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Why not"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1615.1599999999999,"endTime":1619.1799999999998,"body":"whisper affirmation phrases into"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1615.1599999999999,"endTime":1619.1799999999998,"body":"the year of a pensioner as they"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1619.1799999999998,"endTime":1624.4299999999998,"body":"sleep things like you can do it."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1619.1799999999998,"endTime":1624.4299999999998,"body":"And if you believe you can"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1624.4299999999998,"endTime":1629.05,"body":"achieve and you've got this when"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1624.4299999999998,"endTime":1629.05,"body":"the pensioner awakes, they'll"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1629.05,"endTime":1632.11,"body":"feel full of positivity and"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1629.05,"endTime":1632.11,"body":"optimism. They're not quite able"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1632.11,"endTime":1635.8899999999999,"body":"to explain why. And the best"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1632.11,"endTime":1635.8899999999999,"body":"part, you'll be like a Santa for"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1635.9199999999998,"endTime":1640.0,"body":"OAP's delivering sackfuls of"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1635.9199999999998,"endTime":1640.0,"body":"sweet self confidence, and"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1640.0,"endTime":1642.4299999999998,"body":"they'll never even know you're"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1640.0,"endTime":1642.4299999999998,"body":"in their bedroom."},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1642.49,"endTime":1645.31,"body":"Okay, so that's"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1642.49,"endTime":1645.31,"body":"wrong on so many levels. Please"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1645.31,"endTime":1648.6399999999999,"body":"don't do that. But do remember"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1645.31,"endTime":1648.6399999999999,"body":"to catch school behaviour"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1648.6399999999999,"endTime":1651.6399999999999,"body":"secrets next time. Have a"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1648.6399999999999,"endTime":1651.6399999999999,"body":"brilliant week, and we look"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1651.6399999999999,"endTime":1654.85,"body":"forward to seeing you on the"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1651.6399999999999,"endTime":1654.85,"body":"next day. Bye for now"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1654.9399999999998,"endTime":1655.9599999999998,"body":"Youve got this!"}]}