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So thanks for thanks"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2471.19,"endTime":2473.2,"body":"for coming on."},{"speaker":"Sarah Spiro","startTime":2474.01,"endTime":2475.72,"body":"Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Sarah Spiro","startTime":2474.01,"endTime":2475.72,"body":"for having us. It was really"},{"speaker":"Sarah Spiro","startTime":2475.72,"endTime":2476.08,"body":"fun."},{"speaker":"Brandon Jones","startTime":2476.11,"endTime":2476.74,"body":"Appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2478.66,"endTime":2481.66,"body":"Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2478.66,"endTime":2481.66,"body":"to Sarah and Brandon for being"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2481.66,"endTime":2484.66,"body":"guests on the show today. You"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2481.66,"endTime":2484.66,"body":"can find the show notes"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2484.66,"endTime":2489.58,"body":"including a complete transcript,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2484.66,"endTime":2489.58,"body":"a YouTube tour and a couple"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2489.58,"endTime":2493.9,"body":"other video links and photos of"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2489.58,"endTime":2493.9,"body":"Sarah and Brandon's unique"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2493.9,"endTime":2498.67,"body":"floating house at"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2493.9,"endTime":2498.67,"body":"thetinyhouse.net/231. Again,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2498.67,"endTime":2504.07,"body":"that's thetinyhouse.net/231."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2498.67,"endTime":2504.07,"body":"Well, that is all for this week."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2504.1,"endTime":2506.77,"body":"I'm your host Ethan Waldman, and"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2504.1,"endTime":2506.77,"body":"I'll be back next week with"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2506.77,"endTime":2510.85,"body":"another episode of the Tiny"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2506.77,"endTime":2510.85,"body":"House Lifestyle Podcast."}]}