EP97: Lucid Dreaming & Lucid Living

What if your dreams could become a playground for healing, transformation, and soul growth?

In this powerful episode of The Dream World Podcast, Amina sits down with filmmaker, dream educator, and lifelong lucid dreamer Nisha Burton to explore how lucid dreaming can help us face fear, satisfy deep desires, and even prepare for death. Raised in a lineage of dreamers, Nisha shares how her mother nurtured her dream life from childhood and how that led her into profound spiritual explorations through lucid states.

From flying through the cosmos and indulging in dream pastries (hello, gluten-free croissants!) to entering the clear light of mind inspired by Tibetan dream yoga, Nisha’s stories will inspire you to embrace dreaming as a sacred part of life. The two also dive into dream mirrors, the mysterious "dream police," dream portals, shared dreaming, and learning to trust your unique dream symbolism.

Whether you're deep into your practice or just starting out, this episode will remind you: your dreams are valid, powerful, and deeply personal. 🌌

About the Guest

Nisha Burton is a skilled visual artist and dream worker, trained in the art of journeying into the deep subconscious from a young age. For the past decade, she has been immersed in the practice of lucid dreaming. By combining her studies of the works of dream researchers, Tibetan dream yoga, and other lucid dreamers, healers and mystics, she has developed a unique, multicultural perspective on dream work. As a professional filmmaker, a virtual-reality expert, and a branding strategist, she specializes in the craft of storytelling. Her artistic skill is evident in her beautiful card illustrations, which are infused with visual symbolism drawn directly from her hundreds of lucid dreams and out-of-body experiences.

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https://normaburton.com/

Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;32;24
Unknown
It's so cool watching the process of going from conscious to unconscious while you're letting your body fall asleep and seeing how the dreams are formed. Doesn't mean that just because you're lucid, like it won't be scary, but it's just a way to, like, tackle it on. Exactly. Yeah. The fears can still be there, but I feel like for myself, bringing in the knowing that I am in a dream and then being able to I mean, like you're saying, a lot of times people will just then wake themselves up, which can be empowering to be like, okay, I have an escape route, and as you get it, you build that muscle and skeletal muscle dreaming.

00;00;32;24 - 00;01;05;23
Unknown
Then you can really stick with it and engage with it in a different way. And it might be, you know, befriending the fearful projection, whatever they are. Or it might be setting strong boundaries and being like, hey, no, you can't come this direction. Whatever that resolution is for the particular dream. It can be super, super powerful.

00;01;05;25 - 00;01;32;20
Unknown
So welcome to the Dream World podcast. I'm here today with Nisha. I'm really excited to chat with you because I love talking to other lucid dreamers and other people that make content about dreaming in general. So I think it's really awesome also that you and your mom make content together. That really stood out to me. I think it's super important and interesting when we like make dreaming a family thing, you know, pass it on to generations and like raise our kids to be dreamers.

00;01;32;25 - 00;01;51;27
Unknown
I think it's so cool that you were like, raised with all these different dreaming cultures and, and practices. So I'll let you take it away and introduce yourself. But that's really what stood out to me. And of course, the name of your community and brand lucid dreaming, lucid living. I think that's super important. Two very interesting parallels. So we'll talk about that.

00;01;52;00 - 00;02;18;23
Unknown
But yeah, welcome to the podcast. You know, kind of take it away. Tell me how you got into lucid dreaming and, and kind of how this journey has evolved. Absolutely. Thanks so much for having me here today. Yeah. The my name is Nisha Burton and my mom's name is Norma Burton. And as you mentioned, you know, I really love what you said about how important it is to encourage all the generations and make dreaming and lucid dreaming a lineage path.

00;02;18;25 - 00;02;40;00
Unknown
And so I feel really grateful for my mom and that she really encouraged me in the dream time from a young age. You know, growing up, a lot of kids can get the messaging and reinforcement of like, oh, that was just a dream. Or like, don't pay attention to that. And sometimes it can even be well-meaning, like, if a kid wakes up from a nightmare, like, don't worry, it wasn't real.

00;02;40;00 - 00;03;08;27
Unknown
It was just a dream. But I feel like by and large, in our culture, when we're constantly reinforced with that message that the dream time isn't important, then we tend to forget or disregard what we're experiencing in our dreams. So for me, being raised by my mom and we kind of come from a lineage of dreamers too, because my great grandma was also a dreamer, that a lot of the town would come and listen to her somewhat prophetic dreams about what was going on in the town.

00;03;09;00 - 00;03;40;24
Unknown
It was really wonderful to be encouraged. And so from a young age, I was very connected to my dream time always, and didn't lose that connection that we often have when we're children. And then in my early 20s is when I really began getting interested in lucid dreaming, and it came through the pathway of it's kind of a little bit of existential crisis where I was thinking one day and then driving along in the car and said, oh yeah, and when I die, just kind of offhandedly, but rather than how it normally was just a passing phrase, it really hit me.

00;03;40;26 - 00;04;14;09
Unknown
The gravity and reality of that, that at some point I would be passing into the great unknown, the great mystery, and what would be ahead of me? What would it be to have my consciousness no longer in my physical body? And so I was spiraling in a bit of fear for quite a while around that. And then eventually I came to the realization that every night we go into a place that is less linear, that is not an ordinary reality, where we're not in our physical bodies, which is the dream time.

00;04;14;09 - 00;04;43;14
Unknown
And so from that, then I was reading, serendipitously, the Tibetan Book of the dead and about dream yoga. And a lot of that is around the practice of lucid dreaming to prepare for what comes after death. So that, along with Stephen Liberation and you know, the the very practical tools for lucid dreaming, that's what really propelled my journey more consciously, rather than just having spontaneous, lucid dreams here and there.

00;04;43;17 - 00;05;07;26
Unknown
And from that, and really dedicating myself to the practices that you do while you're awake to induce lucid dreams, I was able to pick up the art of lucid dreaming quite quickly, and then have really advanced lucid dreaming experiences and journey so many places. And that fear really. Did you know death? It really did diminish because I was like, well, I'm bringing lucid, conscious awareness into this place.

00;05;07;26 - 00;05;29;07
Unknown
That is not ordinary reality that is different than this physical waking life. And so that boosted my confidence in, you know, what lies ahead. I love that, yeah, a lot of people say that lucid dreaming kind of helps get rid of the fear of death and myself included. It's kind of like like a practice in a way. You know, like you said, we just away from our physical bodies.

00;05;29;13 - 00;05;52;18
Unknown
And it just really, for me, showed me that, like, my consciousness will continue on to more adventures, you know, so I don't necessarily won't need my physical body after death, which is a really scary but interesting concept. I think that's really cool. So in your first few lucid experiences, like, what were they like? Like what do you like to do in your lucid and, and kind of what has helped you kind of grow in your practice?

00;05;52;20 - 00;06;21;12
Unknown
Yeah, that's a great question. So for my first lucid dream that happened, you know, when I was doing the daytime practices to really induce lucid dreaming rather than just a spontaneous, lucid dream, I was walking in a field with my friend, and we came across this kind of like abandoned building structure, and we were walking up to it, and then she had gone off around the corner and I went around a different corner, and there was a really scary figure there, like a man standing there.

00;06;21;12 - 00;06;42;01
Unknown
And I was shocked and terrified at first. But then I had the thought, wait a minute, could I be dreaming? Because, you know, I've been training my minds to constantly ask that question. And then I did a state check. I looked at my hands, I flipped and back and forth. They didn't stay normal. They turned. I think in this particular one I had an extra finger and I was like, oh, I'm dreaming.

00;06;42;08 - 00;07;04;15
Unknown
And then with that click into lucidity, I was so relieved, elated and empowered in my dream world and that moment. And so then I decided to just fly away from the scenario, but just fly up into the sky, into the cosmos, up, up, up. And it was so beautiful and freeing and really, yeah, profound to have that moment.

00;07;04;15 - 00;07;22;16
Unknown
And then as I progressed with lucid dreaming, I talk about and I'm curious if you find this to a lot of lucid dreamers I've heard have this experience of like kind of the desire fulfillment phase where it's like you realize you can do whatever you want in the dream. And so for me, I have a kind of funny example that I'm allergic to wheat gluten.

00;07;22;16 - 00;07;41;16
Unknown
And so every time I become lucid for a phase of my lucid dreaming, I would go to like a coffee shop or a bakery in my dream, and I would eat a bunch of donuts and croissants. And it was so wonderful because they tasted so real. And, you know, everything is so alive when you're in a lucid dream like waking reality.

00;07;41;22 - 00;08;05;25
Unknown
So that was really joyful. And then once I moved past that kind of desire fulfillment, like being able to do and taste whatever I wanted, then moving into more transformational and transcendent experiences within the lucid dream realms. Yeah, I can totally relate. And it's always so mind blowing how realistic everything is. Like concrete really feels exactly like concrete and food tastes so vivid and delicious.

00;08;05;29 - 00;08;24;04
Unknown
I definitely went through a phase of just like eating everything. I just say can't eat in waking life. All this like fancy expensive dishes and things like that. And then, you know, traveling to places I've wanted to go. A lot of people even get into, you know, their sexual urges with lucid dreams. So it's totally a real and normal thing.

00;08;24;04 - 00;08;49;14
Unknown
You know, you can do anything you want. So I totally relate. Yeah, a lot of times to, you know, when I'm teaching or talking to people about lucid dreaming. So wonder if you like, if you can get overly hung up in that phase, or if it's like there's any kind of psychological dangers to it. And I mean, obviously if somebody has a tendency towards addiction or different things that they're working through, then that's something to consider with their therapist.

00;08;49;20 - 00;09;10;18
Unknown
But a lot of times what I've found for myself is in that desire fulfillment phase. Like that's why I call it desire fulfillment is because it really does, like meet those desires in the dream time, and the subconscious is satisfied with the symbolic realm. So then for me, for example, eating all those croissants and donuts that actually helped ease those desires in waking reality.

00;09;10;18 - 00;09;34;09
Unknown
Like I didn't have that need anymore because I wasn't missing out on something. Because, as you said, in lucid dreaming, it feels as real many times as it does in waking reality. So it was really a very healing experience to be able to do those things. And, and, you know, have those experiences in the dream time and then the waking reality, it was released from those desires and cravings.

00;09;34;12 - 00;09;52;29
Unknown
So that's an interesting perspective. And it makes so much sense. You know, we're kind of exposing ourselves to to this in like a safe way without as many physical consequences. So I think it's very natural and I think it's a very good use for lucid dreaming. I mean, it's kind of our way of of integrating the spiritual with the physical, you know?

00;09;53;03 - 00;10;12;27
Unknown
So I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. And then if you do evolve to more transform deep, powerful, life changing things, that's cool too. You know, sometimes I have fun in my lucid dreams and sometimes I ask deep, meaningful questions. I think it just I go through phases for sure, where like for a month, I'll be trying to do something specific and then I'll change to something else or get a new idea.

00;10;12;27 - 00;10;39;00
Unknown
There's there's really endless things you can do while lucid. Yeah, it's so true. I really find just like you're saying, you know, there can be these different phases and in different moments in life too. Maybe you go into like a really profound practice within lucid dreaming or trying to speak with your higher self or, you know, encounter beings of great power, etc., more spiritual experiences, and then the desire for from it and all the different types of lucid dreams.

00;10;39;02 - 00;11;05;03
Unknown
And yeah, I really find that we don't need to make it hierarchical, like this is better than that. And even with lucid dreaming, lucid dreaming versus non lucid dreams, a lot of times people talk to me and they're like, well, do you need to have lucid dreams every single night to be like an actual skilled, lucid dreamer? And I really my personal opinion at least, is that all the different types of dreams hold value and psychological and spiritual benefit.

00;11;05;03 - 00;11;25;25
Unknown
And so it's not about that. Lucid dreaming is the pinnacle. And people, once they become lucid dreamers, need to only lucid dream. But it's a powerful piece in the puzzle of your four dream worlds. Definitely. A lot of people like get tunnel vision with just wanting to have lucid dreams. And I always tell people like, don't forget about your non lucid dreams because I cherish mine a lot too.

00;11;26;00 - 00;11;43;04
Unknown
Sometimes when we're lucid, like, you know, like we just talked about, we exert our ego onto the dream and we want to control everything. And that's not necessarily always what we need. Sometimes the dream has a message for us that we can't interfere with or control or, you know, it's natural. You know, some people have way more lucid dreams than others.

00;11;43;04 - 00;12;03;08
Unknown
But I think a balance is important. Even if you have like a lot of lucid dreams some people say can get exhausting. I don't know about you, but me personally, I kind of feel refreshed after a lucid dream. Yeah, I'm the same way where I feel really alive and after a lucid dream. And you know, as you mentioned in the beginning, our brand, what everything we do is called lucid dreaming, lucid living.

00;12;03;08 - 00;12;30;27
Unknown
And that's because it really is about how the dream world and ordinary reality relate to one another and are deeply entwined with one another. And so it's not just about becoming lucid in your dreams, but how lucid dreaming can actually help you to be more lucid, more aware, and more conscious in your waking reality. Experiencing the levels of agency that you have in your lucid dream world can carry over to feeling more agency in your waking life.

00;12;31;04 - 00;13;04;10
Unknown
Being able, like we're talking about to fulfill desires in your dream time can make you feel more satisfied in your waking life and then also having these deep, psychologically beneficial, spiritually beneficial, transformational experience in your dream time. Then that feeling of just the the profound access that we have to those realms within ourselves, not needing to look externally, definitely carries over into waking reality and knowing and feeling that you can one work with your deep psyche.

00;13;04;10 - 00;13;34;10
Unknown
You can work with your subconscious in this way of being lucid within it. And then also you can tap into these really powerful experience is and you were saying earlier to about intention and having different intentions at different periods of time for your lucid dreaming. And I find that's really helpful too, for lucid dreamers at all stages, like in the beginning stage, it might just be I want to become lucid or I want to sustain my lucid dreams, or I'd like to go eat some donuts.

00;13;34;16 - 00;13;56;04
Unknown
But then as it continues on, having, you know, those deeper intentions of, for me, one of them studying the dream yoga practices is about experiencing what the clear light of mind is in the dream time. So you're preparing for that after death to. And so I had one dream where for a while that was my real strong intention.

00;13;56;10 - 00;14;20;06
Unknown
And then eventually I did become lucid in the dream. And I remembered that intention, which sometimes remembering the intention can be tricky too, carrying it from waking reality into the dream time. But when I did, I suddenly, you know, I thought, okay, I want to go and experience this thing. And I was lifted up into the air and, and everything became like a very blinding white, beautiful light.

00;14;20;06 - 00;14;48;26
Unknown
And it felt like something that is beyond words to express. But one of the most blissful and powerful states that I've been in, you know, in my consciousness. And when I woke from that dream to I was just so beautiful and amazing to have been able to experience that in the dream time. So I tell people, you know, have your different intentions of what you want to do when you become lucid, because that will actually continually help you to have lucid dreams.

00;14;48;26 - 00;15;06;22
Unknown
It's kind of like the Anchor. Yeah, it helps with incubating the dream. And I also like sometimes it takes a couple attempts, like if I'm trying to do something, it doesn't work right away or I'll kind of get there, but it won't fully play out in the dream. So sometimes it takes me like 5 or 6 lucid dreams to fully feel satisfied with like a dream task.

00;15;06;27 - 00;15;26;15
Unknown
So it really is like a practice, you know, like going to the gym, you get better and better and you go up and down. so yeah, totally. That's cool. Yeah. Exactly. The, the muscle of lucid dreaming and the skill of it. I feel like a lot of people I talk to who don't lucid dream at all, or don't lucid dream that often feel like it's something that's reserved just for the skilled few.

00;15;26;23 - 00;15;51;14
Unknown
But I always tell them that really it is like any other skill where if you dedicate yourself to it, you'll get better at it. But if you just kind of like think, oh, that'd be nice to do, but don't do the waking practices of checking in and noticing your dream signs and then constantly questioning if you could be dreaming or not, and then performing state checks or reality checks, then you might become lucid.

00;15;51;14 - 00;16;26;13
Unknown
Sometimes, but you're not really training your mind and making those strong neural pathways of the constant questioning. And then the way to verify whether or not you're dreaming, which I find that state checks are such a key part, especially in the beginning stages for people, because it really is a lot of times what clicks on the the light switch of lucidity, where you can have a dream, where you're kind of going along and you're like, oh, maybe I'm dreaming, but then you don't do a state check or you don't like, have that full lucid realization and you wake up and you're like, darn, I was dreaming.

00;16;26;13 - 00;16;51;22
Unknown
But I didn't fully realize it. And so, yeah, like checking your hands for thinking back and forth. One that I really like too is jumping up in the air and seeing if you come back down or if you start flying and or, you know, float or whatever. I feel like that's such a good one. And it's a fun one to do during the day and waking reality, too, because it kind of brings a little play into your life where you're like, asking if you could be dreaming regularly and then doing a little hop in the air.

00;16;51;23 - 00;17;12;17
Unknown
So yeah, I find like that's such an important part of practicing and strengthening the muscle of lucid dreaming. Yeah, it's such a learnable skill for sure. And although maybe some people are more natural than others, like, it literally is something that anybody can do. And it's free. You do it while you sleep, you know? And I also am a big proponent of state checks, reality checks, whatever you call them.

00;17;12;22 - 00;17;37;18
Unknown
And that's kind of something that helped me a lot too. And I do just love how like different things work for different people, you know? So that's why there's so many different techniques. It's good to like really experiment. But there are some people like so the reality checks, state tests are kind of like they really test to that lucid living muscle of like practicing being aware and like establishing that thought process, like you were saying, of like thinking critically no matter what dimension you're in.

00;17;37;20 - 00;17;55;21
Unknown
So it's like a thought process that we're building. But some people really will argue that you don't need any sort of techniques at all, and that there's this one, overarching like state of like all day awareness, which is a technique in and of itself, I guess, of just kind of being lucid 24 over seven, which is obviously not easy.

00;17;55;23 - 00;18;18;15
Unknown
But essentially, in theory, it sounds good, right? Like if you go to sleep, you just know, like the last thing I was doing, I was asleep. So then no matter what I'm doing next time, I must be dreaming. But there's some sort of disconnect there where like, it doesn't necessarily happen that perfectly, you know? And so, I don't know, I think although some people argue that that's all you need, I think it's good to like, explore and try different techniques and see what works for, like each individual.

00;18;18;20 - 00;18;43;09
Unknown
Because maybe one person, you know loves reality checks and one person doesn't. So yeah, just just experiment, trial and error. Yeah, I really agree that it's not a one size fits all. I mean, our dream worlds are not a one size fits all, which is why another reason I really like lucid dreaming and dream work in general is, you know, people will look for guidance and interpreting around their dreams to dream dictionaries, different things like that.

00;18;43;09 - 00;19;18;22
Unknown
And I think that's fine as a starting point, but I always encourage people to really learn their specific dream language and dream symbolism. And it's it's not the one size fits all by any means. Like our psyches have a very complex and rich catalog of of what things mean and what metaphors we've created. And so I'm learning that it's like learning the language of your mind, which is so powerful and then like you're saying to, yeah, there can be lots of ways to enter lucidity, and some people are able to maintain a more lucid awareness.

00;19;18;22 - 00;19;40;26
Unknown
There's also the technique of taking your waking consciousness directly into the lucid dream when you're going to sleep, which I find to be a little bit more of an advanced technique, being able to maintain consciousness but let your body fall asleep and then you go directly into the lucid dream. I have had lucid dream experiences like that, and it is really powerful when you do achieve it.

00;19;40;26 - 00;20;03;17
Unknown
It's so exciting because you're like you're laying in your bed, you're relaxing your body, you're starting to fall asleep. And then oftentimes what happens is that you're you're like seeing all of the images that normally form as you're starting to fall asleep, but not getting overly drawn into them or letting yourself fall into the sleep state, rather maintaining the lucid awareness.

00;20;03;17 - 00;20;37;21
Unknown
And then, like when I had in particular, I was seeing all these images, it's almost like I was going in the cosmos or something, like in the blackness of the expanse. And then I saw a dream in front of me more clearly, beginning to form like way out ahead of me. And then seeing it was like a grassy field and being able to kind of not get drawn into the distractions of the other images or falling asleep, then all the way made it through to that dream and arrived in that dream completely lucid in this field.

00;20;37;23 - 00;20;56;10
Unknown
And that can be a really powerful technique too. But it's not easy always. They're not easy for everybody. We have on our website. We have or actually send our YouTube a guided meditation that kind of walks through that process for people so that you can try it out and listen to it and prime your mind to to try that practice.

00;20;56;16 - 00;21;14;24
Unknown
But like you're saying, I think different things work for different people. And that's why it's great that there's so many teachings out there about lucid dreaming right now, in so many resources, so that somebody can find what really works for them, and not to get discouraged if one thing doesn't work. Because in my work for one person, but not for you.

00;21;14;24 - 00;21;38;15
Unknown
And that just means that there's probably another technique out there that'll work better for you. Yeah, true. And you can't give up on that trial and error process. It can be frustrating, you know? But yeah, I think it's so cool. I will link the meditation and tag your YouTube and everything that you're referring to. And just so the listeners know, it's called the wake induced lucid dream, the wild method, which implies, you know, it's induced by staying awake and it's also very hard for me.

00;21;38;15 - 00;21;55;28
Unknown
I've only done it a handful of times. And again, I know a handful of people that are like, that's my go to. It's so easy for me, you know? But it's so cool watching the process of going from conscious to unconscious while you're letting your body fall asleep and seeing how the dreams are formed. Like, for me, I usually go through this like tunnel.

00;21;56;05 - 00;22;17;20
Unknown
It's like an intimate channel tunnel, and then I end up in this, like void. And I'm used to it now, but it was really scary and comes with some weird, like, electrical sensations and like, weird body sensations. And it's kind of like a video game map that starts to like, render, like in real time. And then next thing you know, I'm in the dream and sometimes I lose lucidity and come back to it.

00;22;17;20 - 00;22;41;12
Unknown
And it's really interesting. Definitely like when I'm able to have a successful wild, but it's only like a few times maybe like once a year for me. Yeah, yeah. It's definitely for me more a more rare one as well. And I mean that's what I love about speaking with other lucid dreamers is that you really do get to see that there's these common melodies which makes it feel like we are experiencing a collective experience.

00;22;41;12 - 00;23;01;10
Unknown
It kind of reify it in some ways, because I can so relate to the void and being a lot of times for me with my lucid dreams, especially in the beginning, like I would get sucked into the void, or it would be a transition space between one lucid dream and the other, between one reality and the other. And yeah, at first it's kind of like overwhelming.

00;23;01;10 - 00;23;31;12
Unknown
And also I found that it could lead me to waking up instead of staying lucid because I would be like in that realm and then back in my bed awake, but then learning how to use that space and how it can be this really powerful space of kind of like the breath between lucid dreams. So going in and then thinking about setting intention for where you want to travel next in your lucid reality, and then, yeah, also like the tunnel experience, I relate to that too, with that particular technique.

00;23;31;12 - 00;23;55;20
Unknown
It feels, yeah, like a long pathway or a tunnel or an intimate interdimensional wormhole. It's it's really cool that way. So yeah, the more the more lucid dreamers that you can connect with, you really find that there are these commonalities which I feel like it's so powerful, just like in waking reality with consensus reality, right? If we all see a table in a room, then we're like, okay, that table is there.

00;23;55;20 - 00;24;14;16
Unknown
So if we all experience these similar things in lucid dreams, it's like, wow, this is the thing that is a real space we're visiting. Yeah, I love that concept of like, I really do believe that we kind of all access this shared realm to a degree and and that we could, like, meet up and exchange information like, I'm a full believer and there is some research on that.

00;24;14;16 - 00;24;33;15
Unknown
But yeah, I think it's cool that we can all have these similar experiences throughout generations and share them with each other. Have you ever tried, like asking the date and time in a lucid dream? I know that's like such a big thing online lately about like, don't do this. It's bad, you know, which we know it's fine, but have you ever tried something like that?

00;24;33;17 - 00;24;53;10
Unknown
I haven't done that particular one, but another one that I see a lot online, that kind of. Yeah. It's so interesting when people say like, don't do this or like, like I feel like with just social media and whatnot, things that are like a little bit scary or edgy definitely get people excited. And so then those spread really far.

00;24;53;15 - 00;25;18;11
Unknown
So one that I saw going around for a while, I was like, never look in a mirror in a lucid dream. And in some ways I can see how, yeah, it might be a little bit intense. It might be a little bit frightening sometimes for people, what they see might be something that they don't expect except, however, you know, blocking one off from doing those things is really a missed opportunity.

00;25;18;11 - 00;25;53;07
Unknown
So for me, with the mirror thing, I had some anxiety when I would like see mirrors and lucid dreams in the beginning, not because I had even heard those things, but just because mirrors are in a lot of ways, like in waking reality to kind of these, these portals to what feel like other spaces. And so, in my dreams, as I became more comfortable looking in the mirror, one thing that was really powerful was being able to, like, reconstruct my physical body, my body in this reality and waking reality, and being able to see my face and see who I am in this reality.

00;25;53;07 - 00;26;15;02
Unknown
In my lucid dream, that reflection was really cool and felt like it was a skill set that I was building within my lucid dreams. And then I also discovered that mirrors could also serve as really powerful portals in a lucid dream. And so often times I would. I'll take, I'll say one dream in particular, where I was like in a public bathroom, which is one of my dream signs.

00;26;15;03 - 00;26;34;11
Unknown
Actually, it's a funny one, but I was walking by the mirror and then I had the thought, wait a minute, could I be dreaming? I did this state check of jumping up, and I floated a little bit and I was like, oh, okay, I'm for sure dreaming. And then I turned to look in the mirror and I did see myself, although I was morphing and changing and looking non, you know, non ordinary.

00;26;34;14 - 00;26;51;27
Unknown
And then I walked up to the mirror and I put my finger up to it and it kind of ripples a little bit like in the matrix. Right. I think that happened in The Matrix. And then I like pushed my whole hand through the mirror and I was able to put my whole body into it. And when I went through it in this particular dream, I went into the void space.

00;26;52;00 - 00;27;21;01
Unknown
But it had a little bit of a different quality to it too. And then I transformed and went into another dream that another lucid dream space. But it's really cool to see how, yeah, see how mirrors can work in lucid dreams and also see beyond. That's the reason I'm giving that example is to like, not let what other people are saying, especially if they're really fear based and kind of trying to hijack your emotional system by like planting seeds of fear into your lucid dreaming experience.

00;27;21;03 - 00;27;37;16
Unknown
If you can go beyond that, then that it's really powerful. That can happen. I'm curious, did you ask what time? Yeah, I've done all the things that people say not to do. The mirrors. I've seen the ripple too, which is so cool. Like hearing you and being like, oh my God, I saw that too. Yeah, but I did ask the date and time a few times.

00;27;37;18 - 00;28;01;14
Unknown
Sometimes in my lucid dreams, like in one of them, I was in the future. It was like 20, 29 and I was like seeing all these things of like supposedly how my life evolved. So I guess we'll see. I'll have to update people if it happens or not. But, what I'm trying to think in another one. Sometimes it's in the future, sometimes it's in the past, sometimes they'll just give me a random date and time, usually like the whole thing about, oh, dream characters turning weird and acting suspicious.

00;28;01;16 - 00;28;18;01
Unknown
I've never necessarily had that. Like, sometimes they do look at me crazy, or they're like, don't tell anyone you're dreaming. And I've had this whole like, experience that I call the dream police that a lot of people relate to, where I'll have, like, these figures trying to, like, end my lucid dream or like, kill the fun or or like make me not lucid, you know?