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I Stole My Ex’s Car And Still Want Monogamy Ft. Emily & Miya - Ep.172
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Special thanks to Emily & Miya for being a part of this episode of Unattainable Podcast Show
We trace love, betrayal, and recovery through candid stories of long-distance cheating, messy confrontations, and the strange clarity that follows hard endings. We weigh monogamy against openness, debate masculine and feminine energy, and push beyond slogans to the daily work of reciprocity.
• LA dating culture as ambition-first environment
• Phone unlock confrontation and the bathroom standoff
• Revenge story and boundaries after a breakup
• Micro cheating, double standards, and gendered narratives
• Can love recover after infidelity and what it takes
• Monogamy, energy transfer, and honest preferences
• Masculine vs feminine energy and reciprocity in practice
• Standards, “the prize” mindset, and delusion online
• Body count, experience, and judgment without shame
• Height, money, size, and sexual compatibility as realities
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Cold Open: Chaos And Confessions
SPEAKER_04People come here because they're following a dream. He's like banging on the door, like trying to like get in the bathroom, and I'm like, and what's this? And what's this? Like going through the bathroom and then he ends up like banging the door down. Every time that I cheated on you and make me love you more, I decided that if you're gonna take my shit, that I'm gonna steal your car. You can't always like control what like someone else does.
SPEAKER_02Less of me, more him, but towards the end, I completely fucked him over. There were like multiple instances. I would catch him doing like basically like micro cheating. When guys cheat, people are like, that's what guys do.
SPEAKER_04But when girls cheat, it's like, you're looking bad person. He like fucks another girl the next day. Relationships are amazing. I think that they can be very like beneficial with the right person, but when you're with the wrong person, like it can suck the life out of you.
SPEAKER_02Having sex with someone, like it's intimate. It's supposed to be intimate. And like I do not believe that if you're if we're in a relationship, like I will be okay with like knowing you're doing that with other people. I only have two bodies, so I'm like, I don't like you're digging yourself a deeper, deeper hole the more you just kind of like throw yourself, share yourself out there because you never know what other people are going through, what like burdens they carry. I hate men. I hate all men. Like we just take and fuck down.
Show Intro And Guest Intros
SPEAKER_05Welcome to Unattainable. Glad to have you with us. I'm your host, Zach Evans, along here with my co-host Mohammed Molay. And first of all, thank you to all of our listeners. We've been getting a ton of growth and engagement over the last few weeks. Uh so today we got a special, couple special guests for you guys. Why don't you guys go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience, your name, what you do, and your star sign. And you can go first.
SPEAKER_04Wow, star signs. I like this already. Um, my name's Emily Phelps. I own a med spa called Heaven on Sunset on the Sunset Strip. And my star sign is cancer.
SPEAKER_05Awesome. And how about you?
SPEAKER_02Hi, I'm Mia Pierre. I'm a fitness influencer, you can say. I mostly post on TikTok, but I've been starting to post on Instagram, and my star sign is a Taurus.
SPEAKER_05A Taurus?
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05I know all about you guys. I didn't expect you to be a Taurus. Really?
SPEAKER_02I don't I've never really gotten into like oh, you're this or you're this. Like, I've never really done that before. But what does that mean?
SPEAKER_05Taurus are very fun, okay, but um a little bit dangerous. Okay. A little bit dangerous. Okay. Bad for my mental health, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, okay, reasonable.
SPEAKER_05But uh, but uh I have a funny tourist story, actually, I'll tell you guys later. But um, first of all, let me ask you guys I think you'll have an interesting opinion on this. LA is kind of known as being a very difficult place to date. It's like there's sociopaths, there's like sugar daddies, there's fake people. How has your guys' dating experience been in LA and how does it kind of relate to where you've maybe came from and what did you kind of learn from it? And we'll start with you.
LA Dating Culture And Early Betrayals
SPEAKER_04Oh man. I actually moved to LA in 2012. Uh my college sweetheart actually moved here before I did. And this was back when Instagram like just became a thing. Um and I moved here like maybe a year after he did. And uh we were together for like seven years. I came out here, I started establishing my like beauty um business, and he was like very much in the club scene, so he would always like have all these girls that he was around and stuff, and he would send them to me and they would become my clients. And sounds healthy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04After about a year of doing that, um, I got very close to my clients, and a lot of them started talking, and I eventually figured out that like pretty much the whole time that we are long distance, that he was cheating on me with like all these Instagram models at the time. Um yeah, so uh that was really fun. Uh ended that relationship and was single for the first time after that. Um being single in LA was like fun in my 20s, but I'm a little older now, so it's a little bit more difficult. Um, but yeah, I've had a few uh not so great experiences personally in LA.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Okay. I honestly like I have not really explored the scene. I recently just moved here. So I am kind of dealing with like like obviously college right now, but I haven't really been to like explored a lot of LA. I just dealing with a lot of like amateur like stuff right now, like frats, honestly. Um yeah, but I don't really, it's not really my top tier, you know, top tier guys. Yeah, like I don't know. I think everyone's just figuring themselves out, but back at home, I think everyone was kind of I was really locked in and focused with like what I had to do. Obviously, like I'm going to UCLA right now, so that was kind of my priority, and I think that with the gym and everything, I'm constantly in a state of like I need to evolve and grow. So do you do you think that relationships like like hold you back?
SPEAKER_04Well, I think in LA specifically, most people come here because I mean I've heard this actually be said in so many different ways, but people come here because they're following a dream, and I think that is usually more important than being in a relationship. 100% um specifically for people in L LA because you're coming here because you want to be an actor or model, or like a lot of people move here for that reason. Um and I think it's like not really part of the culture. Like if you go to the South in Texas, like people are getting married a lot younger and like starting families a lot younger. Um, but out here I don't feel like that's like a forefront for people.
SPEAKER_05It's a very fast-moving environment. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01How old were you when you um were dating your ex?
SPEAKER_04So I moved here when I was 24. Yeah, so I was 24, and I think we broke up around like 26. So when I was 26 was the first time I was like really single, I guess.
SPEAKER_01So you started dating when you were 19 in Texas. Yeah. And then you guys were together for seven years, and the the what period were you guys long distance?
SPEAKER_04Uh, I guess
The Phone, The Bathroom, And The Breakup
SPEAKER_04like I was like 22, 23. He was like a few years older than me, too.
SPEAKER_01Um few years being how many years?
SPEAKER_04Uh four years older than me.
SPEAKER_01Okay. And then so, and then when you broke up, you broke up when you were in LA.
SPEAKER_04Yes, we broke up in LA. How did I I can't remember how I oh I think I went through his phone. That's what happened. He was asleep one night. Well, because there was a lot of buildup. So it wasn't like I wasn't really that kind of person, but it was like all of these like red flags kept coming up, people kept telling me things, and of course I was crazy for thinking these things and whatever. And one night he came home, he uh he wasn't answering his phone that night, I remember, and I was so mad he came home and he fell asleep on the couch, and it was when the you had the thumbprint on the phone, it was before the facial recognition, and you did that while he was sleeping. And so he was asleep, and I took his hand and put it on the phone, and I just went to town, and I was just like, and like halfway through it, I was so mad and emotional. I remember I went in there and started like beating him with a pillow. Yeah, and I was just like, what the fuck? And he's waking up out of his sleep, like, what's going on? And I'm like, what's this? And then he kind of like came to, and I remember thinking, like, wait, you didn't like go all the way through his phone. So I ran back to the bathroom and locked myself in the bathroom. Oh my god. And he's like banging on the door, like trying to like get in the bathroom, and I'm like, and what's this? And what's this? Like going through the bathroom, and then he ends up like banging the door down, and uh so he broke the door down and then did what? I mean, nothing like physical happened or anything. He took his phone back, and you know, it was just a whole chaotic situation. How do you try to like justify it? Like, what do you say? Um I don't think he could justify it in that moment. I think there was a lot of justifying that went on like months prior to that that like couldn't be justified anymore. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The main question is what did you even see?
SPEAKER_04Oh man, it was just like him trying to like there was like certain girls that had like started telling me stuff because you know they were my clients or whatever, and it was like him messaging them, being like, Why would you tell her that? Like, da-da-da-da, and you know, so it was like him trying to cover his tracks, and then you know, there was other situations like, you know, let's take this to the grave, and you know, whatever.
SPEAKER_01So but was he so so okay, was this that he was texting girls and like flirting with them and like say saying these things, or would you find proof that like he was actually hooking up with them?
SPEAKER_04It was like hooking up for sure, yeah. Got it, and like the messed up part was like at this point I had also created friendships with some of these people, and so it was it was messed up because they also were keeping these secrets from me, you know what I mean? And they like kind of knew what was going on, so I was kind of in the dark about things, and that was like you know, I felt really stupid and really like embarrassed, of course.
SPEAKER_01The amateur mistake part of the whole situation is that he was hooking up with these girls and then referring them to you and connecting the dots himself, which is which is just uh it was fucked up because he was low-key still trying to help out by business, you know, because that also helped him out away, you know, like it's it's it's a classic way of a person subconsciously wanting to get caught, and so typically people who do things like this uh feel guilty deep down and want to get caught to a certain extent, and so they just do these random, unthinkable things that you'd be like, huh, it doesn't even make any sense. Why would you do this? Yeah, nah, I think it was just dumb. I don't believe all that. Oh, subconscious.
SPEAKER_04I think he wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
SPEAKER_05Just get caught then.
SPEAKER_04Well, listen, one of the most fucked
Revenge, Boundaries, And Stealing The Car
SPEAKER_04up things, and this actually fucked with me for a long time, was I remember asking him, like, why would you do that? Like, what was the purpose? Like, why not just like be single, you know? And he was like, I really don't know because like every time that I cheated on you, it made me love you more.
SPEAKER_05And I was like, That sounds like a gaslight.
SPEAKER_04That is so fucked up. Because why wouldn't you just stop after the first time if you realized so how many times? Oh, it was numerous times, like probably at least 10, if not more.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you know, there's a secret trick you can use to find out if a guy's seeing other girls. A girl did it to me, actually. That's how I know about it. It was genius.
SPEAKER_04Okay, let's hear this.
SPEAKER_05So, okay, actually, it was a Taurus, too. So I'm on a I'm on a third date with this Taurus, right? And we're at catch. Everything's good. She seems like the most sweet little innocent angel, you know, everything at the time. And all of a sudden, I see my ex and she's walking toward us. And this is like my fiery act. So I'm like, oh, what is she gonna do this time? You know what I mean? Yeah, so she comes over, hey, good to see you, Zach, like gives me a big hug and kind of like holds the hug too long, where I'm kind of like, all right, my date's like literally right here, like it's kind of awkward. So I'm like, I introduce them, but I don't tell my date that that's my ex. I'm just like, oh, that's my friend Laura. And then all of a sudden they like hit it off and they like become best friends in the moment. Oh my god, I love your address, and I guess they've worked with like a lot of the same photographers and they know some of the same mutuals and stuff, and they never get each other's contact information. So I'm like, all right, I think I dodged a bullet, I think I'm good. But then the next day, I get a knock on the door, and so I go downstairs, open the door, nobody's there, and so I look down, and there's this big like bouquet of flowers like by the door. And so I pick up the note and I open the note, and there's no name on the note, it's just like a smiley face, and not like the emoji, like the serial killer, like the two dots and the little semicolon, like that smiley face. So I'm like, is my friend cranky line? I'm like, yeah, exactly right. I'm like, is my mom being weird again? Like, what the fuck? But then I look closer and I notice that they're French tulips, and I remember she had told me on the first date that French tulips were her favorite flower. Okay, so I'm like, oh shit. So I FaceTime her, she picks up, she's with her friend, and I'm like, hey, I just want to say thank you so much for the flowers. Like, that was very thoughtful of you. And her and her friend look at each other and they start dying laughing, like cracking up. And I'm like, What? And her friend's like, You passed the test, Zach, you passed the test. And Charles's like, No, no, don't tell him, don't tell him. I'm like, what's the test? And she goes, Okay, fine. And she goes, I didn't know if you were still seeing the girl from last night, so I got you anonymous flowers, and if you knew that they were from me, it means you're not seeing other girls. But if you didn't know, that means you are seeing other girls.
SPEAKER_02Why would she get you the tulips that she said they were her favorite if she really wanted to be like I think she wasn't maybe the smartest?
SPEAKER_05Or maybe that was one hint that it was gonna be her. But like, because on the first, I mean she said it like off-handed. It's not like we had some big discussion about her favorite flowers and stuff. I don't know if that's why. But I was like, I was also like, wait, how did you know that was my ex? Because I had never told her that. And she points at the phone and she goes, Zach, Tauruses know everything, never forget it. And they start like laughing again. And I was like, it was crazy though, because we dated for like two years, and all my friends are like, Oh, she's crazy, she's psycho, because she would like do stuff like that.
SPEAKER_04But I actually think she was just like misunderstood because she was actually like one of the most caring people I ever dated, but it's like she's it's thoughtful, but it's also because she's trying to she's not being manipulative, but she's trying to like figure you out in a way, in her own way, yeah, for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_01So you so when you broke up with him, um you broke up in LA, right? Yes because you guys were living together at that time. Yes, and how did that go?
SPEAKER_04How did the breakup go? Sure. I mean, as far as like yeah, it was a little bit weird because we were living together at the time, and oh man, it there was like a lot of back and forth because technically it was my place, so I was you know kicking him out of my place, but he still had things there, so he would like randomly either go over there when I was at work and like get things or whatever. And um, oh, there was one one time where we got into an argument, I can't remember what it was about, but like he went over to my house and like took a bunch of my shit, like things that like he knew that would upset me. I won't say what they were, but certain little things that he knew that I would know were missing, or you know, whatever. So he took some of my stuff. I get home from work, and I realized that there's a few things that were missing, and I was like, oh, this motherfucker. Um, and I remember calling him and being like, Oh, like you just wait, like it may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but I'm gonna get you back, right? So I like go out and like party with my friends, and um I knew where he was staying because he was staying with like one of his friends I knew that he was staying at, and go out to the club that night, and I'm on the way home, and I'm in the Uber, and I tell the Uber driver, I'm like, hey, actually, like take a detour down here because I wanted to go see if like his car was parked at his friend's house. And so his car's there, and I like reach my purse and I forgot that I had his spare key to his car
First Love Lessons And Moral Lines
SPEAKER_04with me. So um I decided that if you're gonna take my shit, that I'm gonna steal your car. Oh my gosh. Jesus. So I was like, you know what, Uber? You can like drop me off here. I'm good. And I get in his car and I drive home. And the next morning I had like all these missed calls from him or whatever, and I finally answered the phone, and he's like, Oh my god, like I think my car got stolen last night. Oh my god, did you take my car? And I was like, I don't know. Did I take your car? Oh my god, did you take some of my stuff? And he's like, Yep, I get mad. He's like going off, and I'm like, Well, we could do a trade if you want, yeah, and I'll tell you where your car is at. And I didn't even park it at my house, I parked it like down the street somewhere where like, you know, whatever. So I remember I was hungover that day too, because I had gone out the night before, and um he's like, I'm I'm gonna come get my car, and I like intentionally was not home when he got there. Like went to in and out with my dog, and so he gets to the house, like, where's my car? It's not in the garage. He's like going crazy. And I ended up pulling up with my dog, my little Pomeranian, out of the car, and he's sitting there, and it was like a hundred degrees outside, and he's sitting on the stairs, just like sweating. And I pull up and I'm like, Hey, how are you? Um, so yeah, I stole my ex's car for revenge.
SPEAKER_01Weren't you scared that he was gonna call the cops?
SPEAKER_04I mean, you live with me. Like, your stuff is in my house.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh. We and then she could be like, Well, he stole stuff from me to the cops, you know.
SPEAKER_04I mean, technically in in Texas, it would be common law marriage. I don't know what the the laws are. Yeah, but you weren't in Texas. Well, you know what, honey? Call the cops. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I'm charming.
SPEAKER_01Okay, sure. So then you were um, so you were 26 at this point.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I was about 26.
SPEAKER_01Okay, and and and how how many years ago is this?
SPEAKER_04Do you want to know my age? Well, no, I'm just curious.
SPEAKER_01Because you said it was like we're doing it. It wasn't like that that long ago.
SPEAKER_04I was pretty long. I'm 38 years old, so I'm kind of old.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so this is this is 12 years ago. So that is okay, that's interesting.
SPEAKER_04I don't think that that would be something that wouldn't be how I would move now.
SPEAKER_01Well, I would hope.
SPEAKER_04But like, you know, when you're 20 years old, your your boyfriend cheated on you, he's taking your shit, you know, like you gotta you gotta retaliate somehow. And I think that was pretty harmless. This car was not harmed. There was no vehicles harmed.
SPEAKER_05Which is that's that's nice. And he started it, so I mean.
SPEAKER_02I have a question for you. Okay, like girl to girl. So I have an I had an ex, or I have an ex. And this was Mm-hmm, like two years ago. And so obviously this was my first relationship. So I wanted to know like every little thing about him. That's just how like I was or am. And so I asked him all about like his past like hookups and like everything like that. And basically like he told me he hooked up with this girl and she cheated on her boyfriend with him. Right. So then we I was at this party with my friends, and my boyfriend at the time wasn't there. And when I left, he came because at this time I like I had to be home at a certain time. So then and then he came and that girl that he that cheated on her boyfriend with him was there. And um, I didn't really know this girl, I had nothing against her really. Um like, do you count this as cheating? They he was like, I need to charge my phone. So she took she took him to a room and plugged his phone in, whatever. And something something the topic of them fucking came up, and he was like, Yeah, and I remembered it. I remember you cheated on your your man or something with me, and she was like, Yeah, and I don't regret it. And then and then I don't even I kind of forget like everything, every little thing that happened in between, but I remember I found out and I was pissed.
SPEAKER_04But did they do anything or she just said like I well basically if she's sitting there saying I didn't regret it, she's saying I would do it again.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, essentially.
SPEAKER_02Yeah but if he okay, so wait, what's the question though? Like, is that like some sort of like but then he was like he continued to like hang out, entertain. But they I I don't know if they did anything, I don't think they did, um,
Is Cheating Different For Men And Women
SPEAKER_02but I was just like really confused. So he told you that she said that, obviously. Yeah, and he was like, I thought it was her house, and I was like, it's everyone knew it was not her house. Like we everyone knew the host.
SPEAKER_04I'll say this you can't always like control what like someone else does. Like in the instance with like my ex, like I actually ended up being friends with a lot of the girls that he cheated on me with because they didn't owe me shit. He did, you know, like he was the one that was either lying to them and saying that he didn't have a girlfriend or whatever it was, like they didn't know what the situation was or even probably know me for that matter. Um, but I say that to say you can't always control like what a girl does, and the fact that he was even open enough to tell you that that happened hopefully means that nothing happened, but like you can't always control like other females, and obvious and also like women, if they see a guy with like a beautiful woman or like a girl that maybe they're envious of, it makes the man more appealing. Like a girl will go after a guy, like even if a girl's with an ugly dude and that girl is always a thing, then other girls are gonna be like, I don't care how ugly that guy is. There's something about him, either he has like big pockets or big something else, you know what I mean? So um I think that it was actually like a good thing that he was honest with you and like told you what happened.
SPEAKER_02Um and girls are shady, like men have their issues, but girls can be just I I mean, I ran the thing is I met that girl that night. I don't think I was aware that that was her, and I liked her. Like, I think like maybe I don't know, she was like tipped. I don't know. I don't think they would have like done anything. She was like so.
SPEAKER_04Did she know that that was your boyfriend?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, yeah. What did your intuition say? I if she's shady. I yeah, I mean, there was this whole thing with my ex, and this is like my ex, like I don't say like, oh, this is some guy I dated. And then it was just like that we're constantly on and off, on and off, and then like when we were off, like some things would happen, some shady things would happen.
SPEAKER_01And then um What do you mean when you were off, some shady things would happen?
SPEAKER_02Like when we weren't dating, but like still When you were dating or when you weren't? Weren't okay.
SPEAKER_01What what do you mean some shady what what are shady things?
SPEAKER_02I mean we would do things to make each other jealous, like petty things, and like you both would do to each other. Um like in the beginning, less of me, more him, but towards the end I completely fucked him over.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. Bad. You did what you did what?
SPEAKER_02I like got with someone else. Like I hooked up with someone else. Uh-huh. And it was like, it was we were constantly on and off, on and off.
SPEAKER_01And like But you were broken up at that point.
SPEAKER_02No, at this point, we were like talking again, like dating basically, and then everyone knew we we would like po it was just like this, we would like post each other, so everyone was like, okay, like they're dating. And I actually like got with some guy he knew, and oh, okay, that's the part.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. The other part.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but also how many other things did he do that made you do that? It was like, yeah, I mean what I'm saying, yeah, and I was justifying it. Nobody's nobody also do a lot of things to make you want to do that.
SPEAKER_01That's nor here nor there. I look, it if if if somebody does extremely terrible things, right, you have to have the ability and capability to do the same exact thing, right? Without it, then you just you just won't. The reality of it is if somebody just kills someone on the on the side of the road, right, you're not gonna be like, oh, I could do the same thing. You just won't.
SPEAKER_04It's either you're a killer or you're a Well, but I think in your very first relationship is like you learning, you're learning jealousy, you're learning like like distrust and like forgiveness and all of these things. And so like if you don't understand forgiveness or jealousy or all of these things, you're gonna like that's how you learn is by doing those kind of things in your first relationship. I mean, you two have both had your first relationship. How fucked up were those? They had to not be like the most functional.
SPEAKER_01No, you either have a solid value system, a moral system, or you don't. That's the bottom line. Yes, you could become better and grow. I agree with that. However, I don't think you start to like attract negative so morality from like having a terrible partner. I had I had some very toxic relationships, but the things that my exes did to me, I would never do to them.
SPEAKER_04Have you ever cheated?
SPEAKER_01No,
Can Relationships Recover After Infidelity
SPEAKER_01but that's but that has nothing to do with anything. Like the my exes were like I have this one ex who used to like scream, yell, fucking try to like fight, and like all do these stuff, hit me, like fucking do something, like you're a little bitch, like blah blah blah, like all these things. And like you would there is not a there is not an ounce of me that felt the rage to want to hit this girl. Not once. I I would look at her and I would just think to myself, like, you're just fucking crazy out of your mind. Like I, you know, and I would just like sit there and be like, Why are you so quiet? Like you make me even more crazy acting like this, and I'm like, I don't I'm not trying to you all you were raised well, you but that's precisely my point.
SPEAKER_04I would I did.
SPEAKER_01That's but the but the thing is that if if a if a person who's capable of doing this, right, if if I looked at her and I was like, you know what, you want to get hit, pa, right? That that's on me. That's not because she said hit me, that's because I was capable of doing it, and I would do it to anybody else, probably, if if I was that type of a person, and that's just the bottom line. I had this other ix, and she just she I had co-signed a car for her, okay, and this is like during the time that we were in a relationship, and and and I she wasn't, she she wasn't um really a responsible type of person, she didn't have a responsible personality, so she was um you know, forget this, forget that, or whatever. And she was very um avoidant, so she would just you know not want to deal with stuff. And so one of my rules when I co-signed the car was okay, the payments are gonna go out of my account, and you'll just like zell me or whatever, you'll just send me the money, and that was on auto auto pay. So, like every month the money would just automatically come into my account, and then my account was you know paying that payment. And when we broke up, she went along with like paying the payments for like a couple months, and then she stopped paying them, right? Obviously, I co-signed the car at this point. I have like 820 credits, so I'm not gonna fuck my own credit up, so I'm I continuously paying the payments, and I had a conversation, I kept like calling, trying to get hold of her. Hey, like, are you gonna pay? Blah blah blah. This went on for about six months until I decided to go and take the car. Yeah. But the reason why it went on for so long was because I felt bad for her, and I felt like okay, maybe she's in like a bad situation, blah, blah, blah. I'm not gonna fuck her over. I went and I had a conversation, and so the situation kind of just like got crazy when when I called her and was like, hey, I'm gonna like I'm gonna have to come get this car because like I can't, like, you're just like not paying the payments. And then at that point, she came downstairs and she's like yelling at me, saying these things, and I really like we I it's just my personality. I'm not a type of person that would fuck somebody over. I mean, I'm just not, it's just not in me. And so when I had that conversation with her, I was like, look, like I understand you're in a bad situation, I understand that you're not doing well, I understand all these things, but at least please try and like do the right thing. And I left the car there for her. And I just and I just left. Yeah. And about a week later, she called me and she was like, Hey, I'm gonna send you like half the payments that I owe you, and she just paid it. And and then she was like, I I appreciate you and like not fucking me over or whatever. But the point I'm trying to make is this that if if if somebody else already had if I had decided to take the car because of everything that she had done, is acceptable, you know, because at that point it's like hey, you've you've already done this, like you know, I have it.
SPEAKER_04Well, obviously.
SPEAKER_01But it's a little more right, but but but I think that the the your value system and who you are as a person,
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SPEAKER_01right? It really shows when shit hits the fan, and now all of a sudden you actually have to truly show up and really show who you are as a person. Because when things are good and everybody's happy, then obviously it's easy to be a good person. Because nothing nothing bad is happening. Why it's uh why would it be so difficult to be a bad to be a good person at that point?
SPEAKER_04I agree with everything you're saying, but I think when you're younger and it's your first love, it there's emotions that you've never felt before. So sometimes, like when you're younger, you don't know how to deal with those emotions, you know, you don't have to know how to deal with jealousy or like those things, and I think it's a normal thing to be triggered to be spiteful or to be vengeful and all those things. And I think with age and with experience, you learn that like that really gets you nowhere.
SPEAKER_01Look, sh sh you knew that fucking somebody that was that his friend, but also he hurt her, so she was she was wait, but did you do it?
SPEAKER_05Was it out of like I'm gonna get him back, or was it just like, oh, this is exciting, I haven't had many relationships, intentions matter. Like you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like like you said, I would never I like never even like thought of it when everything was like, you know, everything go lucky.
SPEAKER_04Well, because you're coming from like you're you he hurt you, and that's probably why you were I don't want to say inspired, that's probably not the right word, but like like tempted to like hurt him back.
SPEAKER_01You're just saying hurt people, hurt people, right? Exactly.
SPEAKER_04It is true, but also I think I'm not I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying that's how you learn.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but that but also I think being a better person, being the bigger person, right, is is is how everybody should function, regardless of what another person does to you. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02I mean, yeah, I think like when you're growing, like when what when you hit like 20, 21, if you're doing these things, if you're cheating on someone, like at your grown age, like what are you doing? Like I think it comes with like experience, and I think obviously now I would like no, like seeing the repercussions and like him coming to me, and you know, just obviously he came into my house and he was like pissed because uh the thing that happened after it basically I had a girlfriend and we were like hanging out all year, and we were I thought we were pretty close, like I would show up for her whenever she needed it, and like so basically he called her one day and was like like tell me like like tell me everything, and so she told him everything on the phone, and honestly, glad she didn't know you're a girlfriend my girlfriend, and honestly, I'm glad she did. I mean, at the end of the day, like he deserved to know because I didn't have the guts to tell him, I was so scared to tell him. I because I knew what I did was wrong, and I literally I remember I was at a party and I started sobbing because I felt so guilty, and I was like, holy shit, like I like feel horrible, I know what I did was wrong, and everyone in like my like space like knew that I did it, but everyone was just kind of waiting, like it was like a ticking time bomb, and I just like it was this like this doom, like this cloud over my shoulders. And I know like everyone's like, Okay, well, if you felt so bad, why didn't you tell him like be a better person, be the big bigger person? But oh my god, I like he was my first relationship, my first love. So like I was just like And you learn from that, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean, obviously, like So your friend told him, and then what happened?
SPEAKER_02And then he came to my house, yelled, da da da, and then it was this whole big thing, and I took like a deep breath. I was like, and he was like, you know who told me, you know who told me your best friend. Like she, I called her and she told me everything, like spared no detail. And I was like, I was like, shit, like okay, like alright. And I acted like I knew you were friends with this girl, no girl, no, no, but but the way I okay, the thing. That's definitely breaking girl code. I mean, that's yeah. Um, I like knew and he told me it was her, and so I was like, I said her name, I texted her, I was like, let's call her Taylor. I was like, Taylor, like what the fuck? And she was like, she had the nerve to pretend she didn't tell him. Like at least on it. Wait, but hold on, okay, go ahead. And he apparently when they were calling, he was like, but don't worry, I won't tell her it's you. Like, I won't tell her like it's you, like Taylor, just tell me, tell me. Like she was like, Promise you won't tell her like it was me. Like, bitch, like what? Like, just like be like, hey Mia, like I told I like I'm a good person, I'm gonna tell your boyfriend you cheat on him, right? Yeah, like but then she like was like, I didn't. Like, what are you talking about? Like, what are you talking about? What happened? And I was like, there's no way, and I that it was not even the the the shit I got from like people, like which was like a month, like people were giving me shit about it, and I kind of just like helped took it because obviously I deserve it. But that didn't hurt me the most. It was the fact that this girl who I valued so much, and I want to say my best friend, but we hung out damn near every day. Did did the guy cheat on you first? He never well okay. Well, he was not that it mattered. Not that I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04It does matter, but what I'm saying is is that like, okay, wait, did he cheat?
SPEAKER_02He didn't, I don't think he like, I don't like I don't no one ever told me like the guy did this, the guy did this, and then the girl, like, but there were like multiple instances. I would catch him doing like basically like micro cheating.
SPEAKER_04Like he would be like, you get so this is this is the reason the reason why I'm asking is because like because like you're saying, all of your friends and everybody like came down so hard on you, and I feel like when guys cheat, people are like, that's what guys do, but when girls
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SPEAKER_04cheat, it's like ah, you're the good bad person. Fucking deal, you're a cheater.
SPEAKER_01Because it's different, it is different. The reality of it is biological.
SPEAKER_03Because we have to be pushed. Biologically, we have to be forced to cheat. You have to do it.
SPEAKER_01It's like, oh, no, biologically, it takes a lot more for a woman to cheat than it is for a man to cheat. I could look at a girl and be like, hey, she's hot, have sex with her, and then be done. For a girl to cheat, you have to be like, it will make you love me more.
SPEAKER_04Is that what is that how it works?
SPEAKER_01You have to go through a whole emotional attachment and talk to this person back and forth, and then go through this whole thing in order to then be comfortable with actually cheating. Most women who end up cheating on their husband or their partner have already disconnected from the relationship while before they actually do end up cheating on them. So so there is a massive difference between the two. And the bottom line of it is that if men cheat, they don't, they're not detached from the relationship. Majority of the time, generally speaking, men could cheat and still come back to their relationship and their relationship be completely fine. And I don't know. Look, that's that that could that could be theoretically true if he was a type of person that would tell the truth. But you know, I like it might be his like kind of uh um, you know, thing that like he would cheat on you and then feel like a like a man and then just you know be in love with you for like still letting me I mean I don't know that could Honestly my friend um told her yeah, they were dating, and this was like really recent.
SPEAKER_02So like he she was like we need to go on a break, whatever, and because everything he was just really shitty at communicating, like he's a boy. And um and then she was like, We need to go to break. And he like fucks another girl the next day, shows up, and we see him, we see them, and like he has hickeys all over his neck, and like we were talking, I was like, fuck him, like that was like done, like cut him off, like you guys are done. And she and she like like what you said, like that's uh guys will do that, guys can do that and still be at like love you and at be attached to you. And that's just like 100% if a girl cheats, she's probably checked. Done. I'm honest, I was really, I was like mentally, emotionally detached because we were just arguing all the time, arguing all the time, because mind you, he was older than me, he was gone to college. I was still like in high school, so we were constantly arguing, and like it got to a point where like really weird things were happening. I went, I visited him in college for this like um big festival event that was going on, and um he was living in the apartment complex with his friends, and obviously there were girls living there his age, and all the girls were pretty, pretty sweet, and then there was like one girl. Oh, and I looked through his phone, he was sleeping too. Um and then I mean, okay, yeah, not even keep their eyes open.
SPEAKER_05Like face edies easier, you just like holding them.
SPEAKER_02My name is password. Oh, yeah. I was like, or that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then um Snapchat. And so, like, obviously, I was going through that, and this one girl he was living with, she was just the weirdest bitch. Like, I I was saying hi to everyone, and he was like, say hi to my my girlfriend, and she was like, No. That's when you know, and I was like, That's when you're gonna be able to do it. I look through the like, oh my god, I look through the videos that they have saved in their chats, and he he there's a video of him, and he's like, It's I just got home from the bar and I'm about. to take a shower, come come over because I'm drunk as fuck right now, or like I'm fated as fuck right now. And then the like the next snap is like a photo of of his bed and like he has like a like a dog, his dog on a pillow and she like drew like a hard it was a weirdest fucking thing.
SPEAKER_04And he was like he was trying to explain it to me and he was making a whole treasure map for you.
SPEAKER_02I was like yeah I was like okay like explain everything and he was like yeah I went I went to take a shower when she came in so we missed each other. Like does that make sense to you? Like does that make sense to you? No.
SPEAKER_01No so uh yeah I mean what but what what why was he trying to lie at that point?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I think at the end of the day like we just want like we just wanted to stay with each other. I mean that's the reason why I didn't tell him and that's the reason he kept making up bullshit and and I still stayed and I wanted to believe it.
SPEAKER_04Even even if I hated his guts to the point where I would do that to him and continue to lie and not tell him it was just just constantly it was just a cycle and it's constant going back and forth and like I guess that was the mm but what like can a relationship truly recover after infidelity do you think I mean I think it's possible I think that it has to be like a mutual like you both have to want to fix the relationship you both have to like forgive which is like one of the hardest things to do. When I broke up with my ex for seven years like we didn't talk for seven years after that and during the pandemic I went home and he saw that I was home and he was like hey can you meet up for lunch or whatever we ended up meeting up and he apologized like I finally got the apology that I thought that I never was gonna get and it was actually like a very healing moment. We are friends now but it took a seven year break blood after you stole his car after I stole his car I think he knew like I'm have you been in any other relationships ever since uh I've been in one other relationship um and how long was that uh it was like about a year and you've been single for the past 11 years yeah god majority of that time I've been single you know like is there any relationships are amazing I think that they can be very like beneficial with the right person but when you're with the wrong person like it can suck the life out of you and I personally feel like I've accomplished more being single because I didn't have someone else to worry about or you know take me out of my focus.
SPEAKER_01Do you have any desire to be in any relationships in the future?
SPEAKER_04Um I mean yes I do want that but I'm also like in a place right now where I'm like so like
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SPEAKER_04content um and I don't have anyone like to tend to I can like do my own thing and I think that's very like freeing and refreshing and like my mind is like clear and free and I don't have to like worry about somebody cheating or doing this or doing that. I do want to be in a relationship I do want to have kids I do believe in marriage but I also am like one of those people that's like if I don't get those things then I'm like okay with that. I think that you know what's meant for me will happen be there for me always. And right now I'm like in a place where I'm like putting all my focus into my business because that's something that's going to like give back and that's not gonna like one day decide like okay never mind I don't want this anymore bye do you prefer a monogamous relationship or open relationship hmm I mean I think it's uh I would I would like a monogamous relationship I think we're all like trained to want that. Brainwash you mean um but yes um but I also like feel like there is um how do I say this like you should let people be who they are always like even if they're doing something you don't want them to do let them do it because then you see like what they would rather be doing or what they want to be doing. Trying to like control people I think is like the easiest way to like screw up any situation because you have to let people be who they are. So if a guy you started dating said hey I want to be in an open relationship is that something you would accept or would you say no I want monogamy um I think it like I honestly don't really know at this point in my life because I'm not saying that I would that I would be open to it but I would appreciate the honesty at least like giving me the option to make the decision instead of like pretending that you're gonna try to be the person that I want you to be and then like three years down the line you're gonna be like oh by the way I actually really would prefer to be in an open relationship because I think that's what men do a lot is they like form into this like person that they think that you want them to be and then they're that until they get you and then they get you and they're like oh never mind this is who I really am yes but also like there is some level of like okay when you first meet somebody you're putting in more effort to like wine and dine them more and then at some point it's like okay like can we just chill and like watch Netflix yeah sometimes absolutely but I think like yeah it's not like you meet the first person like it like you don't go on a date and then the first thing you say to them is oh hey by the way when my ex and I broke up I stole his car like no you know you just don't you know and that's just the reality of this like nobody nobody meets an like any single person that is in a situation where they just met someone right they're always putting up a front showing their best self.
SPEAKER_01Yeah at least for the first year I don't feel like you really even put on makeup you you know fix your hair you do your nails and then once you become comfortable with them then you know your nails are broken for a week you're you know no makeup when you wake up like all these things and it's just I I think that's just how it is. Once you become more comfortable then you're more yourself. So I think it would be unrealistic to expect people to um you know just just like say the most sort of outrageous or controversial or the the things that they think that other people might not agree with right off the bat because then you know the other person would look at you and be like damn like you're right you know like my wife right now I could say the craziest shit and she'll look at me be like I still love you you know versus like if in the beginning I said those things she'll probably be like I don't know about this guy about you.
SPEAKER_04I feel like I come into relationships way more authentic now than I did in my 20s. I think in my 20s I put on this like huge front and I like always wanted to be like perfect and like always like you said have my hair done and my makeup and like all of these things. But I I like to now I kind of like to lead with my insecurities and like lead with those things so it's not like you're not shocked you know like I have extreme ADD like sometimes like I'm like extremely clean and sometimes like you know I need to put my clothes hang my clothes up and they're laying on my bed you know so like I go through phases.
SPEAKER_01I think there's a difference between being fake you know and filtering yourself. I think those are two complete different things like somebody who just like shows up and just says or lies and like makes up shit about who they are you know is a completely different scenario than somebody who just isn't gonna say the things that might throw somebody else off or like you know turn them away. So okay so no open relationships for you for you I'm assuming is also the same. Yeah you also would want monogamy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah I feel like that's just I feel like when you're in an open relationship there's just this emotional detachment that okay I bel I do believe that having sex with someone like is intimate it's supposed to be intimate and like I do not believe that
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SPEAKER_02if you're if we're in a relationship like I will be okay with like knowing you're doing that with other people.
SPEAKER_04I don't know I think it's a mindset it's just a preference of what you like and it's totally fine like well it's also like there's I believe there's a transfer of energy that happens and it's also like if you're out here with like all these other people and they have dark energy and then you're coming back to me like you're bringing that energy to me too so that is something why is their energy dark I'm just saying if like scenario like if you are power potentially yeah I'm not saying everyone has dark energy but like you also like don't know what like people have dealt with their traumas and like all those things and I do feel like energy is transferred for sure.
SPEAKER_02Interesting okay so in in your situation you said that you think sex is intimate right does that mean that you just don't have one night stands yeah I don't you don't no so only relationships yeah and how long do you wait until you actually have sex with a guy I mean I only have two like two bodies so I'm like I don't like really know and how old are you again? I'm 18. Oh okay got it got it got it and like I'm like like college is like kind of not even a culture shock like I knew what I was getting into but I mean I don't know I'm just telling my girlfriends like stay safe like you never know but I like I had this thing where like I'm gonna be in a relationship if we're gonna have sex and I obviously it was that one it was that other guy that like obviously we weren't in a relationship with but I've I've known that guy for a minute like almost like two years. Yeah so um yeah definitely no one night stands I think that you know energy is transferred and I think it should be intimate and like yeah I think you're digging yourself a deeper deeper hole the more you just kind of like throw yourself share yourself out there because you never know what other people are going through what like burdens they carry.
SPEAKER_01Right right um okay so are you also wanting to get married and have kids and all that stuff is that yeah what the goal is or is it yeah like not really like I don't know she's 18 I just like girl live don't rush I'm not a thing on my mind right now like I mean you don't have to rush but I do think that if if you desire something okay there's this thing that happens with women especially in 2025 and so on where I think a lot of women who want to be successful in their careers tend to focus focus their energy and their mindset on on that right um I'm gonna study I'm gonna go to school I'm gonna do this I'm gonna become successful all that stuff and I think throughout that process there is there there is this this shift that happens with their mindset where they naturally become more masculine and lose their femininity and and I think a part of what is always missed often is that just like going to the gym you have to exercise your body in order to become more healthy and in shape and all those things. You also have to exercise your mind and so once a woman exercises their mind to become more masculine little by little you lose that side of you that is more feminine and then once you do end up being in a relationship with a guy who is also masculine it's either you're clashing or it's very hard for you to go back and adapt femininity.
SPEAKER_04But it's also because like you've spent all this time not having to rely on a man for those things. So like you automatically adapt as humans do to those circumstances so you know like I don't have someone to air up my tires I gotta do that. Like I don't have someone to put water in my radiator if my car is overheating like I've had to learn those things myself because I didn't have a man. Not because I didn't want a man but because like I wasn't gonna settle for a man that couldn't at least do that for me. If I can do that for myself then I have to find a man that can at least do that and like a little bit more. You see what I'm saying? So it does like you're right in everything that you're saying but it also like you adapt to those circumstances and like you do build that because it's like you don't have a man to rely on for those things so you have to learn how to do them yourself.
SPEAKER_01Yeah but the problem so that means that the standard does go higher
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SPEAKER_01because like if I can do all these things for myself what are you doing for me or sure you but but see what you just did you just called it your standard going higher right whereas a man who you would meet at that point the would look at you and would find you too masculine. And I and so it becomes much more difficult for a man to to accept a woman who is way too masculine for them and it just it takes away choices.
SPEAKER_04But also I think the right man will put you in your feminine energy and take those responsibilities off of your shoulders and it'll be like an organic situation. So like if you are intimidated by the fact that I can do all of these things for myself and then you're not the man for me. And then also like the right man will find a way to put me in my feminine energy so that like I don't have to worry about those things. Oh babe your tires low let me go do that for you. You know what I mean? And those things make you softer they make you be like oh like I have someone that I can rely on that can make me put me in that energy. But if like if you're coming into a situation and being intimidated because like I have a backbone and I have my shit together and I maybe don't need you for certain things um you can look at that as being overly masculine or you can look at that as like admiration I admire you for that like I don't have to do these things but let me find a way to put you in your feminine energy like let me run you a bath with Epsom salt and light some candles for you. Like those like little things that you can do for an overly masculine woman will put her in her feminine energy and the right man will know how to do that.
SPEAKER_01I I hear this a lot from a lot of women who are in their masculine majority of the time who say the same exact thing which is like oh like the right person will put you in your feminine the problem is that a masculine man who tends to be at a higher level you know because the one that you're saying oh I have standards right those high standards a man that would meet those standards also has a lot of choices. Absolutely and and a man like that isn't gonna want to waste time trying to force a person or even push them into their feminine because as soon as they meet that person they want to feel like that this person is already in their feminine and I think that's where the the the challenge becomes because the more you go into your masculine energy the less you're capable of giving the vibe of that the that you are capable of being your feminine energy once you meet somebody who is capable of taking that on to begin with. So what I suggest and what I sort of advise from time to time is that it is it is ideal to try to just like exercise in your body to exercise your mind while being in your masculine energy to to force yourself to be in your feminine energy as much as possible even if you don't have a man to take care of you because it only helps you find the right person who then when you meet you they will say okay this is the person that I could see myself with because they have these feminine traits that I would want in a relationship.
SPEAKER_02So good luck with that you know not being sure if you want to be married or not which I understand but just if you're 18 it's like I know I wouldn't be like there's so much to experience like I think at 18 if you would have asked me that question I would have been like yeah I want to be married and like have kids and all of that but I would have been like but I have so much life ahead of me to experience before I know what I want I mean I know I want to get married and you know have kids with the life travel whatever I think I'm just in a like a place right now where like with this masculine and like feminine energy obviously I I got my niche my whole niche is going to the gym like my my audience are mainly women and obviously I push out like be strong like mentally like have discipline like advocate for yourself like put yourself on like on a pedestal like you are the prize I think that honestly what I've seen in this like you know younger generation whatever is that when women are tapped into their masculine energy honestly we just get there's just a lot more respect.
SPEAKER_04I don't like well here's the thing too is that like okay let's like if you really want to talk about like back in the day women couldn't even move without a man you couldn't have a bank account you couldn't do any of these things so you had to be married to even be able to be financially stable or do anything so I think we're in a phase now where I'm not to say we we don't need men we need men we need more masculine men you know what I mean but women are able to do more now than they were before like you had to have a man to do anything. So now we don't need that and we're establishing like ourselves without a man and then we're like okay we're establishing ourselves and if you fit into my bubble then great but also like if you don't then I can still provide for myself like that used to not be a thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah when I just see I like a lot of these like really they're really tapped into their feminine energy and like that's What they love, that's what they do. They tend to get like bitched, like just so like through the mud. The guy is just no. So and but like when I'm with like a lot of my girlfriends, like they know their worth. Like, I don't even say like maybe masculine energy, but just like I'm that we're constantly like, we are the prize, like they're not gonna settle. Yeah, I mean, like, we just tend to there's just a lot more we just get tend like tend to get treated better.
SPEAKER_05The the hard part is okay, so like I was
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SPEAKER_05raised very old school, right? My dad is like, you're paying for dinner, you're cold holding the door open, you're doing all this shit, right? And I'm like dad, I'm like, cool. I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm down for that. But then what makes it tough is like like okay, here's an example. One girl I dated, most irresponsible person I ever met. I mean, she had like parking tickets from like three years ago. She's still unlike paid. So I'm like, okay, let me take care of these for you. I'm like doing all these things for her. She like got in this. Actually, it was funny. She got in a car accident one time, and she calls me, like, freaking out. She's like FaceTiming me. And I'm like, Are you hurt? Like, are you okay? She's like, I'm fine. I'm just like stressed, I don't know what to do. I'm like, okay, it's gonna be okay. Just get out of the car, take a video, let me see the video, I'll see what the damages are like. So she gets out, she takes the video, and out of the other car, this other girl gets out, and she's like freaking out, and she's on speakerphone with her dad. So they end up just like putting the phones together, and then like me and the dad like figure out the situation like through the phones. I'm like, yeah, let's not go into insurance, like the damages aren't that bad, whatever, right? And so, like, for this girl, I was doing all these things, helping the parking tickets, doing this for her, doing this for her. And I'm like, I'm not even expecting you to like clean the house, whatever. We haven't made. I'm not you don't even have to cook, like, we can hop in the BMW, go to catch, get a fucking steak, but like, do something, you know what I mean? Like, draw me a picture or like something something to like show that like you're also putting effort in. And so a lot of times I feel like, okay, I'm taking the masculine role, cool. But then if the girl's also like, yeah, I'm a boss bitch, I'm the prize, I'm like, yo, do something. Like, you can't just like be it can't be like a one-sided thing, you know.
SPEAKER_04I agree. Because there are like a lot of women's women that are like that, that are like just takers. Like, they think like, oh my god, you have to like do everything for me. Like, if somebody's doing something for me, like immediately I'm like, what can I do for that back for that person? Like, or how can I like, even if it's like somebody that I feel like I can't buy them like the best gift or whatever, like what's something that like would be a nice gesture for them? Like, would they get a massage? Do they want to, you know what? Like, that's just initially my response. And I feel like there's a lot of people out here that are not like that, that just like I don't know if they're like spoiled or if they have like reverse daddy.
SPEAKER_02I think right now, oh my gosh, what I've been seeing everywhere is just like I hate men. I hate all men. Like, we just take and like fuck them. Like Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01What do you what do you guys talk about in your we are the prize club?
SPEAKER_02Well, that's like okay, no, no, no. We we We are the prize. It's like what we're not we're not the type of girls that are like, okay, like fuck them over, like whatever. Like, no, at the end of the day, when we're talking to someone, when we're talking to a guy, we're looking for a sustainable relationship, it's a give and take, 50-50, whatever. My girlfriends and I feel like we have a good balance of like, you know, you know, a give and take, a give and take, like a love, we actually like waiting to find love, but I don't think we're in this whole mindset of like we hate men, or like so, like if you had a brother, yeah, yeah, and your brother's like this like great guy, just fantastic, right?
SPEAKER_01And you wanna you wanna find a wife for him, would you tell him to marry all your girlfriends?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they're good people, yeah, okay. Yeah, they're good people, and like we're not like they are not the kind of people to want to fuck a guy over.
SPEAKER_01If something's going wrong, they're gonna be like, hey, like, yeah, but fucking fucking a person over is just such an extreme extent of like the just like like going to like I I don't like that's not that we don't have to go that far. It's just like being a decent person, yeah, right, and being treating your partner well, right? Treating the person that you love well where they don't feel that um you're that that that they're in a one-sided relationship, just like how Zach was saying, yeah, right. And I think when when like I don't it's interesting because I think I think men who are masculine and men who are giving, like I haven't heard a single man who I respect who I think is a good person say I'm the prize. Like not once I've ever heard these days. Like I don't know. Like it's just but but I hear a lot of women say that they're the prize.
SPEAKER_04I think I I have been in relationships where men have been like a life sucker, like suck the life out of me, but I've also been in relationships where like they elevate me, where like that's what I'm looking for more now is like, can you teach me something? Can you like like not make my life better like like money-wise, but like
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SPEAKER_04my quality of life? Like, do you know how to calm me down when I'm like upset or like these certain things? Like the things that I looked for in my 20s are like so different than the things that I look for now, and like I really just want somebody that's like a better person than me, really.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and that's and that's obviously like that that's great, but I but what I'm trying to say is that I've noticed that the group of people, whether it's a man or a woman, it doesn't really matter, those who tend to proclaim that they're the prize tend to often be those who never get picked.
SPEAKER_04The worst thing that ever happened to you.
SPEAKER_01No, not the worst thing that ever happened to you, but but it's just like I I've I've I've noticed this a lot where it's like I I I see people who are very giving, who are very respectful, who are very respected, that they never say that they're the prize. But the ones who constantly proclaim that they're the prize just never get picked. Right. And somehow I think to myself, huh, if a if if if a bunch of people were passing by a diamond that was on the floor.
SPEAKER_04What are you basing the prize on?
SPEAKER_01Like what is but but precisely, if a bunch of people were passing by a diamond that was on the floor, they would pick it up. Everybody would want to pick it up, right? And that would be the prize. But if nobody's picking you up, then is that because you're the prize and nobody wants to pick you up? Or maybe you're not the prize and you're just delusional about it.
SPEAKER_04I think there's you know what? I feel like it's actually a lot more delusional women out there than men, because you watch all of these like TikTok videos where they're asking like girls questions, and I literally cringe at those sometimes because I'm just like, oh my god, like you're giving us all a bad rep. You know, like what was that guy? Who was the guy that died that used to like call girls out?
SPEAKER_01Oh, the black guy. Um, yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04What's his name?
SPEAKER_05Oh, Kevin Sam Sam's death, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Like, I actually low-key fucked with that guy, even though it was like some of his things, I was like, oh my god, I can't believe he's like that's so mean. But he was being honest, you know? Like, I think there's a lot of girls out there that are like very, very delusional in like what their dating pool actually is or should be. Like, there's girls out there that are like a hot three with a filter, and they're like, I deserve, I deserve a billionaire that's like chiseled jawline and six foot five, and all this, and it's like, honey, have you ever do you know what a treadmill is?
SPEAKER_03What the fuck?
SPEAKER_04You are kidding me. You want a six-pack and you've got three rolls. What are we talking about?
SPEAKER_01That is funny. Yeah, there's a there's a lack of humbleness.
SPEAKER_04Delusion, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01That I think is taking over the society, which is unfortunate. But I think at a certain point, people will come to understand that they are being delusional because because life will hit you back, and that's just that's just the reality of it. It will, whether you like it or not. Um Have you have you ever experienced have you ever experienced a different type of men? Have you traveled? Yeah, yeah. Have you ever experienced a different type of men in different parts of like you know, Texas versus or like how where have you traveled?
SPEAKER_04Um I've been a few places. I've been to Lebanon, I've been to Turkey, Thailand, um Mexico, um, I've been to a lot of places.
SPEAKER_01Have you have you met different types of men in different parts parts of the world?
SPEAKER_04To be honest,
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SPEAKER_04not really, like, um, not men that like I would date. And you know, it was all like vacation situations, so not really like haven't really met men from like different cultures, really, but um I was filming a reality show in Thailand. Right. I was in Thailand. Um, it was like me and a group of girls, and they were filming a show about these like professional skaters, um, and they were going all over the country and like skating in different places, and they wanted to do a spinoff of some girls that were like basically like were jumping off cliffs and ziplining and like doing all these crazy things in different countries. Never happened because there ended up being a lot of arguing with the girls, and I was like, I don't even want to be a part of a show where I'm arguing with all my friends, but anyways, one night we are out in I think it was Pataya, Thailand, and they have this place called Walking Street, and it's like kind of like a bourbon street or like a 6th street in Austin, like a bunch of bars, and like there's different like sex shows that you can go in and like watch, like where girls are doing like crazy things, like shooting darts at balloons out of their hoo-ha, and like just crazy, crazy things. Um, like there was this one place where you could just like get in the boxing ring, and dudes were just like drunk boxing each other. It was crazy. And then um towards the end of the night, we found a McDonald's, and we were all like scared to eat the street food, so we were like, Oh, okay, McDonald's, like this is safe, you know. So we go to the McDonald's, we get food, we're walking out of the McDonald's, and I was like walking next to one of like the skater guys, he's walking next to me, and this lady boy comes up next to him and like is trying to talk to him or whatever, and he's like kind of like get off me, you know, whatever. And we like keep walking, and I guess that little nudge, all of a sudden, one of them like pulls me by the back of the head, and I end up getting like jumped by lady boys in Thailand. So all of a sudden, like production is like scattered, there's like camera crew over here, and like the guys that we were with ended up creating, like, you know, like in football, how they make like the pocket, right? So, like I'm like getting up from getting beat up, and the guys are kind of weird about hitting the girls because they're like, Are these men or these girls? You know, like some of them are like throwing punches and then like other uh like kind of trying to like push them because they're like uneasy to hitting them, and so me and my girlfriend were running because like you know, the guys kind of like got it under control and they're like run. So me and my girlfriend are running, and my girlfriend loses her shoe, and I keep running, I look back, I'm like, no, like leave your shoe, and then I see the lady boys coming for her, and I like by the way, I used to teach kickboxing, so I see the lady boy going for my friend, and I do a running jump kick into the guy's chest, and he like falls back his her, his whatever wig falls off anyway. So my friend gets her shoe, we keep running, and then all of a sudden we get tackled by Thailand cops. They like tackle us and put, I think there was maybe like 12 of us, like um Americans, and like five of us, they got into a back of a truck, and then in the other truck, they had like five or six of the lady boys. Um, they take us to the embassy or to the jail, and then they had to like call the American embassy and like figure out who we were, and like ended up releasing us, and they thought that we were famous, so they were like making us all like take pictures with them and stuff. It was like the craziest experience. So uh when it comes to being men in another country, uh, I think the closest thing I've gotten to that is Lady Boys, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_01Beating being beat up by Lady Boys, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Man, I had like they had heels too, they were like stomping my back. I had like bruises in my back. It was intense.
SPEAKER_01Wait, what what um started the fight to begin with?
SPEAKER_04Well, okay, so after we got home that night, I started like googling stuff because I was like, is anyways, started Googling. There's like lady boy gangs in Thailand, and they like go after American people or tourists and try to like steal their stuff. Like, even when I was down on the ground, I had like a bag that was like a cross bag or whatever, and they were trying to like pull it off of me. So they were clearly trying to like rob us, and they saw the cameras. I'm sure they probably were like, Oh, like who are these people?
SPEAKER_01Nobody crazy, crazy stuff.
SPEAKER_04Um, yeah, so unfortunately, no straight men in other countries.
SPEAKER_01That is funny. Would you marry a man who is incredibly rich and buys you everything? Just kidding, and buys you everything, but cheats on you, or a man who's broke as hell, you have to take care of him, but he's great in bed and will be always faithful.
SPEAKER_04I've had both, and that's why I'm single.
SPEAKER_01So neither.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, it's gotta be like a but if you had to pick one, which one would you pick? Rich. I'd rather I'd rather cry in a G-Wagon than a fucking Geo Metro.
SPEAKER_05Like I'm not crying in the Honda Corolla. Yeah, fuck that. Mia, what would you pick? Which one would you pick?
SPEAKER_04Um girl, you better say rich. Learn from me.
SPEAKER_01I mean, yeah, I think Yeah, but I mean a boss, boss ass bitch, you know, might as well be working hard and providing for the for the family, you know?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But you could still be with a rich guy and be a boss, but you just being cheated on.
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SPEAKER_02Yeah. I don't know. I honestly don't know.
SPEAKER_01What would you say uh your uh um circle of uh were the prize uh friends would say?
SPEAKER_02Honestly, where are you? Probably the rich guy, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The irony.
SPEAKER_04I when I was with the guy who I moved here for, like, I was kind of the breadwinner. I, you know, provided mostly. Like he wasn't like a total deadbeat. It was just I made a little bit more money than him at the time. Um and he cheated. The rich guy didn't cheat.
SPEAKER_01Interesting. Interesting. Does height matter?
SPEAKER_04How short are we talking about?
SPEAKER_01I mean, it it's either shorter than me? Yes, yes, yes. Either it matters or it doesn't, right? So if if it does, is there a line? And if it doesn't, then obviously it could be like four feet tall.
SPEAKER_04I've I've dated somebody who was about my height. I was taller than him in heels. That didn't bother me. Um I'm gonna say no. I mean, obviously, like it's how tall are you? Five's seven.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so like five three. Okay, yeah, you can't do it. Okay, got it.
SPEAKER_04I don't know what about no, I don't want to say no.
SPEAKER_01What about rich on five?
SPEAKER_04That's like technically little person status. No, it's under five foot. Yeah, it's under five foot.
SPEAKER_05Okay. I mean, I would consider little person status personally.
SPEAKER_01Okay, first of all, that's not from the scientific term, yeah. It's not under five foot. It's like you gotta be like under four foot.
SPEAKER_04It's four eleven, I think.
SPEAKER_01I think it's four eleven, yeah, she's right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I think it's four eleven.
SPEAKER_05I guess four eleven.
SPEAKER_04So wait, what about you? I kind of want to know, do you like would you guys be with a little person?
SPEAKER_05A woman? Like 4'11? No, but I would maybe 4'11. 4'11's kind of I just 4'?
SPEAKER_01I mean, my grandma's 4'11. You know, she's uh, and you know, that's not too short. I mean, it is short, but like we're not talking about your grandma.
SPEAKER_04We're talking about I'm just saying, like, I know somebody who's 411.
SPEAKER_01Um, I mean, I wouldn't be with my grandma, but I uh certainly would consider being with somebody that short.
SPEAKER_05I would 4'11 if it was like four foot. I don't know. That might be a little weird. Yeah. I don't know if I can marry somebody that's 4'11. That's gonna fuck my bloodline up, you know.
SPEAKER_01Well, nowadays, I actually met somebody uh recently who is a um dish baby. And so she was made in a dish. No way. Wait, what? And so crazy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and so does that even mean, pause.
SPEAKER_01What so they got the sperm and the eggs, they mixed them up, and then but they actually adjusted the the hair color, the eye color, wait, I thought that wasn't legal. I thought that was not legal, but that was a while ago.
SPEAKER_04But I thought I thought that wasn't legal. This wasn't in America, so they like are I maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that was like you're not you can't do that.
SPEAKER_01I don't I don't know what the laws are in America, but it didn't doesn't matter because it didn't happen in America, but you know. Okay, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_04You can do that in other countries.
SPEAKER_01But the point I'm trying to make is you could technically be with a you know four foot tall, four eleven, whatever, and then have the baby that way, which I probably but do you want like a a science baby?
SPEAKER_05Do you want like a hundred percent?
SPEAKER_01I asked her actually, I said, I said, Do you feel weird like being made in a in a lab? And she said, at first.
SPEAKER_04Wait, the actual baby.
SPEAKER_01I talked to the girl who was born this way.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01And she said, and I said, and I said, um, do you feel weird about it? She said, in the beginning I did when I was growing up, but then I realized that like if if it meant that I don't have any of the diseases or any of the issues or any of the sort of uh negative traits of like my parents.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and I look like a supermodel.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_05And I have perfect fucking genetics, and like I'm super hot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she was like, I never have teeth problems, I have perfect teeth, I have never gotten sick, like you know, all these things. And I was like, that's just crazy.
SPEAKER_05Wait, so was she like super attractive? Was she because everything's perfect? Like, was her like fucking symmetry, eyes, hair, everything just like I mean, she was attractive, you know.
SPEAKER_01I don't think they went that far to like because I cause this technology is not as advanced as a big thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think it's just like you can change eye color, you can change height, you can change like they don't have any like disease, like yeah, you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So it's not like you could like make them perfect, like people like, okay, let me get Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. I think in a few years you probably could, but right in uh right now, still, because this is I mean, her technology was obviously older because she's like I don't know.
SPEAKER_04The part that I can understand is the like you know, having a healthy immunity and not having diseases and all of that. Like, as far as like the appearance of the baby personally, I'd be like, I kind of want that to be left for the gods.
SPEAKER_05You know, like if you have an ugly baby. Well, then it is whatever.
SPEAKER_04I bet you she's gonna be rich. She ain't gonna be worried about boys.
SPEAKER_05Well, don't feed that thing after midnight just in case.
SPEAKER_01Uh, that is funny. Um, height does matter for you. Um, technically speaking, if you guys are the prize, then it shouldn't be.
SPEAKER_03Why do you keep bringing this up?
SPEAKER_01I'm so triggered by the process comment. Yeah, I just wrote you, Moe. I I love it like whenever this conversation comes up, I just I it really makes me want to get into the psyche of the person who thinks this. You know? And and like the you know, what triggers the person to believe this about themselves? And I do think that um, and I think and that's the thing is like if if a per if I say that I'm the prize, right, then it shouldn't matter. I I think that it comes with a certain like self-belief of like you're great. And that self-confidence then should sort of uh translate to not caring about how other people look like, not caring about you know what height the man is, how rich he is, because then you're just bringing everything to the table. Because that's what being a prize is. If I'm the prize, then I bring everything to the table, therefore it doesn't matter what the other person brings. Or at least it should be that way anyway.
SPEAKER_04I mean, like I think that the right way to look at it is like if you're a prize, you try to find another prize, and then you can prize together. Yeah, and then it we're all gifts.
SPEAKER_02I think it's all about like how you view yourself, and obviously, if my girlfriend is like I'm a prize on this and that, and if she's not the prize, and she's not, I'm gonna be like, hey girl, yourself, girls. Honestly, all my friends are like no, they're like seriously, they're they're pretty girls and they're they're driven. I mean, like we gone to UCLA for a reason, like we worked our ass off, like there are they are really well-rounded girls, like women. So yeah, if if one girl was like yapping and she was like, I'm the prize, I'm this and that, and she's not, I'd be like, okay, like mm, like mmm.
SPEAKER_01So does hype matter for you and all your friends?
SPEAKER_02Um like no, like we're not gonna be like So five foot, okay. Five foot, like I mean So it does matter, it's just there's a line. There's just a line.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well how far down is it? Um how below the ground are we talking?
SPEAKER_02Like a guy could like I I'm never one to be like, oh, he has a tower over me, or I'm five four. So like a guy could be my height, and I have talked to a guy like probably my but he was so like he was handsome and he was sweet, and he was just I don't know, it never really registered like oh you're my height until someone else brought it up and I was like okay, but I continued to talk to him because I don't know, I liked him, but I don't know. I just never I never have been like a one that he has to be six, six three, six two.
SPEAKER_01Got it, got it. Okay, so not not not too unreasonable. You're just like, hey, like be like decent, you know, my size is fine, whatever. Yeah, it works out. Okay, cool. Um does does it matter, does the guy's body count matter? He's left with a thousand women.
SPEAKER_02Like yeah.
SPEAKER_01That matters, okay. What about a hundred?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that that's a lot. Fifty. That's also a lot.
SPEAKER_00Twenty.
SPEAKER_02I think I think I think if I I know, I know.
SPEAKER_04But like I think a thousand is like you may have some issues you need to deal with.
SPEAKER_01Like what? What is that? Like let's do the math real quick, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You may have like some insecurities. Wait, hold on. Like you may have some trauma or something.
SPEAKER_01Or some SDDs. Okay, let's let's just do the math. This is very simple stuff. Um the man that you're gonna be with, yes, uh, I'm assuming you would want somebody older. Yeah? So let's say for the sake of this conversation, something reasonable would be Don't talk about how small my options are because I know. No, no, no, no. I'm not talking about no no we're not talking about that. We're talking about body count. So let's say for the sake of this conversation, we'd be like 45, right? That's like a reasonable age of a guy that you would potentially be with. Yeah. Okay. Or maybe 40 years old, 45, whatever. Um a man who is 45 years old, 40 years old, you would only hope that he's experienced. Yes? Because you would want somebody who's who's good in bed, because otherwise it would be like you don't want to teach the guy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Especially at 45, that's what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. So, you know, if you slept with somebody who's 45 years old and he was terrible in bed, you're gonna be pretty fucking disappointed. Yeah. What would be an acceptable number of a man who slept with someone in a given week, for example?
SPEAKER_04I'm not sure that I would want to know.
SPEAKER_01Like, I mean But we're talking about two different things because you said thousand is you've got an issue and you've got a problem.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, like, I don't think that I I don't think I would w I would want to really know. I don't think that would be a question that I would like ask.
SPEAKER_01I think Is it okay for a guy to slip with to sleep with one woman per week? That's just four woman a month. Is that okay?
SPEAKER_04And he's single?
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course. I mean And for the sake of this conversation, this this man starts having sex when having sex when he's 20 years old, right?
SPEAKER_04So by that- And are you 45 and you're doing that, or like that's just like you've done that?
SPEAKER_01I mean, even if he is 40, he's 44 and he's doing it. Is it a problem if he's sleeping with one woman per week?
SPEAKER_04Well, I yeah, because like I feel like at a certain point, like you're trying to fill a void or something. Like, like you're not building a relationship, you're not looking for a relationship, that's why you keep like fucking new people.
SPEAKER_01Let's say the man works very hard and is committed to his job and has been working for for a very long time. I mean, then has three different companies and very successful or a billionaire, and unfortunately, can't maintain a relationship because relationships take work and take time, and he just doesn't have that.
SPEAKER_04Then then, you know, if if that's what I'm looking for and I want to have like a one-night stand, then that's great for that.
SPEAKER_01No, he just earned 45 and sold his company for five billion dollars, and now he's looking to settle down. However, he's been sleeping with one woman per week since he's been 20 years old.
SPEAKER_04And we're not doing that anymore? That was in the past?
SPEAKER_01Well, he's like I said, he's settling down now. So he just met you and he just said that I've slept with over a thousand people.
SPEAKER_04I'll say this like I wouldn't want someone judging me on my past because like I'm not saying like I was like a terrible person in my past, but I've probably done some questionable things that I don't want to admit or like talk about, and I wouldn't want someone judging me on that, you know, and I think that people are like always evolving and that are able to change. So if I feel like I have a very like good like sense of like I can like feel if a person is like good or not. Like I can tell if you have like a motive, I can tell if you like are like a dark soul, I can tell if you have issues, like I think that I'm old enough to be able to kind of like feel that vibe out. So like if we were if I was dating this guy that's 45 and you used to be a hoe, but you're trying to not be a hoe anymore.
SPEAKER_01Does that make him a hoe? Kind of sleeping with one woman. Yeah, because like you're not you're you're you're just like doing the act, and like that's fine, like if that's like who you are, but I just think What is the difference between sleeping with one person a thousand times versus sleeping with thousand people one time?
SPEAKER_04Um, there's a lot of differences. Well, I'm asking what the difference is. Well, because with that one person that you're sleeping with a thousand times, there's a connection. Probably that's why you're continuing to sleep with that person. And whether you're together or not, there is some kind of connection there. Um, whether it's like physical, spiritual, we're just have this agreement, this is just fun, whatever, there's some kind of something more than physical if you're gonna keep going back to that situation. But if you're just like one and one and one and but you're you're just like giving yourself away to people, and like what are you even getting back out of that? Like, you're getting off, and that's it.
SPEAKER_01Like well, I mean, sex is supposed to be a uh an urge that is biological, so it's not particularly I mean what you're getting back from it.
SPEAKER_04It's I mean it's healthy to have sex, so I I would yeah, but wouldn't you say there's a difference in just fucking someone and having a one-night stand and having an actual ongoing relationship with someone where there's like a bond there? Like there's there's two different I've had sex in my life with different people, okay? I've had sex with people that I was very much in love with, and I've had sex in situations where it was not that, and they feel completely different when you have sex with somebody that you love or somebody that there's like a real connection with, it's like you go to like another world when you're just fucking, it's like, oh my god, and then the next day there's the shame, and there's the you know, whatever that goes along with it. So yeah, there is like a difference in one person versus a thousand people because you're also like giving your energy away to these people, but those are all personal experiences though.
SPEAKER_01You feeling shame after a one night stand might not apply to another 10 women, but might apply to another hundred women. So it's just it's it's more so how the person perceives their experience. You could sleep, have you ever seen the um I don't know what her what her name is? She she just recently did like a sleeping with thousand men in like one day or two. Oh, I saw you.
SPEAKER_04That's that was crazy. Yeah, like like you know, for her, but it's because now there's this social media aspect where people are like, I gotta be the first to do this, and like let me be this person so that I'm talked about and I get all these followers and all these things. Like, do you think that like she really felt good about that? Like, I was like interviews, I'm accomplished and I'm so cool now. No, she probably I'm sorry, but she's behind closed doors. There's probably like a lot going on.
SPEAKER_01But that's speculation and presumption, though.
SPEAKER_04That's true.
SPEAKER_01There's no way for you for me or anybody else to actually know the answer except her.
SPEAKER_05Way before the interviews.
SPEAKER_02Well, I've just seen interviews with Bonnie Blue, and they're like, you know, she's like, I'm so proud, like it was so fun, like I enjoyed it. She doesn't like there's like nothing behind those eyes. There's no feeling.
SPEAKER_04And guess what? I guarantee you, in like 10 years, when she like comes to, she's gonna be like, What was I thinking? Like, what that's I mean, I think she's got to a point where she's just gone, like, but also you're always gonna be that girl. So what's next for you? Like, you gotta do OnlyFans, or you gotta do porn, or you gotta do something like that.
SPEAKER_02I feel like everyone's jumping on on like OnlyFans nowadays, which is fine, which is like like go, girl, like do your thing. I just like hmm.
unknownI don't know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think she's gonna be crying in her mansion, maybe.
SPEAKER_02That's true. She'll be crying in her mansion. Private, yeah. She might be crying in her microphone. I mean, yeah, people are doing their own thing, they're getting that back. It's just like, what do you want to give up?
SPEAKER_01I think any I think there is a level of um wait, didn't she get like did she get arrested?
SPEAKER_04Didn't she get like there was like a whole thing where she got like in trouble for it, right? I think she was somewhere, she was traveling, yeah, and they like raided the mansion or something. There's something that happened because I don't know. Maybe I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I think everybody's um morals and ethics have a price, right? And so it just depends where the line is for you. And and and I ask people this question all the time, even like off the podcast, which is like what would what would you get paid to do the thing that you wouldn't be willing to do? What would be the number? Because there's a number for everyone. Now we've like we've had this one girl on the podcast who was like, There's not a single number that I would take to like sleep with a guy, for example, who just said, Hey, I'm gonna pay you X amount of money to sleep with me. But if somebody paid you a billion dollars, doing it. See, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_04Get the tequila, let's go. Right, let's ride, baby.
SPEAKER_01But here's the thing whenever I say whenever I say a billion dollars, right? That number can change very quickly. Like the moment I say, okay, $100 million. And they're like, Yeah, I'll still do it. You know, fifty million dollars, a million dollars. Like, what's the what's the lowest? Because there is a number for every single person. What's your number?
SPEAKER_04To what? The lowest number. He comes up to it has to be on camera, or you just have to sleep with him.
SPEAKER_01Hey, there's a number for that too. We'll get to it. So, okay. Um, 75-year-old, very ugly, very fat man comes up to you and says, I want to fuck you tonight. A billion dollars.
SPEAKER_02I just like take one for the team. I like I just wouldn't be able to, like, I don't you'll say no to a billion. I'd just be Do you know how much a billion dollars is?
SPEAKER_01I just really like I would say I've all got a lot of people. But it's a 75-year-old night who let him fuck you for a billion dollars? Crazy. Are you insane? Do you know what I would I'm gonna close my eyes and think to myself, oh, this is just a dream, and it's not happening.
SPEAKER_04Disassociate.
SPEAKER_05I don't know. Yeah, but then everybody's gonna know for the rest of your life. And then what?
SPEAKER_04They're still gonna be your best friend.
SPEAKER_05Never have an argument ever. You'd be like, yeah, that's why, like, you have a small dick and be like, you got fucked in the ass.
SPEAKER_01I was I was having this conversation. How many people do you know that have gotten fucked in the ass and nobody cares about it? Here's the reality. Look at the Kardashians. Look at Vinny! Look at the Kardashians. Look at the Kardashians and the Jenners, yeah. It took one moment, and that moment was that Kim decided to fuck Ray J on camera and then let that shit go wild. Yeah, but And that a family has ever since how many billions? I think there are three billionaires in their family now. Yeah. You can't, you cannot replicate this.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but she was having sex with like a like good-looking like rapper. Well, probably. What difference does that make? That's just a perception.
SPEAKER_0275 year old.
SPEAKER_05You'd get banged out by a 75-year-old big job with a hut guy.
SPEAKER_04I mean, first of all, it's gonna be it's it's not like it's gonna last a long time.
SPEAKER_05You never know. This guy's maybe he doesn't even come because he's like, I'm gonna get my money's worth. Like, I just made a billion dollars. Like, I'm gonna last a long time.
SPEAKER_01I was hoping it was gonna come this time.
SPEAKER_05He's gonna use one of those condoms that numbs your dick up so you go on.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01It's a billion dollars and no.
SPEAKER_02Ten billion dollars. No.
SPEAKER_01Hundred billion dollars.
SPEAKER_02No. Like, I just the richest person in the world.
SPEAKER_01And we'll give you a country. A country. We'll give you a country with servants. You're the queen.
SPEAKER_02I mean, yeah, if I'm the queen of the world. What?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Interesting. You'll say, see, see, this is like when a person says no to a billion dollars like that, because like you you're saying, like you're kind of like, uh, I don't know, but like probably a no. You're like thinking about it, right? I think when people quickly say no is just because they want the perception to be that, oh, I would never do such a thing. But also, some people don't care about money. But what's your number then? Like a hundred K? No, I wouldn't not do it for 100k. What the fuck would I do that for 100K for? Like 100k.
SPEAKER_05You seem like you don't really care about getting fucked at the asset. You suddenly feel like you're almost like would like it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, of course. Like, what do you mean? I mean, I don't know if I would do it for I mean, hmm, maybe I would do it for a billion dollars. I don't know. But but it is it is that you do think about it. You know what I mean? Like there is a thought of like, oh wow, like this much money. Although, like a lot of people would say, Oh, like money doesn't matter. The reality of it is money does matter. You know, life becomes easier when you have, well, to a certain extent, amount of money. But you know, after that, it doesn't matter that much. So I guess you gotta find what that threshold is and whether you could get there yourself or not. A billion dollars is gen generational wealth versus like obviously like a hundred thousand dollars is nothing, right? So that doesn't change my life, but a billion dollars does change not just my life, multiple people's lives.
SPEAKER_05So you're almost saying like from a moral perspective, you would have to You have to be morally righteous.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Like you have to get fucked in the ass. Like I'm gonna save how many people? You know, my family, my friends, like it's just like that Diddy baby oil and you won't remember.
SPEAKER_05Maybe. Yeah, that's a good point. Fuck. I don't want to be a bad person. Like, think how many children you could like take out of hunger. Exactly. Put it that way.
SPEAKER_04Doing this for world hunger.
SPEAKER_01Honestly, if you if you if you said to you know anybody, you were like, hey, $500 million is gonna go towards um a million kids that I could save. Yeah. And this is what I did. Like then you're morally correct. This is the sacrifice. This is the sacrifice I made.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna clean up the ocean and I'm gonna cure world hunger. All with getting fucked in the ass. One time. Once.
SPEAKER_05Crazy. You guys changed my whole perspective of the world, though.
SPEAKER_04Do it for the children.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that is funny. Okay. Um final question is the size matter?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_01It does not matter.
SPEAKER_04Well, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. That was very quick. That was way too quick.
SPEAKER_01That was way too quick.
SPEAKER_04Yes, it does. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01You remembered the micro one? Yes. Okay, got it.
SPEAKER_04I actually did. Um yes and no, but not in the way that you would think that it's a no. Like you I think men think that women want this like huge thing. But um I actually prefer schmedium. Did you say schmedium? Like a small to medium.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04But also I mean like all women's is it sh supposed to be bigger or sh supposed to be smaller? Sh medium, small, medium, shhm, small, medium.
SPEAKER_01Okay, got it. So like what is that? Four or three?
SPEAKER_04What?
SPEAKER_01What is medium?
SPEAKER_04I think average is what?
SPEAKER_01Average is five. Five, I believe. Okay. That's a four.
SPEAKER_04Like I would say five or six is good. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Got it. But then six would be high. So medium high.
SPEAKER_04I'll say this. It does matter, but it also doesn't matter because, like if you know how to work it, you know how to work it.
SPEAKER_00If you know what how to work it, you know how to twerk it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's true. Because also, like, if you don't have size, there's other utensils that you can use to accommodate.
SPEAKER_01Was the guy that had the minivan know how to use other resources?
SPEAKER_04Um, no, and that's why it only happened once.
SPEAKER_01Ah, got it. Did you see it?
SPEAKER_04And then we're like, No, I didn't see it. Oh, it was dark and he just Um, it was actually a guy I really liked.
SPEAKER_01That's usually how it happens.
SPEAKER_04We went on like a few dates and he had like a dope personality. He was like super cool and like we vibed. He wasn't like the best looking dude, but we like had a connection. And like I waited, like, we didn't sleep together like right away. And I I think it was Halloween actually that we ended up hooking up, and I was like really disappointed, and it happened, and I faked it, and it was that. No, and then the next mor I even stayed the night because I low key like felt bad. I was like, he's gonna know that I'm leaving because he has a small dick if I leave right afterwards, so like I'm gonna stay the night and cuddle, and then I'm never talking to this guy again. But it sucked because I I I really did like him, but also like physical, um the the physical aspect of things is is important to me.
SPEAKER_05So he got really fucked over in the gene pool, huh?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because like he's like a good dude, like good dude, good personality, like fun, all the things.
SPEAKER_05Was he like rich or something? No, trying to figure out like where God put his skill points in the world.
SPEAKER_04He was like, he's he was a personal trainer, but he he like was like he didn't do bad for himself. Like he had a nice place, he had a nice car.
SPEAKER_01Did you meet him at the gym? Like personal training you?
SPEAKER_04No, I don't remember how I met him. Oh, I met him like through like a mutual group of friends.
SPEAKER_01So he wasn't like he was teaching you how to work out, and then you guys just got hot.
SPEAKER_04No, we met at like like a party, he was friends like with one of my guy friends, and we kind of met through that, and then like we went on a few dates, and then that happened.
SPEAKER_00Got it, got it.
SPEAKER_04And I was actually like mad. I was actually kind of like upset because I was like, shit, like I wanted that part to be good too, but it just wasn't so the size matter for you?
SPEAKER_01I mean, I guess you've only been with two people, so you don't really know what a what a mini band is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't really know. I mean, with the guy I was dating for quite a bit, like it was good. Yeah, so that's like all I really know.
SPEAKER_01Right. Yeah. Right. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. Appreciate it. You guys have been honest and candid and very open. And wish you all nothing but the best.
SPEAKER_02Thank you.
SPEAKER_01We'll see you later.