Live @ Beyond The Valley First Nation’s Yarn With Kee’ahn Bindol

In today's “pinch me moment” episode, Caroline has a special yarn with the incredibly talented singer, songwriter and performer, Kee’ahn Bindol at the 2023 Beyond The Valley Festival at Barunah Plains an, an ancient and natural amphitheater, on Waddawurrung Country.

Kee’ahn is a proud Yalanji, Jirrbal, Badu Islander  who in 2019 ventured from their home town in North Queensland, to pursue a dream in the Naarm. In 2020, Kee’ahn released the debut single ‘Better Things’. That year, Kee’ahn was awarded the Archie Roach Foundation Award at the 2020 National Indigenous Music Awards later winning the Archie Roach Foundation Award at the Music Victoria Awards.

In this end of year episode, they unpack the inspiration behind Kee’ahn's new dance tracks, ‘Catch the Night’ and ‘Sunsets’ and the profound impact music has had on her life.They explore the art of musical storytelling, examining its role in raising social consciousness and helping to instigate social change. Caroline explains the deeply sophisticated concept of Aboriginal Songlines, ancient GPS pathways utilised for sharing knowledge, trade roots, and stories.  

The chat concludes with Caroline, Kee’ahn and audience members 2024 lessons and personal reflections. Yarns about relationships, grief, the referendum, and the intentionality of cultivating meaningful connections in a complex world, along with the need to embrace emotions, family, kin and culture and spaces like BTV to ‘be’ in community. 

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We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past and present. And our future young generations.

Language Warning: this episode contains explicit language. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:00

This podcast is brought to you by On Track Studio. Welcome to Yarning Up, the podcast that showcases First Nations stories and conversations to help us learn and unlearn Australia's history to work towards a better future. I'm your host, Proud Barbara Woman and founder of Black Waddle Coaching and Consulting, Caroline Cal. We acknowledge the Rurundari people and elders where this podcast is taped, but we also acknowledge the lands that you are listening in from today. It always was and always will be unseated aboriginal and tourist Red Islander land. Welcome back, you deadly souls, to season four of Yarning Up. Your presence here fills my heart with so much pride and even more gratitude. It truly means the absolute world to me. Back in 2021, when we embarked on this journey, we had no idea what lied ahead. But I had a vision to amplify the voices, the truths, and the stories of black people and their families, to carve out our own table, to increase representation in the media, to amplify the stories that are too often untold or watered down or totally fabricated for the mainstream white gays. I wanted to have deadly yarns with deadly people to show us in our joy, our anger, our resilience, our wisdom, our passion, and our love for family and community. Recently, I have been turning to bell hooks a lot. In fact, I have most of my life. A profound writer and thinker, and someone who has always provided guidance in navigating the horrors of the colony. And she once said that community is a place where the connections felt in our hearts make themselves known in the bonds between people, and where the tuggings and pullings of these bonds keep opening our hearts. This show has beautifully woven together a community, not just of listeners, but of social justice warriors, of deep thinkers and feelers and lovers. And it's a space for those who are eager to learn from the oldest culture in the world to get to foster these connections and these communities that go well beyond the airwaves. With all that said, let's get ready to dive into another season of inspiration, of connection, and candid and heartfelt yarns with beautiful black fellas right across this country of so-called Australia. We are starting this season with a live taping. Can you believe it? A live taping at Beyond the Valley, which was held on Waterong Lands on the 31st of December 2023. I had the absolute joy and privilege to reflect on the year that was with the incredibly talented singer, songwriter, and performer Kian Bindle. I want to say a big shout out to the crew at Untitled Group who organized this festival Beyond the Valley with 35,000 patrons every single year. I want to say thank you for them for inviting us to be a part of this phenomenal podcast tent. And lastly, I just want to say thank you to you fellas once again for being a part of this journey. And I can't wait for this incredible season that lies ahead.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

I read online that indigenous people, they don't even want it. 80% of us do.

SPEAKER_08 4:25

We need a voice, we need that structural change. A victory for yes would indeed make history.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

The ballot paper doesn't begin to capture the complexity of this conversation.

SPEAKER_08 4:36

That's what the voice is. An advisory committee. A voice coming from the people, and it will be decided by the people.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Breaking news tonight the referendum for the voice to parliament has been defeated.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

There will be a period of grief, and I think the whole nation should be grieving a lost opportunity here.

SPEAKER_05 5:12

Hello, how are you new, motherfuckers? This is wild. Good morning, good morning, hello. Welcome. This is exciting. How's everyone feeling? Yeah? Do we know maybe on the count of three? We'll say how we're all feeling. One, two, three. Yay! Love it, love it. Well, this is so crazy. I I started this show yarning up in my bedroom like two years ago in the middle of like a mad existential crisis. And I had a vision to just bring mob and mob stories to non-Aboriginal people, to learn, to laugh, to uh connect with our knowledges and storages. So to be here today is really, really exciting. And I'm so excited to get to yarn with Sissy Kian.

SPEAKER_06 6:14

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_05 6:15

Yeah, I'm so um so grateful. Kian is an extremely talented musician, songwriter, performer. And yeah, I'm just so grateful that you're here today to have a bit of a yarn.

SPEAKER_07 6:31

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 6:31

Well, it's day four of the festival, and it's the end of the year, and I wanted to just start with doing a bit of a mindfulness moment and sort of grounding us here on country. And I think it's not until we come to places like Beyond the Valley that we realize how important land is and how important togetherness and coming together for music. And so, yeah, I want to do a bit of a mindful moment if that's okay for all of us. So, maybe where you're see seated, or if you're standing, if you want to just take a moment and put your feet in country, maybe give a little shake, just kind of open yourself up to being held in this moment. And I want to just begin by acknowledging that we gather today in unity as a community on sacred, stolen, and unceded Aboriginal lands. Together, let us honor and recognize the sacredness of this place. This is an old amphitheater. This is where mob used to congregate and welcome and come together just like this over thousands of years. This is home to the Wadarong peoples and their neighbors, the Gundijamara mobs, and I want to acknowledge them. And I also want to acknowledge all owners of country. I want to acknowledge their stories, their songs, their customs, their laws, all of which have existed long before what we now call governments. Every day, as black fellas, we honor our old people, our ancestors, our families, our creators, and our knowledge keepers and teachers, our elders, past and present. I want to acknowledge them, their laughter, their spirit, and their hard-fought legacies. I also want to acknowledge our young people. We see you forging your own paths and you know, taking up the good fight and the good rest in new and unprecedented ways. So I want to acknowledge you. I also want to acknowledge every single ally here and the six million of you who voted yes to change the fucking story in this country. We we thank you for walking with us and for elevating us and for fighting the good fight. I just want to say thank you and acknowledge all of those wonderful people. And yeah, on a ya with you, Kia.

SPEAKER_07 9:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:16

Last year you were on the bill, you performed here. Yeah, and this year you're a festival goer. So, any festival highlights this year so far?

SPEAKER_06 9:30

Oh, um so many. Hey, it's really nice just being on the other side of it. Like our first experience last year, like running around, really keen. First, like big kind of yeah, music festival that we got to play, and then this year coming with my friend Danyasi and being a part of this, like just being a punter, going to you know, um Taylor Lane last night, and yeah, seeing the like huge crowds of people just run after Dom Dollar, like it was just a spectacle to be a part of, and yeah, it's been fun. Yeah, sweet. Yeah, today I'm keen to see um I think Pink Matter are playing today. Um, yeah, Panya was amazing yesterday. It's it's a great lineup, like really diverse. And Miss Kanina was the day before. Did anyone see Miss Kanina? Yeah, how was she? Yeah, yeah, so good. We missed, unfortunately, but love her.

SPEAKER_05 10:30

Yeah, she's an amazing thing, say, and like you say, it's just such a diverse crowd and diverse lineup of talent. And um, yeah, 35,000 people, 35,000 besties up in the house. So, as we do on our show, Yarning Up, our show is really, as I say, all about black stories and trying to tell them on our terms. I think we're in a really weird time where we're looking at truth telling and you know, connecting with people and who they are, you know, not what they do, but what's going on like in here. So I want to start with sis by asking, um, you know, who's your mob and where did you grow up? And a little bit about yeah, your personal story.

SPEAKER_06 11:13

Yeah, so Yuri Alara, Nekuburi, Kian, Gayu, Gugu Yalanji, Juddbull, Butterleg, Bomber, Nayu, um, Narum, Waranjari, Wei Burang, Um Big Burundai. I said in Yalanji that my name's Kian. I'm a proud Yalanji, Jubbal, and Torresha Alanda from North Queensland. Um, I grew up on Bindal Wag Rukba country called Townsville in North Queensland, and I also said that I live on um Nam, which is Warangeri Weiworang in Bunwarang country. Yeah, and I grew up in Townsville, just came back from there before we came to the festival. Um, and it was really beautiful, just super tropical home, just caught up with lots of family. I think that's why when I came to the festival, I was like, yeah, it'll be hot, it'll be warm, and then fucking Victorian weather, just yeah, freezing. Um, but trying to still like look tropical, even though I'm freezing. Yeah. I grew up in Townsville. How about you, sis? Where'd you grow up? Me. Where are you from?

SPEAKER_05 12:21

So my family's from Innesfow, far north Queensland. We're rainforest people. But um, yeah, we've moved down here. Mum came down in the 70s. Mum, we got one minus six, they're stolen gen, so my mum was taken and sort of, yeah, call Burundry land home, which is really beautiful. Um, but yeah, we go back on country every opportunity we get. My family, um, they got native title up there, they got they fought for 30 years, and they got Lamb back, Lamb back, and yeah, now they're living on country, they're living on the land, they're just doing their thing, farming, setting up, you know, food and communities and ways for our family to return back to that place, kind of like this, you know, where we all come in and we've got shipping containers, and yeah, it's pretty dope to go back and kind of soak it up and get out of the rat raise feeling, you know, of the Western world. So, yeah, Murray's to Murrays, look out. Yeah, so Kiany is a phenomenal artist. Your song Better Things that was um released in the pandemic. Me and my neighbors loved it. We're singing it up real loud. But um, yeah, you've you've kind of released two new dancey, vibey, sway tracks. Uh, catch the night. And sunset. I'm sure some of people here have been catching the night to sunset. If I was here, I would have been catching the night to sunset too. Send no shame. But um, yeah, I wanna I wanna ask you sis. Were was there any like specific events or experiences that was happening in your life that really influenced the change in your music and yeah, this kind of new new way of expressing yourself?

SPEAKER_06 14:48

Honestly, coming out of lockdowns, just wanted to yeah, be back out there in yeah, at music festivals, at gigs, just like having a good time, making music with friends. Um, and just thought, you know, I have this amazing opportunity to work with um a producer I love, Alice Ivey, who made Sunsets and Catch the Night. So shout out to her. Um, and yeah, just told her like I want something fun, something that I I can perform at, you know, Beyond the Valley, which we did last year, those two songs we debuted there. I think that was the main motivation. Um, sunsets was kind of about missing home, North Queensland, tropical weather, just like slowing down, like you said, like feeling like you can step out of the rat race a little bit and you know appreciate country, and then catch the night was kind of about yeah, being in the moment and finding joy. And so I think that was the main motivation with the change in music with my last two singles. Um, but still always love soul. I feel like that's always gonna be a big influence, just like hits, you know, like comes from my wawoo, from spirit, from love, and yeah, being able to work with Alice Ivy just you know married those two things together so well.

SPEAKER_05 16:10

Yeah, it's so true. It really is like a beautiful combination, and I think it's so nice, like as people or as artists, that we don't have to be defined by one thing. Like we're not this or we're not that, and we can be a bit of everything and stay true to ourselves. So, yeah, I'm loving the new tracks. Well, look, I want to say um a huge part of our show at Yarning Up is trying to make Aboriginal knowledge accessible for people. I think sometimes think people think about Aboriginal people or our knowledge as like the Loch Ness monster or something so mystical and you know far-fetched. But the the sophistication and the engineering that our mob even blows my mind out. I'm sure it blows your mind too. We'll be back, you mob, right after this short break. But I wanted to just share a little yarn that I want to, yeah, which I encourage you to maybe take back to your camp or take back to your families or take back to your communities. Um, and I wanted to share a bit about Aboriginal song lines. I was thinking about sharing that with the mob. It's such a beautiful thing. So for 80,000 years, our mob have been using music as ways to communicate, to heal, to share. And since colonization, we've been using it as a way to elevate political messages. Literally, as black fellows, we celebrated and commemorated everything with song, dance, and philosophy. Whether it was a birth, whether it was a death, whether it was a passing of people coming through, you know, music has been a way that we really stop and um acknowledge that. And song lines are essentially this huge library of information. Picture like a Wi-Fi system that we all use our phones with, but in Australia we have what's called these ancient tracks that kind of span from the north to the south to the east to the west. And essentially what elders or tribesmen used to do is in order to recall or memorize information, they would make a song out of it. So they would look around and say, We're in the blue tan with the yellow blur, and kind of take in all this information through a song. And they would sing on where to hunt, where to gather, what roads to take. And they would pass that song down as a way to pass on the message so that you were able to pass on that sort of ancient knowledge through a trade route. And it's sort of those songs that they would use to share really important knowledges. Most of our highways and major roads are built on the back of song lines, uh, which is pretty crazy. So, like the famous road across the Nullabor from the Perth to Adelaide is a song line. The road between the Kimberleys and the Darwin is on the back of a song line. And the most, I guess the most famously known story of a song line is the story of the Wurangu Seven Sisters. What it is, it's it's like this really chaotic love story where Orion's belt was tracking these seven bright sisters in the sky. And Watindiru, the snake, was kind of chasing these seven sisters. He was like so in love with them. Probably like red flag unhinged behavior nowadays, but back then it was really, you know, a beautiful thing. And the and the story goes, yeah, the Watiniru snake traveled from the literally from the east to the west and the west and back again. And they say that most of our song lines actually travel through Ularu and then back out. And that's why Uluru has just got so much significance. And so, yeah, I wanted to share that with you because maybe like it kind of it sort of makes me think personally about what information I would be choosing to pass down. Like what songs would I be singing these days? And so, with all of that in mind, sis, I wanted to ask you about, you know, how do you think the storytelling aspect of music contributes to yeah, raising awareness? And particularly now when we're in like a revolution and we're talking about the liberation and the world is kind of waking up to a lot of colonial ills. You know, how how important is music to sort of elevate and share these stories?

SPEAKER_06 21:01

Yeah, I mean, it's vital and it's been a you know tool for change since the beginning, telling our stories for our future generations, like um building momentum for change. I think you know, a lot of music it comes from black music, which was used for protest, for activism, for liberation. So now I feel like there's a kind of sense of duty to you know carry your values and your hopes for future generations with your art, at least for me. Yeah, I think it was really special this year releasing a song with Sis Emma Donovan, who's proud Nunar, Yamaju, Gumbangir, Aboriginal Woman. Um, we wrote a song for Uncle Archie Roach and his foundation, bless Uncle. And yeah, we got together, it was like around Jan 26th, talking about, I guess. Like activists and elders that inspired us, and how we wanted to make a song that honored them and sent love to them, and also like yeah, imagining like carrying that torch forward for like her daughters and future generations in our communities to do the same like our elders have done for us. So we wrote Take No More and we re we released it under um Uncle Archie's foundation. And then yeah, just seeing how it's like moved with black fellows and with allies and with community, like how it's yeah, motivated or inspired people. And yeah, we even got to sing it at ummy and my yeah, my cousin and her friend, um, a Dark Aboriginal woman. We got to stand up and sing it for the Palestine rally, and yeah, I think music's just vital to to enact change, and it has always done that.

SPEAKER_05 22:58

I think like every backdrop of every major point in history with within a context of a revolution or a liberation does have like that really important music to transcend the masses. Hey. Like I think about like even the song Treaty, you know, by Yothi Hindu, which is like the first song ever in language, you know, how important that was. You know, 1991 and 30 years later was still like. I remember even being a kid, it's like treaty, and now it's like, you know, now I'm like, oh, I finally understand what these things mean, you know. And even yet, Archie wrote, as you say, bless um resting in the dreaming, but the song took the children away, you know, all of these really important songs, and even now, like artists like Barker and Nuki and yourself, and you know, everyone sort of spreading the message. My Uncle PJ Roses, he said to me, He's a he's a black stage manager. He started uh working on it. You know, Uncle PJ? Everyone knows Uncle PJ. He's always got a dart in one hand and a red wine in the other, and he's always, you know, he's just the life of the party. And he's like, Oh, if you go up on this festival thing, can you skype me up and give me a G up? I said, All right. But um, yeah, he was sort of saying the other day, he was at our house, he was like, How good it is that even it is important to elevate those political messages, but having young black artists who are just singing for the joy and the love of music as well, you know, having a bit of a bit of both.

SPEAKER_06 24:28

That's it, yeah. I need that. Yeah, black joy is still resistance, and don't have to always be, you know, outspoken like that. It can just be being in spaces, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:42

Yeah, so true. Black joy, black love, they're the antidote. That's the that's the key to all of this, isn't it? I wanted to ask you, this year has been like for black fellas anyway, a fucking dumpster fire of the year. It's been probably one of the hardest times. But I think for all of us as people and societies, we're all just kind of like questioning, you know, what what's it all mean? And how do we have spaces where we can come together like this and and connect and to to be? But I know for a lot of us, um, yeah, we're feeling, I guess, the collective grief and the collective trauma, and um, and this is why we need joy and places like this to just fucking be, you know, just be. I wanted to maybe ask you and throw it out to anyone in the crowd if they're feeling up for it, feeling awake. You know, what what do you think this year has taught you? What has it taught you, and what are you wanting to cultivate more of next year? Like, what are you willing to let go of and what do you want more of next year?

SPEAKER_06 25:46

Yeah, I think this year kind of taught me to really yeah, just be more grounded in the moment, especially with like family and friends, because it just goes so quickly, you know, life is so short. I think that was a main thing, especially like with the referendum and like you said, dumpster fire of a year, like really sitting with those like yeah, loving moments, even through the grief, just being there with community, just like you know, being centered. I think that was like what I kind of really took away from it and what I'll carry next year. Yeah, what about uses?

SPEAKER_05 26:28

Yeah, I feel the same. I feel like um just yeah, like you say, sitting in it and processing it all. Um, I think sometimes like the Western world demands us to be doing and like on and um constantly like striving. And I think that even this notion about having a new year's resolution for me, I'm like, I'm just trying to fucking process this year before I think about it a little bit. And I don't know, I feel like I don't really have any wise end of year, live, laugh, love, like you know, you epiphanies. I just feel really proud that we've just survived, like all of us here, like round of applause. Like, we've all survived. The last three years have been a total mind fuck. And um I think a lot of us have just it not just black followers, all of us are really redefining what it means to live happy and healthy lives together, you know. We're all on this journey, so I know I'm just trying to process too, trying to sit in it, um, trying to be okay with it, and just trying to like pat myself on the back for getting through.

SPEAKER_07 27:36

Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_05 27:38

Yeah, yeah. What about you, Mob? Anyone in the crowd? Any lessons, any feels? Yeah, I got some money over there.

SPEAKER_04 27:47

I think like similar to what you guys are talking about, about um there's so much responsibility placed on mob to do and to act and to take action on things, but centering that onto something specific that you want is really hard. But I've worked out that wherever you invest that passion and that love, it actually does take action and it works and it makes a difference. But if you just work out what is the passion and what you love, that it's easier to do.

SPEAKER_05 28:21

Anyone else?

SPEAKER_02 28:22

I think like uh we've been talking about this back in the counts as well, but like reflecting on the year, and I think like a big thing for me to reflect on this year is like standing firm in your values and what you believe in. I think if the referendum, the ongoing genocide in Gaza has shown anything, it's like this is the time for you to take a stand or to stand firm in your belief or whatever it is. And another thing that's like outside of sort of big, big, big things is like actually to like hold your loved ones close. I think uh a lot of people have experienced grief this year, but if you keep your family close, if you keep rooted in your culture, it helps you you know to stand strong and stand firm and not to do it by yourself. So yeah, keep that in mind for next year.

SPEAKER_05 29:06

Yes, you should jump up, have a yard. Please drop that, Mike. You're so right. Yeah, I feel you on that, bro. Like, um, like it's all connected, you know, what we're seeing in the Middle East and Congo, Sudan, colonization, it's also deeply interrelated. But I also see that this is a deeply transformative time. And I don't know, maybe I've got rose-colored glasses, but I see a world where we return back to land, we're like living together, we're growing food together, we're sharing our time together, we're taking it back to the community, we're taking it back to the collectivity, we're going back to families, and this is just like this yeah, transformative time for us to go back to what we've always known, which is tribe, community, being cooperators, being helpers together. And yeah, like you say, holding on to that value is really important.

SPEAKER_06 30:02

I love that. So true, and that's what the land wants. Like it's calling us to do that. That's what black fellows have done, and indigenous people across the world. So yeah, it's a very transformative time, but definitely important time to, like Nyasi said, stand in your values, stand strong. So then collectively we all get there together and leave no one behind.

SPEAKER_05 30:25

Yeah. I think also, like with that in mind, I think this is kind of taught me too that you know, rest. We say like rest is resistance, or rest is just like fucking required. And with any like social movement or you know, any difficult period like the last few years, like these things have its own consciousness, its own entities, and we have to learn to the revolution will require rest and endurance, and so we have to find new ways to look after self. If all in order to nurture kin and community and other, we must find ways to nurture self. And we can't neglect ourselves in the process, even while all these you know atrocities are happening. We have to go back to finding new ways to look after ourselves, and places like this is like is that I feel they're extensions of that. They're communities coming together for joy, for laughter, for letting go of the mask or the idea you have to be something and just being, you know, who you are. Yeah, yeah. So next year I think is gonna be a transformative one for all of us, eh? Yeah, true, deadly, deadly, deadly. The other thing I think I learned this year is a little bit about like relationships. About I don't know if everyone here's experienced shifts in their lives with friends and relationships, but yeah, things have to be loving and reciprocal because we all need to come up, come, come together. It's got to be reciprocal.

SPEAKER_06 31:57

Yeah, and like what you were saying about rest is resistance. I feel like I've learned how like community, loved ones, friends, like in my ideal world, they're like, you know, there for you to rest and to you know self-care, but like community care. So yeah, I don't know, just what you were saying reminded me of that.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

Yeah, that's that like safe place for us to land to rego regroup. Yeah, and that's why we need to treasure those moments. Ay, anything anything you're looking forward to next year? Oh, um, where are you playing? Have you got any shows anywhere people can connect with you next year?

SPEAKER_06 32:41

Um trying to do a tour. I'm releasing my debut EP in like April. Just so excited. Hey, thank you. Um, yeah, doing like uh Brunswick Music Festival. So cute. Miss Kaninna's gonna be on the same stage that it's like all black fellows, um, yeah, for Brunswick Music Festival, so that'll be fun. Doing a show in Sydney for Sydney Fest in a couple of weeks, and then it's been beautiful. Like, I've got wedding bookings, which is new for me, which is really lovely. Like, yeah, I'd love to sing at some weddings.

SPEAKER_05 33:19

Hopefully, you can be playing at my wedding soon. No pressure, Michael. Um, that's exciting! How nice to sort of celebrate invading people's love. I love that.

SPEAKER_06 33:35

Yeah, exactly. And really trying to uh I don't know, plan each year to just spend a good chunk of time back home. Like I'd got to do it last year, and actually was on Barbroom Country, your country, um, with Uncle there. We went to Gooblede Island with all these kids and went snorkeling, and it was like a yeah, beautiful program. So, yeah, that's what I want next year to just be home. Like, yeah, love being down here and doing gigs and being on like amazing stuff like this, but like it's so important to go home and connect to his country and community and family.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Yeah, get that strength, absolutely. Um, and just to sort of like uncomplicate it all. It's also simple when you stop and you get to experience the power of community and land. It's it's really so simple. We just kind of complicate it all. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, beautiful. Well, that's kind of the end of my formal questions for you. I'm so grateful to sort of have a yarn with you today. You know, the end of a busy time. It's New Year's, the last day. And yeah, thank you, Mob, for coming. I want you to look after yourselves, look after this land, look after each other, say hello to your uncles and aunties for me. And um, yeah, mad respect. Have a good day.

SPEAKER_06 35:02

Thanks for coming. Happy New Year.

SPEAKER_05 35:06

Happy New Year. Thank you so much for listening, you mob. If you are vibing this season of Yarning Up, then please head over to Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast from to show us some love, rate, and review. Alternatively, you can get in contact and give us some feedback by visiting www dot carolinecal.com.