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One thing that I like"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1623.9,"endTime":1626.42,"body":"to ask all my guests is, are"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1623.9,"endTime":1626.42,"body":"there any books or other"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1626.42,"endTime":1629.36,"body":"resources that you'd like to"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1626.42,"endTime":1629.36,"body":"recommend to our audience?"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1640.55,"endTime":1646.25,"body":"Well, I've been I"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1640.55,"endTime":1646.25,"body":"have been interviewed on two"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1648.47,"endTime":1656.48,"body":"YouTube channels. So tiny home"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1648.47,"endTime":1656.48,"body":"tours was the last one. And that"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1656.6,"endTime":1660.68,"body":"just aired at you might have"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1656.6,"endTime":1660.68,"body":"seen that one. In fact, that"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1660.68,"endTime":1666.65,"body":"just aired like a month ago."},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1660.68,"endTime":1666.65,"body":"Yep. Six weeks ago. And so if"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1666.65,"endTime":1671.0,"body":"anybody wants to go check that"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1666.65,"endTime":1671.0,"body":"out, then they will see the full"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1671.0,"endTime":1672.17,"body":"tour of my home."},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1672.89,"endTime":1677.0,"body":"Excellent. I'll"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1672.89,"endTime":1677.0,"body":"definitely post a link to that"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1677.0,"endTime":1679.85,"body":"in the show notes for this"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1677.0,"endTime":1679.85,"body":"episode, which I'll tell people"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1679.85,"endTime":1683.12,"body":"what that link is in the outro"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1679.85,"endTime":1683.12,"body":"of the show. Great. Thank you so"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1683.12,"endTime":1685.37,"body":"much for being a guest on the"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1683.12,"endTime":1685.37,"body":"show today. It was great to meet"},{"speaker":"Ethan Waldman","startTime":1685.37,"endTime":1685.58,"body":"you."},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1686.54,"endTime":1688.7,"body":"Thank you so"},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1686.54,"endTime":1688.7,"body":"much. I really appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Cindy Ballero","startTime":1688.79,"endTime":1689.81,"body":"Have a great day."}]}