Our guest, Dorian Kominek, realized the pursuit of partnering and partner programs was in need of a foundational framework.
So she has set out to work on changing the minds of partnering organizations to rethink their approach to partner program development.
Guest bio:
From Channel Manager, to Strategic Partnerships Manager, to Head of Partnerships, Dorian has spanned the partnerships arena for some years before deciding to make an interesting contribution to those who have established partner programs, or are planning to establish one.
She’s here with us today to discuss key ideas from her dissertation: Channel Partner Program Development As An Entrepreneurial Pursuit.
Find the dissertation here:
https://partnershiphero.ca/#research?ref=mgx-pd-bzspt
Or check out Dorian's YouTube channel here: https://youtube.com/@InnovationSensation?si=cM0WVttV1UqN-aRf
Chapter markers:
(01:00) Guest intro
(06:20) How to attain organizational alignment for supporting channel partner program development as an entrepreneurial venture
(08:34) Best practices for development of a channel partner program in accordance with entrepreneurial literature
(11:04) Embracing entrepreneurial thinking to foster innovation for partner program development
(13:02) Work discretion, autonomy for the partnership person you hire & trusting them
(13:47) Not enough financial support is one or budgetary support. But also time is a huge one
(14:59) Rewards and reinforcements: If you're hiring an entrepreneurial person, you need to reward them
(16:11) Serving partners as we do customers + aspects of the partner experience (PX)
(18:25) Survey results & the most commonly cited entrepreneurial factors necessary for success
(20:41) Role of partner segmentation in the partner experience
(22:55) Role of empathy in creating a partner program
(24:50) Partner programs, as an entrepreneurial venture, and the value to partners
(26:10) Type of partners to target in the partner program
(27:50) Key resources required to run a successful channel program
(29:35) What impact do you hope this report will leave on organizations with partner programs?
(31:21) 67% of partner professionals say their biggest challenges are internal at their organization
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Paul appears on an episode hosted by Vince Menzione. They, along with Rob Spee, explore the dynamics of partnerships and ecosystems, channel marketing, and the pivotal role of the chief partner officer. Other subjects include ecosystem attribution, channel alignment, partner marketing strategies, and the rise of AI adoption.
We discuss this and more on today's episode with our Channel Panel members:
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Kelly Sarabyn and Asher Mathew are here with us today to discuss key insights from their latest report: The State of Partner-Led Growth Report.
This new report promises to shed light on:
To get a better understanding of the implications of the insights they've uncovered, we delve into the specifics behind the results from the report.
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It's not enough to just have partners – understanding them and tailoring the experience to their needs can truly set apart a great partnership from a good one.
This episode will cover:
Lindsey Traub brings expertise from:
She also served as the Director of Programs and Partnerships at Cart.com and built the company's partner program from the ground up.
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Today’s partner ecosystem: fueled by hyperscalers, sold in marketplaces, and delivered through the channel.
What can we expect of the partner experience in light of this new ecosystem model?
We discuss this and more on today's episode with our Channel Panel members:
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Growing and managing a channel is not without its pitfalls and harsh realities. These uncomfortable truths, often kept under wraps, can hamper the growth and success of your channel strategies if not confronted head-on.
Some of these uncomfortable truths include:
Today’s guest will share their experiences, insights, and strategies to turn these uncomfortable truths into powerful levers for success.
About the guest - Barb Huelskamp:
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In this episode, we will explore the key benefits and strategies of partner marketing, and provide practical tips and advice on how to optimize your partner marketing efforts.
Partner marketing provides a unique opportunity for businesses to leverage the strengths and resources of their partners to enhance their marketing efforts, reach new audiences, and drive revenue growth.
Guest bio: Ben Wright of PartnerFuel
Our guest today is one of the most visible members within partnership communities today. If you’re active within partnership posts on LinkedIn, you may have noticed him regularly commenting and leaving helpful tips.
After working in partnerships roles such as Director of Partnerships and Business Development, Strategic Partnerships, at a Senior Manager & Director Level, he quickly embraced a specialization within this space.
He set out on his own to help partnership teams overcome their partner marketing challenges at PartnerFuel.
From:
He can do it all.
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The conversation started on these threads. We’ll be addressing the major points brought up by others from these threads https://www.linkedin.com/posts/adampasch_partnerships-partnerexperience-partnersuccess-activity-7039629574317490176-vIDU and https://www.linkedin.com/posts/aaronhowerton_partnerexperience-prms-activity-7039950524846067713-MrpM
Then we decided to give it a bigger platform to continue the discussion since these have been long-circulating thoughts in the partnerships space.
Hear insights from:
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Aligning your channel sales team with your direct sales team can be a great way to maximize your business's potential.
This episode will provide an overview of how to align the two.
In addition to tips and techniques to help you navigate this tricky situation, we will cover topics such as:
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Hyperscaler marketplaces are having a significant impact on channel sales.
By providing customers with access to cloud-based services, hyperscaler marketplaces have become an increasingly popular way for customers to purchase IT services. This has led to a shift away from traditional channel sales, as customers are now able to purchase what they need directly from the cloud provider.
As a result, channel partners must focus on providing value-added services and support in order to remain competitive in the market.
Our guest today, Tim Lowe, is the Director of Partner Ecosystem for the South East at the world leader of enterprise open source solutions at Red Hat.
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Take a listen to the latest episode of the Ultimate Channel Sales Podcast and hear two MSPs share their experiences and perspectives on managing their channel, from the channel partner's point of view. They share their strategies for success, the challenges they've faced, as well as their advice for other MSPs. Tune in to get an inside look at how channel partners manage their channel!
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In today’s episode, we’re bringing on a world-renowned professional who has been a long-standing expert in the partnerships industry, to discuss the most recent trends in partner ecosystems practices, as well as predictions for 2023, and a general forecast of what we should expect in the evolution of the partnerships space with regards to ecosystems.
Today's guest is Jay McBain. Jay is the chief analyst of “channels, partnerships & ecosystem” at Canalys – a market analyst firm with a distinct channel focus.
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We’ve brought together three hosts from three different podcasts in the partnerships space to review key insights and trends noticed in the past year from interviews with channel chiefs, partnership leaders and in the overall partner ecosystem landscape.
Rob Spee is a seasoned and experienced channel and alliance executive. He has created and executed channel strategies and programs ranging from start-up mode businesses, all the way to a $350M business. Today he’s SVP of Global Channel & Alliances at BeyondTrust as well as the host of the long-running Channel Journeys podcast – a podcast where you can “hear channel experts share authentic stories of their channel victories, defeats, and lessons learned along the way.”
Vince Menzione is the Founder of Ultimate Partnerships – a consultancy helping partner organizations drive greater results. And the host of another impressively long-running podcast, The Ultimate Guide to Partnering podcast.
Paul Bird is the host of Magentrix PRM's The Ultimate Channel Sales Podcast - where he regularly has discussions on how to navigate partnerships, how to support your partners, identify weak areas of your partner strategy, discuss the latest industry trends and reports, and more.
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In the past year alone: “Partner ecosystems” has become the hottest buzzword in the channel space. Forrester reported an even split between channel, direct, and marketplace revenue.
And that 90% of IT sales will be partner-assisted before, during, and after a sale.
All this to say that the channel looks shockingly different than it did just five years ago.
If a vendor’s channel team fails to jump on this partner ecosystem trend, will they be left behind?
Today’s guest is Balthasar Wyss, the Vice President of Customer Success at MerdianLink - a digital lending platform. He brings years of business development wisdom from both sides of the channel and helped earn VC funding and successful IPOs.
In this episode, we’re going to:
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The first-of-its-kind report on the state of the partnerships industry. Hear the latest trends in Partner Ops, partner programs, and ecosystem strategy – all from an impressive roster of partnership leaders.
We’ve invited two key contributors, Kelly Sarabyn (Platform Ecosystem Advocate @ HubSpot) and Asher Mathew (Founder @ Partnership Leaders), to discuss their findings and key takeaways.
On today’s episode, you’ll hear discussion around:
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There’s a simple set of principles the world’s best partnership teams tend to follow and some common dysfunctions that hold many teams back.
Ecosystem thought leader Vince Menzione shares how to spread these five principles throughout your partnerships.
Listen to today’s episode to:
Vince Menzione is:
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Some partnerships fail incredibly fast. Some in as few as 30 days.
So, be careful with what you do in the early days of a partnership – as it can set the tone for the rest of the relationship. At the start of the partnership, it’s important to be careful and leave first impressions that can help create partners who are:
The attention you pay to partners during this critical timeframe can result in either:
Today, we welcome a special guest to help improve your partner retention rates.
He’s a channel partner with a horror story that shows you what not to do and shares tips for vendors on how they can retain their channel partners. Listen to this episode to:
Guest Bio - Adam Alfi:
Today’s guest is a multi-preneur with over 25 years experience in the IT space, and a career spanning various roles, including: project management, consulting, and even a stint on Wall Street.
Today, he runs an MSP business – EV Software and Business Solutions – which serves startups and enterprise clients alike.
(1:46) Guest intro: Adam Alfi
(3:52) Why are the first 30 days so critical when starting a new partnership with a vendor?
(4:41) Textbook example of how to lose a partner in 30 days
(10:21) Some vendors look great on paper, but that’s where it ends. As an MSP owner, what made this partner you mentioned seem like a good partner at the time? What motivated you to sign a partner agreement with them?
(12:06) How can vendors and partners get on the same page from the beginning? What would build confidence in the partnership?
(15:29) Vendors sometimes have different definitions of success than partners. How can partners on both sides align on a shared vision of success?
(17:13) In terms of sales enablement, what helps you understand a vendor solution so you can sell it to your best-fit customers?
(20:15) Do a lot of software vendors lack discovery as part of their onboarding or enablement process?
(22:02) What about training? What's better, one-on-one, or self-guided? How does training play a role in the onboarding process?
(25:41) Opinion on online training or self-guided training (as opposed to one-on-one) - is it useful?
(28:56) Partner enablement resources: Content types that really help you sell a product?
(32:50) Vendors engaging with partners via social media
(33:36) Importance of timeliness of vendor responsiveness and bad experiences
(34:06) Importance of trust with vendors and registering opportunities on a vendor's partner portal
(36:37) Preventing channel conflict: What a vendor should do when they see two partners attempting to register the same opportunity in the partner portal
(38:52) Do partner incentives motivate you to eng
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It’s no secret, potential partners start scoping you out long before approaching you.
Sure, it’s easy to brush off anonymous complaints as “unimportant”.
But don’t forget, the channel community is listening.
Today’s episode brings a new perspective on partnerships. We welcome someone representing the other side of the channel: a channel partner, straight from the MSP community.
Listen to this episode to find out:
Today's guest has been in the tech space for nearly 30 years. For the past 2 decades, he’s been a tech entrepreneur and advocate for open-source software. He maintains a YouTube channel, “Lawrence Systems” has over 258-thousand subscribers where he vlogs on: Tech, IT and, cyber security. And he’s currently the President at Lawrence Technology Services, a Managed Services Provider based in Michigan.
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(0:00) Introduction
(02:34) Why is it important for an MSP to thoroughly vet vendors?
(4:11) Define the MSP community and tell us where you connect with each other?
(5:41) Red flags that can make you stop pursuing a partnership altogether
(8:06) Green flags – Factors that inspire confidence in working with a vendor
(9:33) Cringe-worthy call-outs: Claim # 1
(11:13) Cringe-worthy call-outs: Claim # 2
(12:39) Does breaking trust tend to affect vendor reputation forever? Can a vendor come back from breaking trust in the partner community?
(14:57) Things vendors need to start doing to increase transparency overall
(16:12) Pricing and transparency: How should vendors list pricing?
(18:50) Product feature pages are usually written by marketers. How do you ensure that a vendor’s product does what it says it does?
(21:05) Vetting Vendors video reaction
(25:52) How can vendors be as transparent as possible
(26:11) What's the right balance of marketing vendors should do?
(28:09) At what point in your vendor vetting process do you reach out to engage with them about a potential partnership?
(29:54) Advice for vendors dealing with issues that are negatively affecting their reputation today
(31:14) Conclusion
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Partner ecosystems are like ecological ones: when healthy, all connected parts can nurture and support one another.
Norma Watenpaugh shares insights on:
Today’s guest, Norma Watenpaugh, has been a visionary in the IT world for channel giants like Sun Microsystems, pre-Oracle, Fujitsu, BA Systems, and for the last 20 years, CEO and founding partner of the Phoenix Consulting Group.
She has a laser focus on helping companies achieve profitable results through strategic alliances, channels, and partner ecosystems.
Listen for all of Norma’s insights on maintaining a healthy partner ecosystem.
Read the blog: https://www.magentrix.com/articles/blog/Is-Your-Partner-Ecosystem-Healthy-31-8-2022
(0:00) Introduction
(2:30) What is a partner ecosystem?
(4:32) The shift to the ecosystem model
(6:08) Gauging the health of the ecosystem – how it impacts the success of partnerships
(8:22) Establishing a Partner Ecosystem
(13:17) 1st Thing to Check: Ecosystem strategy
(18:25) 2nd Thing to Check: Interaction and engagement amongst partners
(22:43) 3rd Thing to Check: Mutual benefits for partners
(23:42) Example of a healthy partner ecosystem
(25:16) Norma Watenpaugh’s background in partner ecosystems
(26:39) Results to expect from a healthy partner ecosystem
(27:33) Conclusion
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It’s important to find partners that are right for you, but just as important, if not more, is knowing how to make the most of those partnerships.
One way that can almost guarantee a deep understanding of how to navigate your partnerships and best leverage them is the practice of partner segmentation. That is, segmenting partners within the different markets they service.
Manuel Rivera shares insights on:
Our guest today, Manuel Rivera, has been in the channel for over 20 years. He boasts a pretty extensive background in: taking over existing channel programs, understanding the current makeup of the channel partners that are part of those programs, and trying to align those partners with the goals of the organization. Today, he develops and manages the channel sales program of Constella Intelligence as the Vice President Global Channel Sales.
Listen for all of Manuel’s advice on creating and leveraging strategic channel partnerships.
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(0:00) Introduction
(2:07) Manuel Rivera’s background in channel sales
(4:11) Benefits of a well-thought out channel partner strategy
(7:15) Start by selecting the right partners
(13:55) Leverage partnerships & know where to invest time
(37:24) Understanding market trends is key for positive growth
(40:15) Conclusion
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Our guest today, Hans Peter Bech, has been involved in the channel space for over 3 decades. With more than 25 years in executive roles growing global market shares for information technology companies under his belt, he decided to focus all his energy on strategic business development projects and founded TBK Consult. And as if that wasn’t enough, throughout this time, he has also written not one but 3 published books on channel-related topics.
Topic summary:
Channel sales is a great way to reach the end consumer and so you establish a channel. Now, how do you build that channel to be successful?
What if you’re experiencing great success already but now, how do you expand your channel globally?
Hans discusses what your channel sales strategy should include:
Listen to the episode for all of Hans’ expert tips on building a successful partner channel.
Read the blog: https://www.magentrix.com/articles/blog/3-Expert-Tips-on-Building-a-Successful-5-5-2022
(0:00) Introduction
(2:14) Hans Peter Bech’s background in channel sales
(4:00) Mapping out a channel strategy: how it impacts the success of the channel
(7:23) Planning for a successful channel: the biggest misconception
(8:39) What makes an exceptional channel partner?
(09:20) 1st Tip: Define goals from day 1
(16:14) 2nd Tip: The channel partners
(29:19) 3rd Tip: Managing the channel partners
(36:06) When does building a successful channel pay off?
(37:12) What results can you expect?
(39:09) Conclusion
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Preparing your channel partners for success involves taking a customized approach, consistent attentiveness and active listening skills. Your work doesn’t end after partner onboarding - it is a continuous effort. Pay careful attention to:
In this episode of The Ultimate Channel Sales Podcast, we bring on Ben Cornett (works with channel partners in a partner marketing capacity, currently directing Verified First’s partner marketing division) who shares his insights on why nurturing channel partnerships is so important, as well as best practices and tips on how to use these insights to uncover untapped channel sales.
Ben tells us there are two main reasons why nurturing partners is crucial:
Listen to the episode to hear the rest of Ben’s advice on how you can make the most of your channel partner efforts.
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(0:00) Introduction
(2:08) Ben Cornett’s background in channel partner marketing
(6:01) Top 3 best practices for effectively nurturing channel partners
(10:37) Why it's important to nurture channel partners
(12:10) How to keep channel partners engaged
(15:18) Training and education materials for nurturing relationships with channel partners
(17:53) When to end a channel partnership
(20:29) Proper nurture methods translate to higher sales and channel growth
(24:36) Conclusion
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Our guest today, Kathleen Phillips, has been in channel-related roles for over 20 years. Her portfolio includes leading teams that have generated more than 100 million dollars in new revenue and successfully launched over 35 disruptive products, solutions and services. Today, she is the Head of Global Partnerships and Strategic Alliances at Digital River.
Topic summary:
The keys to building any relationship where both parties benefit mutually and equally are transparency, commitment and trust. These key concepts should be at the heart of every partner program and every activity in a partner program should lead back to helping flesh out one of these key areas.
They are the building blocks for a mutually and equally beneficial partner program, and how you can use them to build yours is the discussion we’re going to have in this episode of the Ultimate Channel Sales Podcast.
Kathleen discusses how to build a mutually and equally beneficial partner program including:
Listen to the episode for Kathleen’s insights on these topics and more.
Read the blog: https://www.magentrix.com/articles/blog/How-to-Build-a-Mutually-Equally-7-4-2022
(0:00) Introduction
(2:21) Kathleen Phillips’ background in channel sales
(3:46) How to show commitment to partners from the start?
(6:40) Channel partner training and alignment across the partner organization
(8:28) Shrinking time to revenue and increasing the value of partnerships
(10:17) Partner enablement - make sure your partner is effectively representing you
(13:47) Partner incentives, spiffs & rewards - what’s the best approach?
(16:45) MDF & co-op marketing
(17:52) Maintaining transparency and trust with partners
(19:41) Dedicated partner account managers vs. a team managing partners
(21:08) Tools for effective partner management
(22:32) What should channel partners do to maintain a mutually beneficial relationship
(23:58) The benefits of a partner portal
(25:10) What results can you expect from following a symbiotic approach?
(26:27) Taking your channel program to the next level
(27:49) Conclusion
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Magentrix is a pioneer in platforms for partner ecosystem management and partner relationship management 🤝
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Our guest today, Autum Grimm, is not only an innovator, but also a pioneer, in a division of the channel space that had been left completely unexplored before the birth of her company. Today, she is responsible for revenue, demand generation, operations and business development as CRO at PartnerTap, a leading enterprise Partner Ecosystem Platform that allows companies to automate account mapping, control data shared with each partner, and enable sales teams to cross-sell with partners.
Topic summary:
Growth of your partnerships can sometimes take a direction that may demand a new set of requirements to keep your partners engaged.
Dealing with any unforeseen situations can best be avoided by planning early & carefully, and regularly checking in with partners and tracking efforts.
Take care of your partners and your partners will take care of you. This, is how you truly reap long-term benefits for years to come.
Autum shares the 3 best kept secrets to creating long-term revenue streams within the channel:
Listen to the episode for all of Autum’s insights on achieving success within the channel.
Read the blog: https://www.magentrix.com/articles/blog/3-Best-Kept-Secrets-to-Creating-16-2-2022
(0:00) Introduction
(2:16) Autum Grimm’s background as a channel leader
(2:43) What do organizations need to consider if creating long-term revenue through partnerships is their end-goal?
(3:04) Secret #1: Build strong relationships with your channel partners
(5:29) Secret #2: Have a winning channel strategy
(10:46) Building loyalty and engaging channel partners
(13:55) Enabling partners to meet their goals
(15:54) When to give up on an unsuccessful partnership
(18:39) Secret #3: Track and measure success with your channel partners
(26:31) Invest in yourself as a channel professional
(27:48) Conclusion
This production is brought to you by Magentrix ✨💜
Magentrix is a pioneer in platforms for partner ecosystem management and partner relationship management 🤝
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In this episode of The Ultimate Channel Sales Podcast, we bring on Matt Soloman. He has been in channel-related roles for nearly a decade. Currently, he is the Chief Business Development Officer & Co-Founder of a consultancy, The Channel Program. He is also the CEO of Channel Halo and he runs an insightful channel-related newsletter: Navigating the IT Channel.
Topic summary:
As we know, channel sales is an efficient way to cast a wider net and increase sales – But, did you realize that your channel partner program is also one of the greatest marketing tools you’ll ever have?
Acting as agents on your behalf, channel partners engage in a variety of activities to promote a vendor, and all this additional marketing for your brand can really help build its authority far beyond what you may be capable of independently.
So, what can you do to get the most out of the marketing opportunities from your partnerships and strengthen your brand authority, as much as possible via partners?
Matt discusses how channel partners help build a brand’s authority including:
Listen to the episode to hear Matt cover these topics and more.
Read the blog: https://www.magentrix.com/articles/blog/How-Channel-Partners-Help-Build-a-1-2-2022
(0:00) Introduction
(2:11) Matt Soloman’s background in channel sales
(4:36) The Channel Program
(7:42) Channel partners building a brand's authority: what to define in the channel marketing strategy?
(9:19) How to strengthen partner relationships and differentiate yourself from other vendors
(13:26) Measuring the success of your efforts: can you use KPIs?
(15:21) Through-partner marketing best practices
(20:38) Partner-vendor joint-marketing activities for high ROI
(24:06) Setting realistic expectations for through-partner marketing
(25:25) How to reverse the damage of a partnership that is affecting the ecosystem
(27:14) 3 best practices for enabling your channel partners to build your brand authority
(31:05) Can the growth rate of a vendor's channel be too fast?
(34:39) Conclusion
This production is brought to you by Magentrix ✨💜
Magentrix is a pioneer in platforms for partner ecosystem management and partner relationship management 🤝
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