, discussing how he built his company, Mazi Picks, to offer specialized betting advice. Mazi opens up about his methods for selecting winning picks and managing a substantial bankroll, including a recent thrilling bet where he risked $300,000 and walked away with $317,000 in profit.

Curious about the nitty-gritty of sports betting strategies? We dive into the importance of understanding betting lines and debunk some common myths about rigged games. From the thrill of betting on football and basketball to the complexities of college sports, Mazi offers insights that any sports enthusiast can appreciate. We also touch on crucial topics like bankroll management and gambling arbitrage, comparing the experiences of betting online versus physical casinos. 

But it's not all about numbers and strategies. Mazi and I also talk about the perks of living in Las Vegas, from the networking opportunities to the city's vibrant dining scene and business landscape. We wrap up with a discussion on influencer branding and social media, sharing tips on building a genuine personal brand and recounting a memorable music collaboration with Jim Jones. Whether you're a seasoned bettor or just curious about the world of sports gambling, this episode promises a comprehensive and engaging look at the many facets of this high-stakes industry.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Vegas Circle Podcast with your hosts, paki and Chris. We are people who are passionate about business, success and culture, and this is our platform to showcase the people in our city who make it happen. On today's podcast, we're going to be diving into the world of professional sports betting, exploring the ins and outs and how we can make some serious money. Please join us in welcoming the face of sports betting. We got Mazzy VS man, so thanks for joining the circle, brother.

Speaker 2:

Appreciate you, man. Yes, sir, no problem man. So shout out to G6, man, we got to let him know. He in the room, everything happens. Yeah, man, my guy G6.

Speaker 1:

Friend of the show. I think he was on our pod maybe about two or three years ago. Okay, so definitely been keeping tabs on him and I appreciate him connecting us, but let's jump right in. Man. So you Sports Ben King man. Yes, sir, how long have you actually been Sports, ben?

Speaker 2:

I've been Sports Ben, I'd say professionally for maybe like seven, eight years now. Okay, seven, eight years now, okay, yeah, it's been a minute, so I don't know nothing about sports at all. You don't even watch football to tell you something. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

Busy man. You know what it was so like when I first I moved here in Vegas in 07. So I've been here 17 years.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but I had made like this in my mind, like I didn't even gamble before I moved here. Oh really, I didn't play nothing, nothing at all.

Speaker 3:

Nah, I mean I did a little car and see an NBA.

Speaker 2:

I pretty much like started like gambling seriously when I moved to Vegas.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh, interesting.

Speaker 2:

Is that because, like just the lights, the glitz, of glamour? No, I just did it and then took it to a whole nother level. Oh fun, yeah, yeah, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk about this. Mozzy Picks, right? So Mozzy Picks is technically your company. Right, that's my company. Yeah, so that's how you help people consult with them. Pretty much a whole menu of products, right, correct? Yeah, you probably walk us through that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, pretty much Mozzy Picks. So pretty much I pretty much just give people the winners. We won a day. We had Astros today. We won a day.

Speaker 2:

So you know that was my exclusive player day, so that was a good day. So, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I got a different package VIP clients I got exclusive clients. So if you're a smaller player looking to build up a bankroll, vip plays out for you. If you're a bigger player, you got a big bankroll looking to slam my best player of the day, that's my exclusive player. So I got different package for all different types of bankrolls.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so what are they betting? Are they betting from whatever they have in their budget, whatever I give them?

Speaker 2:

I give them a bankroll system where most people don't follow it. They bet whatever they want to bet. So I still give it out, just where you can't blame me, okay, I still give out a bankroll management system, but most people just bet.

Speaker 3:

I didn't want to bet, you know how do you like find these picks right? Is it inside? Is how you feeling about it? Is there a lot of work that goes into oh?

Speaker 2:

yeah, well, now I've been doing it so long every day, uh, now I could pretty much wake up, you know 10, 15, 20 minutes and know what game I'm going to like. That's going to be my big game for the day. So yeah, we just had we had a we on a nice little run. Right now I just had a big game. I just dropped the day in the life on YouTube. So, yeah, we had a big big game, like it was playing the Rangers and Red Sox was the underdog. It was like plus three, it was like plus 107. At Circa, it was plus 105 at Caesars and I had $300,000 on that game.

Speaker 2:

So, I won like $317,000 profit $300,000 on that game. Yeah, that's crazy. That was crazy, man. That was crazy. I posted a ticket on my social media. That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

I posted a ticket on my social media.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy, yeah, $300.

Speaker 1:

That was a big game. That's scary.

Speaker 2:

And they stored the game down 2-0.

Speaker 3:

Oh man. So you know, do you double up after that, like once you start getting down, you're like oh man, I'm still feeling this.

Speaker 2:

Nah, it was a lot of money already on it. So so that was a big game, but I liked the pitcher and even though he was a losing pitcher, he pitched good against the Rangers. So you know, at the end of the Rangers pitcher he had a better record but he wasn't that good. So you know, you got to really know the pitch because sometimes in baseball, especially like you'll have a pitcher, he might have a losing record but he pitched, you know good, against that particular team, so team, so yeah, it's just all those things I'll do.

Speaker 3:

yeah, it kind of like you know this, the funding right, like is it the business model?

Speaker 2:

or you, this is like your money, you're out there putting on the line like is that people investing in you? Oh no, I have no man. I wish I had to invest in this all my money, yeah, all my money. So pretty much the only thing people like they just pay me for the plays, but like me, betting, that's you know. That's all to me, yeah, yeah I wish a lot of people ask me that don't like do I wish I never had invested? Never, yeah, I wish I am.

Speaker 1:

I'm jealous, people do have it I gotta ask right, like I would lose my mind watching that game to be in my seat.

Speaker 2:

Like I have to come back and see you later. You have a lot of patience, like are you I've been doing it for so long, man, so yeah it's. I mean I honestly, you know that's kind of like not even my biggest, like I had over two million on the super bowl. Like they don't let you bet that much, you know, like on a regular game, but like super bowl there's so much money coming in, it lets you slam whatever you want to slam. So I like super bowl just because they will let you bet.

Speaker 3:

Like, if you want to bet huge, they'll let you get it in on the super bowl, that's's what I was going to ask, like you know, because do they have limits on what you can bet? Yeah, because obviously these casinos are in there making money. Yeah, they have limits.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they have limits. I mean I'm pretty much banned from MGM, like they don't want to even take my place. No more, literally. That's in the new day in life too.

Speaker 1:

I went over there trying none of them don't even want to take.

Speaker 2:

They won't take my bets at all.

Speaker 1:

Why, though, because?

Speaker 2:

I spanked them too much, man. So now I mean I still got online accounts. So I got like nine different online accounts, you know. And then I got like, if I really just need to bet in Vegas, you know there's a couple of books that are still letting me get some action in, but yeah, so they win, it happens I was.

Speaker 2:

I was a non-believer at first. People used to tell me that, like you know, yo, you know you don't escape. I said I don't bang because they would let me get action in so frequently. But yeah, I got that email one day and yeah it's a done deal. It is they don't want.

Speaker 3:

Yeah so is that kind of the model, then you really have to get a lot of accounts. So once you become a great better you really the whole goal at that point is like I need to get you know 15, 20, 100 accounts.

Speaker 2:

So I can spread it out. Yeah, you can. Yeah, you just need more to marry you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the more to marry, yeah the first time I had ever heard about was Dana White, right? I heard Dana White talking about being banned from different casinos and I'm like what's the point? But it's because you're winning so much. That's what Chris was sharing with me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've been with Dana before. Um, we gambled. Uh, one night we was at Red Rock one night it was like maybe like a month or two ago and yeah, he don't really do too much sports, he's more like blackjack and, you know, black, like table games. But yeah, he put some big money down, though, like $100,000, $200,000 on, just like on hands.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, you don't gamble the table games and things like that, not big money just for fun, Like I got some friends in town.

Speaker 2:

We just, you know, hanging out in the casinos. I might put a little bit on it. But honestly, man, the table game, they got too much of an edge, Just like you're going to get smoked Simple.

Speaker 1:

That's the reason why they're a billion dollar resource. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, so like when did you know you were good? So seven you're like okay, people need to listen to me.

Speaker 2:

When I first started, ben and I had like I only moved to Vegas. I had like $50,000. Where'd?

Speaker 3:

you move from.

Speaker 2:

When I was moved. I was in Atlanta when I moved to Vegas but yeah, and pretty much I had turned like a $50,000 bankroll to like $300,000. And like literally, man, it was like when I was like maybe just a few days, maybe like a week, five, four, five days, and yeah, and after that I was pretty much hooked because I have never seen 300,000 just like that.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, because you like, like sports, always, like, always been a sports fan.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I always been a sports fan, played sports since I was like four years old. So I always been into sports and I always watch sports. Like I'm really a sports head, I don't really watch too much TV, like I don't watch episodes of Power or none of that, I just pretty much watch sports.

Speaker 1:

I literally was going to be my next question.

Speaker 2:

Are you?

Speaker 1:

literally studying it all. You must have it at your house.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just watch it. Yeah, I got a lot of TVs over to sports, but yeah, I really just study it and you know, once you watch it and you know it, and you just study it 24-7, you're going to get good at it.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so yeah, and how important are the lines? Like when you're really trying to determine the lines tell you everything.

Speaker 2:

See, a lot of people think that's smart. You said that See, the lines tell you everything. Like the lines tell you everything. That's the money, that's the money. So if you know how to read the lines, you know how to make money. So I could look at the lines Like literally I don't really look at the games, sometimes I look at the pictures and stuff like that. But if I like the picture and I look at the line, like they had a better prime example, when I baked that big money on the Red Sox, they had the better picture, the Rangers the better picture and there was a low line pitcher and there was a low line they were like minus 125, so I'm like hold up, they got a better pitcher and they only minus 125.

Speaker 2:

So that helped me even. I love the other pitcher on the losing pitcher, but you got a losing pitcher on the mound and you got a better pitcher, but they only minus 125 so, yeah, it's just the lines that watch those lines, because I, you know, I have a buddy of mine.

Speaker 3:

He has like a screen with like three screens. He just watched like a ticker all day long.

Speaker 2:

yeah, I, I watched it like that. But I just wake up and just look at the lines and I can just look at the lines and just tell, like something fishy about this.

Speaker 1:

So do you feel like back in the day, like Michael Jordan, right? Okay. For example, right, big gambler yeah, we've all heard the stories. Yeah, do you feel like people will give up the game because they see certain lines on there? Do you think there's a behind the scenes setup where you know for sure, okay, they're going to mess up. They're going to mess up for sure because there's too much money on the line for this particular game Like it's a setup.

Speaker 2:

Like it's a setup? Yeah, like it's a setup. Do I think the game may be rigged?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, being rigged no.

Speaker 2:

Because, honestly, sportsbooks don't care enough to rig it, because they just want money coming on both sides as long as there's money coming on both sides, that's all the sportsbook care about. They're not fixing the line, they're not fixing the games. As long as there's money coming on both sides, that's all the sportsbook care about. They don't care about if a team win or lose. As long as they got money coming on both sides, they good.

Speaker 3:

They're going to make money, Don't? They make the money in the middle the difference, Like so the difference between the line and what the losing team and the winning team is betting. They make the money in the middle of the separation.

Speaker 2:

What do you?

Speaker 3:

mean Because isn't there like a spread difference? Yeah, it's a spread, yeah, between the two different.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's why they want money to come in on both sides. That's why if you see a line move I mean the sportsbook and the line makers are tricky man They'll have it where they literally, if they need money coming on another team let's say a team come in and they're their favorite minus one six then they know they're going to win They'll drop their line down and make you think that, okay, money's come in on the opposite team when it's really not. But they just want people to come back. That's it. Long as the money coming on both sides, that's all the sports will care about.

Speaker 1:

What's like your favorite sport Is it? You look at like boxing and UFC and stuff like that. Or you look, yeah, I like football, basketball, yeah, I like all sports.

Speaker 2:

Uh, personally I like all sports, like to watch, like I'm like boxing, ufc, all sports. But the bit I like, uh, boxing, is kind of hard to beat box because the lines be so outrageous. So, yeah, so they had, like you know, you might like Terrence Crawford. I think he was like minus 2,000, so you put, you know, I put, 2,000 dollars and so it's like yeah, it's nothing, but I like.

Speaker 2:

UFC I'm real good at UFC. We had some big UFC cards this year. Hockey I love hockey. I love NFL. I love baseball. Those are my top sports Hockey and NFL and baseball. Baseball is everyday money. Nhl when it starts is everyday money, but NFL everybody loves to bet football. Football is when everybody want to bet Super Bowl. Yeah, nfl, right around the corner, so we about to slam it.

Speaker 1:

What about college? Are you looking at college sports too, or just strictly professional?

Speaker 2:

I love college basketball more than I like. I like watching both, but as far as betting, I like betting college basketball a little bit better than college football. College football is a little tough, like it's a little tough.

Speaker 3:

So 51 by 50 yeah, like the spreads are high and you know you got the. You know the dude might have broken with his girlfriend and you know they still ain't professionals, man you know, so you know they go through you, they go through you, know they go through a little different stuff in college.

Speaker 2:

So I don't feel comfortable putting two, three hundred grand on a college student man, like you know and you know the more popular the sport like football, are those lines just a lot tighter than maybe an unpopular sport.

Speaker 2:

Well, the lines are not really much tighter, but the lines are like, I guess, when NFL, when it's like a little bit more popular, like it's kind of good because the sports will let you get more money on those games. So you know, in more popular sports, like as far as like NFL, you know they will let you get some big money on NFL games because, like I said, money's coming on both sides. So as long as the money coming on both sides.

Speaker 1:

It's all the sports will care about, you know, because they're going to make money. You set yourself like I'm a big budget person, I'm sorry spending $200, $300 but, do you set yourself up like, okay, I got a certain budget I'm going to spend today, like that's it.

Speaker 2:

As far as like money, put money aside to bet yeah, no matter how big your bankroll you can be a billionaire you still got to have a budget. You still got to have a budget because I mean, when you bet especially with $200, $300, you can lose. Let's say, you're putting four games, you're down a million dollars that quick, just off four games. So, yeah, you got to have a bankroll. Bankroll management is really more important than winning. Okay, you know so, managing your bankroll the smaller the bankroll, the more you got to manage. But no matter what your bankroll is if it's $1,000 to $1 million, you still got to manage it, no matter. There's no in between.

Speaker 3:

Are you betting every day or is it like you wait until you get a good feeling for a game?

Speaker 2:

I bet, even if I'm like, do I bet $300? No, not every day, but you know, when I have a game that I really, really love, yeah, I hammer so pretty much. I'm pretty much been something every day. You know what I'm saying, so, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, like, how do you like so somebody that's not as knowledgeable? Like, let's say, I'm looking at a game, right? Okay, how are you price strategizing? Like, okay, maybe I put 50 000 on this, 200 on this, 300 000 on this. Like, how do you know the when, when to go? Yeah, like, when, the?

Speaker 2:

yeah, when to go big, it's just really man, it's just like when honestly or you can feel it and then like when everything lines up, like I have a different, like I have a little strategy, like when everything is lines up and all the all my angles lines up and I just it's just, everything's just perfect, kind of I don't want to go too much once everything lines up that's why I like yeah, I'm going big today, yeah and you know I'm sure to see a lot more pop up as arbitrage.

Speaker 3:

Are you familiar with the gambling arbitrage? No, it's where you are playing the lines like so I go to circa and my line's 105 and I go to oh, yeah, yeah, and I play in the middle. So I may only I bet 2000, 2000. I may win $90, but it's a guaranteed $90. Hmm, I never heard of that one. Oh yeah, we'll talk after yeah, I never heard.

Speaker 2:

It's a whole thing. I never heard of that one. It's pretty it's pretty interesting, but you see, it's like it's a guaranteed it, but you, but it's an automatic win your automatic win as long as you're betting at two different casinos, and they all set each other got it okay as long as the line shifts are a little oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I mean it's kind of similar to like not really I don't know, because, like at the lines were different. When I went to the circa, then I went to the caesar's palace, it was like yeah, because you know they'll drop them a lot.

Speaker 3:

Right, you go to go to one. It's minus six. You go over here. It's minus three. Yeah, they will so now you're playing the difference on both sides and you're arbitraging the two against each other, essentially.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy, I never heard of that one.

Speaker 3:

That's crazy, I never heard that either.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy. I'm starting to see more and more in Vegas, it seems like. I mean sports betting has gotten so big.

Speaker 3:

I don't even know what the pots are, probably internationally.

Speaker 1:

But how does it work in Vegas? Right, Like? We have DraftKings here, but DraftKings you can't bet at a DraftKings. That's strictly online, right, DraftKings?

Speaker 2:

Do Vegas have DraftKings?

Speaker 1:

Well their corporate office is here but you can't bet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can't bet on DraftKings here. They drive Kings. I don't think they have a FanDuel, which I do love FanDuel. I go to New York a lot, so I love FanDuel. I love the way they have their sports book. I love their lines. I love their own line. I love everything about FanDuel. So shout out to FanDuel. I smack them when I go to New York.

Speaker 3:

But shout out to, they're in Jersey, they have a.

Speaker 1:

FanDuel sports book here at one of the uh, freemont casinos, do they really? Yeah, okay, I can't remember which one, though okay, so when you're doing your, your bets right, you can bet online plus in the casino. Yeah, so if I wanted to bet on two games, like I want to bet on whoever it is, raiders or whatever it is, I can bet online a amount, bet in the casino, and it might be different. Whatever you call lines where you can get paid more right.

Speaker 2:

Uh, sometimes, yeah sometimes the lines you gotta shop lines, but sometimes the lines do be different. Uh, so you might get like a, let's say you might have one game at the casinos. It might be, let's say, minus 130. Then you going online, it might be minus 125. So it, the lines usually are pretty much almost the same, but it might be a little off which you know, a minus 30, 130 and a minus 125. So it, the lines usually are pretty much almost the same, but it might be a little off which you know, a minus 30, 130 and a minus 125. That's a difference, that's a big difference.

Speaker 3:

So you know you've been in the big numbers like, yeah, exactly, it's a big difference. You prefer like a money line spread or a point spread a money line, uh, it's just a.

Speaker 2:

I mean baseball I I usually just take. I like money lines, like either like I really don't like you know, like, yeah, a lot of people, you know I like underdogs in baseball a lot too, because I mean underdogs win every day. I literally look at their lines today and just see how many underdogs probably hit. But yeah, I like underdogs in baseball. But to answer your question, I like I like I like money lines, yeah, and you know, and uh, when it comes to baseball, it's just a penalty sports too, money lines baseball, but I like spreads when it comes to nfl that makes sense.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because the money lines you have more potential for a bigger win. Right, because if you're betting underdogs you're more likely to. Yeah, if you just bet the straight money line.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because if you bend the spread on the underdog, I wish they got a win by a certain amount. You just win like minus 110. So you know you put a hundred dollars that wins like 90 bucks. So yeah, then if you would have went through with the underdogs just went out right 100 might win like two, three hundred. So yeah, I love underdogs, man. So that's how you really when in sports been you really when I first started sports. That's why I can always tell, like a beginner sports better a handicapper, like they always bet the favorites, like when. That's what I did. The same thing when I first started I was betting favorites. Find out the favorites oh, you might have 200. They pose a win. Oh man, you'll get smoked like that. I've been doing this so long. The value the money is in the underdogs. They win all the time Underdogs.

Speaker 1:

You got to find those underdogs. You make me want to gamble. Wanna gamble, man? I swear to god, even with the big Super Bowl win.

Speaker 2:

That was an underdog oh yeah very true and. I'm a diehard Niners fan and I was at the Super.

Speaker 1:

Bowl and you bet on the Chiefs.

Speaker 2:

I bet on the Chiefs, yeah, and I had, and I'm a diehard Niners fan, but I just I'm not been against Patrick Mahomes, like he, yeah, he like, yeah he different, he special. And he was underdogs too, like I think.

Speaker 1:

I think it was like plus yeah, plus money yeah, so can you like watch a game live and just be calm if you got $300,000 on a game, yeah, when it's winning. That's what I'm saying. That's hard, that's hard to watch.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when it's, I go to a lot of games I have money on. Do you really? Yeah, I think I would sit at home. I don't think.

Speaker 1:

I could beat it.

Speaker 2:

I'd probably break something. I went to a game I had some big money on and it didn't go the way I wanted. I think I had like $100,000. Oh man, I remember that night I had $100,000. It was on the Vegas Knights hockey game and they posed me it was a line I shit, I don't even bet like big lines like it was a minus 210, which I'm thinking like, okay, there's minus 210, I'm going to the game. Let me just, you know, throw a hundred. I threw a hundred thousand on it and, uh, I think it was when I was minus 210, so it's probably gonna win. Like I think, maybe like 50 I forgot what 60 000, maybe 40, 56, 000, like that. And, um, to make a long story short, I went to the game. It was a blowout loser from the start. Literally. It was playing a Vancouver Canucks and I think this was like two, three years ago. So Canucks, they sucked that year, so they supposed to blow them out. I think Vegas Knights was like hot, they supposed to blow them, yeah or win a.

Speaker 1:

Stanley Cup.

Speaker 2:

I think they did. And they supposed to blow them out. So I went to the game.

Speaker 1:

I get there first, so I'm like five minutes later, getty already down five zero, like what. How they scored five. It was a blowout losing. So yeah, y'all probably got arrested.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's no way you know so yeah, I like, I like going to some of the games that I've been I've been honestly I've been doing for, like I said, I've been doing for so long so it really like honestly, I don't really like you know but even that moment, yeah, I feel like I don't know, maybe it's just me because I'm not a huge game like pocket.

Speaker 3:

but that moment I feel like I don't know, maybe it's just me because I'm not a huge fan of hockey, but that moment where you're like, damn, I just lost 100. You know, like, contemplate it and think for a second. You have that pit in your stomach.

Speaker 2:

Nah, because I know it's a tomorrow.

Speaker 3:

That's true, yeah, yeah it's a tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

But the biggest mistake you can make when you lose money is just bet a random game that's coming on later. That's coming on later. So let's say that game was like 4 o'clock. Let's say I lose 100 and let's say it's another game coming on at 7. Most people the first imps. Let me see what game.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, sure, let me double up. Try to make it back.

Speaker 2:

See, that's what a lot of people make a mistake. Don't chase a loss Like the next day. You'll have a better outlook on tomorrow's game.

Speaker 1:

I can see just from talking with you you're very disciplined. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I can tell you're very strategic, very disciplined.

Speaker 1:

But like who's like, mentorship is big for me, coaching things like that. Are there people in your ear that are like no, don't do that?

Speaker 2:

I don't see, I've never been lucky to have nobody in my ear man, really Never, like I've never been lucky to have someone. I mean, you know I have my mom and dad, but they're not like business as far as, like they don't know about my business so they can't really give me too much. You know, can short the crystals about my business. So sure, um, you know I talked to them about personal things, but like I never had nobody like business, you know to teach me no, never, yeah, yeah, never.

Speaker 1:

It was just yeah, I wish I did you know, but the money you make you probably hire somebody to mentor you and say look, I need you to put. Show me what to do with this money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's like the ultimate goal then? Right, because is gambling something you do for the rest of your life? That's gotta be nerve wracking. It's stressful, yeah, it's stressful.

Speaker 2:

I mean, even if I'm not in a game, I still can do the sports consulting business. So I do that, I do a couple little investments, I do music for fun Do you really Okay, you actually an artist or you make music?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2:

I'm an artist. I guess you can say I'm an artist Okay.

Speaker 3:

Like I said, it's just something I do just just for fun, so I got a new song right now I'm dropping with jim jones, do you really?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I got a song with jim jones. Yeah, I lived in the east coast for a while, so yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I got a song with jim jones.

Speaker 2:

we did it in new york, uh like two weeks ago, so I'm I'm laying it goes, uh. It comes out on august 16th on all platforms Maz Viez featuring Jim Jones. Take all bets, so yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's fire man, yeah, how you connect with him. Jim is a beast man, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Jim is a beast man. I've been a fan honestly, I've been a fan of Dipset since whatever you know, since young, and I was really a huge fan of Cameron at first. Cam's here, right, yeah, fan of Cameron at first. Cam's here right, yeah, cam's here. But I'm not going to lie over the years I think Jim got better than Cam Rapping-wise, rapping-wise. So I just thought, honestly, that's a tough debate.

Speaker 3:

Yeah man, that's a tough debate.

Speaker 2:

I've just been a big fan of them. We linked up my boy Mike. He pretty much got me in the studio with Heat, heat makers, I'm pretty sure you know. Yeah, and Jim was there that night and we talked. They already knew who I was. They, you know, he, the guys like, oh, he's sports band guy, you know whatever. So he knew I was. So we chopped it up. I told him yeah, we're gonna do a song tomorrow. We did a song. The race is history, that's what's up?

Speaker 2:

we're shooting the video out there in New York. I shot half of the video out here. Then I'm shooting another half in Harlem. We're gonna shoot it by like this week. Man, I was just in New York. I absolutely love New York we just took my kids to the Brooklyn Museum and did Alicia Keys and their museum with Swiss Beats.

Speaker 1:

What part of New York so we stayed in Manhattan, but we went all around Brooklyn where are you from? Oh no no, no, I'm originally from Chicago, but I lived in New York.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love New York too. It's a vibe, it's a straight up.

Speaker 3:

You got a real culture over there. I feel like every time you go out, you feel it, you feel it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, as soon as you get there you damn near feel like you as soon as you get there it's just like you're literally supposed to do something. It keeps your energy up and you realize?

Speaker 1:

that's why everybody got to have 20 jobs when they live there.

Speaker 2:

I love it. It's beautiful, it's a wonderful city. I love it 100%. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about branding a little bit. Right, you built an amazing brand. Appreciate that Right YouTube. Now You're building up your YouTube noticed you've organically built where you're doing the day in the life, which a lot of people really like, right? What's your perspective on that, on the new influencer and what you should show and what you should not show?

Speaker 2:

I feel like it just depends on what you branding. It just really depends on what you branding. I feel like, honestly, like I mean you just got to to know what your brand is. And I mean I feel like, if you're artists, I feel like you have no limits. I feel like I feel you can't have no limits. You can't be scared to show this. You can't be scared, you just gotta go all out. Honestly, you can't have. If you're like nervous, don't be an influencer. You know, I'm saying that's my, that's my advice. If you, if you're really serious about being a influencer, you can't have no filter. You just got to do what you want to do.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, those are the ones who pop Like if you're like nervous, I'm scared, or this man.

Speaker 2:

you just got to go all out and just be prepared and simple, that's all you got to do.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the most successful ones, like you said, make their own lane right, yeah, that's what makes people intrigued about it.

Speaker 2:

Like you can't just be following. You know what I'm saying. You can buy fake followers.

Speaker 1:

I love you talking about this.

Speaker 2:

But you can't buy a following, bro. You know what I'm saying. Even with fake followers, people are going to know when you post that these aren't real. You can't buy engagement, bro. So it's like, honestly, you just got to organically build it, you just got to be you and whoever going to like it like it, whoever ain't, you know you got to enjoy the haters. Enjoy the positive comments and you love the negatives too. Enjoy.

Speaker 1:

You don't know how much I'm happy you just said that right now because we my wife and we were just talking about that We've been building this for six years, right 2018. And that was something we were looking at. We've never bought, never did that because people are going to feel your energy, yeah, they're going to feel that you're real and it's so funny like chris originally from detroit, I'm originally from chicago and that was one of the biggest things is like, how do we build the culture and not build the culture? Show the culture, yeah, of vegas, you know, organically and um, and if we did that, we're not fake people. So we gotta show like the real right and people could see that. So I'm happy you said that, man, man because, people know.

Speaker 1:

I mean, they see the engagement, they see what's real, yeah, so where do you think it, where do you think it goes, man? Because Instagram is starting to lose a lot of its algorithms. I don't know. I keep hearing a lot of different stuff, man.

Speaker 2:

I hear a lot, my girl says a lot, she sees like she'll tell me like Instagram is going to be going in for me anyway, like. So I guess like TikTok is the new TikTok's the one.

Speaker 3:

That's what everybody's talking about now they say TikTok is the one.

Speaker 2:

Okay, they say it's easier to go viral now which I'm not going to lie. I just posted a video. I did a video. It got like my highest view. It got like 6 million views on there and it I literally just posted like a little vlog of my day in the life from YouTube. It did like 170,000, like one day.

Speaker 3:

So TikTok me neither. I don't know how it works, but it works it works.

Speaker 2:

Tiktok is good, so yeah.

Speaker 3:

They say that's going to cancel right. Well, there's a possibility, because the government is trying to ban it, but they're going to sell it to somebody else like Microsoft.

Speaker 1:

But I don't think TikTok is going nowhere. Yeah, they're going to sell it to somebody else, like a Microsoft, but I don't think TikTok is going nowhere. Yeah, tiktok ain't going nowhere. I don't think it is. It's too. I mean people music-wise right.

Speaker 2:

I mean the people getting paid off music just for coming out with a whatever dance or whatever it is. Yeah, the TikTok dance.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's big People's not going to probably buy TikTok.

Speaker 2:

Right, right so.

Speaker 1:

Instagram is losing some of it, doesn't have the same pop as what was, and if, in the reason why I say that is if you see the ceo of instagram coming on to talk about it, there's obviously got to be a problem, right? Because he's doing videos of hey, you should try this, you should try that. So obviously people have complained a lot about it, or why would you be on your?

Speaker 2:

instagram talking about it, right, so it's got to be a problem, yeah you know, but I don't know I like it.

Speaker 3:

I like it because it's easy enough. He likes Facebook. I'm on Facebook. I'm a news guy. I can't stand Facebook. I'm on some. I read my news articles it took me a minute.

Speaker 2:

I think I had everything except my Facebook for a long time I got a.

Speaker 1:

Facebook now, but yeah so I was going to ask you, just piggybacking about Mike with the Mozzie pics, like Do you consult with them, like face-to-face or calls, or how do you consult with them? Is it more just getting the pics?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they just sign up and I get them the pics. If they need anything, I have a customer support team. Okay, you have a what, I'm sorry, a customer support team, okay, okay. So yeah, they need, like any, I guess, further help or information, that's what I was getting at.

Speaker 1:

How can you spread your time?

Speaker 2:

They only really need help when they're losing. When they're winning, nobody needs to talk.

Speaker 3:

That's why I like winning.

Speaker 2:

Winning just makes everything easier when you're winning. Nobody got questions, nobody asking you nothing. The comments are coming in great, everything is just they're telling their friends.

Speaker 3:

Oh my God, Everybody's energy is up. Everybody's energy is up.

Speaker 2:

Usually people want to talk and say something when you lose it so long as you, yeah. So yeah, usually yeah, but I have a coach support team who helps me out, um, you know. So everything is pretty much simple. I, you know I got my. You know I'm on wapcom and they're pretty much day. That's how you, you know, view my plays and you sign up there and once you sign up, you just follow instructions and you get get in my chat simple yeah.

Speaker 1:

So what would you say to somebody like, just simple, you know they wanted they coming to Vegas this weekend, right? What would you suggest to them to do if they wanted to spend, you know, let's say, a thousand dollars? I want to try to come up like everybody wants to do when they come to Vegas. What would you share with them? Just one simple tip, just follow me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, pretty much simple. Just follow me and. I'll get you right, I mean honestly. I have people who just come to Vegas just to gamble, just in particular.

Speaker 3:

Simple, just to sports bet with me.

Speaker 2:

So they come to Vegas, they just to sports bet with me and yeah, that's pretty much the only reason they come.

Speaker 1:

So where do you see the future of Vegas going, man? You enjoying it out here. You like the growth and you like what's happening yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2:

I like it a lot. I'm honestly, man, I'm looking like, I'm looking just to have a like, just probably like I love Vegas. I always have a space here, but I don't know, I think I want to move to New York just to, yeah, man, some spots, okay, I don't want, like a penthouse somewhere there, but, uh, I like vegas. Man, vegas is cool. I've been out here for so long, though how long you been here? 17 now, yeah, but this is.

Speaker 1:

This is like home for me now I hated it. When I first moved for real, I didn't like it at all. It's cool. It's cool, I like it, I love it.

Speaker 2:

I like vegas, though man. Vegas is uh, I mean. It's one thing about vegas is. One thing I do love about vegas is a growing city. It's always some new coming. It's a money city. It's the only city you really can come and maybe have 20 bucks in your pocket and leave out with 1,000. It's the only city you can do that. I like it. It's a pretty much safe city. I agree. Yeah, I like Vegas. It's a clean city.

Speaker 3:

It's very clean.

Speaker 2:

It's a clean city and the casinos are clean. They know how to treat you in Vegas. For the most part, Vegas is a good city. It's a good city. I love Vegas.

Speaker 1:

Let's see, Wait until you go to New York and give me that cold man. That's why I'm on the West Coast. I don't mind the cold you don't.

Speaker 2:

No, I love the cold too.

Speaker 1:

See, I'm from Chicago and I grew up in Atlanta.

Speaker 2:

So I'm used to all like four seasons back Okay, I could deal with the cold, just throw, you know, layer up. You got to know how to deal with the cold.

Speaker 1:

Some people like girls, don't know how to deal with the cold, maybe because we shoveled and dealt with it. Yeah, the shovel fine you gotta remember man like and I'll just share, just go rabbit hole real quick is when you had to deal with shoveling and waking up. You know chicago is different and new england.

Speaker 2:

I think that's colder than new york.

Speaker 1:

Well, chicago is colder but new england gets more snow like that boston, new hampshire, maine.

Speaker 2:

I've been in chicago when it was like I went out there it was probably three, four, four years ago and I went out there was it was probably three, four years ago and I went out there it was literally the winter and it was literally like windy. That's a whole different type of cold.

Speaker 1:

It was windy. And Michigan too. Michigan's horrible Negative 13, negative 10. Yeah it was cold.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was cold. Yeah yeah, shoveling snow in negative 10-degree weather is not a good experience.

Speaker 2:

Every one of them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like the the networking in vegas. That's the biggest piece that I'm seeing. Man is, networking is amazing. Here, I think the networking is good.

Speaker 2:

I mean honestly, I think it need more like I think it need more like it need more.

Speaker 2:

Like when I go all right, it's like this when I go to new york, when I go to miami and place like that, literally, bro, it's so much content being created. Like I went to miami, boom, I went to, I'm going to the jeweler, boom, hey, this is, if the watch guy and he's he's recording me, I walk out. Another guy's recording me. Later I did three different people social media platforms when I got out of and when I was in Miami, boom, then I go to New York, boom, I got, you got this person's jewelers, you got these. I'm doing so many different people and I'm I'm doing so many different platforms. Vegas needs that. Like, literally, you can walk to Vegas and you don't get no content.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Vegas need more. Like content creators and like pretty people that like are doing it Cause there's so much about Vegas people don't know about man. And like people just think Vegas is a strip, like you tell people. Like people are so stupid. Like you'll tell people like I live in Vegas.

Speaker 3:

Y'all got grocery stores there Like bro yeah, bro yeah like people are that stupid though, but it you know.

Speaker 2:

but it's just like if you don a content creator, start creating some content. In Vegas, man Do something. Man Show the strip Show something. Man. We need more content creators. But I think the networking is cool, but it need more social media content. I see a few, though I see a few people like they'll show the different things, and I love it.

Speaker 3:

I like content creators, man, you see it more about restaurants and stuff.

Speaker 2:

I see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Not so much nothing else, Like really it's just restaurants or gambling yeah, gambling yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, you think it's because, like people like, for example, we're so close to Hollywood in LA, right where TMZ and you got everybody in your face, where it's feel like when you come to Vegas, people can relax a little bit different.

Speaker 3:

They don't want to share their experience as much.

Speaker 1:

That might be true. That might be true.

Speaker 3:

Getting in trouble. I think that should be the reason why it should be more.

Speaker 2:

Honestly you're going to catch. In LA and different places, people are going to be on their P's and Q's, true, but when they come to Vegas, man, bro, everybody is open and, bro, you'll see everybody.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I think, it should be more.

Speaker 2:

Vegas needs more content creators. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like that perspective, man, even breaking down the branding and everything For business advice, right, like I know, or maybe not so much business advice, man. So what would you share for somebody that maybe because you work for yourself, correct what would you share for them of what they should do if they want to go work for for themselves? What's one tip or nugget for them, um, that they might be thinking about, you know, jumping into that lane I think, man, if you want to work for yourself, pretty much, just do it.

Speaker 2:

Don't ask nobody for no advice, just do it, man, don't ask somebody. Do you think this is gonna work? Don't ask about nothing, just do it. Don't even ask your mom or nothing. Just go do it and at the end of the day, if it work, it work. If it don't, it don't. Yeah, simple. Don't ask nobody, nothing, just do it like, study it and just go full throttle. Simple, like, because you ask people, you know, uh, you know their advice, good luck. So, yeah, just do it. Simple, man, just do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's real, yeah okay, we always talk about restaurants, man in vegas. Man, where are you eating at what's one gym? Because I really want to know, because you spend a lot of money, man man this, yeah, man, this is one thing about Vegas too. They got amazing food, they got amazing food and I'm a big foodie. That's why I want to know when are you eating at, whether it's high end or hole in the wall, I'll give you a few spots.

Speaker 2:

I'll give you a few spots. I like, if Carbone at Aria.

Speaker 1:

Carbone is fire.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to my guy over there. They take care of me over there every time, that's an Aria I like. Carbone yeah, that's an Aria I like. If you want to go to a steakhouse, you want to get that good feel. You want to feel like you may be, like you want to say you're into mobsters and you're like John.

Speaker 1:

Gotti go to Golden Steer Shout out to I love it. I gotta check that one out. Yeah great food.

Speaker 2:

I like Golden Steer, what else I like, I like. If you wanna go to like a good sushi spot, I'm gonna give you a good sushi spot in Vegas. If you wanna go to a good go to Sushi Fever yeah, this dude Sushi Fever is my favorite sushi spot on Sahara. I get the OMG roll.

Speaker 1:

That's hilarious okay, we, we in.

Speaker 2:

That's three solid ones. I think we just went there today.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sushi feed was fire, so I hated sushi, my wife I hated sushi too, because stan sushi and I'm my friend and I thought that's crazy. I hated sushi and my wife and shout out to my guy, alan kirkwood, that that brought me to sushi feed. We put us on to that and that's one of my favorite spots.

Speaker 2:

I gotta check that out. And nobody ever brought that up, so that's great. So we had to show them some love, man, yeah, so Golden Steer you said Carbone.

Speaker 2:

Sushi Fever yeah, that's. Yeah, I like, oh, yeah, those. Yeah, if you want some sushi there and yeah, okay, that's on, man, we forgot to ask you at all. Um, nothing, man. If you follow me on instagram at mazzy vs mazi, mazi vs, follow me on tiktok, mazi vs. Um, I got a new song coming with jim jones. Take all bets it's dropping august 16th on all platforms. We're shooting a video that's gonna be an absolute banger. Um, shout out to my guys at vegas circle appreciate, yeah, man, we here, man, mazzy pics. Appreciate it, man?

Speaker 1:

thanks for the love man, thanks for sitting down with us and shout out to my guys at Vegas Circle Appreciate you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, we here, man, my Aussie picks. Appreciate it. Man, thanks for the love.

Speaker 1:

Man, thanks for sitting down with us and shout out to G6 for connecting us. Shout out to my guy, g6, man, yes sir, and check us out at VegasCirclecom.

Speaker 2:

Man Appreciate you man.

Speaker 3:

My man.

Speaker 1:

That's good man.