The Measured Golf Podcast
With so many amazing things happening in the Measured Golf Community, we have decided to start a podcast to discuss all of the amazing things that we are seeing have a positive impact on our athletes. Whether it be Ground Reaction Forces, Golf Biomechanics, or strategies for making the most out of your limited practice time, we hope that this podcast becomes a resource for you to finally become the player you know you can be!
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The Measured Golf Podcast
From Being Right to Getting It Right: Thank You For The Support
Have you ever wondered what it takes to be recognized as one of Golf Digest's Best Young Teachers? This solo episode of the Measured Golf Podcast gives you an inside look at my personal journey to earning that accolade. Embarking on this path wasn't easy, especially running Measured Golf, an independent facility without the luxury of a built-in customer base. The unwavering support of my wife, Buffy, and the collaborative push from my business partner, Paul, and trusted advisor, Aram Kushigian, have been essential in overcoming these challenges. Their belief and partnership have allowed me to focus on what I love most—coaching golf and making the sport accessible to everyone.
Rediscovering my passion for coaching has been a journey fueled by continuous learning and teamwork. I share how collaborating with industry professionals like Aram Kushigian from Smash Factor Performance has elevated our approach, aligning strategies to enhance clients' physical and golf skills. This episode also touches on the importance of understanding human biomechanics and how our offseason in Michigan serves as the perfect opportunity for players to grow and prepare. My unexpected partnership with Aram, forged amidst the pandemic, further exemplifies the power of building strong relationships within the golf community.
Transitioning from a prestigious career to follow my passion for golf coaching was a leap of faith, but it has been worth every risk. The financial strain of acquiring advanced tools like force plates and the quest for more affordable coaching resources highlight the challenges faced by coaches today. Join me as I express gratitude to all who've been part of this journey, and reflect on our shared mission to grow this incredible game by breaking down barriers and fostering enjoyment for all.
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Measured Golf Podcast. It's been a great season so far. I believe we are now on episode five and we've had four amazing guests to date. And this week I'm actually going to be going solo for the first time in quite some time and, to be honest, it's so much more fun when we do have guests onto the podcast because it becomes much more conversational, and I think that as a listener it's always better to kind of be the fly on the wall in a conversation than it is to feel like somebody's talking at you. So that's why we like to do the guest. It makes a little more fun and, I think, also makes quote unquote better content for you, the listener. So, with that being said, this week going solo, one of the biggest reasons that I wanted to kind of have a solo episode was I was fortunate enough to be named on the Golf Digest Best Young Teachers list and I wanted to spend a little bit of time kind of thanking the appropriate people that needed to be thanked. And I'm not going to spend the entire episode just thanking people because that would be terrible for people listening, but I do want to spend a couple of minutes and maybe share a little bit, uh, of my story and how we got here in the process.
Speaker 1:But you know, it's tough to do these things, uh, in terms of have a small business and work for yourself. Um, and the thing that's kind of interesting, and if you don't, if you've never been to measured golf, you may be unaware of this, but measured golf is a standalone facility, meaning that we don't, uh, align with a golf course or a driving range or anything like that, so we don't have natural foot traffic, we don't have a customer base that's built in for us, like at a country club where there's membership that's looking to do things at the club. Uh, people come to us because, you know, we help them play better golf and even if, uh, you know, even if they don't play the best of golf, they're playing better golf. And that's always relative to the individual. And that's what I think measured golf does really well is we try to take everything as an individual case.
Speaker 1:But you know the the route we've taken and being independent and not just kind of doing what's been done before, um has been, it's been a struggle at times to be perfectly honest and for us to, you know, kind of finally see some recognition from the industry. Uh, it makes, makes you feel good, makes you feel proud, makes you feel like you're being recognized for your hard work. So I just really want to make it clear that you know there are just as many people left off the list that are put on the list, that are equally qualified and should be on the list and do amazing work day in and day out. And you know I've been definitely critical of the list in the past and you know I don't think they're perfect and I don't think any list could be perfect. So I think you have to kind of take the best approximation and I know that they definitely did a little more thorough searches here. They've added excuse me, they've added quite a few more names. It's not just 40 under 40. I think there's, you know, 150, some 159 maybe on the young teacher list. So it's a little more broad in scope. But I think that that kind of speaks to the growth of the game and how many people are new to the game that have recently joined because of, you know, the COVID golf wave or whatever you want to call it. But I think that there's a lot of people out there that are coaching golf in a very meaningful and significant way for their clients and it's a bummer that they go unnoticed.
Speaker 1:But, you know, this year was our chance to go noticed and it feels great and I'm super appreciative because, for me, I'm just doing what I do without, you know, daily thought about. You know what does this mean? Am I going to get recognized? Am I going to, you know, be perceived in my industry as being good at my job? You know I don't think about those things on a daily basis, but when something like this happens, you kind of sit back for a moment and think about how you got here. And it's just, you know, for me got here, and it's just, you know, for me it's. It's really been about learning how to be part of a team. And there's an incredible team around me.
Speaker 1:Uh, my wife, uh, buffy is amazing. She's a great partner. I can't say I mean I could spend, you know, a whole season talking about how great I think she is. Um, but she knows that and I try to tell her frequently. But you know, you gotta have somebody who believes in the dream with you. And when I came home one day and was like, hey, I think I want to do this full time and I want to try to be the best version of a golf coach that I can possibly be. You know she never once asked me about the mortgage or anything. She just was like, all right, babe, let's, let's do what we got to do. And you know, for us it was making a big sacrifice, cashing in a 401k and kind of like committing myself to learning as much as I could about the golf swing and ballistics and the human anatomy and biomechanics and all all these crazy things that I've learned along the way. But you know she was right there supporting me and most of the time and still, you know, most of most of what we live off of is is what she brings to the table. So I'm just super, super appreciative of her in every way and would be remiss if I didn't talk about her because she's kind of the silent partner to Measured Golf and she really helps keep me motivated and keeps me moving forward and I love her for that.
Speaker 1:So, speaking of people, I love my business partner, my actual business partner, paul. We see his wife Randy, we see. You know I literally would not be in business without those people. I just wouldn't like I had a bad business relationship, slash partner in the beginning. That didn't work out well and literally at the end of that measured golf was pretty much financially insolvent.
Speaker 1:And what they did was they, you know, kind of helped me pick up the pieces and, more importantly, helped me find my confidence and get back to chasing that dream that I talked about, kind of telling my wife about uh, which was, hey, I just I want to get you know as good as I can be at helping people play better golf and you know they really, you know Paul has been, you know, a client of mine for several years but you know Paul really sees that vision, uh, and he's seen the success stories and he's seen the development and the growth and now the recognition. And you know he was a very early investor in me and I, you know, I just really appreciate having a business partner that is willing to play the long game and is willing to kind of see the vision and let me kind of learn what I have to learn to continue to grow, kind of learn what I have to learn to continue to grow, because it's that's really what it's about is, if you're going to be a coach, you know you can never stop learning and the thing that I love so much about working with young people is that they kind of force you into learning and staying a little more current and trying to keep up with them a little bit. So you know, I'm super, super super thankful for Paul Brandy and, you know, working, having them believe in me enough to where I can go out and work with young people who motivate me to get better because they ask better questions, work with young people who motivate me to get better because they ask better questions. You know, there's no doubt these young people have access to more information early on and, believe it or not, they they don't just sit on TikTok all day.
Speaker 1:You know, some of these high achieving young people, you know, are going to do some research and look into some of the topics that we discuss in the course of a golf lesson to come back with some pretty excellent questions. So you got to be prepared, you've you've got to uh, you got to stay up with it, and that's really been kind of what I've tried to do is really educate myself thoroughly on the actual subject matter and not just looking at it from a golf perspective, but looking at it from a uh, you know, biomechanics human level. Uh, what do human beings do? What can human beings do? Um, not just confining it to what have people done in the past. Um, you know, I I just think that there's nothing wrong with studying and understanding what golfers from the past did. However, we have to realize that that doesn't mean that's the best we can do as a species, and that's kind of how I like to think, and I would like to create more tiger woods and not have it be to where one person was so much better. But how do we make the next tiger? And, and how do we even try to at some point go farther than that? So those are like the questions that really kind of keep me up and inspire me and keep me going. Uh, but it takes, like I said, a team.
Speaker 1:And you know Aram Kashigian, uh, from smash factor performance, our in-house trainer at measured golf. You know, dude, the success that guy has, whether it's, you know, baseball, golf, whatever sport uh, the impact that he has on young people and regular age people uh is pretty tremendous and talking about seeing wholesale changes in development and it's just, it's really impressive. And I tell people all the time, you know if, if you're working with me from a golf standpoint and you're also working with Aram on your body, you're kind of getting a double dose, because we both are kind of coaching motion and what we see from a hey, this person moves really well this way but is a little bit, you know, constrained this way, and that's the thing that we want to accentuate, because that's where we're going to see the gain for that person, not necessarily just continuing to do things they already do well or staying away from things they don't do well, because that's what an assessment tells us to do, away from things they don't do well, because that's what an assessment tells us to do. And the funny thing is is, you know, aram has a very thorough assessment, kind of process evaluation that he provides, as do I. But really, you know, we don't discuss those, discuss those with one another, even though we're treating the same client. Discuss those with one another even though we're treating the same client.
Speaker 1:You know, we both kind of see it how we see it and it's really awesome how often, you know, I see exactly what I need to see in the gym with him working with that client to help kind of accentuate what we're working on with their golf skill and he'll comment that the things that we're working on in the golf lesson really accentuate what that person needs to do because they don't move that way. Well, so we're seeing that there's a lot of transference of hey, we see it the same way, we're kind of going about it the same way, and I truly believe that that's because we don't have telepathy, but because we're actually trying to coach more of a motion instead of a position based uh, good or bad, quantitative kind of pitch rest golf swing or position based golf swing and we're more or less trying to help people move their most effective and efficient way possible and and doing that, it allows for them to create speed, it allows them to create club face awareness, it allows for a lot of good things to happen. But you know, I think, um, if you're really serious about improving you know, your golf game, you know we're heading into the offseason. Right now here in the state of Michigan it's like 65 degrees today, so fall is definitely kind of here or right around the corner. So you know a lot of people this time of year are putting up the golf clubs and you know they don't want to deal with the leaves and whatnot.
Speaker 1:But you know, for those of you who are really adamant about, hey, I want to do something to get better at golf next spring. I really think taking golf lessons when you're not playing and practicing regularly and you're really not doing anything fitness wise is not your best interest, and you're really not doing anything fitness wise is not your best interest. It's going to be a very difficult way to learn, uh, and even more difficult way to kind of get enough reps necessary for the nervous system to kind of learn the new pattern. So what I think you could do, though and whether you do it a lot or a little doesn't really matter, as long as you're doing it is doing some fitness and mobility work, and it doesn't have to be anything complex, it doesn't have to be anything that really cost a significant amount of money, but looking into some simple and and you know foundational let's call it kind of movement, uh stuff that you can find online, with not necessarily stretching, but more activation type things, and looking at creating bigger ranges of motion, not so much trying to just add raw strength, because, at the end of the day, ranges of motion of joint segments is really what allows us to swing the golf club fast. It's not so much about blunt force and you know it's a great thing when you kind of can create both. But for most of us that are out there playing golf, you know it's we're going to find way bigger gains when it comes to mobility than we are strength, and the mobility really creates a stage for a lot of nice things within the golf swing, like creating a wider arc which gives us a little more face stability, we could call it which is going to play out nice when it comes to, like, controlling the golf ball a little better. So I think doing some mobility work, uh, is really really good stuff. Activation over stretching, um, really, just like I said, if you do it once a week, three times a week, seven times a week, uh it's, it's going to be good, it's going to help and I think that's something that us, uh, as in measured golf, having Aram available to our clients, I mean it's just, it's amazing and it makes all the difference in the world and you see that the transformation with clients happens way, way quicker. So I want to thank Aaron man.
Speaker 1:I mean quick story, like I didn't know Aaron very well. You know we, he kind of needed a home and I kind of needed him and we kind of learned to love each other a little bit. So I didn't know Aaron very well and he had already moved into the space as we were kind of doing the build out and was training and, uh, we were supposed to have a couch delivered, uh, to measure golf. And you know, this is in November of of uh, I'm sorry, this is in, uh, october of 2020. And you know, the the pandemic was kind of going on and uh, furniture deliveries, you know, were a little amiss and basically we found out that like we weren't going to have this massive couch for our, like, lobby for opening day and I was like, well, that's not going to work because we're going to have people in here and we've got to have some more for people to sit. So, uh, luckily, I had remembered seeing like a couch that looked pretty good at Ikea.
Speaker 1:So I drive up to Ikea with my wife and we find this couch. It's like perfect and we still have to this day. And I was like, how are we going to get it back to measured golf? Cause like I at the time I was driving a Honda Accord and uh, I called Aram and like, yeah, man, I'll be there. And like it takes probably 45 minutes to get to Ikea from you know, ann Arbor, where we are, and I bet he was there within an hour. And it's like you just for that guy to to kind of have my back and help me out and uh to be the guy that he's been the whole time. He's been the same guy from day one and I just I love him to death.
Speaker 1:I think if you're uh anywhere in the Ann Arbor area, I think you should definitely check them out and uh let him help you. And even if you're not in the Ann Arbor area, he can do some like online stuff with you, uh, and definitely do some programming, which I think he's phenomenal at and does a very good job. And I know that gets thrown out there a lot with programming, but I really do think that the way he programs, based off what he sees, is excellent and really separates him from a lot of others. So uh can't say enough good things uh about, obviously, my wife and business partner, paul and Brandy, uh, and then obviously kind of my uh, you know, consigliere and uh Aram. So you know, I just want to make sure those people get credit, man, because you know they've all kind of invested in me and taken a chance on me.
Speaker 1:And you know I gotta be honest with you. You know it's taken me a long time to kind of figure it out. I've had the ability to help people, but you know there's helping people and then there's like substantially altering things for the better best to deliver maximum value to every one of my clients. And I'm not going to make any bones about it Uh, we're not the cheapest place to go and get a golf lesson, and I'm very aware of that. Um, however, I believe that we provide a very fair rate and we still deliver incredible value. And that's kind of the the line or the mark of deportation for me, I guess, is that as long as I feel like I can deliver value to the people that I'm fortunate enough to work with, then it doesn't matter what I charge, and they're always going to be there and a lot of my people have been with me for a long time. So it's it's just very, it's very humbling, it's very cool no-transcript and leaves comments and likes, and you know the same with Instagram. You know anybody who has liked or anything. I mean it all helps.
Speaker 1:So I just wanted to have the opportunity to kind of say thank you to the people that mean the most. I am not getting into any of the mentors and all of that stuff because that would just take forever, all of that stuff, because that would just take forever. But you know, there's there's not very many golf uh instructors who are well-known, who I don't like, and generally they're well-known because they've helped a lot of people. So do I agree with the way they coach or what they believe? Maybe not, but that doesn't stop them from helping the people they work with and I think that's really what's important.
Speaker 1:And if you're going to get into coaching and you're getting into it because, hey, I want to win these awards and I want to be recognized and all that, it definitely is a motivator and a driver, for sure. But if it's the only reason that you're doing it, a, it's going to be very hard to get on the list and, two, it's really it's not going to be the satisfying endeavor that you would hope it would be, in my opinion, and it's easy for me to say now. But you know, I'm really proud of all the hard steps and I'm probably prouder of the hard steps that I've taken to get here than I am. The ones that came pretty easy, you know. I hope if you're listening to this episode you know you take something away from it to where.
Speaker 1:You know I left a pretty good thing to to get into coaching golf because I really loved it and I've I've always loved it, and when I wasn't doing it I was just miserable. So I really really kind of made a decision, uh, to leave a very good career that paid very well and came with a lot of prestige. But I left a very good thing for me and my family to take an the ultimate, the ultimate gamble. And you know, luckily my wife was crazy enough to believe in me as well. But we got there and, um, we're not like all the way good and all that's like we're not making that kind of money yet, but at the end of the day, you know, we're able to continue to invest in our business and that's what matters the most to me is that, you know, profit wise. I don't, I'm terrible at making a profit, at making a profit, but I'm very good at figuring out a way to get us the force plates we need and the track man we need and the 3d motion capture and everything else that we kind of use and more or less need. I'm very good at figuring out a way for us to make sure we have that available, because, at the end of the day, measured golf I hope, uh, my, my goal for measured golf anyway is that we move. We move the needle forward.
Speaker 1:Um, it's not so much about, you know, I have no intentions of franchising, I have no intentions of trying to hire more coaches and certified coaches and and all of that Like it's. It's not about, you know, scaling this particular business. It's much more about, you know, using the facility as like a test facility, uh, and then you know, producing content that hopefully uh allows people to understand the golf swing from a more human level, instead of this abstract golf positional basis to where nobody agrees on anything. Because I think we've tried that for a long time and I think what we've proven is that it just doesn't work. Um, the amount of change, the improvement that I've seen out of people who move away from this very positional based way of thinking to more of a movement based thinking, which is kind of how I would describe what I try to coach, uh and believe in, which is really just a hodgepodge of a lot of things. But, you know, getting people to move better and then working on the club seems to be a way that people really see a lot of improvement.
Speaker 1:Uh, the issue, honestly, with helping people understand their movement is really you need some kind of force plate or pressure mat to really start understanding enough of the whole picture to understand where you want to start diving in and diagnosing and actually trying to create some change. And that's, you know, it's been tough because once you get past pressure mats, the force plates get expensive very quickly. Um, so I think that there's really been this barrier, um to the industry. That is hard for a lot of coaches that want to do a great job and and want to, like, tell their clients exactly what they need to know. But it's like, okay, how many $150 golf lessons do I have to give to pay off my $40,000 dual force plates? And it's like the answer is like well too many to pay a mortgage on top of that splits. And it's like the answer is like well too many to pay a mortgage on top of that. So I think that the barrier of entry is really coming down and I think that there are a lot of companies who are trying their best to offer a reliable measurement tool at an affordable price. So I think it's going to get better as we go price. So I think it's going to get better as we go.
Speaker 1:And the fun thing is that I think what we are learning and understanding and coaching from a force plate perspective, I think we're only starting to scratch the surface and I think if there's more baseline information shared out into the golf space that's good information that's based on things that have actually been measured, then it should be easier theoretically for the next generation to start from that point and move the needle even farther. And at the end of the day, I think what we all want to do is we want to find an easier way to enjoy the game of golf, and I've yet to meet anybody who doesn't equate enjoyment of the game to shooting a perceived low score to their skill. And that's kind of why we play games we want to do. Well, I don't think anybody would play a particular board game where everybody loses every time. That sounds pretty awful. So you know, getting golf to a place to where there's less barriers to entry and more good information out there. I think that only serves one purpose, which is growing the game of golf, which, as a PGA professional, is kind of what my Hippocratic oath is, if you want to call it is to grow the game.
Speaker 1:So I love, I love the position I'm in. I'm very fortunate. I'm very thankful of the people that have helped me get here. I love coaching, of the people that have helped me get here. I love, uh, coaching. It's definitely my uh, life's dream and work and I kind of get to do it every day. So it's been very, very good and, uh, I appreciate everybody who supports and listens and I just wanted to kind of make sure that, make sure that everybody understands that. You know I am appreciative of this. So you know, trying to fit this into a social media post would be pretty difficult and I thought, you know, hey, you know we can kind of jump in here in the middle of a great guest lineup and, uh, make people suffer through one episode with just me. So I appreciate you allowing me to kind of share a little bit of my thanks and my gratitude for those that have helped me with this. You know, tremendous honor that Golf Digest has bestowed upon me, so I appreciate the recognition. Uh, I definitely have spent a lot of days thinking nobody notices some of the stuff we do, but uh, you know it's, it's great to see see a little bit of recognition from the industry. So with that I say thank you very much.
Speaker 1:Um, real quick, I thought it would probably be remiss if I didn't mention anything about the most recent President's Cup. So if you're still listening, I appreciate that and I hope that you're a real golf diehard and were able to enjoy the President's Cup, because I thought this year was spectacular. My assumption is that it's probably spectacular most years, but most years the president's cup is going on and I kind of tend to glance over it or miss it a little bit. But you know, this year, uh, I've been a little bit under the weather, as you can probably tell, and you know I was a little more invested in and spent a little more time watching, and man, what great TV. Uh, I just thought, you know, I was a little more invested in it, spent a little more time watching, and man, what great TV. I just thought, you know, the international team really did their best to kind of punch above their weight, so to speak, and the American team responded really well and I, really, like you know, I disagree strongly that people don't like team golf.
Speaker 1:I think if you watch the President's Cup, I think if you watch the Ryder Cup, if you kind of realize that you're watching players that otherwise you wouldn't even be aware they're a professional player and you're invested in that, I think that proves that team golf really makes golf matter more and it allows for, you know, tom Kim and Sun JM and these other tremendous players to be featured. And I think that what the tour really has a problem with is they don't really create stars. You know, we have a star at a time, we have a Tiger Woods, we have a Scotty Scheffler, but we don't really have a way to create these household big name golfers and we're generally pretty limited in how many of these big name golfers there are during any kind of period of time. But I think by introducing the team aspect to it you can see that it allows other players who maybe react slightly differently to that team environment and maybe respond a little bit more positively to that pressure. It allows for them to be recognized for their great ability. And I mean, I know for a fact, tom Kim, if you're, you know, watching golf on TV, you probably know who Tom Kim is. However, if you don't watch a lot of TV, you probably didn't know who Tom Kim was and it's like it. Just it allows these guys who are right on the periphery to really kind of grab a piece of the spotlight and shine. And I mean, let's face facts, you know, if you've been watching anything with Q School here lately, these guys are really good and, like, what it takes to get on tour is absurd. So if we're talking about, you know, players that are making a President's Cup or a Ryder Cup, I mean you're talking about really some of the finest players in the world at that time in the world at that time. So you know, being able to see more of those people featured that obviously are great golfers anybody who's out there is obviously a great golfer Uh, but just getting a way, creating a way for that you know, 50 to a hundred slot player in the world to where they kind of get a little bit of the spotlight and have the opportunity to show off their personality and their abilities to play golf, I think that's great for the game and I think, once again, it's it's also more inclusive and more representative of what golf looks like globally and not just what golf looks like here in the United States looks like here in the United States. So, uh, really cool stuff in the president's cup.
Speaker 1:Uh, by the way, best logo in golf, president's cup. Like the international team, like that's a good golf logo. Like if you were going to say, hey, mike, you gotta like go buy a new black sweater, cause that's you know, I'm wearing a like a dark green today but I wear a lot of black. So like if you're like, hey, mike, you gotta go buy a new black sweater. Like I would like to have that international logo because that thing is sweet. But the problem is is like they don't win enough to where you want to wear their logo. So it's kind of like being a Cubs fan back in the day, if you can remember that, before they won the world series. So, um, great logo team. Uh played really, really well. I don't feel so much like the international team lost as the American team kind of did what they were supposed to do in one. So you know, my hats off to both teams. Cool stuff.
Speaker 1:Uh, I thought it was definitely worth mentioning cause I sure enjoyed it and I think a lot of people did as well. So you know, I wouldn't be too surprised if you see some more college golf coverage in the future. I wouldn't be so surprised if you start seeing some more like developmental type golf kind of featured, because it seems like you know, based off what I've read, that the ratings for the President's Cup were pretty good. So it seems like there is like this, even though I think the ratings are down week to week. I think that for these big moments, these big events in golf, there really is kind of a appetite for that from a consumer's watching perspective, of a appetite for that from a consumer's watching perspective. So I think that these Capital One matches and these kind of like one-off type events, like a president's not a one-off but a biannual president's cup type event, I think those things you're going to see them try to create more of, which they could easily do with college events, because they tend to be singular tournaments versus like a regular season and then the end of the season. So they could definitely do a little more golf coverage when it comes to that and I wouldn't be surprised if some of that kind of comes on board down the future as everybody continues to search for more content to put out there to distract us all from going out and practicing our five footers.
Speaker 1:So, with that being said, uh, thank you very much for listening. I appreciate it. Uh, I really do appreciate it. It's not lost on me that there's a lot of people who support what I do, and I hope you know that I do my best to try to honor that and try to make sure that when we put content out there, that it's useful and relevant and, more importantly, something you can do, or at least something you can better understand, because if we're just putting things out there to get recognition or to get clicks or whatever the case may be, uh, that'll be when measured golf probably doesn't exist anymore, because I won't want to do that.
Speaker 1:So, uh, I'm very fortunate to do what I do. I love what I do. I love learning, um, and I really appreciate everybody and sharing their, their stories with me. Uh, because I learned, you know, and that's what it's about. And my peers, uh, my colleagues, my mentors, um, I learn every day from them. So, you know, I'm just super thankful because I think my happiness is really derived from learning new things and figuring out a better way to say something or a better way to help somebody, or you know, what makes that clock tick is really what I'm interested in. So I'm just fortunate that I have the opportunity to kind of dive into that every day and kind of satisfy my weird, uh, overthinking, analytical mind. So, uh, thank you to everybody. I do appreciate, you know, tuning in, watching, subscribing, clicking, liking, all of it. So thank you again, uh, and with that said, uh, please, if you haven't already, go ahead and subscribe to this podcast. Uh, you can subscribe to this YouTube channel if you choose to watch this on our YouTube channel, which you can find by searching Measured Golf on YouTube. We have a ton of video content there unrelated to the podcast, but tends to be a little deeper dive in the golf swing, which tends to lend itself very well to what people are looking for, that listen to this podcast. So we have that out there for you.
Speaker 1:We've also had a lot of listeners reach out and ask about working with myself on their golf game, and that is definitely a possibility. So if you head over to Skillist S-K-I-L-L-E-S-T. If you head over to Skillist and you go find a coach and you search my name, michael Dutro, I'll pop up there and you can get ahold of me and select kind of what you want to do and we can take it from there. So if you're interested in trying to work on your golf game a little bit and would like me to be the person to kind of help you with that, I'm flattered and more than happy to help, and you can find me by searching my name, michael Dutro, on the skillet staff. So thank you very much. I appreciate everybody listening and supporting and we're going to get back next week to having great guests, which I think is going to be a lot of fun. So I hope you enjoy the rest of this season and until next time, keep grinding.
