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Or what is the"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1613.1599999999999,"endTime":1615.6499999999999,"body":"key book that you've read,"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1615.8899999999999,"endTime":1619.31,"body":"That's had the biggest impact on"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1615.8899999999999,"endTime":1619.31,"body":"your approach to working with"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1619.31,"endTime":1619.73,"body":"children?"},{"speaker":"Ange Anderson","startTime":1619.7099999999998,"endTime":1621.6599999999999,"body":"I would say it's"},{"speaker":"Ange Anderson","startTime":1619.7099999999998,"endTime":1621.6599999999999,"body":"a quote rather than a book"},{"speaker":"Ange Anderson","startTime":1621.7199999999998,"endTime":1626.28,"body":"Ignacio Estrada is attributed"},{"speaker":"Ange Anderson","startTime":1621.7199999999998,"endTime":1626.28,"body":"with the quote, If a child can't"},{"speaker":"Ange Anderson","startTime":1626.28,"endTime":1630.9599999999998,"body":"learn the way we teach, maybe we"},{"speaker":"Ange Anderson","startTime":1626.28,"endTime":1630.9599999999998,"body":"should teach the way they learn."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1631.05,"endTime":1633.0,"body":"I think that's a"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1631.05,"endTime":1633.0,"body":"brilliant note to wrap up the"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1633.0,"endTime":1636.7199999999998,"body":"interview on Ange. 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Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1643.1399999999999,"endTime":1643.9199999999998,"body":"being on the podcast."},{"speaker":"Ange Anderson","startTime":1643.9499999999998,"endTime":1644.9699999999998,"body":"Thanks very much,"},{"speaker":"Ange Anderson","startTime":1643.9499999999998,"endTime":1644.9699999999998,"body":"Simon."},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1645.36,"endTime":1647.9099999999999,"body":"Oh, so there's"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1645.36,"endTime":1647.9099999999999,"body":"a lot to think about there,"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1647.9699999999998,"endTime":1652.7099999999998,"body":"especially in how we can use"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1647.9699999999998,"endTime":1652.7099999999998,"body":"technology to help our students"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1652.74,"endTime":1657.51,"body":"overcome their fears and"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1652.74,"endTime":1657.51,"body":"anxieties in a safe way before"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1657.51,"endTime":1660.03,"body":"using those skills out in the"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1657.51,"endTime":1660.03,"body":"real world."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1660.06,"endTime":1662.25,"body":"And I've put"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1660.06,"endTime":1662.25,"body":"direct links to Angie's"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1662.25,"endTime":1664.4399999999998,"body":"resources in the episode"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1662.25,"endTime":1664.4399999999998,"body":"description."},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1664.4699999999998,"endTime":1666.78,"body":"By the way, if"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1664.4699999999998,"endTime":1666.78,"body":"you're working with children"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1666.78,"endTime":1670.6799999999998,"body":"whose behaviour challenges you"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1666.78,"endTime":1670.6799999999998,"body":"in any way, and you're not sure"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1670.6799999999998,"endTime":1674.07,"body":"why they're acting that way,"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1670.6799999999998,"endTime":1674.07,"body":"we've got a download that can"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1674.07,"endTime":1678.48,"body":"help. 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