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We're so honored that you"},{"speaker":"Elisa Boots","startTime":2884.65,"endTime":2886.27,"body":"asked us to come on the show."},{"speaker":"Ryk Hall","startTime":2887.56,"endTime":2889.48,"body":"Yeah, thank you,"},{"speaker":"Ryk Hall","startTime":2887.56,"endTime":2889.48,"body":"Ethan. It's been really"},{"speaker":"Ryk Hall","startTime":2889.48,"endTime":2890.05,"body":"enjoyable."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2891.85,"endTime":2894.46,"body":"Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2891.85,"endTime":2894.46,"body":"to Elisa and Ryk for being"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2894.46,"endTime":2896.92,"body":"guests. On the show today. You"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2894.46,"endTime":2896.92,"body":"can find the show notes,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2896.92,"endTime":2900.76,"body":"including photos of both tiny"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2896.92,"endTime":2900.76,"body":"houses, a video tour of both"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2900.76,"endTime":2904.06,"body":"tiny houses, and as always a"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2900.76,"endTime":2904.06,"body":"complete written transcript of"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2904.06,"endTime":2909.16,"body":"this interview. That's all at"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2904.06,"endTime":2909.16,"body":"thetinyhouse.net/258. Again,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2909.28,"endTime":2911.8,"body":"thetinyhouse.net/258."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2912.1,"endTime":2915.4,"body":"Thank you so much to PODX Go for"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2912.1,"endTime":2915.4,"body":"being the sponsor of this"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2915.4,"endTime":2919.54,"body":"episode. You can learn more"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2915.4,"endTime":2919.54,"body":"about PODX Go and the Grande S1"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2919.57,"endTime":2922.54,"body":"tiny house at PODXGo.com."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2922.99,"endTime":2925.78,"body":"Well, that's all for this week."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2922.99,"endTime":2925.78,"body":"I'm your host, Ethan Waldman,"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2925.78,"endTime":2928.69,"body":"and I'll be back next week with"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2925.78,"endTime":2928.69,"body":"another episode of the Tiny"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":2928.69,"endTime":2930.25,"body":"House Lifestyle Podcast."}]}