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It's so fun to be here."},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2961.11,"endTime":2965.97,"body":"Anyone feel free to reach out"},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2961.11,"endTime":2965.97,"body":"with any any questions. If, if"},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2965.97,"endTime":2969.03,"body":"you want to look at specific"},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2965.97,"endTime":2969.03,"body":"properties, you definitely can"},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2969.03,"endTime":2973.77,"body":"contact my sales gal Kristy. And"},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2969.03,"endTime":2973.77,"body":"her email is sales."},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2978.42,"endTime":2979.68,"body":"Sales@GenFamLand.com."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2980.79,"endTime":2983.19,"body":"Awesome. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2980.79,"endTime":2983.19,"body":"And I'll put links to all that"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2983.55,"endTime":2986.1,"body":"on the show notes for this for"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2983.55,"endTime":2986.1,"body":"this episode, too."},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2986.55,"endTime":2988.29,"body":"All right. Well,"},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2986.55,"endTime":2988.29,"body":"thank you, Ethan. Appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2988.36,"endTime":2993.19,"body":"Thank you so much to Dave"},{"speaker":"Dave Denniston","startTime":2988.36,"endTime":2993.19,"body":"Denniston for being a guest on"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2988.38,"endTime":2988.98,"body":"Thanks, Dave."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2993.19,"endTime":2996.43,"body":"the show today. You can find the"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2993.19,"endTime":2996.43,"body":"show notes including a complete"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2996.43,"endTime":3000.81,"body":"transcript, links to Gen Fam"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2996.43,"endTime":3000.81,"body":"Properties, and the Land Stories"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":3000.81,"endTime":3006.15,"body":"podcast and so much more over at"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":3000.81,"endTime":3006.15,"body":"thetinyhouse.net/220. Again,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":3006.15,"endTime":3011.52,"body":"that's thetinyhouse.net/220."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":3006.15,"endTime":3011.52,"body":"Well, that's all for this week."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":3011.52,"endTime":3014.13,"body":"I'm your host, Ethan Waldman,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":3011.52,"endTime":3014.13,"body":"and I'll be back next week with"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":3014.13,"endTime":3017.43,"body":"another episode of the Tiny"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":3014.13,"endTime":3017.43,"body":"House Lifestyle Podcast."}]}