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Alaska"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2040.03,"endTime":2043.66,"body":"Wagoner, this is so fun to have"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2040.03,"endTime":2043.66,"body":"you on the show. And good luck"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2043.66,"endTime":2046.6,"body":"at the festivals. I wish. I wish"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2043.66,"endTime":2046.6,"body":"I could be at one of them there."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2047.26,"endTime":2051.43,"body":"There hasn't been one like, in"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2047.26,"endTime":2051.43,"body":"the northeast, like within"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2051.43,"endTime":2054.52,"body":"driving distance for me for a"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2051.43,"endTime":2054.52,"body":"couple of years. But I'm hoping"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2054.52,"endTime":2056.65,"body":"that there'll be something soon"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2054.52,"endTime":2056.65,"body":"to go to."},{"speaker":"Alaska Wagoner","startTime":2057.46,"endTime":2060.61,"body":"Yeah, yeah, for"},{"speaker":"Alaska Wagoner","startTime":2057.46,"endTime":2060.61,"body":"sure. Well, well, thank you so"},{"speaker":"Alaska Wagoner","startTime":2060.61,"endTime":2063.34,"body":"much for having me on. This was"},{"speaker":"Alaska Wagoner","startTime":2060.61,"endTime":2063.34,"body":"this was really, really fun. And"},{"speaker":"Alaska Wagoner","startTime":2063.76,"endTime":2067.78,"body":"I'm happy, happy to meet you."},{"speaker":"Alaska Wagoner","startTime":2063.76,"endTime":2067.78,"body":"And I definitely hope to cross"},{"speaker":"Alaska Wagoner","startTime":2067.78,"endTime":2069.01,"body":"paths someday at a festival."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2070.06,"endTime":2072.64,"body":"Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2070.06,"endTime":2072.64,"body":"to Alaska Wagoner for being a"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2072.64,"endTime":2075.85,"body":"guest on the show today. You can"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2072.64,"endTime":2075.85,"body":"find the show notes, including a"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2075.85,"endTime":2079.81,"body":"complete transcript and lots of"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2075.85,"endTime":2079.81,"body":"photos of Alaska's tiny house at"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2080.2,"endTime":2086.68,"body":"thetinyhouse.net/204. Again,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2080.2,"endTime":2086.68,"body":"that's thetinyhouse.net/204."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2087.25,"endTime":2089.83,"body":"Well, that's all for this week."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2087.25,"endTime":2089.83,"body":"I'm your host, Ethan Waldman."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2089.83,"endTime":2092.56,"body":"And I'll be back next week with"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2089.83,"endTime":2092.56,"body":"another episode of the Tiny"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2092.56,"endTime":2094.12,"body":"House Lifestyle Podcast."}]}