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I'm 47"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1292.24,"endTime":1294.6399999999999,"body":"years old, and I'm really proud"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1292.24,"endTime":1294.6399999999999,"body":"of that sentence."},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1294.9099999999999,"endTime":1297.07,"body":"And don't"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1294.9099999999999,"endTime":1297.07,"body":"forget, if you've missed any of"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1297.07,"endTime":1300.4299999999998,"body":"the previous podcasts in the"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1297.07,"endTime":1300.4299999999998,"body":"series, where have you been?"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1300.4299999999998,"endTime":1304.24,"body":"We've missed you. You can go"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1300.4299999999998,"endTime":1304.24,"body":"back at any time and listen to"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1304.24,"endTime":1307.6,"body":"all of our other episodes to"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1304.24,"endTime":1307.6,"body":"hear more of the good stuff."},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1307.75,"endTime":1311.77,"body":"Finally, we really hope you find"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1307.75,"endTime":1311.77,"body":"today's episode useful. If you"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1311.77,"endTime":1316.4199999999998,"body":"have, do yourself a favour, find"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1311.77,"endTime":1316.4199999999998,"body":"a friend and share this episode"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1316.4199999999998,"endTime":1320.4699999999998,"body":"with them. And that means that"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1316.4199999999998,"endTime":1320.4699999999998,"body":"other teachers or school leaders"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1320.4699999999998,"endTime":1323.4699999999998,"body":"can find out about the show and"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1320.4699999999998,"endTime":1323.4699999999998,"body":"start getting the help that they"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1323.4699999999998,"endTime":1327.49,"body":"need to support the children in"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1323.4699999999998,"endTime":1327.49,"body":"their schools too. So please do"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1327.49,"endTime":1328.99,"body":"help us spread the word."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1329.1699999999998,"endTime":1330.79,"body":"Thanks for"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1329.1699999999998,"endTime":1330.79,"body":"listening to this episode of"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1330.79,"endTime":1334.06,"body":"school behaviour secrets. Have a"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1330.79,"endTime":1334.06,"body":"great week and we look forward"},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1334.06,"endTime":1336.82,"body":"to see you in the next episode."},{"speaker":"Simon Currigan","startTime":1334.06,"endTime":1336.82,"body":"Bye"},{"speaker":"Emma Shackleton","startTime":1337.09,"endTime":1337.78,"body":"bye for now."}]}