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And don't forget to"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":2244.0699999999997,"endTime":2247.19,"body":"subscribe while you've got your"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":2247.19,"endTime":2248.15,"body":"app open."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":2248.5699999999997,"endTime":2251.18,"body":"That means it's"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":2248.5699999999997,"endTime":2251.18,"body":"game over for this week's"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":2251.21,"endTime":2251.81,"body":"episode."},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":2252.08,"endTime":2255.2,"body":"We hope you"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":2252.08,"endTime":2255.2,"body":"have a calm serene and anger"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":2255.2,"endTime":2258.5,"body":"free week and we really looking"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":2255.2,"endTime":2258.5,"body":"forward to seeing you on the"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":2258.5,"endTime":2262.3399999999997,"body":"next episode of school behaviour"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":2258.5,"endTime":2262.3399999999997,"body":"sequence. Bye for now."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":2262.97,"endTime":2263.39,"body":"Bye"}]}