Well, Ches, really good, again, information. All of us have anxiety about being courageous, but some really good learnings from Margie about how we break through that fear. What did you take away? Yeah, first, I love her story, that she grew up in the bush, in the outback, and she was stepping out of her comfort zone the oldest of seven kids that That'll give you a lot of life lessons right there I I really like when she said focus on the right on the right place. You know we get stuck in our stories. Yeah Focus on where you want that story to go and the word that really popped out to me that I wrote in big letters was rescript Rescript. Rescript your story, you know? That stress when you tell the bad story, your throat gets tight and your chest gets tight. Rescript it and tell yourself the story that you want the positive outcome to be and just breathe and get there. So, rescript was the big word that popped up for me. Because I know you sparked to this too. She said, you know, anxiety or lack of courage is this fearful thought about an unwanted future state. And she says, it's the story we tell ourselves. Oh, nobody's gonna wanna hear from me. Or if I raise my voice up, I'll get fired. And 99 times out of 100, none of those things are going to happen. And also, what's the opposite? We live in a world where we have no voice and we're not able to be ourselves. That's a lousy way to live. So as she says, be mindful of how you describe things, especially self-limiting behaviors and self-limiting thoughts. I think that's really powerful. Yeah. It was really fun when she said, right size your fear. Walk around the block like you're the king of the canyon. Stand tall. She quoted one of my favorite coaches, Coach Wooden, when he says that. He says, it's not how tall you are, it's how tall you play. And that was it. Make peace with discomfort. I know you and I talk a lot about that, you know, be comfortable with being uncomfortable. Well, the word is uncomfortable. I like when she says make peace with that. Yeah, that's a much more positive – that approach spoke more to me than just get comfortable It does because we always tell leaders. Okay, stop telling your people to get comfortable being uncomfortable Uncomfortable but making peace with it is better because it's going to be the world is uncomfortable right now It's not going to stop every company we go into every organization is going through tremendous change It's like and every time we talk with an organization before we go they say we're going through a lot of change. What we have to tell them is everybody is right now. And your people have to get, like I said, get used to it, make peace with it. And that's where leaders come in. And so I love what she said about, you know, first, courage, it's first about managing our fear. Doesn't mean we can get rid of it. We manage it. We're not, we shouldn't be as afraid as we think we should be. Then secondly, you take action in the presence of fear, which any soldier will tell you, that's how you take the hill. Yeah, you're afraid, but you take action in the presence of fear. Yeah. Lastly, forgive yourself. I think that's a tough one for everybody. We beat ourselves up more than anybody else would beat ourselves up. Give yourself a little grace. Forgive yourself and know that you're going to mess up. Everybody messes up. Put it behind you. Put that action plan in place and move forward. I mean, Markie made fun of some guy talking too much in a meeting, but you forgave her, right? Yeah, Chatty Chester, brought back horrible memories of being in school. Chatterbox Chester, actually. Anyway, lastly for me was I loved her self-practice, How Do You Start Your Day? You know, I love that Earl Grey, wasn't that such the English sort of Commonwealth, Australian? Earl Grey with some milk, just calm your spirits and read something that's edifying. So often we start our days, our phone goes off, it's our alarm, and we go right to the news of the day or the sports scores or whatever. That's a good reminder for me to pull up something that's going to edify you, that's going to build you up as opposed to cause more anxiety and worry. And just when I think of courageous people, you know who I'm going to mention right now. You know, and you know, he's a guy that has such an impact on our lives. Even when he's sick, like literally on his deathbed, he shows up for us. And of course, it's the indomitable. The amazing, the one, the only Brent Klein, our producer. We want to thank we want to thank Christie Lawrence, who helps us bring in such amazing guests. And to all of you who listened in. Thank you. If you like the podcast, download it, share it. We'd also love you to visit thecultureworks.com for free resources, and of course, pick up a copy of our book, Anxiety at Work, which will help you and your team thrive during tough times. Yeah, I mean, and you can buy Margie's book too, but then add, you know, in the thing, put our book. You know, as you buy the Courage Cat, go ahead and put in Anxiety at Work. Hey, listen, we love speaking to audiences and we do all over the world, whether it's in person or virtually. We talk about topics like culture, teamwork, resilience. Give us a call. We'd love to talk to you about your event and see how we can support you there. Really a lot of fun. Love Margie. She just has so many practical ideas. And as always, Adrian, you get the last word. Well, thanks, Niles. Until next time, I wish you the best of mental health. You know, nobody's going to get that joke but you and me.