EP98: Ancestral Wisdom & Matriarchal Power

Amina sits down with Alaya Dannu, a doctoral candidate and lifelong dreamer, to explore ancestral memory, the Queen Mother tradition, and the power of matriarchal consciousness.

From divine dream visitations to being guided by fire, wind, and water, Alaya shares how she is living her dissertation through elemental messages, global travel, and deep spiritual transformation. This episode touches on reclaiming ancient matriarchal wisdom, redefining ancestry, dream journaling, and the healing role of lucid awareness.

Alaya unpacks what it means to be chosen by the ancestors, how dreams are tied to earth-based wisdom, and how spiritual names carry the weight of purpose. We also dive into cycles, dreams as infrastructure, and how to build a new world through the lens of the divine feminine.

🌍 This is a must-listen for anyone ready to go deeper into dreamwork, ancestral healing, and collective awakening.

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Transcript

Asking the big questions, you know, does humanity really want to transform and. Change their ways? And is humanity willing to reconnect in this way? Because that's what you have to do. I get to Morocco and so much more about the situation comes to light and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's not just about theory. And that's that's been my whole journey.

I've been living the tradition without realizing it until getting into these situations of being pushed into these situations where I'm just like, what do I do? Then I go to the dream or waking state. What do I do? Wind? What do I do? Fire? What do I do? Do I pray? Do I a piece, you know, like no, just listen to us and then we'll tell you where to go.
And it's like, oh my gosh.

So a liar. Welcome officially to the Dreamworld podcast. It's it's fun to chat and get to know you and, and just talk to other dreamers that are in the community and just doing this important work around dream. So welcome and thank you. I'm excited to hear about, like, your journey, how you got into dreams. And you know what you're working on now.


So I guess, you know, take it away. Whatever feels feels right for your introduction. Thank you so much. I mean, thank you for the invitation. When I got your first invite for I-s-d, I went onto your, you know, your YouTube, and I was like, ooh, I wonder if I can be on this one day. And I never said anything.


So, so. And I received the invite. I was just like, yes. So a little bit of background and intro. My name is a liar. Liar. Daniel out of, legal out in the legalese world. That's the name that I go by. I'm a the, is my spiritual or traditional name with regards to tradition goes. And my ancestral mother's gave me that name, gave me those names.

All of them, really. But I tend to lean more towards Dia or Armadillo because it ties in heavily to my work and my dissertation. And I'm currently a doctoral candidate at Fielding Graduate, University. And the difference between being a student and candidate is when you reach candidacy status, that means you finish all of your coursework and you're doing your research.

00;02;24;00 - 00;03;08;17
Unknown
Yes. And so the program I'm in is education leadership for change. And my topic is so the overall topic is the transmission of ancestral memory across experience through dreams. However, my specific research project is really about giving voice to these very old and ancient ancestral mothers and the traditions that they created long, long ago. I'm talking about eons ago and how that knowledge that they embodied and passed down through dreams can be of use for a lot of our environmental and societal issues.

00;03;08;19 - 00;03;42;20
Unknown
My project initially, I was going to go through my dreams. I was raised on ancestral trains, and I guess I'll kind of define what that is, because when I say ancestors specifically, when I say ancestral genes, I'm talking about these very ancient ancestors, right? But for the general populace that are engaged in, in lucid dreams or just dreamwork, in and of itself, an ancestor could be anyone related or anyone that's been monuments with your growth that has transitioned and they become an ancestor, which is, yes, absolutely true.

00;03;42;20 - 00;04;08;28
Unknown
So but for me in particular, when I say ancestral dreams, I'm talking about the very ancient ones that come to you and reveal knowledge and information. So ancestral genes, you have no control over them, right? So for me growing up that's come into show book I have I think, I don't know, nine journals I think at this point.

00;04;09;00 - 00;04;37;23
Unknown
So growing up, you know, my mother would, we would, we would just have dream circles. And when I turned 17, that's when I started documenting them. And so these dreams, actually, it's knowledge that these ancient ancestral mothers have been sharing with me across time space. Right. And they have a lot to do with the tradition that I was born into, that I carry, that my mother, you know, decided to hold firmly to because she was born into a Christian family.

00;04;37;23 - 00;05;03;24
Unknown
But she was like, nope, I'm going to follow this guidance, and I'm getting through my dreams and pass that on to my children. So what I've come to realize throughout the course of my dissertation is that I thought I was going to take some of these dreams and just do a, a critical analysis of, oh, it's talking about this particular ancient matriarchal civilization and then go to the scholarship and just kind of show how they're connected.

00;05;03;24 - 00;05;30;02
Unknown
Right? And present examples of how we can use ancestral dreams to enhance scholarship. And one day, December 2023, they came to me and said, no, this is what you're going to do. I want this, I want that, I want this. And I was like, yeah, there's no way I can focus on my project and your project at the same time and get anything done.

00;05;30;02 - 00;05;47;28
Unknown
So I switched my whole research question and put their voice at the forefront. My gosh. And I ended up going to Hawaii, did data collection there because they sent me to the Pacific Islands. They were like, you need to go there. So I did. But after I returned, then they sent me to Pasadena and I was like, why Pasadena?

00;05;48;00 - 00;06;19;11
Unknown
Oh, la. Okay. Yeah, I'm doing a documentary about the whole journey, listening to the mothers as they speak. Okay, sure. That makes sense. Filmmakers LA right now that wasn't the case. The Pasadena Altadena fires happened. The palisade fires happened. And for me, it was about listening to these elements right. But listening to their instruction, listening to their guidance.

00;06;19;13 - 00;06;41;07
Unknown
And I did that, you know, when do I pack? When do I leave? Where do I go to be able to connect to such primordial elements in that way and then be guided on where to go? I was like, okay, this is something bigger than just getting a PhD. Like, what's going on here? Ended up at Hermosa Beach to just take a breather.

00;06;41;10 - 00;06;57;12
Unknown
went to the water and the water was like, go, go that way. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is like, maybe I'm delirious. I don't know, I haven't slept. So all of that to say, by the time the end of January came, I didn't have a place to go back to because, you know, the air quality was bad.

00;06;57;12 - 00;07;28;12
Unknown
I have asthma, and I couldn't afford where I was. So many, so many things. And I asked them, said, where do I need to go now? Like go to Morocco? I'm like, what is in Morocco? What does that have to do with my dissertation is just like a holiday retreat? Or is there like something to add value? I get to Morocco and so much more about the dissertation comes to light and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I wouldn't have I would not have received that information if I had stayed in the US.

00;07;28;19 - 00;08;09;27
Unknown
And so a lot of what I've been doing lately is redoing my dissertation. That's it. And they tell you your your dissertation is going to change constantly. And I'm like, oh no, that's not that's not going to happen. And yes, it is. So that it, it went from listening to the voices of three ancient ancestral mothers to realizing that, yes, it is listening to them, but the bigger picture is understanding that you're part of a tradition that was spread across the globe in ancient times, had connections to the Pacific islands, had connections to, you know, the parts of the US.

00;08;10;04 - 00;08;39;04
Unknown
It's all about this particular tradition. So it's like the tradition of the Queen mothers. That's a very it's an English term that translates different specific cultural terms of different cultures. So it's just it's just a blanket term to, to use these queen mothers. What they did was they, they were connected, so connected that when natural phenomena would happen, they would connect with the elements, and the elements would tell them where to go, the elements would tell them when to go and the elements would tell them how.

00;08;39;10 - 00;09;06;19
Unknown
And so what I'm finding out in this big journey of mine is that, wow, it's somewhat is back to my original desire to connect these dreams to these ancient civilizations, but it's also demonstrating that if you want to talk about bringing back a specific type of indigenous knowledge from the past to assist with developing solutions for our contemporary times, you have to live it.

00;09;06;25 - 00;09;26;12
Unknown
It's not just about theory. And that's that's been my whole journey. I've been living that tradition without realizing it until getting into these situations or being pushed into these situations where I'm just like, what do I do? And then I go to the dream or waking state. What do I do? Wind? What do I do? Fire? What do I do?

00;09;26;12 - 00;09;44;23
Unknown
Do I pray, do I appease you? And they're like, no, just listen to us and then we'll tell you where to go. And it's like, oh my gosh. So how does that help with with developing solutions today? Well, you want to move to a certain land. You want to heal heal the land. What space? What kind of spiritual space do you have to be in first in order for you to listen?

00;09;44;25 - 00;10;13;25
Unknown
So that you can listen and work with the elements of the land, not just the land, but the other elements around and within that. So it's there's still going to be a documentary. It's just shifting a little. It's not just the three ancient mothers, it's them and their whole tradition, the way they work and, you know, asking the big questions, you know, do you really does humanity really want to transform and change their ways?

00;10;13;29 - 00;10;40;21
Unknown
And as humanity willing to reconnect in this way? Because that's what you have to do. How do you do it is not possible. Yes it is. I've been living it, you know. So all that to say, that's that's that's the big project that I'm working on. And, land holds memory. I would not have I would not have understood the deeper levels of this if I had not come to Morocco.

00;10;40;23 - 00;11;07;09
Unknown
Right. And, you know, Africa is Africa is a continent. It's not a country. So to be in Morocco that also like thanks the question, what what were some of the matriarchal cultures here before it was colonized, right before patriarchy came up, came around like look for the land to speak in the ways that it has. It's it's just been adventure after adventure after adventure.

00;11;07;09 - 00;11;28;18
Unknown
But at the same time, it takes a lot of faith, a lot of faith and trust in your own connection. So if it's not there yet, you know, get to it, get to it. It works and does. It's just, you know, are you willing to do the work, you know? So yeah, that's awesome. I got a lie out of what you just said.

00;11;28;18 - 00;11;46;28
Unknown
Like I had to take notes because there's just so much to unpack here and so much to talk about. I think it's so cool that you really go with the flow of your project, and you let it unfold in its own way, because that really makes it what it's about, which is giving these ancestors a platform to, you know, chime in and speak and do this with you.

00;11;47;03 - 00;12;04;07
Unknown
So I think that's so cool. And I love that you've been stream journaling since you were like a teenager. And, you know, you've had all this time to develop that side of you and your intuition. that's super cool that you were raised around people that that let you foster this connection with your dreams and spirituality. So, yeah, that's awesome.

00;12;04;07 - 00;12;22;18
Unknown
The first thing I wanted to ask you kind of going off of that is, how do we how do you envision, like the preservation of using ancestral wisdom, like in upcoming generations, you know, how do how can one ask for guidance? I mean, some people don't resonate with their ancestors or don't have this connection with them. Really? So what do you think?

00;12;22;24 - 00;12;50;29
Unknown
or maybe some tips for. Well, the biggest thing is with unpacking the the concept of ancestor, because when you say that, people think, oh my God, my crazy great uncle, right? Well, my great great grandfather, that was a genocidal sociopath. And it's like, oh, well, okay, those are your human ancestors. They're very human ancestors that did not heal their trauma and just decided to continue this cycle of disconnected ancestors.

00;12;50;29 - 00;13;17;21
Unknown
That's the first thing I recommend people to work on re evaluating, redefining and relearning or reevaluating. Relearning and redefining what ancestors what that means, right? What that means in the totality of the human experience and what that means for you, and then what it can mean for you. So when you look at the totality of the human experience, look at the other, oh, look at the indigenous cultures that are still alive, right?

00;13;17;28 - 00;13;41;27
Unknown
And look at the indigenous practices of your bloodline. So even though you don't like your great great grand uncle, he you still need to find out the places your people came from because they had their practices pre patriotic practices. Right. And when you look at the indigenous cultures today, for example, let's go to the Pacific Islands. Right. That was how I found out I had ancestral connection.

00;13;42;04 - 00;14;08;13
Unknown
Genetically I'm connected, but there's no direct blood living ancestor I can name. And that's okay, because it's not just about direct blood lineal ancestry. That's patriarchal. Right. So when you decolonize that concept of ancestors, you're looking at animals. You're looking at the land, looking at the sea, looking at trees and looking at plants. Yeah. Everything is an ancestor.

00;14;08;13 - 00;14;32;21
Unknown
The earth is the greatest ancestor to the human species. Okay. So the first step would be to reevaluate, redefine, relearn what that is, what that concept is. Okay. And then if you have people that say, oh, but I'm European, European descended or white American, how are you identify. My roots are in Europe and we don't have to oh, we have Christianity.

00;14;32;21 - 00;15;01;05
Unknown
No, you don't. Christianity is the biggest chop that cause a lot of traumatic disconnect. But before that, your your ancestors, your human ancestors were connected to the land. And then the crows were ancestors, like I have in my particular lineage. There are three animal totems or animal ancestors that have been very vocal in my learning, in my remembering the crow, the vulture, and the hawk or the falcon.

00;15;01;10 - 00;15;32;09
Unknown
Right? The primary one, primary clan sigil is the crow, but those other two come in and reveal knowledge. Okay, so going back to seeing how your people connected to spirit will help you, right? Looking at how the indigenous today, those that still say no, I I'm indigenous to such such land, looking at their practices that have been documented and shared.

00;15;32;09 - 00;15;56;01
Unknown
Right. And how why they're so adamant and so fierce about protecting the land. Because the land is an ancestor. The sea, the seas an ancestor. The blue whales, an ancestor to people, to some of the people in, the Pacific Islands, the blue whales. You might think it's just a whale. Yeah, it's a bloody ancestor that will help those people migrate shapes guided by them.

00;15;56;01 - 00;16;18;15
Unknown
If you do not watch Moana. Okay, just as a great movie, a very simple, very simplistic way of demonstrating this is what I'm talking about. Okay? And every time I watch the first movie and I always cry, I try not to, but I do. I oh yeah, I do, but and that's, that's the point that that I'm trying to get to.

00;16;18;15 - 00;16;49;23
Unknown
It's you preventing yourself from going beyond your crazy genocidal uncle. It's causing more harm and retraumatizing yourself than necessary. Right? To heal. You need to release your attachment to that. Start with relearning. Redefining what ancestors, what that term means. It's so much more than what you've been conditioned to believe in the patriarchal paradigm. Yes. Thank you for saying that.

00;16;49;23 - 00;17;11;15
Unknown
I think this is really an important, you know, start for people that that are trying to figure this out and learn about these parts of themselves. I mean, if you go back far enough, we're all connected in some way. And and I think that's that's a really cool thing. Really. So yeah. Let's I want to ask you about, like, your personal dream stories and just, you know, your journey, like you mentioned that, you know, your ancestral mother's gave you your name.

00;17;11;15 - 00;17;33;22
Unknown
And how did that come to you? What what was that signifying in your journey? Ooh. So I was c 2011 was when they came to me and were very adamant, you know, the birth name that your mother gave you. That's not your name. And I'm like, and there's nothing wrong with that because I started to feel and I think this is important for me to understand.

00;17;33;22 - 00;17;54;17
Unknown
Like I started to feel disconnected from the name that she put on my birth certificate, even though I went and I did. Etymology. What's the origins of this name? Spiritually speaking, it ties back into the whole path, but it was a French name, an English name, an Irish derivative of a name. But I started to feel disconnected to that.

00;17;54;17 - 00;18;25;25
Unknown
So to feel small, I started to feel suffocated. And the thing with names is that names define that which is named. Right names define things, and the person that does the naming controls or has power over or greatly influences that which is named influences your behavior, your identity, everything about you. So names are very powerful. Your ancient ancestors knew that, people tend to have forgotten about that.

00;18;26;02 - 00;18;54;00
Unknown
So in 2011, I was an English teacher in China, and I was going by my middle name at that time because it was easy. It was easiest for non-English speakers to to pronounce, but for me, it felt like the energy from my colonized name was losing its effect. It wasn't having that effect. Like, I felt like there's got to be more to me than than this, you know?

00;18;54;07 - 00;19;34;05
Unknown
And so I, I started to, I got sick in China because there's polluted. I was in Shanghai and I'm G6 deficient. So what that means is I don't have the enzyme G6, PD and my red blood cells like how most people do. And when I encounter certain, you know, certain other proteins or oxidative stress, when the red blood cells are supposed to carry nutrients, the things to the rest of your body, because I don't have that enzyme, my blood cells burst and they get destroyed faster than my body can remake them if I encounter a trigger.

00;19;34;05 - 00;19;56;13
Unknown
And air pollutants is a trigger. So I was sick the whole time, and the company that I was working for, I was working for Disney and Disney English, actually, and it was stressful. It was stressful. So you got a stressful living environment and a stressful working environment. Stress is the number one trigger for a lot of illnesses. And so I was so sick and it got to a point where I just didn't understand anything.

00;19;56;17 - 00;20;25;04
Unknown
I was like, what am I doing here? I was having that quarter life crisis, if you will, and the dreams during that time were so intense. I took my 14 day vacation at the same time, and I was flagged as a flight risk because I did that, but I, I needed that, and during that time, I was remembering a lot of my traditional lot of lineage, of lot of why I came back here.

00;20;25;04 - 00;20;45;19
Unknown
And I was just like, what is going like? Am I going crazy? Like, what? What is this? And then they just said, during this, your your name has to change. Your name has to define who you are. What we're showing you is who you are. And this old name is not who you are. It's. I remember with Alaya it, it was it was weird.

00;20;45;19 - 00;21;03;22
Unknown
I was like, I just kept it was just like this pulsating energy in my head. And I was just like, what? What? What do you would you guiding me to being guided to a lotus? And I was like, looking at the Sanskrit word for it. And I was Kamala and I was like, no, but that's that's not this doesn't feel like I'm like, tell me what the name is.

00;21;03;24 - 00;21;25;13
Unknown
It has to in there. Like it represents a realm like you need when your name is spoken. It has to elicit that space of calmness. It has to you have to create that realm of who we are in this particular lineage of the Queen of the Queen mothers. And then and it just we just heard a and I was like, what's a lion?

00;21;25;13 - 00;21;44;27
Unknown
And I researched that and I was like, do we have Indian ancestry? Because I don't want to walk around with, you know, with the name and not knowing clearly that, yes, indeed, that that I did have it and that was it revealed to me in the three years later. So I was like, okay, but I had already, you know, in 2012, I changed my name.

00;21;44;27 - 00;22;07;11
Unknown
They were telling me the translation of the name of like, your name has to represent this realm space. When it's spoken, it has to like almost immediately create that. So when I finally returned back to the US, they just kind of they just solidified it. And I was like, well, what about my last name? They're like, well, you descend from the mothers, you descend from us.

00;22;07;13 - 00;22;31;10
Unknown
And I was like primordial Mother, but which name? Like, I, that I don't know which name. Tell me which name. They said, don't you just use to honor your Irish ancestors? And I was like, wait a minute. Oh my gosh. Okay, okay. And but the beautiful thing about that is that that's how the clan mothers, the queen mothers, that is how they were named themselves.

00;22;31;10 - 00;22;52;17
Unknown
They were named after their root mothers. Right. which is a deity. People call it a goddess, but that's not even it, because their ancestors, they're not something that you worship. They're who you are. Right. So it started with that when they came to me and was like, nope, you got to change your name. This is why this is what you are.

00;22;52;20 - 00;23;30;20
Unknown
I got back to the US in 2012, recovered from being sick for so long, changed my name, legally, updated my birth certificate and that for me was like it felt good because then it felt like walking in the footsteps of my foremothers, right? Which is what they've been grooming me for since I was a child. Really, with being, to tapped in with this, remembering dreams and always thinking of the world and magic, we say children is just so connected to magic, you know that it gets gets beat out of them through education.

00;23;30;26 - 00;23;49;12
Unknown
But my mother, because you she herself maintain that connection. That's what they were. That that's what they were grooming me for. So that's, you know, that's how it got started for me, knowing when they came to me and say, you got to change your name. And I was like, what? Okay. But to what? And to why? Because this is who you are.

00;23;49;13 - 00;24;25;01
Unknown
This is what we need you to do. And as the first born in a matriarchal tradition, ancient matriarchal traditions, that's that's how it was. The first born carried that forth, carried that forward. So for me. The confidence in honoring my dreams began when I changed my name. Even though I started documenting I 17. It was in 2011. I don't remember how that was from somewhere in my early 30s.

00;24;25;01 - 00;24;51;28
Unknown
I think, that's when I was like, no, this is important because I'm having visions and they're coming to me in dreams and I'm remembering things and I do some research and oh my gosh, that's exactly what they said. That's crazy. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. It really seems like it marked like an important transition period for you. I really see like the name really does hold a lot of power.

00;24;51;28 - 00;25;25;29
Unknown
And it really, you know, contributes to who we are. So yeah I think that's so cool. what are some other like, really impactful cool, cool, like almost unbelievable dreams that you've had on the journey. So many I know early, like when people ask me my favorite dream, I'm like, I don't know, there's that right? I don't I don't have a favorite, but I've got I've got several, cheese.

00;25;26;02 - 00;26;04;08
Unknown
Okay. Well, there's there's one of the dreams that I just went back to revisit. that's directly connected to my dissertation, which is connected to what's happening on and, and, and I want to say that has also helped to clarify why I've struggled so much, being so dedicated to dreams. Yet the world around me not supporting that. And I and I think I want to highlight that for people too, because if you're studying lucid dreams, for me that's easy.

00;26;04;11 - 00;26;50;11
Unknown
I know for some people they're like, what do you mean it's easy? It's hard. Some where I stand, that's easy because it's where a lot of people are, are, engaged in. It's it's it's what neuroscience can study. it's what the Western paradigm can study. So it's easy and it's easier to talk about. It's easy to develop techniques and groups to talk about because that's the entry level into remembering your dreams and gaining confidence in yourself because, you know, if you're able to change a dream that's like, whoa, if I can change certain ways of moving in the world, if I can do that in my dream.

00;26;50;11 - 00;27;12;11
Unknown
So I do want to preface it by saying, even though I was raised with it, it's like breathing air. It has been difficult, but it has also inspired people that have had to kind, you know, keep quiet about it. And they're like, oh my gosh, I've had dreams like that. But all I find are I lost dreams, you know what I mean?

00;27;12;11 - 00;27;48;14
Unknown
So just to say I've had to dance between worlds, dance a little bit and, you know, the general waking stay in and dance in the more mystic state and travel within that. Because, though the world is changing, it's it has not been easy. You know, ancestral work isn't supposed to be easy. but I, I hope that we can get to a point where the world says, yes, this is very important.

00;27;48;14 - 00;28;16;11
Unknown
Let's start. Let's all start engaging it because it will help us, pave the way forward. So this particular dream, it's called the infrastructure. And. The wonderful thing about it is I had this dream in I think it was 2015.

00;28;16;13 - 00;28;49;04
Unknown
And the thing is the, the beautiful thing about these dreams is I would have them, but I won't know. I won't know when they're relevant. You know what I mean? Like, is this for now or is this for later in the future? Nowadays. And I've been able to to track it like I've been able to see, okay, this is going to happen in about two weeks or this is like about, you know, nine days ahead or you know what I mean?

00;28;49;04 - 00;29;27;03
Unknown
But this particular dream was 2013, actually, not 2015. So that's what, 12 years ago. January 13th and it's I'm not going to read it word for word simply because parts of it is really graphic. And I don't want to traumatize 30, but so the, the first part of it talks about an avatar of a system. So think of like a computer system.

00;29;27;05 - 00;30;02;14
Unknown
and so in this dream. I'm, I'm starting a job. I have this job in the system. But then some time later, the job, they they cut me loose. there was another company that was taking over, so I. My presence wasn't necessary. and so one of the mothers, you know, ancient ancestor mother, she comes through in the dream and she's saying the infrastructure is falling apart.

00;30;02;17 - 00;30;27;15
Unknown
And as she said that, again, this avatar of this particular, you know, like the computer avatar, not the high spiritual being avatar, appeared out of out of the infrastructure. So it was a program representative and it was in a male form. and so she the mother in the dream, she kind of pulled me aside, for me to watch things play out.

00;30;27;15 - 00;31;02;14
Unknown
But of course, I tried to attack it, like how you play a video game. I tried to attack it. that didn't work. So she again pulled me aside and just said to just watch because she wanted me to watch the nature of the, of this program. Another woman within the same program comes in, and she kind of hesitates to go towards the avatar with an avatar, pulls her to him, and they get engaged in intimacy.

00;31;02;16 - 00;31;32;23
Unknown
but the avatar itself was very barbaric and savage, so let's just put it that way. And as I watched in horror, the avatar behaved in a way that it felt it was most natural. So it was very destructive. and the woman did not survive the encounter. So as I watched her pass on, I saw her soul kind of just break free from that and walk away freely.

00;31;32;25 - 00;31;40;03
Unknown
And then the dream shifted to where?

00;31;40;06 - 00;32;11;29
Unknown
I ended up in this new infrastructure. So I'll read, read it, work for it. From there. the woman that gave me notice earlier appeared and transported me to a new infrastructure. She said that she needed me to hide within and amongst the people participating in the new infrastructure. The people there weren't quite aware of the true nature of this new infrastructure, and didn't know how to properly use its magic.

00;32;12;01 - 00;32;46;29
Unknown
It was a living infrastructure, aware of itself and the people utilizing it, unlike the old one where men were in control. Yet destructive. I watched the activities that took place. It was like a translucent, translucent highway that led to a massive mainframe structure that was the city. The core of the infrastructure. There were key points along the highway where certain individuals were acting as agents who monitored the flow of traffic, which consisted of people coming in from the old infrastructure into the new one.

00;32;47;02 - 00;33;09;15
Unknown
They were mostly in cryo stasis in pods, and were transported just beneath the surface of the highway to the city center. Only a very few people were awake and able to travel on the surface. The woman guide asked me to remain in this new infrastructure, yet hidden to blend in until it was time to show people how to use the magic of the infrastructure.

00;33;09;18 - 00;33;38;13
Unknown
She suggested I take a job in the role of a caregiver for the time being, to blend in next, and that the train well and that that's the thing. So 2013, of course, I'm like, whoa, like, what is this dream talking about? 2013 where was I? I guess I didn't have a job anymore. And I was with my mom and we were both kind of floating in and limbo trying to figure out what we both wanted to do.

00;33;38;16 - 00;34;10;07
Unknown
But the avatar and the old infrastructure, that's our society today. That is exactly what it is. And for the woman that, well, me in trying to attack it, that just and not and it not working as if I'm playing video game and it's not working. That I would say, were my efforts at trying to try to attack the main system and it's not working.

00;34;10;11 - 00;34;50;26
Unknown
So me going, trying to go on about, talking about the dreams and the ways of I've been talking about in the past 12 years now, a director approach didn't work, hasn't worked, still isn't working. So, you know, so just seeing that. And then, of course, the woman that, you know, kind of didn't know how to interact with the, with the, with the system, and then the way that it eventually, analyzed her, you look at how the infrastructure treats women, right.

00;34;50;29 - 00;35;20;19
Unknown
And at how with her trying to be engaged with that, any attempts at trying to at each level, is not it doesn't help her existence because in the end, she ends up passing on. and so in order to be able to, to be free from that, you know, you can't stay within that system. You have to move beyond that system.

00;35;20;22 - 00;36;00;18
Unknown
And me being told, look, you need to be in this new and new, you know, in the new infrastructure. I remember seeing it. It's just like these translucent ways of moving and connecting with the energy of it. Like it was very conscious and just recalling my experience at the Eaton Fire, Eaton Canyon Fire and Pasadena, it's like, yeah, connecting with this with the elements in such a way that you're able to know where to be, when to be there and how to be there.

00;36;00;21 - 00;36;39;13
Unknown
That's moving from the old into the new, right? And so when seeing people moving, being moved and crowd spaces, that's that's a symbolism of that. There are a lot of people still asleep being pushed into this new system. Right. They're still asleep. and there are these beings watching, I guess, higher energies watching who's coming through, who's capable of engaging this, these, this new infrastructure when it when it comes to be, but engaging its magic in the appropriate way, engaging it's power and it's energy in the appropriate way.

00;36;39;16 - 00;37;06;02
Unknown
And then for the woman guides tell me she's like, you need to take a take a caregiver role until it's time for you to show people how to utilize, this magic in this new space. And the caregiving role, the Queen mothers, usually they take that role. So for the life of me, it took me 12 years to figure that out, right?

00;37;06;04 - 00;37;39;22
Unknown
Queen mothers, their cultural custodians, their wisdom keepers, they understand the nuance of and the importance of cultural continuity. They're the ones that perpetuate culture. They're the ones that perpetuate the knowledge. But it's the knowledge that acquires you. To be connected requires you to communicate. Come you with the Olympics. And when I say elements, it's not just air, fire, water, earth and ether.

00;37;39;24 - 00;38;08;16
Unknown
It's all aspects of it. Right? both the spirit realm and the manifest realm, they exist in the same space. And for queen mothers to act as caregivers, they're the ones that help to support people in the process of understanding. So of course, when she. So now I understand it, seeing as coming back to the continent and it's like, oh yeah, no, it's the Queen mother tradition you're supposed to be talking about, you know, helping people to relearn.

00;38;08;18 - 00;38;36;21
Unknown
I didn't know that 12 years ago. Right. So when people start to awaken out of cryo stasis, that's where I'm supposed to be to help them figure out. Well, how do we even do this? Okay, here's how you reconnect. Here's how you. Yes, I don't you know that. I mean, so. I totally want to put this will put this stream in the dissertation.

00;38;36;21 - 00;39;14;29
Unknown
I just haven't figured out how to weave it in yet, because I have to. Different. but that's going back to the stream recently has helped me to just release all of the frustration I've had with trying to create programs and communities around using dreams to help people understand where they're going, where they come from. Because that was me fighting the system head on.

00;39;15;01 - 00;39;39;02
Unknown
Instead of taking a more, you know, caregiver type. Be within the system, but not of it, you know? So that's that dream. That's cool. I love how like the dream planted the seed over a decade ago, and you've just been figuring it out this whole time. That's really cool. And the imagery there, like it could be a whole movie plot on its.

00;39;39;05 - 00;40;15;09
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could, it totally could. And that's, that's part of what I want to do actually. That's, that's the, the mothers, they were like, yeah, you're going to make documentaries of the dreams. And I'm like, when I'm thinking how I to have these that exactly. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. It's like so that kind of is a cool bridge to this, you know, question I was going to ask you about like it's I mean, it's no secret that today's society and leadership structured is very much rooted in patriarchal systems.

00;40;15;09 - 00;40;42;14
Unknown
Right. And that this matriarchal leadership really brings, like this wisdom, this deep listening and healing and emotional intelligence, you know, that could really create stronger communities. So how do you think, like matriarchal wisdom is going to integrate nowadays into like a different approach? Like what shifts can we see if it's like embraced by society? Yeah. First is clarifying what a matriarchy is and what it's not.

00;40;42;16 - 00;41;28;14
Unknown
because a lot of people, scholars, even when they hear matriarchy, they think in their dualistic mind. It's the opposite of patriarchy. Women are in control over men. Nobody has rights, are men, or lose their rights. You have no idea how many conversations I've seen and how many conversations I've been in, but never I don't get into arguments about it because the bottom line is, if you have not done an honest inquiry into the oldest form of matriarchy and the cultures that emerge from it, then you can't say that it's the exact opposite of patriarchy.

00;41;28;17 - 00;42;00;04
Unknown
And if you don't know what to look for, then you can't say that you know what matriarchy is because you don't. And if you've chosen not to speak to people, raise in matriarchal, not just matrilineal, matriarchal traditions, and you have no say whatsoever. So what is a matriarchy? Matri means mother. It's, you know that the root word for matriarchal matri, Latin for mother, arche, Greek.

00;42;00;09 - 00;42;28;18
Unknown
Now we're going to go back to the very earliest. So this is why etymology and education is wonderful. Okay. etymology? Yes. It tracks the you know, how the how words have been used across time. We want to get to the very first use of that word. Arche means beginning. Bow wow. Mother beginning. mother origin. Guess what?

00;42;28;21 - 00;42;50;02
Unknown
We all come from others, right? So now that we've got that out of the way, I highly suggest, people look into that. And there is a book, and I don't have it with me here. It's. It's in my room, but there's a book that I recommend. People invest in it and read about it because she's a German scholar, but she did that.

00;42;50;02 - 00;43;12;15
Unknown
She did the work, she read and research and defined it and call that all these scholars like you, you're not working hard enough because you are too attached, too much rakhi. So ancient matriarchy. And we're going to look at the oldest one, the continent that we now call Africa. Okay. Some of the oldest matriarchy is in the world.

00;43;12;17 - 00;43;36;28
Unknown
We're coal stewards, coal stewardship ships. It wasn't just the clan mother that gave birth to a people, gave birth to a nation and gave birth to an identity. She or she had the wisdom and the knowledge from the other side because she could give birth.

00;43;37;01 - 00;44;09;02
Unknown
To show people how to maintain connection. How to work together, right? Mothers. Originally, in its original sense, mothers are nurturing. Mothers ensure everybody gets fed. Mothers ensure everybody gets taken care of. Mothers ensure everybody is listened to, not just the physical people, but the spirit people as well. Right? Because without your connection to spirit, there nothing can happen in the manifest room.

00;44;09;02 - 00;44;33;21
Unknown
And that is how you come into the world. Spirit first, physical, second. So what can we learn from case? We learn partnership a balance in partnership. Right. the mothers in the past, and I'm going to use the a cons as an example of the A cons or a people. that settled in the West, in West Africa.

00;44;33;24 - 00;44;55;27
Unknown
The particular branch family, one of the original self from one of the original seven that I'm connected to. They're rooted in their origins, rooted in the Nile Valley. So, to use them as an example, because it's a part of my ancestry. The mother's.

00;44;55;29 - 00;45;25;20
Unknown
Not ruled, but the mothers worked with a male counterpart, and sometimes it could be her own son. Or it could be her nephew. Right. And she is the one that placed him in that position. Right. And it was usually because she herself was descended from the root ancestor of a deified, deity. She herself was an embodiment of that.

00;45;25;22 - 00;45;55;23
Unknown
So as an embodiment of divinity that has knowledge on how to maintain balance, how the physical world can maintain its balance with the spirit realm, she has that knowledge. She works on all of the things. Spiritually speaking, she doesn't have time really, to maintain other relations in the physical space. So she delegates. She delegates that to her sons or her nephews.

00;45;55;26 - 00;46;37;04
Unknown
That's within her natural natural line. Because again, that embodiment of divinity has the knowledge of how to keep balance. So he took care of all things male related, right? Because mothers will know things up to a certain point. And it's like, okay, well that's your as your male thing. I don't know all the things about that, but your, you know, your fathers and your uncles will, and she took care of all things related to women as well as continue to be a guide, because one of the things the mothers have said to me is the minds of men are disconnected from the wombs of their mothers, so their knowledge and wisdom is constantly being

00;46;37;04 - 00;47;13;18
Unknown
reinforced, reinforced by her, right? Yes. He's on the stool. But at the same time, she's guiding him to ensure that he does so in balance. Right. And there are some there are some occasions where she had to hold both roles, and she she has the blessings to do so. She can hold both roles giving birth, caring for, making sure women understood themselves as women and the potential right, and then also guiding, you know, her, her male relatives.

00;47;13;18 - 00;47;43;10
Unknown
And if there was no worthy male relative because of character, character is important. She did both of course she delegated. She did both. So what can we learn? what it means to nurture. Not from your ego, but for the sake of balance, equilibrium and harmony. How do we work together as people and with the spirit realm, the elements, the land?

00;47;43;13 - 00;48;14;06
Unknown
Right. Knowing that if there's discord within yourself and within your relationships to people, there's going to be discord in relationship to the land, to the elements. Right? Is your mind connected to that? That source or origin to to the womb of your mother? Not just your birth mother, but your divine mother? This is do you have that connection so that she can continue to to nourish you and that's what it's about.

00;48;14;08 - 00;48;46;02
Unknown
You know, those images of the Madonna and child, the mother and child constantly suckling. That's what that that's not Chiaki right there. It's nurturing. It's nurturing. Can you constantly, consistently nurture yourself, your relationships between people and your relationships to the animal and plant realm and spirit realm? Can you do that? That's necessary. That's that. And that's what the the call back, that's what we're being called back to.

00;48;46;02 - 00;49;08;13
Unknown
It's not go back into the past, you know, not not mean. Yeah. There are some things that you can have to let go of. But going it's not going back to an oppressive past. It's going back to the past to receive the knowledge that we need to build a better future. Right. How do we utilize that? No.

00;49;08;15 - 00;49;37;05
Unknown
learning how. Yeah, learning how to be in right relationship. Right? In the ways that a mother nurtures her child. I think that is valuable to all of us today. Yeah. It's powerful. I mean, that that maternal energy is like it's a portal. It's interdimensional energy that has a lot of power that applies to everybody. You know, like you said, we all come from mothers.

00;49;37;07 - 00;50;19;28
Unknown
And, Yeah, I think it's it's important. I think although this is, you know, not necessarily scientific interest right now. I think that it's bridging science, spirituality, art, all of these different perspectives. so yeah, I think I think it's really cool. you know, and it's important stuff to talk about. It is and I think one of the, a part of, part of the process of healing for a lot of people, too, is when, you know, when I talk about the mothers or matriarchy and I try to ease their anxiety and they hear that they're like, I don't have a good relationship to my mother.

00;50;19;28 - 00;50;54;01
Unknown
I'm like, yeah, okay, that's valid. That's totally valid. But I'm not talking about your mother. I'm talking about a concept. I'm talking about a consciousness. There is a consciousness that is of the mothers, that is mothering. When a woman becomes a mother, she changes. There's so much going on. There's a by a whole biochemical transformation, neurological shift. If she becomes something else, she's no longer just the woman you know, you understand?

00;50;54;01 - 00;51;26;14
Unknown
So it's taking the concept of mothering every nuanced layer of it and applying it to a global scale. It's not just about women making babies. No no no no no. See, that's that's very patriarchal, asymmetrical motherhood. And I'm not talking about patriarchal motherhood. I'm talking about the motherhood of matriarchy. It is action. Some of what, you know, the mothers have said to me, the motherhood of matriarchy, that's what we're talking about.

00;51;26;16 - 00;51;53;01
Unknown
Matriarchal motherhood, not patriarchal motherhood, you know, because to deny motherhood and patriarchy is that's it's not good. So at least I'm acknowledging that, yes, there are people that have really bad relationships to their mothers, but I'm talking about a consciousness. And if you're talking about elevating consciousness, all right, let's get to that higher space of being of understanding the importance of our interconnectedness.

00;51;53;03 - 00;52;15;15
Unknown
If you understand the process of becoming a mother, then you'll understand the process of creating a new world, of creating a community, because it's not just about creating it, it's about protecting it. It's about nurturing it. And yeah, even though people will say, well, men are the protectors and so too are women, when you know what I mean.

00;52;15;15 - 00;52;44;28
Unknown
Like you both, it's both and so how can we work together on the principles of nourished mothering, not patriarchal mothering? Okay, because there is a difference. And being able to connect back to that ancient knowledge, bridging it for today is so very important. But you have to you have to do the healing work there. That's that's the other thing.

00;52;44;28 - 00;53;34;18
Unknown
You can't see. You can't create from a place of trauma. You can't you can't create to a place of disconnect. You can't create a the new that you're hoping for. If you haven't done the healing work behind it. Because everything that you create from wherever you are is going to contain energy from that space. So if you're not in a space where you understand these higher concepts of of connection, anything, you create policy, it's lifestyle, ideology, identity, society, it's it's going to have elements of your psyche, of the disconnect in your spirit.

00;53;34;20 - 00;53;57;00
Unknown
And that's not what we're being asked to do. We're being asked to do both heal and create from that place of healing. Yeah, yeah. That's true. I think that whole collaborative aspect of it is really important, and I hope that people see that and really, you know, take this to heart, and start, you know, looking within and, applying that into society.

00;53;57;00 - 00;54;14;12
Unknown
So yeah, I really appreciate that. And the last thing I wanted to ask you about, and also I don't know if you had any other dreams to share, but I would love to hear them. But I was also curious, like, are you a lucid dreamer at all? And how does, like, lucidity kind of play into your your dreams?

00;54;14;15 - 00;54;44;28
Unknown
Well, I mean, with all of my dreams I am lucid. So it's just, you know, for me, it's like before I go to bed, it's it's like an automatic thing. I know I'm going to dream tonight like, I know, but I'm curious as to what I'll be dreaming about or if I'm really looking for information or knowledge. I'll put a prayer out there and I'm like, look, I know you guys take three days at least to give me a response, but I'd like for you to come and help me sort this out.

00;54;45;00 - 00;55;15;12
Unknown
Depending on the urgency, it could be that night. It could be three nights later. have I had lucid dreams? Like dreams where I can control and kind of shift and change? Yes, I've had those, and those are fun, because then it helps me to see I solved this problem within myself. Right? I'm no longer confrontational. I know how to to deal with conflict now, because I turned around and I faced the crazy person.

00;55;15;15 - 00;55;38;20
Unknown
but for me, it's it's a it's a constant. From the moment I wake up, I'm already preparing for my dream time. When I go to sleep, I'm already preparing for it. It's, Yeah, it's it's it's it's something that's always on. That's cool. Yeah. Same. That's why I'm always curious like that. Awareness. You know, like people that work a lot with their dreams, they tend to have more dream awareness.

00;55;38;20 - 00;55;59;11
Unknown
Even if you can't always control the dream, you can still like, be lucidly aware, you know, same with waking life. But yeah, that's, interesting. I feel like some people, are lucid in most or all of their dreams, which I think is an interesting concept. so yeah. And yeah, no, I know you said earlier, like, lucid dreaming is like the trendy thing that everyone's researching.

00;55;59;11 - 00;56;21;25
Unknown
And I think it's really cool. but I think, you know, all these things, they, they come together and they connect somehow and they open up all these different topics about dreams and, you know, wisdom and consciousness. so hopefully one thing leads to another. And people, you know, go deeper into the rabbit hole. That's what I want.

00;56;21;26 - 00;56;44;14
Unknown
People go deeper. Like we have to go deeper like it's it's great to be on the surface and to ride that wave like I go to the beach here and there's people surfing on the waves. That's great. But have you thought about taking a camera and just kind of getting in the water and then watching the waves? Oh, have you thought about that?

00;56;44;14 - 00;57;09;22
Unknown
You know what I mean. Just to give to give a different water for. Yeah. diving deeper into the dream space helps you to dive deeper into your spirit space into your connection to yourself, which then kind of triggers your ancestors, not just your crazy grandpa, but the ones in the distant past. Oh, look, they reached that level.

00;57;09;24 - 00;57;50;00
Unknown
Now let's go say something. Now let's go introduce ourselves. Because everything's a choice. Everybody has, you know, has that choice. and there are consequences to all of your choices, you know, be they good or bad. That's a value judgment for you to, to determine, to discern. But if you go deeper with the intention of connecting. And that's the other thing, I want to go deeper so I can heal and connect, because I want to know the ancestors, the plants, the trees, the flowers, the animals, the elements.

00;57;50;03 - 00;58;08;11
Unknown
And be clear with that. Like I want to know the ones I am connected to and the legacy that I'm supposed to be bringing forward. If I get to that level, you know, as opposed to I don't want to go that far because I had a crazy grand uncle and boom, boom, boom, boom, there's the block. All right.

00;58;08;13 - 00;58;37;12
Unknown
So to be able to go deeper, to able to see further, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And it's also understanding, you know, why your crazy uncle grandpa whatever is the way he is. You know what trauma is? Memories. And you know, experiences were passed on beyond generations. Like it really is about, you know, understanding it from that compassionate perspective and, and just going deeper than just your small circle and immediate, you know, ancestors.

00;58;37;14 - 00;59;05;05
Unknown
So that's I mean that and that also helps to reinforce the we're all connected thing. You know, if you can understand why this person repeated a trauma. Oh, just you becoming aware of that. That's healing because there's an awareness now that energy can flow through you. Becoming aware of it and realizing that it's been showing up in my family.

00;59;05;05 - 00;59;28;23
Unknown
I don't want to show. I don't want that to show up anymore. Are you saying that it's like we're not going to do these things anymore? So it yeah, it takes courage, but you gotta do it because you I don't want I don't want to be in another new space, a new society where people are still carrying on their stuff.

00;59;28;23 - 01;00;18;20
Unknown
No no no no no. Get out of your faces, please. You know what's happening? I think slowly but surely. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's awesome. Okay, cool. Well, is there anything else that, that you thought of sharing or bringing today that we hadn't touched on? Yeah. So this is, this is a little fun tidbit that I, that will also go into my dissertation and a much, much broader sense, at how in our connection, you could be on the other side of the world in a different culture, but both can dream very similar things, very, specific type of knowledge.

01;00;18;22 - 01;00;56;11
Unknown
Right. And that just kind of demonstrate that even though you may not be ancestrally direct bloodline connected to somebody, both of you can dream the same book pretty much. Right. and then depending on your conditioning expresses slightly different, but definitely it's in there. So, there's this late, priestess, the other tradition, South African tradition. Her name, was mama's.

01;00;56;11 - 01;01;39;09
Unknown
Okay. I don't know if you've heard of her, but she she written this the symbols. Right? And she utilized some of her ancestral knowledge to write write the book. What I find fascinating about this is that there's this short paragraph that talks about cycles. And I know everybody talks about cycles or seasonal cycles. There's life cycles, Earth cycles, sun cycles, cosmic cycles side a macrocosm into a microcosmic, expression and experience of cycles.

01;01;39;11 - 01;02;09;03
Unknown
Now, one thing that a lot of people don't take into consideration is if you're close to the equator, your seasonal cycles don't look the same as as you get further away. Now, the furthest away you are at the poles. The only similarities between the poles and the equator is that cold, seasonal cycle of just wind and snow versus a warm seasonal cycle of heat and rain.

01;02;09;05 - 01;02;53;05
Unknown
Right? But it's not for seasons. And most of us grew up before seasons. We automatically would think it's for seasons everywhere else. But no, that's not the case. Right? So it also depends on your position where you're located. Right? So when we talk about cycles we also need to understand our position. what cycle are we talking about and what's the viewpoint you know, so on page 23 and she's talking about these cycles, of the symbols which are oracular women, women of oracles, being born, reincarnated onto the planet.

01;02;53;05 - 01;03;24;18
Unknown
So I'll read a short excerpt of that, and then I'll read a dream that says something very similar, if off by 1 to 1000 years. So she says, the priestess hood of the symbols were even more conspicuous. They were a part of the divine cycle of procreation, preservation, death and renewal, which is rebirth, which is believed to take place every 600 or 6000 years.

01;03;24;20 - 01;03;41;27
Unknown
Okay. When did she write this? She published this, in 2007. But I bought this book in 2020.

01;03;41;29 - 01;03;46;29
Unknown
This is my one of my other journals.

01;03;47;02 - 01;04;20;28
Unknown
This is April 9th, 2011. So I was in China at this time, and this was a waking vision. Right? As I stepped out of the shower, an impression came to me. I saw a woman dressed in all white, sitting in a chair for a photo, and she was surrounded by women, her daughters and other women. What came to me, in addition to this flash of insight, was that she is an ancestor and a mother incarnate.

01;04;21;01 - 01;05;03;16
Unknown
This impression immediately took me to my maternal line. And then it came. Every five generations a mother is born or becomes incarnate. So five generations, if you think about it in a human sense, it could be 100 years, who knows? But mom is what they said 600 or 6000 years. For me, it was revealed, a mother incarnate. Like as I said before, a clan mother is the embodiment of one of the deified ancestral mothers, a divinity.

01;05;03;19 - 01;05;32;07
Unknown
And that's what the symbols represented. An embodiment of this particular divinity. And every 600 or 6000 years, according to her, according to her knowledge, that was passed down to her, they reincarnate with particular knowledge, and it could be during a time of proper preservation or a time of rebirth or time of procreation. And we're in the time of rebirth right now.

01;05;32;10 - 01;06;05;09
Unknown
And so, there are a couple of other dreams that I've had that have expanded upon it. So every five generations, is that five human generations or is that five however many generations in the divine time right, that a mother is born? And so it's the clan mother, the embodiment of the deified of the deity that represents that particular lineage.

01;06;05;12 - 01;06;31;07
Unknown
So, you know, when it comes to me trying, when it came to me and in 2011, of course, I was just like, what are they talking about? Every five human generations? No, that's not the case. It's a clan mother is born again, and she brings with her this matriarchal knowledge, the motherhood of matriarchy to assist with the shift that is happening.

01;06;31;09 - 01;06;56;04
Unknown
So if I'm going to calculate every five generations, I'm going to look at the youngest. Right. So you've got four. You goes so the fifth, you know what I mean. So if you're going to count each Yuga as a generation so every five generations. So at every every fifth turn would bring, bring us back to the beginning, would bring us back to the golden age, if we will.

01;06;56;04 - 01;07;22;17
Unknown
Golden age, which would be the age of connection. So just just to kind of give people like, hey, there are some things that I've been through, you know, that other people have been talking about like, hello. This is how we should be, you know, remember our ancient matriarchal past. We need these dreams. We need these ancestral dreams to help fill in the gaps.

01;07;22;20 - 01;07;50;25
Unknown
and also the people that live it. It's not just theoretical knowledge. We need to also live it, so that we can show people how to connect so that we can help people with reconnecting. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's amazing. I really appreciate you. You bringing that up because it's. Yeah, it's the cycles are relative. And, you know, time and space is kind of, you know, it's an illusion really.

01;07;50;25 - 01;08;13;12
Unknown
Like we have our own time and space. But beyond our physical realm, it's kind of relative to the position you're in. So I think that's that's a really important way to look at it. Yeah. Like I there's always there's like I've seen a lot of conversation around women in their cycles and their like if you're cycles, not this amount of days and there's something wrong and, and only something once a month.

01;08;13;14 - 01;08;37;29
Unknown
And my cycles were never like that. You know, I've tracked my cycles for about five years and like, literally tracking them to try to figure out why are my cycles left like this. And they come twice a month and certain times of the year, I don't understand. It's a cycle. There's a specific cycle in my tradition and it's like that for a very specific reason.

01;08;38;07 - 01;09;05;25
Unknown
So yes, your cycles are according to whatever energies you're connected to. Just because you are defined as a woman doesn't mean your your cycles are going to be like every single woman. You're women are not monoliths. There are some baseline basics and connect and similarities. Not even twins are the same. So women are not going to be exactly the same.

01;09;05;28 - 01;09;29;18
Unknown
What is that energetic connection like? How are like tell people what's your route? Womb, lineage? Mother? What is her knowledge? Because her knowledge is going to be different from my knowledge. Just the same with my mom. She's my mom, but her root lineage mother is different from mine, even though she's my mother. Right? So people are like, how can that be?

01;09;29;21 - 01;10;07;27
Unknown
For whatever reason, we decided to to come together for a specific reason. But different fruit lineages and there are some families where it's just the same, the same group, different different cycles, different times. So understanding your positioning and understanding, pre patriarchal references and and stories the knowledge before and then that's so very important. So you don't make the mistake of boxing yourself and everyone in boxes is very patriarchal structures.

01;10;07;27 - 01;10;30;07
Unknown
It's okay to have a structure but is there structure fluid. Is that structure. Those it bend like bamboo strong but bendy you know. So being aware of that is very important. Yeah, definitely. I mean I definitely have a lot to think about now. And yeah, I think as we evolve and we age, you know, our identity changes and we learn more about ourselves.

01;10;30;07 - 01;10;54;02
Unknown
So it's important not to be so, you know, rigid. I think that's a really good message. Yeah. Well yeah that and making it into whatever societal system we how do we do it that that's my biggest curiosity is like, how is this going to happen? And I guess it's it'll just unfold in the way it is and we'll be guided by dreams.

01;10;54;02 - 01;11;12;05
Unknown
And I'll just be like, all right. Yeah, well, you're doing the work. You're doing your part, as am I, you know, and so I, I really admire that. I think it's cool and I think it'll reach people. Maybe it's hard to see day by day the big changes. But, on a big scale, things are happening. I see it, yeah.

01;11;12;05 - 01;11;36;21
Unknown
And that's that's the that's the biggest thing. It's being able to see it and it's so hard. You know, you're not you're not really seeing it real time. But then later down the line you're like, oh my goodness. It was happening all this time. And I just didn't see it. So yeah. Having faith. Yeah I think we're in the early stages of a huge paradigm shift.

01;11;36;23 - 01;12;15;23
Unknown
So very much so. Yeah, that's that's right. Scary but cool. Exactly right. Which is it makes the resistance to change. understandable because it's scary. But without it, it's just stagnation and nothing thrives. And if the Earth itself is shifting and saying, no, I want to thrive, I think everything on the earth has to shift as well. You know, I liken it to I, I call it the guest house metaphor.

01;12;15;23 - 01;12;42;11
Unknown
I don't know if I shared it with you. imagine being invited to somebody's estate. So you've got this beautiful house, and then you've got smaller guest houses, you've got these beautiful gardens and some woods in the back, and some guests come over. You're invited to stay for a short period of time and first you overstay your welcome.

01;12;42;11 - 01;13;03;04
Unknown
And the owner of the, you know, the person that lives there is like, okay, well, maybe we can we can work something out and you contribute a little bit and then all of a sudden you start knocking things over. You start demanding the, the host, your host to do things for you, or you just take it and do it yourself.

01;13;03;04 - 01;13;19;04
Unknown
And the host keeps asking you, can you please stop? You know, can you please change your ways? And the host turns to your friends that you brought and some of your friends are like, nah, we're not going to listen to you. We to do what we want. We're going to change the color of the house. We're going to do some some renovation.

01;13;19;08 - 01;13;59;05
Unknown
You want to go outside and poop in your garden and you know, do whatever we want to do. And you have some other people that are like, no, we should actually listen because this is not our house, is not our house. And you get to a point where, you know, as, as the owner of the house, you get to a point where you have to decide, well, am I going to kick you out or are you going to change if you, you know, you really want to be here and if if people, you know, your guests are just still being rowdy, then you have every right to have them removed from your property.

01;13;59;09 - 01;14;20;27
Unknown
Every right suddenly move from your space. so when I tell people that, I'm like, what would you do? You're like, yeah, no, they would have to go that bottom line, like, you're out, I get you out. so then I say, okay, now flip it, it's the Earth, and you're the guest. It's the earth, the humanity's this.

01;14;21;00 - 01;14;48;15
Unknown
Now, what do you think should happen? And they're like, I see what you did there. I'm like, yeah, course. But really, what do you think the Earth should do? Right? Because when you really look at it, humanity needs the earth. The Earth doesn't need humanity. And a great example that we got was 2020.

01;14;48;18 - 01;15;16;26
Unknown
Yeah. And the world stood still for a few months. What happened? Yeah. Big reality check. Yeah, exactly. So it's. Come on, you know, you need to shift gears at the speed of the Earth, because, again, you know, the Earth is going to do what it does as humanity willing to move with it or not. Yeah. That's I mean, that's a great, great metaphor.

01;15;16;26 - 01;15;42;04
Unknown
Hopefully we can see the impact that we're having and treat our oldest ancestor the Earth. You know, all of this physical ancestor. Treat it a little bit better than we've been hopefully. Yeah, hopefully. Because then, you know, humanity is going to get a lot of eviction notices and yeah. Yeah. Well that's awesome. Well this has been awesome. A lot to think about.

01;15;42;04 - 01;16;12;03
Unknown
Where can people find you if they want to connect or learn more and find out more about what you do? Oh, okay. So, I have a website, House of Armor talk. and it's House of ama.org, all together, no hyphens. I'm currently reading doing a lot on, on the website, but I have a link section and there are a couple of YouTube videos that I've put up.

01;16;12;03 - 01;16;38;06
Unknown
I'll be I'll be putting up more, and some other I think there are a couple of other podcasts that I have put up, so you can read. You can watch, I'm on Threads and Instagram, same same handle, House of armor, and I, I talk a lot about the research and the things that I'm doing on threads, more so on the Instagram.

01;16;38;08 - 01;17;07;16
Unknown
and if you want it to connect directly, just, you know, hit the contact me and send me an email. And, you know, hopefully there we can connect. I'm again I'm updating the website. put the Worcester, the Calendly. There you go. The calendar thing. So it's just, you know, I'm doing because I'm doing so much. It's like as I write, as I rewrite my dissertation, then I jump onto the website and do edits.

01;17;07;16 - 01;17;25;14
Unknown
But for now, you can find me on social media a little bit on YouTube. I'm getting back up to it. yeah. Send me an email. Take it from there. Yeah, I'll include all your links. And yeah, I do everything too. So I know it's hard to juggle all the things and social media like it's. Yeah, it's so annoying, but yeah, but part of it.

01;17;25;14 - 01;17;46;05
Unknown
Yeah. So that's cool. And when you finish your dissertation, were you planning on publish it or people think we can read it or. Oh yes. So it's it, it will be published. I want people to it. The mothers want people to read it and watch it. The documentary as well. It's not going to be, behind a paywall.

01;17;46;05 - 01;18;08;05
Unknown
It'll be up on YouTube and all what other Vimeo as well as best I can, so that it can stay accessible because that's that's the whole that's the whole point. I didn't even think about doing it. That commentary, the mother said, do a documentary and some of the footage that I've got give like, oh my God, that's so beautiful.

01;18;08;08 - 01;18;31;18
Unknown
And so, yes, I thought I'd be finished with everything this semester, but since I've been here, I'm just like, I need one more semester to just put it all together. So definitely by the end of summer at all, though, how you'll see it. We announce and I'm finally done. But I want to I want to finally get it on with.

01;18;31;18 - 01;18;55;27
Unknown
But yeah, people have been asking, can we can we read it? Is it going to be public? Yes. Is is not this is not the behind the paywall for academics only? No, this is for both. This is for the whole world I love that. Yeah that's great. Yes. No gatekeeping over here. Oh, gatekeeping that especially when we need you know, we need the knowledge and and the know how like how do we do it like.

01;18;55;27 - 01;19;14;12
Unknown
Well people that are doing it but struggling to to, you know, for that validation. Am I doing it right. Like is it supposed to look like this? But you know, it's like I've had people come to me and say, I watch that. I listen to that podcast and it validates what I was feeling, but I didn't have any reference points for it.

01;19;14;15 - 01;19;37;29
Unknown
I didn't know what to do with it. So that's what the dissertation aims to do. To be that point of reference. And an example. Awesome. I'm excited for it. Well, I will definitely update the episode when it comes out with all the links. But you know, for now, people can just follow along in your journey. And yeah, I'll let you know once this gets published in the next couple weeks.

01;19;38;02 - 01;20;03;12
Unknown
Yeah, that sounds good. I'm excited to. Thanks for chatting. It's it's been really nice, just, you know, getting to know you a little bit more personally. Thank you for the invitation. I, I try to get on these. Get on these as best as, as many as I can, as best as I can, time permitting. Because again, with that dream, me trying to do it head on, I'm sorry.

01;20;03;15 - 01;20;37;01
Unknown
but when you're talking about something, that go on with Jordy doesn't necessarily engage him right? Where? A lot of people's most of the world's mine. People's minds have been so colonized that they've been so disconnected from deeper engagement of dream work. It's hard to have that conversation, because then people think you're talking about lucid dreams and it's like, no, that's that.

01;20;37;01 - 01;20;57;25
Unknown
I'm talking about where's the space? And it's like, well, you got to create it. And you try to create that space and you meet a lot of resistance by trying to do it by myself. It doesn't work. So yeah, definitely it takes a whole a whole collaboration, a whole society to really, you know, see it through. So it does.

01;20;57;27 - 01;21;09;03
Unknown
I think that's awesome.