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214 - Baldur's Gate 3 Fan Casting Part 2 - Lae’zel & Wyll! Feat. Fin

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Baldur’s Gate 3 Fancast – Part 2 🎭


Welcome back, adventurers! Last time, we debated the perfect fan cast for three of Baldur’s Gate 3’s beloved (and despised) characters. This time, we’re diving even deeper into the party lineup—tackling the unstoppable force that is Lae’zel and the criminally underwritten Wyll. We also dive into the importance of accessibility in gaming.

Alex, Matt and Jem are once again joined by  BG3 superfan, Fin, to discuss everything from modding chaos to confessions of a Mind Flayer romance. (no judgment... okay, maybe a little).

🏆 Episode Highlights

🦎 Lae’zel, the Ultimate Warrior: Is she terrifying? Yes. Did we romance her anyway? Also yes. Either way, she's a force to be reckoned with, so which actors do we think could bring her fearsome energy to the big screen?

🔧 Modding & Accessibility: From UI fixes to making Raphael hotter (vital), we discuss how mods are changing the game—literally. But is it ableist for Larian to punish players by removing achievements when using mods?

⚔️ Wyll’s Rewrite Woes: Once a morally complex hero, now… a shadow of his previous self? We break down how his last-minute rewrite weakened his story—and how our dream casting could save him.

🔥 The Moral Maze: If Wyll wants to kill Karlach, can we kill Wyll? Discuss.

💬 Parasocial Chaos: The BG3 voice cast has gone full rockstar, but where’s the line between fan appreciation and… handing them an already-opened sex toy at Comic-Con?

🐙 Romancing the Emperor?! Look, no shame—but let’s talk about the moment someone got intimate with a giant psychic squid (in front of Orpheus!).

Baldur’s Gate 3 continues to be the game that keeps on giving, and we’re not done yet! Stay tuned for Part 3, where we tackle even more characters and maybe recover from the Karlach-related emotional damage.


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Matt:

Right, so we'll move on to number four I think Lae'zel and as Lae'zel we have an interesting bunch. So top left

Alex:

That's me. That's Anna Taylor Joy. Which I think has come up for other people in other places, potentially. But yeah, I think, Her performances in things I've seen her in, definitely, I think she has the range for it. And, yeah, that particular hairstyle is definitely, Giving me Lae'zel esque vibes. So, that was my pick.

Matt:

She's definitely building her because she's very young. I think she's only mid to late 20s building up her repertoire so she did the Oh, what's her name? FuriosaFilm.

Alex:

Yes Oh, I forgot, but it was a spin off from Mad Max, isn't it?

Matt:

a young Charlize Theron.

Alex:

Yeah.

Jem:

I can see that.

Matt:

That's pretty hard. Who is the top right? I don't,

Jem:

That's that's Sheila A. Atim and she's been in The Woman King Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and also in Foundation series, which has been on iPlayer. And I feel like a sort of Black woman would be good for the role of Lae'zel because, she's, she is in a minority in that setting. And I think that's something that

Alex:

That's true, yeah.

Jem:

that in their lives can perhaps bring to the role. And I particularly liked Sheena because I think she's got the right sort of bone structure to carry off Lae'zel's role. Makeup. And stuff. So, yeah, no, that was why I chose her. And I think she's she's also got a real presence on screen. So, yeah, she's, and she's done, obviously done stuff. So she's probably able to carry off that side of it. So that was my thinking. And I also have to say that we were talking about romance earlier, and I did romance Lizelle first. She was, she, but she terrified me, so, then I didn't talk to her again.

Fin:

Whoops.

Matt:

the first person I slept with, And I'll explain why hopefully when we get to. So, I'm thinking we're not even halfway through, so shall we do an hour and then we could reconvene for another session at a later time

Alex:

Yeah, I'd say that's right.

Matt:

to do the rest? Because I want to give them all justice.

Alex:

Yes.

Matt:

so Yes, slept with Lae'zel the first time, because, ah, damn, no, so, my first choice was the only one, out of everyone in camp, who when I went and spoke to, didn't go, Oh, have you got someone to spend, to celebrate with? The only one that I genuinely loved from the first time I heard them speak, was the only one, so I had to start the entire playthrough and try and try and woo them, and I succeeded. But yeah, she is scary. And I don't know about how, so I've never played this kind of game before specifically the dice rolling dictating everything. So what I did is I basically spammed reloading until I got the outcome that I wanted with each

Fin:

You gotta do that on your

Matt:

Good yes, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who that has an acceptable thing to do

Fin:

You paid 60 pounds or

Alex:

Yeah,

Fin:

for the game. You play it how you want to play it.

Matt:

I actually played a hundred and twenty pounds for it because I bought it on PlayStation for 60 pounds and then didn't play it because I was hoping it would be Like the sequel to Dragon Age Inquisition that I'd been hoping for but I that it was I'd never played that sort of top down turn based game before. But then, a year later, I've moved on to playing on PC for the first time. And mods is the, you can't, I, it's, that's the ultimate game changer of everything. And the one mod that turned it from a 10 into an 11 was a mod that allows you to look up. Being able to look at the sky. Because the entire playthrough, PlayStation, I was twitching with my. My right analog stick constantly for the entire hundred hours going I want to look up and it getting stuck there every time and there were so many things that I missed in my first playthrough because I couldn't look up like in the underdark there's a massive mage's tower. Just off there to the side from one of the entrances you can go in. And I went, oh wow, that's awesome, and look at that. And in the actual Baldur's Gate itself, being able to look up and go, Oh, that's the roof of that awesome building that I've not been able to see. And, so, yeah mods, and Finn, did you say that you mentioned You use mods, don't you?

Fin:

do indeed.

Matt:

Were you using them? As you say, there's problem with, so it's got an inbuilt mod interface now, hasn't it?

Fin:

Yeah. But the problem is, if you turn on, if you install any mod, it will turn off achievements. Which for, I, I understand that from a tech, I'm a developer. I understand from a technical standpoint why that makes the most sense and is easiest, but I've, pro tip, if you install script extender, you can still get achievements because the big one for me that I don't want to turn off is there's a bunch of UI improvements. And you hover over somebody and it automatically shows you what resistances they have. That's really useful information. But also I gave Will dreadlocks. The man needs dreadlocks. I'm not losing out on achievements. And Raphael has an open shirt. I'm not taking my achievements away just because I'm making people prettier. That's

Jem:

think, we talk a lot, don't we, about accessibility in gaming, and mods is often a way that allows the community to create the accessible tools that the software developers haven't done for whatever reason and so to then, if you're using a mod to make the game playable for you, and then you have the achievements taken away, So, That's deeply unfair, really, because it's, it's As you say, I can see the reasons why they would do it, but I feel that they There must be ways they can get round that.

Fin:

Don't think somebody with unlimited companions beating the game on honor mode with everybody in the team is taking away from my achievement.

Jem:

No.

Fin:

Just because we both have it,

Jem:

yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

the core of the argument for every accessibility thing is, it doesn't matter how good the game is if they can't play it.

Alex:

Exactly,

Matt:

someone literally cannot play your game, it doesn't matter how awesome you've made it. And it was all about, Ooh, it's all about our artistic vision. Is the core of everything you're going to go? No, it's the person who's playing the game. That's the core of everything. And you can, it's harder to make things that are. As accessible as possible, but that's your job as a game developer You develop games that everyone can play and it doesn't matter It doesn't matter who's paying for a game as long as they buy it And that's why yeah, we talk about accessibility features a lot and it just yeah, it's so

Fin:

I will say that there is something to be said for having an artistic vision which deliberately says Excludes a number of people from a player base, but I mean that in terms of difficulty. You should still have accessibility

Alex:

Yeah. I think the choices is the key thing, isn't it? Offering the choice. You can have different levels of difficulty, but if you've got some people playing perhaps a difficulty that is accessible for them, that's fine, but other people can play the harder difficulty if they want to, and the two can exist at the same time.

Fin:

Oh I

Alex:

Yeah, definitely.

Fin:

I've seen people equate the difficulty levels with Accessibility in a way that is incredibly unhelpful Because they're like, we don't want an easy mode So we're not going to put in things to help people who are just using joysticks Or can't see properly or whatever It's no, those are two separate

Jem:

Absolutely. Absolutely. Accessibility is just that, isn't it? It's about being able to access the g access the game in, its, in its creative form in the way that the d the game designers want you to be able to experience that. And so, but difficulty level is. Is, yeah, it's a separate thing. They're not you can't fix

Alex:

Exactly.

Jem:

they are to, yeah, no, I think that's a really good point, Finn, thank you for raising that, actually.

Matt:

and accessibility features It's not just for people who need them. You just need to play something like God of War or The Last of Us Part II. And you see so quickly, just try a few of these. And they can enhance the game for someone who doesn't necessarily need them. The biggest thing, sub titles. Everyone uses sub

Alex:

Yeah.

Matt:

99 percent of people don't need them, technically they could manage without them, but almost everyone uses them all the time. If you ask someone, oh, does that count as an accessibility feature? They'd say, oh, no. Yeah, it is.

Alex:

is. Yes.

Matt:

also, one of the, one of my, the best games that I've played in the last year, for the second time is Elden Ring. Because the the expansion came out, Shadow of the Urchry, awesome. I played Elden Ring originally a few years ago on my Playstation. And I played it the way, the only way you can play it on a console, because there's no mods. And I put my time into it, grinding away, getting all the way to the end, finishing it multiple times. But then this time I didn't want to Just grind myself into oblivion. I just wanted to experience the world because I've been learning about all the lore of it. And I just wanted to have it's called journalist mode, where you're basically just trotting along and nothing can really hurt you and played that, played it. So I played a hundred hours. on PlayStation and then 100 hours on PC and it was so good just not having to stress about fighting the world around me

Jem:

yeah,

Fin:

and I actually want to, the subtitles really does dovetail nicely with the artistic vision because one of the biggest issues that I have, so I can't hear very well out of my right ear, and audio mixing, not just in video game media, but actually across TV and movies, it's really been shaken up in the last few years because of the different types of speakers that more common in the home. And the way that the audio mixes I don't know if you've noticed this. It's more obvious in television, but it does happen in gaming. Where you'll be watching something, and suddenly the voices all go down to nothing. And the music will go up

Alex:

It happens so often for things.

Fin:

mixing is your artistic vision, that's great. But you've gotta have subtitles.

Matt:

And that's one one good thing with games is that you could often they've got options to mix The audio itself

Alex:

Yeah.

Matt:

and one of the things that game companies should do they should just hire the modders

Alex:

Yeah.

Matt:

create the mods because they do things that the game they just go Oh, we'll just toss you a couple of pounds and make mods for us The because the balls get three is one of the most modded games in history. I think there are a hundred

Fin:

Is it?

Matt:

Yeah, the Larian put out A statement recently saying that there's been 100 million downloads, I think. I'll double check that in a moment. But yeah, awesome. Modding stuff. Accessibility stuff. One problem with Baldur's Gate 3 is, it packs a huge amount of information onto the screen at any given time. Especially with the the bar at the bottom with all your information and stuff, but, I'm sure there are tons of mods that will be very helpful with that. I think we're only halfway through our Lae'zel one. So we've done Annie's Headed Joy and Sheila Ateem. The next one is Emily Blunt, which is my one. The picture of is of her is from Edge of Tomorrow where she plays this Super Soldier basically killing aliens with Tom Cruise. And, my thinking was Lae'zel Orcs are, she's basically a fantasy Klingon. That's just, ah, fight and kill and everything, and just, yeah, just remind me of Star Trek Klingons. And so I felt you needed someone who can, she's got that same zealotry of Shadowheart, but with a, in a different direction of every single line she says has something to do with By Vlakith, or Skrull, or this or that, she's always, ah, angry about something. And. And I just thought that Emily Blunt, any actor, any actress who It's still, it's getting more common for actresses to properly muscle up for a role. And I just, I It's really good to be seeing that kind of different body types that women are having shown on the screen everywhere in Celebrity and that kind of thing. So I think she'd be really good at just beating the shit out of everyone around her. Bottom left, bottom right, I think that's you Finn.

Fin:

Daichin Lachman I'm awake. Yes, I'm gonna say something and then everybody should boo. Which is I really liked Joss Whedon growing up.

Matt:

He's made some good stuff!

Fin:

made some good stuff. She was in Dollhouse, I don't know that's a bit of a obscure pull. But. She was very kick ass in that and every role I've seen her in, she has a lot of range from soft to kick ass, so The full

Matt:

that's from Altered Carbon, isn't it?

Fin:

I don't know.

Matt:

Ooh, I'm

Fin:

I've never seen Alter Carbon,

Alex:

seen bits of it.

Fin:

but I had to find one where she looked like she'd just been in a fight.

Matt:

Oh yeah,

Fin:

that was the best one that came up.

Matt:

she's actually just had a naked fight from that photo,

Alex:

Oh,

Matt:

if I remember correctly. There's

Jem:

very L

Fin:

That is very Lae'zel.

Matt:

Yeah, when you have sex with a lazel, you have to like, I'm gonna be in charge, thing. And then you have, if you roll high enough, you get, no, I get to be in charge. And it's

Fin:

I think you only get that if you're dragonborn.

Matt:

Interesting. There's a, the sexuality of characters is an interesting topic as well because as far as I know, every character, every romanceable character is bisexual,

Fin:

Pan.

Matt:

anything sexual, especially astarian. Oh, just made me think, Captain Jack would be, Captain Jack Harkness would be a great astarian because he just, he's had sex with literally every alien in the galaxy and I think that's a, that's an astarian energy. Huh.

Fin:

gonna die on the hill I picked

Matt:

I think we'll we'll do one more, I think we'll squeeze in one more. And we're going to have Will.

Alex:

ooh, I think we may have got the same for some of them, but we'll see,

Matt:

So, I've not seen him in, I've not actually watched him in anything. But from the sounds of it, from what I've heard of him, he is the steamiest of the steamy. Actors on the circuit at the moment, so who is that on the top left?

Alex:

Régé, or Régé, Jean Pége.

Jem:

Yeah.

Alex:

Yeah, and he was in Bridgerton, the first series of Bridgerton.

Jem:

And he's the same, it's the same in the bottom right corner, same

Alex:

That one looks a lot more like Will,

Jem:

younger, a younger version of So.

Alex:

yeah.

Fin:

Did you pick the same person

Jem:

Yeah,

Fin:

Why did you pick him?

Alex:

Which one? Who?

Fin:

Yeah, either really.

Jem:

I picked him because I think he looks a lot like Will in the game. And also I think he's got that kind of, Slightly upper class slightly roguish feel about him. But I didn't have much to do with Will in my

Alex:

No I've not to be honest,

Jem:

yeah,

Alex:

but I think he's got an interesting story from the small bits that I have seen but yeah, I think given the sort of that he feels like he's a very, he feels like he's a very honourable character certainly in terms of romancing, I know that he is someone that is full on, full commitment, kind of,

Fin:

waiting for marriage.

Alex:

waiting for marriage. So, which is not necessarily, actually no, they are married before, I can't remember what happens in Bridgerton now, it's been a while since I watched it, but they're, yeah, I just figured it was the sensible choice. Ah,

Jem:

Will was the one I picked as my origin character though when I played, when I played the origin character because I wanted to explore his story, because I felt like everyone else's story had been so, was quite fleshed out for me during my playthrough, but Will's, it felt like there were, had been a lot that had gone on behind the scenes that we hadn't Seen or, and I just thought, yeah he's got hidden depths and I think that Reggie is a good actor for conveying that. So yeah, but's mine. Yeah.

Matt:

the move on to the one on the right. That is another doctor, I think. Okay.

Fin:

Last name, Gatwa, yeah. I was going for chaotic bisexual energy. I had two actors in mind for this, because I think that Will, depending on which way he goes, and He's Karlak, but not that much. He won't leave if you slaughter the grove. So if we're going for carefree Will, we're going chaotic bisexual energy. I just thought the latest doctor was the perfect candidate for that. And then

Jem:

But we all know that the doctor has a dark side, so, maybe he can cover both bases.

Fin:

The problem is Will's just a criminally underwritten character. And I understand there was a very last minute change of actor, very

Alex:

Oh, really? Oh.

Fin:

Yeah, real last minute. The original Will was more dark and obsessed with the optics of being a hero,

Alex:

Oh.

Jem:

Right? Yeah.

Fin:

And then his eye was taken out by a goblin. So in act one when you're with the goblins, he like really has a grudge against them, and it's, really under, underbelly. But people didn't like it, so they changed it. I just wish they'd given him more dialogue and choices.

Jem:

yeah.

Fin:

But that's, but because of that's why I picked two different people.

Alex:

Interesting.

Matt:

the bottom left one is yours as well.

Fin:

Yes, and I am so going to say this wrong. It's Cheweddle, and then Ediaphor. And referring again to my prior Joss Whedon habit, has anybody seen Serenity?

Alex:

No.

Fin:

is the bad guy in the movie Serenity, and just Dripping class. This is, I've seen him in other stuff, but that's the big one where it doesn't matter when this man is on screen, he's just class and sex

Jem:

Yeah.

Fin:

on the on full on display. So I was like, okay, that's our alternative Will. Our alternative, because he is a nobleman, we have our chaotic bisexual or we have our very noble classy sexy adventurer.

Matt:

Chihuahua is him before he makes his pact with the devil. And then he, in freedom away from the big city and his father's pressure, he becomes the chaotic bisexual.

Fin:

I like that.

Matt:

That's that's, yeah, they should have written that. That would have been perfect. I've decided this time After Gale, I will say that he's my least favourite character after you guys have shown, after you guys have had, have said yours have shown, obviously you like him because of these fantastic actors. My have any of you played Mass Effect Andromeda?

Alex:

No.

Fin:

god no.

Jem:

no

Matt:

so there's a character in it called Liam Costa, and he is just a rubbish limp fish of a character, and this actor plays him really well as that limp fish, and so I had settled on him. Really quickly, like from when I started playing as Will, I thought he reminds me of him. So that, but that was, I, I can move past that. I think, oh, he sounds similar. I thought it might be the same actor, but that's okay. But then there were two massive red flags that were, that turned me against him from the start. One of them is, I'm very suspicious of anyone who refers to themselves in the third person. He's always going, ah, the blade of Avernus. That's not something the blade of Avernus would do. It's time for you to face the blade of Avernus. And later on when he decides whether I'm going to be the, am I either gonna stay the blade of Avernus or become the blade of Baldur's

Fin:

I gonna stay the blade of frontiers or am I going to become the blade of Avernus?

Matt:

yeah, and then he makes his decision and you all go Okay, and then you go back to whatever you were doing.

Fin:

No, but he doesn't make the decision. That's why it's, that's what's so bad about it. And I don't want to go into it too much, but like the racism underlying the character choices that were made between it, oh, poor Will.

Matt:

Okay, he tried he seemed he does do what he thinks is best He has got he does so he sacrificed he did sacrifice everything To when he got himself exiled. That's yeah, that's fair enough but then the ultimate red flag and I think Finn, you should agree with me on this one, because I remember from watching the last episode, you describing your Golden Retriever girlfriend, Karlak and one of the first things that happens I think, oh, okay. Red Flag one. Red Flag two you. You sound like this other character, but okay. Come back to camp. It'll be fine. We go and find Karlak and Karlak was the reason that I played. I picked up Bolds Gate three again because I was watching a, I was watching a play through and was just doing something else, and then I heard her voice for the first time. And I went, awwww, and looked and then see this magnificent, massive, horned, massive woman, awesome,

Fin:

Muscle Mommy.

Matt:

just, and that's what got me started playing the game. And then on my first playthrough, defeated the goblins, was at camp and said, hi Karlak, and she said, oh, I'm, all I'm missing is a flame retardant lover to spend the night with. And then you go, awwww. Oh no, let's not ruin a good thing. And that hurt. I've been rejected in real life times where it wasn't anywhere near as painful as that was. But for it to put

Fin:

I feel ya. I feel ya.

Matt:

I was able to restart the game and made sure that I did everything that she liked until that point and then we went off. I'll save that

Fin:

There's a mod for that.

Alex:

Oh,

Fin:

There's a mod that shows you who approves of what choices and by how much.

Alex:

ah.

Jem:

Ha.

Matt:

if we had that

Alex:

Sneaky.

Fin:

Wouldn't it just?

Jem:

Ha.

Matt:

Yeah, so, and then, so, ultimate red flag, he wants to kill Karlak. When you bring Karlak back to camp, and he goes, We have to kill this devil, and I go, I Karlak could be everything that he said she was, and I would kill her. I would cut will's head off for suggest, just suggesting it.

Fin:

is the passion we need to be bringing to our Baldur's Gate romances right here. This is, yes. Not his fault! But also I would also murder most of the camp for Kallak.

Matt:

yeah. Yeah. So would I And but fortunately I get, I, you give him the chance to come to his senses and he's very easily led, I think.'cause it only takes three sentences for him to go, oh yeah. I was wrong actually about that.

Fin:

And then he suffers for it.

Matt:

Yeah. and.

Fin:

Yeah, I will say, sorry.

Matt:

go ahead.

Fin:

I will say that I, the only thing I haven't let him try and make that decision for himself yet. At the beginning, because I've been playing on honor mode quite a lot. I know he won't really make a decision, he won't make a decision at the end in either of his, about his pact or which blade to become without your input, which is the bit that really frustrates me. Because everybody else You know, is influenced by their journey and then that's how they're, but not Will. But I haven't done it. I haven't tried just letting him do whatever the hell he wants at the beginning because I never want Karlak to die. So that, I don't know if you don't talk him out of it, does he come around or does he always kill

Matt:

Yeah, the

Fin:

our special

Matt:

I've not been able to think, I've not been able to think, I can't even imagine. Go taking that path. The, so I've seen, have you seen the freeze frame? If you could cut CarX head off and display it. And that's, I think that's something to do with the dirge or something. This is horrible of car. No, I can't. I can't even imagine that. But when I played one of my later playthroughs where I was going to make some nasty decisions and be a worse person. I purposely didn't I just didn't interact with Karlak at all. I left her in act one because I didn't want her to see the things I was going to do.

Fin:

Probably for the best.

Matt:

but yeah, and she we'll finish with this, with a little, this little bit because I think it's quite funny and then we'll come back and do the rest of the character another time. Jem I've poked fun at Jem before for having sex with the Emperor. And even though you don't have to, you don't have to justify it, it's

Fin:

calamari.

Matt:

Yep. Ink

Jem:

Don't tell Gail. He doesn't know.

Fin:

do that for you.

Jem:

He didn't. It was alright. He didn't. It

Fin:

Oh, that's

Jem:

yeah. But just nobody else tell him, okay?

Matt:

You had sex in front of Orpheus.

Fin:

Sometimes if you do that, because the one, the thing that really makes me go, you're a manipulative asshole even more than normal is you have your lovely calamari dinner Like four of your companions come through the portal afterwards, and I'm like you did that on purpose You totally did that on purpose

Matt:

The Emperor is

Fin:

You just

Matt:

interesting character. Because I didn't I realised why I didn't like him was just Getting past the appearance and him we'll talk to him, we'll talk about him at length in our next episode. And it wasn't until after, a little while later, I remembered that Karlak turned, I, Karlak volunteered to transform into a Mind Flayer. Um, ooh, you're not supposed to be able to see my questions for the next time. Forget

Alex:

wipe them from our

Fin:

forget I saw nothing the Emperor has wiped my memory.

Alex:

Yes.

Matt:

just

Alex:

Just think of Octa dad. It's fine.

Matt:

and I, so, Karlak volunteered to become a Mind Flayer at the end, and so I married Mind Flayer Karlak, so

Fin:

Oh

Matt:

probably had sex, more sex with squid than you did, Gem. So I was being,

Jem:

Thank

Fin:

time you'll have to go to hell together

Matt:

not, yeah, I think, yeah, and it was nice because her heart's fixed.

Alex:

Oh,

Matt:

fixes her heart and then you can go off and live happily ever

Jem:

babies.

Matt:

babies! Yay! Yes,

Fin:

and this is technically somebody fucked up, but I like the fan theory that sprung up around it, because Withers does say at some point that the squiddy boys don't have souls,

Jem:

Yeah.

Fin:

weird that they're doing this plan, because what do they have with an army of illithids? But when Karlak changes if you ask him again, he's oh no, actually, Squiddy Carlack does have a soul. It's I like to think that's just because Carlack is so good and strong that even being a squid won't do

Jem:

Yeah. I think that is true. I'm very happy to sign up for that view. World view.

Fin:

Yeah.

Matt:

our beloved Karlak will have to wait until next episode, unfortunately. We'll, having mentioned Withers have any of you heard of the I think you both, whether Finn has heard of it as well the Withers all natural mod.

. Alex:

Yeah.

Fin:

Have, and have you seen the voice actor reading

Matt:

No,

Fin:

There's a I'm going to send this to you afterwards because I don't Are any of you on the okaybuddybolder subreddit? It's the horny version of the Baldur's Gate 3 subreddit. It's a, it's not, it's just shitposting. But somebody wrote, there's a person on there who roleplays as Withers. They're, it's, if Withers had a Reddit account, that's this person. And they wrote a rant about Withers big naturals. Where they were like, I'm tired of these bazongas. And somebody gave it to the actor on Cameo. And he read it! It was a, it's a work of art. I will have to send that to you.

Jem:

It's

Matt:

The cast are such a bunch of legends To just be able to go from just jobbing like actors with relative success to suddenly being massive global. Megastars to be able to manage that and also be everything that we hoped they would be And

Fin:

are icky. But the way Neil Newburn has handled it has really helped teach me how to interact with actors and things. Because he's No, we both, we're connected by this character, and our individual journeys with this character. So, I'm not a Starian, I don't have a canonical, because people will come up to it, what's a Starian's favourite pie? And he'd be like, I, whatever you think it is! And it was just really, it was really nice to get the actor's perspective on what connects them to their fans. Because also I was at a talk at Comic Con and Jennifer English and her girlfriend, somebody gave them a sexual aid that was already open. Somebody thought that was an appropriate thing to give an actor.

Alex:

Okay.

Fin:

But they've been amazing. I just like, what a world to have to navigate through,

Alex:

Yeah.

Jem:

That's actually a really good topic for us in the future actually, the whole sort of parasocial relationships with these, with the voice actors and the characters that they play. Because, I know I, we were talking about Joss Whedon earlier I think, who mentioned Joss Whedon. Yeah. And I'm obviously not obviously, but I am a massive Buffy fan. And I was like, Full on proper in love with Spike. Properly. As an adult. Not as a child. I was a grown adult and I was like properly in love with him. And I remember just thinking yeah, it does happen. It does happen. So we, we all understand. You and Karlak met.

Matt:

They have done really is that gentle gently separating themselves from So when someone does come up and say to them, Oh, what's a Starryn's favourite pie? He doesn't go, I'm not a Starryn, you moron! He goes, we've gone through different journeys with him. What's your Starryn's favourite pie? On this particular day I was thinking of This one. It'll probably be something saucy because Sarian has, can turn the sauce on like that. He's he's one of my favourite characters. But yeah, Baldur's Gate 3 is just, it's a wonderful thing that continues to do wonderful things. And soon there will be cross play,

Fin:

I know, I'm so excited. I'm gonna get to play with my sister.

Matt:

Exciting stuff on the

Alex:

Exciting.

Matt:

I think that'll that'll do for today. We've gone for an hour and a quarter, and obviously we definitely need to stop and come back for another time because we've barely scratched the surface on lots of these things, so it's very exciting. Finn, thank you very much for joining us again. Hopefully,

Fin:

Always happy to talk about Baldur's Gate. Thanks for having me.

Matt:

Very

Alex:

You're very welcome. Thank you.

Matt:

and we have myself, Matt, Alex and Jem. New stuff from us every Thursday. Let us know what you think in the comments. And if you want more Baldur's Gate 3 stuff, we'll be coming up with it shortly. So until next time, buh bye!