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And people"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4341.941,"endTime":4346.432,"body":"can again, check out the show"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4346.508,"endTime":4350.771,"body":"notes for the episode where they"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4346.508,"endTime":4350.771,"body":"can see we'll embed the"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4350.847,"endTime":4355.642,"body":"PowerPoint presentation. And we"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4350.847,"endTime":4355.642,"body":"might also just share the video"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4355.719,"endTime":4360.209,"body":"publicly. People can kind of"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4355.719,"endTime":4360.209,"body":"watch you go through it. Can't"},{"speaker":"Bill Knapp","startTime":4359.06,"endTime":4360.98,"body":"Oh, you're welcome."},{"speaker":"Bill Knapp","startTime":4360.286,"endTime":4361.58,"body":"thank you enough."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4360.98,"endTime":4363.937,"body":"Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4360.98,"endTime":4363.937,"body":"to Bill nap for being a guest on"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4363.997,"endTime":4367.605,"body":"the show today. You can find the"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4363.997,"endTime":4367.605,"body":"show notes, including all of"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4367.665,"endTime":4371.451,"body":"those slides all the images that"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4367.665,"endTime":4371.451,"body":"Bill was looking at and we were"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4371.51,"endTime":4375.178,"body":"talking about, there's so much"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4371.51,"endTime":4375.178,"body":"great detail in what he shares."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4375.237,"endTime":4377.663,"body":"So I definitely recommend"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4375.237,"endTime":4377.663,"body":"heading over to"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4377.722,"endTime":4381.39,"body":"thetinyhouse.net/247 to check"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4377.722,"endTime":4381.39,"body":"out the show notes and check out"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4381.449,"endTime":4385.058,"body":"that PowerPoint presentation."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4381.449,"endTime":4385.058,"body":"There. You'll also find a video"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4385.117,"endTime":4387.661,"body":"version of today's interview."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4385.117,"endTime":4387.661,"body":"Again, that's"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4387.72,"endTime":4391.092,"body":"thetinyhouse.net/247. Well,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4387.72,"endTime":4391.092,"body":"that's all for this week. I'm"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4391.151,"endTime":4394.464,"body":"your host Ethan Waldman, and"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4391.151,"endTime":4394.464,"body":"I'll be back next week with"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4394.523,"endTime":4397.6,"body":"another episode of the Tiny"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":4394.523,"endTime":4397.6,"body":"House Lifestyle Podcast."}]}