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Pamela,"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":318.59000000000003,"endTime":319.58,"body":"welcome to the show."},{"speaker":"Pamela Tseu","startTime":319.35,"endTime":321.41999999999996,"body":"Thank you so much,"},{"speaker":"Pamela Tseu","startTime":319.35,"endTime":321.41999999999996,"body":"good to be here."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":321.47,"endTime":323.24,"body":"So let's start"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":321.47,"endTime":323.24,"body":"with your seven tools, you"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":323.24,"endTime":326.24,"body":"developed the seven tools to"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":323.24,"endTime":326.24,"body":"improve classroom management."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":326.27,"endTime":329.45,"body":"But before we get on to the"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":326.27,"endTime":329.45,"body":"tools themselves, and how to use"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":329.45,"endTime":331.7,"body":"them, what led you to develop"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":329.45,"endTime":331.7,"body":"them?"},{"speaker":"Pamela Tseu","startTime":331.71000000000004,"endTime":334.89,"body":"First of all, if I"},{"speaker":"Pamela Tseu","startTime":331.71000000000004,"endTime":334.89,"body":"can just interject a few reasons"},{"speaker":"Pamela Tseu","startTime":334.89,"endTime":338.37,"body":"that this system I'm using"},{"speaker":"Pamela Tseu","startTime":334.89,"endTime":338.37,"body":"quotes here is different. 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