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Welcome to episode two of Season two of two spiritual mamas. I'm Shelby. And this is Alicia. And today we are redefining the phrase blind faith. We are excited to bring more awareness to the topic of faith in the divine through intuition and trust. So let us begin with, what does it mean to you, Alicia, for intuitive hits?

Like, how do you recognize. This in your body, in your mind, how do you walk through life being intuitive? Yeah. Faith in the divine really is through my intuition. So my intuition, my intuitive sense comes from a deep inner knowing that I have been creating a relationship with for 20 years, really since starting to work with Judy and finding soul coaching and finding.

Those teachers throughout my spiritual journey that reminded me and like helped me develop this sense of inner trust with the sensations, the, the little like, almost like deja vu, little intuitive hits that come as, as a sensation really. It's like my heart will feel it. I will have this in an inner gut knowing.

Sometimes I do feel it in my head that third eye visioning, but for me it's really more sensory and a knowingness. How about you? How do you feel intuition? I feel intuition in many, many ways. Definitely sensory, you know, like lately I've, my, I've falling in love, so my heart is this, like, it's almost like, oh, wa, Wawa it's just a, an. It's voluminous, is is funny way to say it, but it's expansive feeling in my heart. A lot of times if I'm talking about something, if my throat tighten ends up, I know that I'm, I gotta restructure what I'm saying. For me, most of the time if when I'm speaking to somebody or telling a story or thinking about something, my crown chakra, so the top of my head will just tingle and I feel it from a small tingle to this like wide open.

Whoa, I'm beaming to the planets right now. And then I also get imagery. So if I am in a quiet space, or even when I'm in a really full space, but I'm, I'm asking myself, can you share more with me about what I should be doing right now? I'll see. An actual story in, in my mind. So I I that I would equate with my third eye.

And it's really fascinating and I've had to learn to trust it though, cuz you, you get to this place where you're like, am I creating that? Cuz I, I just want that, am I making that up? You know? And, and I am a person who. I play with children a lot. I have a wonderful imagination, but I have learned to trust what's being shown to me and of course, also in my dreams.

So a lot of times I get some dream intuition and more, more often when I go to sleep asking for it. So that's a real good way to reward yourself with some. Can I have some intuition moments here?  some messages, please. I love that you started with love. Because, yes, . Yay for love. Congratulations. I'm so excited.

We'll talk about this many episodes, I'm sure, but , I want our listeners to feel into, how do you know that you're in. Like, ah, how do you trust that within yourself to, to experience and open and feel that, like that's your intuition. That's one of the aspects of your intuition. And we all have so many different gifts and different ways of feeling into this trust of the divine, but.

I feel guided and I think that's what we talk about so much is this guidance comes through as images or sensations or feelings. And when you lean into the divine of this and we pulled a card and we saw spider come in, and this medicine of the web of trust that I have woven through my work with Spirit has given me.

Buoyancy or this resiliency to lean in. Experience the, the flow and trust it as support from the other side. Exactly. I was just gonna say support, you know, and that's where you can say you're held by hidden hands, you know? Yes. We are not alone. We say that in our opening. We are not alone. We have a support, whether it be your angels, your guides, your Your higher self, however you look at it.

This could be God, it could be any type of, of higher power you're held. And so we're asking today to like redefine. We we're not blind in this. We're not blind. We don't have blind faith. We have an inner faith. We have this faith that you cannot see. So some people might call it blind, but we are redefining it as.

All these things, all this intuitiveness, all these guides, all these angels. So we are held the inner sight. Yes. The inner sight. Beautiful. Yes. And I love, yeah, a few of the things you just said about the blind faith and the hidden hands, tho those are those phrases that throughout eons, people have been trying to define what is on the other side, and how do we know that there is.

A spiritual existence beyond this physical dimension that we see and some of how we live. Like to tap into that is using our cards, our Oracle cards you wanted to bring up using the pendulum and how we tap into the wisdom and see beyond the veil and trust, not blindly, but what we can't. Yes. And before I do that, I, I wanna go back to what you actually said about love, because if we want to eliminate.

Anxieties, eliminate some of this fear-based thinking of, I don't know what's in front of me, this is a step I'm gonna take. That feels blind and terrifying cuz they are. And holy moly, I've been doing some of that recently and I'm like, I do not know the outcome, but what I trust into is my gut feeling.

And so I hope I'm not digressing here, but when you asked about what does it feel like to be in love, Let's just start with a sunflower or a puppy dog or a cat or something that you have no issues with. , so we're keeping it real clean here. Sit in front of the sunflower and be like, I really love the sunflower.

And then recognize how you feel in your body and learn to identify those conscious and subconscious hits. That say, Hey, this is what love feels like. This is what love feels like. So when you're then in a situation where you're questioning, is this what love should feel like? You're like, no, . It is not right now I am cute confused as all heck, and maybe I should step away from this relation too.

Because you're your own inner knowing is what keeps you from being. You are your source of light. You are your sovereign self, and you have to trust yourself to get to that sovereignty, and you have to start somewhere. So if you need to start trusting that sunflower and trusting the beauty of that sunflower, then that's where you begin.

Or maybe it's like your, your daughter or your best friend that you're like, we have no attachment. You are the chinet . And so, you know, so start there. And that can build your own intuitive understanding of, of the path you should be going toward. So yes, that's the knowing your, yes. Knowing, knowing your no, and knowing that.

Little subtle difference between the 100%. Yes. And moving towards something and when to step back inside and reassess and mm-hmm. , I kind of use my body like a pendulum.  actually, I lean into something within myself and feel into it. And, and like you said, when there's anxiety, it's usually based on. Worry about an outcome.

Yeah. And if we can tr, excuse me, if we can trust that everything is in divine order, and when we evoke divine order and ask for, and pray for, and, and announce to the universe what we feel ready for, that's trusting that we will be met and that the divine will bring us what we are ready for. Not necessarily what we want every time, but we're ready to receive what we're ready to work with, and it's not always.

Roses and puppies and the most beautiful experience every time. Right? It's, I mean, we're raising teenagers. It is not all roses . That's a whole nother episode. Yes, , but trusting that, okay. Especially for me right now, my teen is going through his growing pains. We are learning this age appropriate behavior is part of the divine flow like teenagers are supposed to have.

Pushing boundaries and resistance and grumpiness and all of these things that don't always feel good, but it's the information that we get from the inside that can help to trust and lean into this faith that it's all going to work out all is well. It will work out. They, they, and, and I can say on the other side of, you know, Alicia has a teenage boy.

I have two boys that are older. They are beautiful, beautiful souls, and they remember how to communicate now , and they've, they've learned to see things from higher perspectives. And so for those of you out there with teenagers, hang on. And reach out  and, and not so much with your intuitive in this, but like reach out to other parents that have gone through it cuz it's, it's, it's a challenge.

But I wanted to get back to you asking for what you want and receiving it in, in stages because, okay, here it comes. Gymnastics analogy. I was just talking with my team last night and reminding. That, let's just say it's a back handspring. Everybody wants their back handspring and like we went around the circle, what is the skill you want most this year back handspring?

And I said, okay, remember that We're gonna learn it in parts. We're going to start with the beginning. We're gonna start with the strength, we're gonna start with the flexibility, and then we're gonna put part one and part two together. But then we're gonna put part two and part three together. And then maybe in a few months we're gonna put all three parts together and you're gonna get that end result.

So if you can think. Something you've learned how to do physically, whether it was a new sport or cooking or art, and all the parts and stages you had to take. This is also what you can do with. Having blind faith is say, first I have to understand what it is I'm asking for, and in this I wanna share my story about my little triad here.

I was instructed a few years ago that I had to be more clear with what I was asking for in the universe. So when I was saying I need new staff. It's like, so the universe is gonna hear new staff and they're gonna send you a bunch of people and none of them are really gonna be resonant with what you want.

So you have to be clear and say, I need staff that have this type of vision, that have this type of heart, that have this type of maturity and have this type of communication skills and really be very, very clear. And once I did that, it's like magic I the people. Like literally, I, I don't do ads anymore. I just do them in my mind.

I say universe, I'm looking for a person and this is what I need. And it's like almost within two weeks. They call me, email me, or walk through my door. It's so cool. Awesome. And I'm like, I go, did you get my message ? And a lot of times they're like, no, what do you talk about? I'm like, well, you did, you know, you just consciously, you don't realize it.

But you know, I often say, what made you call me? Or what made you respond? Or what made you, you know, just reach out. And it's like, and then when we talk about it, it's. It's pretty in line. So I've been doing that. I did that with two staff members this year. I've been asking for a strong man for about eight years.

And I finally saw him, he walked through my door in the winter and I was like, I think this is my person. And I cultivated the relationship over and over and I just kept, you know, gave him little ideas like, it might be nice for you to work here. , he's a, he's a personal trainer and now he, he's starting with us coaching and he's got the kindest heart.

And it's the biggest muscles. So we're very excited. He could catch the girls, but it also, Alicia, it's happened in my love. I kept being devoted to myself, what do I need? And I had to dig a little bit deeper into myself to know exactly what I not only needed, but what did I deserve and what that self worth.

Again, that sovereignty to say I am an incredible human being and I deserve an incredible human being to match me. And I know a lot of incredible people. But I was looking for someone who, who's willing to do the work and for who's willing to have this faith and this intuitive sense. And I'm happy to say that I have found him.

And we've been friends for years. It's hilarious. We've been in each other's circle for years. It was just that moment of. Oh, it's you. And so there's my story of, of not always knowing what's gonna be revealed and being okay with that, and just saying, I'm gonna keep taking the steps forward to come closer and closer to what feels in alignment with my body and my heart and my mind, and, and trusting that the universe will provide.

And I'm here to say the universe has provided so yay. Yay. Spirit baker. Yay, . Yes. Yes. And you said the word alignment and that is where we wanted to talk about grace and finding balance and. Balance is this flow. It is not a stagnant, stationary like yoga pose where you are in this perfect sense of balance.

It's actually like walking is a great example of balance and trusting that your foot is going to land somewhere is a great. Like walking meditation, feeling the balance between one foot and the other foot, feeling the balance between work and play and family and love, and trusting that when you are in alignment with what your soul wants and needs, that the divine timing, that the grace, all of that.

Comes and blossoms at the right time. So you, you, like you said, you've known him for years and the timing blossomed when you were ready, when you were in your own alignment, when you were just in your own grace of knowing yourself and what was needed because you had a relationship that checked a lot of boxes and you know, there was a lot of kindness and support and love there.

And to be able to say this isn't exactly. What I'm looking for and that I'm ready to expand into this next level of conscious relating Yes. And to see that he is right there all along. And it's funny cuz my story is similar, I also let go of a relationship in the spring that wasn't right and. A friend of mine that I'd been friends with is who I fell in love with because we had so much alignment.

And that's that word back to alignment and. Let's talk about when we didn't do season two last year.  let us talk about, that's such a great thing because it wasn't in alignment. Our lives were so busy and full and we tried and we tried. We even recorded a couple times. Yes we did. Everybody, they're out there floating somewhere in the ethers.

We did not publish because we were like, well, this didn't work. Something was not aligned, and we realized and. Admitted that we didn't need to struggle. We didn't need to force that. When we allowed the grace of the divine timing and just trusted that our friendship is strong, our lives have all the elements that we need to take care of ourselves and be in our own autonomy and work through what we were working through, we both ended relationships.

It was huge transition time for us. Huge work. And it just wasn't the right thing to record about it or we couldn't figure out the scheduling and make it work. And to be in trust in our process was such a huge revelation and gift. Mm-hmm.  and, and just example of how this can be blind faith that you can trust that you can.

Yeah, like putting, putting two spiritual mamas on the back burner for just a traditional kind of way to say things. We didn't put it down. We knew that it was there and it was just on a slow simmer and like the work was getting done. We were having all of these experiences and living them and integrating all these great experiences that we can now bring to you guys and share all, like, have so many seasons forward of, of the last year alone.

My goodness, . But like using that trust. A sticky conversation arises and saying to that person, I trust our relationship is strong enough to take a pause right now to take a pause and come back to this conversation later. You know? And I really appreciate that in that divine timing. And I, I have a lot of experiences with people.

I have a lot of people in my life and they'll come and I have to talk to you now, and I'm like, I wanna give you, My full attention and I can't give it to you right now. And if they say, but I need to talk to you, I say, I'm gonna trust that we can take a deep breath right now and we can talk in an hour or a tomorrow, and we'll have a much more valuable conversation and teaching myself to do that.

Versus saying, okay, fine, go ahead. And then I was like, blah. And then I'm like, this is not helping me right now. Yeah. And it didn't help the situation. So having that pause and ability to trust especially like if, if they come to me and something starts to get tight in my body. I'm like, oh, no, no, this is not right.

And I, this is valuable. Everything is valuable. If you give it the right timing and the right space and some things you're like there's no space for that actually. Yes. That's, that's, that's a whole nother podcast, . Well, one of my favorite teachers, and I know I've mentioned her a lot in season one, but Tosha Silver wrote a book called Outrageous Openness, and it is little tidbit stories, a lot like what we base our podcast on, just how do we use these concepts in our lives?

What are good examples of the outcome when you do do this? And her biggest tool, To trust and have faith is surrender. Mm. And it sounds like you're aware to surrender to the timing of like, my body isn't ready to do this, this is not alignment for me, and I need to Yeah. Pause this conversation. And that is just the healthiest thing that you can do for most.

Beneficial communication to be able to say to somebody, I really want to talk this through with you, but can we do it when I'm resourced? Can we do it? Yeah. When I have time. Can we do it in an hour or tomorrow? Like you said, this is great tools for surrendering to that. Alignment of what is and what isn't, because sometimes you have to surrender to what just isn't working and say, okay, I offer that to the divine.

Go ahead, take with it what you need. We offered two spiritual mamas to the divine. We said, okay, if right now isn't the time, then we won't record right now and we won't keep. Pushing forward, we'll just set it down and know and trust that we can pick it back up again. And here we are. And here we're, and I wanted to talk about what you just said with resource.

That's such a great word. You know, like, am I a resource right now? Should I be putting my attention toward a future goal or a future relationship, or should I. Putting my energy towards me so that I can feel resourced when I am ready to step into a new relationship that I don't know about yet. But I want, you know, so if you're, if you're starting to feel that way, that you're like, I'm teetering here.

I don't know where my energy's coming from, that's an indication to say. You, you have to draw back in. You have to light the candle. You have to say the prayers. You have to go to your, your Oracle cards or to the earth or the water, whatever you need. Whatever you've deemed is your really top five resources to replenish and renew and refurbish.

Do that because then the divine will see you as Okay, she's ready. He's ready. There's an available capacity. For them to have a new relationship or a new job opportunity or whatever it is that you're excited about. Right. You need to make space to allow. New things to be brought into your life too.

Sometimes you need to set something down or walk away or let go to allow the space. And right now there's a lot of retrograde planets and we're talking about how, yeah, how you get to review and redo and go back to what is important and choose. And that was what we were gonna talk about too, is right, like you get to choose based on what you feel on the inside and what you're guided to trust yourself.

You are your best resource for being able to make the best decisions for you, and we trust you. Yes. So we want you to have that trust in yourself, the blind faith that you are on the path making your decisions for your highest good and the highest good of all. And that's the prayer. I wanna share my little quote that I drive around with in my car.

This was a birthday present from my good friend that just trusts the divine so much. I love her, and she gave me this little reflective thing I put in my dashboard and it, I read it off of my windshield. Everywhere I go, it says, I love my mastery of trust, knowing that all is well, and just affirming that you love is well.

Your mastery of trust, right? The mastery of trust, the mastery of blind faith, and the mastery of grace, the mastery of balance, trusting yourself to be that master of this divine will, and that you get to be the one to bring divine will to people's lives, to your own life. And yeah. And we are gonna do kind of an episode two of this topic, because doing the.

Is what we're alluding to here, that you can't just have blind faith and be like, well, I don't know what's coming. It's like you want to step into your own strength and your own power and your own source and do the work. And a lot of times, and I, I could tell more stories, but I'm not going to, it's. Oh, I forgot to clean out that junk drawer, you know, and I'm not, I'm, I mean, it could actually be a junk drawer, but it could be that little emotional junk drawer or that one last thing.

You know, if you're still emotionally tied to a relationship or a job, you have a little cord, little cordage you have to tie off and work with. But sometimes there's just a little bit more. That is that you have to do to move forward. And that to me is often why when I say I want this and I get, I actually get a vision of a curtain, but like a stage and a curtain, and the curtain is closed and it's like, shoot, the curtain's not open yet.

I guess I got a little bit more work to do and I go back and I say, what is it? And I, I lean in and I, I figure that. And I use my, I have a lot of helpers. I call a lot of people. And you know, I don't do this alone. I haven't done this alone ever in, in spirit or in human people. . I have a tribe. And so I.

When you feel stuck and you feel like nothing is working out, I'm so afraid. I don't know. I don't know. You know, that's when you turn to yourself, look in the mirror and say, what am I holding myself back from and what fears of my own am I still feeding? And what is the language you might be using? And, and just, and please just.

Don't be afraid to ask yourself those tough questions. How am I positively holding myself back from success? And then do the work. Clear the clutter. Do Alicia's program. She's got a great soul coaching program that is spectacular and it helps you and it's like this cool lifetime memberships. You get to do it every time I've done it like four times.

It's great. . So Doing that work and allowing things to unfold, but being conscious of them, you know, as they unfold and, and looking at things with curiosity it's so helpful and so lovely, and it does make your life a little bit more enjoyable. Instead of being like, this is happening to me, why is it not working?

You're like, this is happening for me. Look at that . Yeah. Radical gratitude. Acceptance. Yes. Surrender. And then looking at who is creating. Right. We are creating our own realities, and if we have old belief systems or triggers that make us respond in a way that is not for our highest good and not really getting us where we wanna go, then that's what we look at.

We look at it from the point of the sacred observer, observing ourselves. Mm-hmm. . And we will dive into that in the next. We certainly will. I'm so excited. Yay. Thanks Alicia. That was fun. Yeah, I love, I love this stuff. I love talking about how we can make our world better, right? And we wanna be there for you.

So reach out. Our listeners are please send us an email or check out the website and sign up for the program and connect cuz we are here for you. You're not alone. Awesome. You are not alone. Have a wonderful day.