005 - Let's Get Social!

Listeners will develop a better understanding of how to navigate the expansive space of Social Media and build a larger coach PLN- ultimately, equipping them with a virtual “social circle” to recharge their coaching batteries and get inspired from like-minded people. This episode will cover ideas and tips for coaches new to social media, and those who even have a blue check mark! 

Links mentioned in the show: 

Follow Annamarie on Twitter

Follow Mallory on Twitter

Mallory's Teaching Gamers YouTube Channel

#GoogleEC

@ISTEEdTechCoaches,   #ETCoaches

Global Educator Collective on Facebook

Eric Curts on Twitter and his blog

Matt Miller on Twitter and his site

Kasey Bell on Twitter

Joe Sanfelippo on Twitter

#TeacherTwitter

#Games4Ed,  #GameBasedLearning, #GamesforChange

#VikingDiff

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Podcast Team

Hosts- Katie  Ritter & Justin Thomas

Editing Team- Megan Whitacre, Mallory Kessen, Michael Roush

Social Media/ Promo Team- Annamarie Rinehart, Lisa Kuhn, Molly Lutts

Creative/Content Team- Brooke Conklin, Emily Cowan, Tracee Keough

Research & Logistics Team- Mark Gumm, Tyler Erwin

Producers- Tyler Erwin & Katie Ritter

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Transcript

Katie Ritter: 0:04

hit the restart button to recharge those batteries Aloha and welcome. My name is Katie Ritter.

Justin Thomas: 0:34

And I'm Justin Thomas. And this is the restart recharge podcast, a podcast by coaches for coaches, we're bringing you tips and tricks to help you in your everyday work as an instructional technology coach, or whatever they call you and your school.

Katie Ritter: 0:49

Oh, hopefully, you're gonna leave this podcast feeling a little less on your own coaching Island. In speaking of feeling a little less on your own coaching Island, stick around for the end of the episode because we're going to share a little bit more information about the two day coaches camp that we are leading, which is specific training for you technology coaches.

Justin Thomas: 1:10

So today, we want to talk a little bit about getting social, our title of our episode is let's get social. And what are we talking about with that, but we're talking about social media, it's a great way to reach out and connect with people all across the world, really. And the idea for today is we want to talk about some tips for new coaches out there, how do you start to set up your appeal and and get thing, get things started there. But also for those of you that have already built up your PLN, we want to get some tips and tricks for you on how to kind of maintain that and even take that to the next level. So overall, we want you to be able to develop a better understanding of how to navigate this expansive space of social media and build a larger coach PLN ultimately equipping you with a virtual social circle to recharge your coaching batteries, and get yourself inspired like minded people. So we're going to talk about those ideas and tips for coaches that are new to social media as well as those of you that have that blue checkmark next to it. So for today, we want to introduce two of our coaches that are going to be joining in with us today we have Anna Marie Reinhardt, which we are glad to have back for a second episode today. And for those of you that maybe missed that episode, we'll get you a little bit caught up on what Emery does. She's taught as an intervention specialist for five years, she worked with students in grades one through three, seven through eight and grade 10. She also taught all four content areas and worked with a wide variety of learners. Emery is now a technology integration coach in a p k to eight building in one of the largest school districts in the state. She was placed in the school after the building was awarded a grant for a one to one iPad program for their fifth through eighth grade students. Now the teachers and admin social workers custodians related service providers, she's working with all of them as they're all one to one she supports all those staff members and students in the building as well. She also supports the special education department and another district through the virtual coaching sessions every other week. Annamaria is also a Google certified educator, trainer and coach. So welcome once again, Anna Marie.

Katie Ritter: 3:11

All right. Thanks, Justin and welcome Anna Marie. I'm going to introduce our second guest today, and that is Mallory Preston. Mallory has taught middle school English in high school computer science for six years working in grades seven through 12. In both rural and urban settings, she is a true believer in learning as an adventurer. She completed her quest to become Google level one and two certified educator as well as a class craft Nearpod and Screencastify. Certified educator. Mallory is now a technology integration coach with us at forward edge, and she was placed in a large public school district in Cincinnati. Outside of coaching, you can find Mallory running the teaching gamers YouTube channel, which focuses all the ways that people can teach and learn with games. And you can catch her and the hashtag games for number four Twitter chat on Thursdays and I think Mallory is gonna get an opportunity to share a little bit more about that with us today. As we talk about let's get social. So welcome Mallory.

Justin Thomas: 4:15

All right, so the first question that we want to pose to both of you, let's say you are just starting out as a coach, and there are so many different social media platforms out there. There's Twitter, there's Instagram, there's tick tock. Now, I don't know if you use that at all or not. But what if you're new to social media? Where do you even begin to start as a new coach or as a coach that already has a platform that wants to get a little bit more involved? Where's the starting point for both of you?

Mallory Kessen: 4:43

I think for me, I would say that if you're brand new to social media, my like the biggest thing like for where I would start is just start small. I think a lot of people start into it going I have to follow all of these different accounts. I have to do these different chats, I have to do all the different platforms at once. Um, but I think that if you're you know, you're comfortable with one platform, start with that one platform like Justin, you mentioned tick tock, right? If you're on tick tock all day anyway, then why not look at like, you know, teacher, tick tock and see what's going on and everything. You don't have to like push yourself to a new platform if you're not ready for that just yet. So I'd say just kind of starting with like, just a couple of accounts are starting with what you're comfortable with this probably what I would suggest,

Katie Ritter: 5:25

when you start to tick tock and throw totally threw me off. But I think like we were ill prepared. And the four of us should have planned like a little tick tock, or something

Justin Thomas: 5:34

we should have, we should have, I think I would have been more

Mallory Kessen: 5:36

like pointing and everything.

Justin Thomas: 5:40

The easiest one start small, right? Start small.

Annamarie Rinehart: 5:44

Yeah, I would agree with everything. Mallory said, although I feel like I was totally afraid of using social media. Obviously, everybody here on the podcast with us knows, but not maybe our listeners, I didn't even know that I had a Twitter if I had had a Twitter at any point. And it became a very big part of my job and a very fun part of my job. So I kind of feel like I was, I mean, sending that first tweet was absolutely terrifying for me, I don't know why it was like, I was like afraid that something was going to be spelled wrong, or it wouldn't make any sense. Or people would think it was funny or something. And just like, it was like ripping a band aid off. And now, you know, I love using it. But to me that was almost doing something that I wasn't comfortable with. And I had to kind of push myself outside of that, like, sure I use Instagram to post pictures of my dogs and stuff like that. But I'm not a big social media person anyway. So I had to get a little uncomfortable, I think with using social media at first.

Katie Ritter: 6:49

Yeah, I love that you pushed yourself out of your comfort zone. Because it's funny, because again, like our team now refers to Anna Marie as like the social media guru, and you really have become very good at it and very clever. But you mentioned that it you know, you you started off not even knowing that you actually had created a Twitter account, at one point, you moved into the role from, you know, being a special ed teacher to now you're a technology coach. And so we need to model and so let's use Twitter, and you you know, you reference that it's now become like a really big and even a fun part of your job. So I guess we'll kind of start with you just because it leads into that, and Randy and Mallory if you want to build on, but if you guys just want to talk about like, how has social media impacted your role as a coach?

Annamarie Rinehart: 7:38

Yeah, so I kind of feel like I'm like the hype person for my placement. And it's really fun to because I mean, like you guys said, I mean, huge school district, right? There are tons of schools, tons of teachers, tons of students in this district. And I just feel like it's a way to amplify the great things that are happening in the building where, you know, maybe like higher level admin, like above the building, you know, they can't get to every building every week, or every month or whatever, you know. So I feel like this is a way to highlight all the great things that are happening in the school, and especially like the school that I'm in is is small, you could kind of argue that it's rural, even though it's only like 15 minutes from downtown Cincinnati, but I just think people would be really surprised, like pleasantly surprised with a lot of the amazing things that are happening in the building. And so I feel like it's really good for the community and the school district. But I also think it's a really good kind of pat on the back for the teachers and students. Because the Twitter page for the district, and and anytime that the school is mentioned, like the feed shows up in the hallway, too. So students get to see shout outs, teachers get to see them being shouted out. And I don't know, I think it's just a really good thing for the school culture.

Mallory Kessen: 8:59

That's great. I think kind of on my side of things. So far in my first year with coaching, I think one of my main ways that I've seen an impact, like what we do is kind of on the opposite side of not just me posting, but the fact that especially in the you know, the year of COVID, in the year of remote teaching, a lot of teachers have been turning to social media as a way to get you know, any tips or advice, they'll come to me and say, I saw this on YouTube, can you show me how to do it, or I saw this on Facebook, I want to know how to do that. So you know, it's actually kind of cool in a way because I think that there are a lot of teachers who are getting to see a lot of really cool things and maybe come into talk to me about things that they might have been nervous to try before but now they see it and they're pretty excited about it. So that's actually kind of, you know, another way that it's impacting it for me,

Katie Ritter: 9:52

I love that they're pushing teachers to use the coach

Justin Thomas: 10:00

and I really liked the idea of having like the view boards that actually have the, you know, the tweets that are piling up, because then that's for something, you know, if there is a teacher that's not really on their social media game, they might just be walking down the hallway and see that and realize, oh, there's some really cool things. And, you know, the teacher, a floor beneath me has been doing so I really think that's also a really cool aspect that you have there at your school and Marie.

Annamarie Rinehart: 10:22

Yeah, and it does lead to those follow up follow up conversations like Mallory, you were saying that was such a good point that, you know, teachers have been seeing things on Facebook, like, I feel like Bitmoji classrooms took the blow, like, right, every one, because they saw it on Facebook, or Twitter or somewhere else. And I had, I mean, tons of appointment just for that one thing, like, how do I set up an emoji classroom? Where do I find resources? And, you know, Justin, to your point, I have had, you know, teachers come up to me and say, like, Oh, I saw that, you know, so and so created a really cool, like, Frayer model and Google Slides, and they color coded it and they had all these cool fonts, can you show me how to do that. And so it, it does definitely lead to like follow up conversations and more appointments for us as well, too.

Katie Ritter: 11:12

That's awesome. And quick question for you both. Before we get into this next question here, but where? Where do each of you spend most of your time like for education purposes? Like what which social media platforms are you on most?

Mallory Kessen: 11:30

For me, it's Twitter is my biggest one for my PLN. That's one that I've had since 2014 2015, that I've been just all about. But my other two big ones, Facebook is growing for me. Because there's a lot of just like, teacher resource sharing. And since my teachers were doing it, I kind of wanted to see like, what are they seeing out there? And then YouTube is my other big one because of my channel and everything. That's a, because that's where I'm posting that information. And there's so many different tutorials and talks and things like that, that it's just a wealth of knowledge.

Annamarie Rinehart: 12:05

Yeah, I would say Twitter is definitely where I spend most of my time. Actually, I feel like my answer is very similar to Mallory's minus, I do not have a YouTube channel NorCal I probably ever, but yeah, right. Um, but I think that, you know, one of the examples of kind of the Facebook aspect of it as I am the district that I'm in, they adopted like, several new curriculums last year, and one of which was this language arts curriculum, the teachers were kind of struggling with, they just felt like they needed more resources. Or maybe like a couple of different looking resorts, they were trying to change it up and keep things engaging for their students, which is awesome. And so one of the places where I pointed them to I said, try joining one of the Facebook groups for that curriculum. And there have been so many resources that have been shared there, like teacher created free ones that other people found, and it's just like a really good way to crowdsource materials and ideas. Wow.

Justin Thomas: 13:09

That's really awesome. Now, kind of a leading question that we talked a little bit about Facebook and Twitter here, and some of those other social media platforms, but what are your top five must follow accounts that you have found as you have transitioned into your coaching role. So a couple examples out there, obviously, you have your hashtag, Google, etc. You have your SD coaches. It's a coach's network, which is at ad tech coaches, you also have the hashtag at coaches, one with Facebook, that actually one of our colleagues, Tracy introduced me to was the global educator collective, or there's just educators all across the world that are just kind of helping discuss what was happening during COVID times and things like that. But overall, what would you say your top five must follow accounts are?

Annamarie Rinehart: 13:57

Um, so this one was really hard for me to narrow down actually, I mean, spoiler alert, they told us this question was coming so we could prepare. But it was hard for me to come up with this. Because I feel like it's cheesy to say, but everyone on our team I love to follow. So like, we won't count them in my top five, even though they would be like my top, you know, 15. But I would say Eric Kurtz from like CTRL ALT achieve, he puts out some really, really great. I mean, blog posts, articles, templates, all kinds of free resources. I would say Matt Miller from ditch that textbook is another really good one. Tons of great resources available through him. And then, shakeup learning Casey bells, she, you know, especially after, you know, looking at all of her kind of like Google training resources and things like that, that you can talk for teachers. I think she's a great resource. And Joe San Felipe though is one of my favorites. Yes, we were lucky enough to have him as a speaker at one of our forward edge events last year, and he was just so great. And like, I don't know, I just find him to be like a really inspirational person. And I don't know, if you don't know about him, you should look him up. Because he is, I think awesome, and just has a lot of really great things to say about education. So I would say those are my top top ones, I think that was five,

Justin Thomas: 15:28

those are some good five, that's a good starting five.

Mallory Kessen: 15:33

I think for me, I'm like, I second, everything that Anna Marie said, um, but I'll try to add on a little bit to it. One of my hashtags that I use on Twitter all the time, is just hashtag, teacher, Twitter. Just it's simple, but it like gets a lot of different people in there. And so it's kind of nice to even just follow that hashtag and see what everyone's saying. Um, and then for me, a lot of the accounts and a lot of the hashtags that I tend to follow, a lot of them focus on games and education, because that's one of my like, areas of passion. So I have the hashtag, games, forehead, and that's number four, that I follow. And that's a really great one for anything that you want. That's game based learning or gamification, any aspect of how games could be involved, they cover it. And then same with following hashtag game based learning. And then another site that I really like to follow the account for is Games for Change. Because what they do is they focus on how we can use games in a way that teaches people in a way that inspires young people, and they have some really amazing design challenges for students as well. So they're really trying to help put the spin on students being able to be designers and creators. And then I have to say that since it's my, my districts hashtag, the hashtag, Viking diff is one that's very specific to the district I work for. But it's been huge in terms of like, how we promote, like our culture and everything. So that's a must follow for, for

Katie Ritter: 17:08

us. Awesome. Yeah, I, I will add one, Justin, you mentioned it, but the E T coaches hashtag from Sen. Tech coaches, PLN, you don't have to be a member of a C to participate, but they do a Twitter chat, at the end of every month, and for me when I would like a specific coaching resource, like when I was first when I was a brand new coach, I participated in those chats religiously, just because I was you know, there's so many great resources out there for like tech tools and tips and like different niches, you know, my our, you mentioned some game based learning, which is awesome. Like we as tech coaches know, we need to know all of these things. But for me, when I was looking for specific, like helped me be a coach, that Twitter chat was always super helpful. So I would just throw that one in. And I don't want to say the wrong date. But I think it's the last Tuesday of every month. Anna Marie, do you know, you're like, oh, no, you smiled, I thought maybe you might know. And I was saying it wrong. So well. Anyway, we'll link everything that these guys have said, and I'll figure out what the right date and time is in the show notes for our podcast. But you can look it up using the hashtag at coaches. But that was a great one for like specific coaching resources I want to throw in. Oh, for sure. And

Justin Thomas: 18:27

I even would argue that you could even start to follow some of the areas schools in your region and just see what schools that are, you know, kind of like minded and same location are kind of putting out there and maybe they get you some ideas and inspiration to take to your school. And if you're putting stuff out there as well on social media and they start to follow you maybe that will also maybe create some connections, some cross district collaboratives maybe perhaps so I would even just reach out and say you can you can do that as well. I don't know what the area schools are in your district where you're listening, but go for it. Yeah, that's great. And with that, I think we will talk a little bit more about getting yourself socialized on your social media. After this momentary break from our sponsor for the podcast. Looking for a program that reaches all teachers and learning new tools to integrate in their lessons and you badges is the answer and you as an anytime anywhere badging program that is designed to take bite sized tools for instruction and teach teachers how to use them edgy has received the STC of alignment for Educator Standards, and each page in our expanding library is aligned to the ISTE standards and the Samer model. Learn more about the program that teachers call addicting at four hyphen edge dotnet backslash edu badges.

Katie Ritter: 19:42

Alright, welcome back. Thanks for sticking around for a short little sponsor break. We are here with Anna Marie Reinhart and Mallory kesin. Talking about getting social and how coaches can use social media for their advantage to better their practice and to help the teachers and educators that we serve. So We've talked a little bit about some of the social media platforms that we're on, and some of the great accounts that we follow to get some resources and kind of what it has done for us in our coaching practice. And with all that being said, you know, social media is going really fast. And I know sometimes, especially for myself, like when I have a lot going on in the world, it can feel really hard to keep up with sometimes. But I know like, when I do have a chance to sit down, I almost always walk away with a great idea that I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I want to do that, or we need to do that, or I need to implement that. And sometimes it happens. Sometimes it doesn't, because it's out of sight, out of mind. But I'm just wondering maybe what tips you guys have in how you take, you know what you see on social media, and make sure it gets implemented. I'll just share one thing that I've done in the past. And that is, when I was able, when I had a little bit more time to participate in Twitter chats a little bit more frequently, like I mentioned, I have participated in et coaches pretty religiously, I would always try to do write up a quick blog post afterward. And like any tweet that I had liked, or was really like, this is a wonderful idea, I would include it in the blog post and one give the people credit for like sharing the idea, but to it was a way for me to go back and reference once I had the time and had the headspace to like, Okay, what was it that I got out of that chat that I want to, like, take time to implement with my teacher? So that was one strategy I use, but I'm just wondering, like, How do you tackle all of the things coming at you and actually make sure that what you're seeing gets implemented, and it isn't just like fun time wasted on Twitter, or Instagram or whatever else is out there.

Annamarie Rinehart: 21:49

Um, right now I send out a weekly summary email, that seemed we tried a couple of things out, I used to do a smaller and it was like, really, really nice. And it took me forever to put it together because I was putting all kinds of images, you know, like working with the different layouts. But I just felt like it was almost like too much information to give people and so then it was pretty easy to like, look at it, and then be like, I don't have time to read all that right, like, and that was totally my bad. But I feel like these like weekly summaries are better. And that is a great opportunity for me to kind of feature things that I have seen on Twitter, kind of like tease it a little bit and be like, if you're interested in making something like this totally reach out to me, or like, let's set up a time. And anytime I can include a visual with that, I just feel like you know, taking a screenshot of the tweet or taking a screenshot of whatever it was that that teacher created, again, making sure to give them credit for that. I think that that just helps kind of draw everyone's attention back to what it is, you know, I'm trying to tell them about and I have gotten a lot of great responses doing it that way. And people are, you know, reading these smaller, kind of like bite sized emails and walking away wanting to learn whatever it is, I've shown them in the email. So that's been helpful for me love that.

Mallory Kessen: 23:10

I actually have a pretty similar experience with Anne Marie, where it was actually like you were telling your story. And I'm sitting here like, yeah, like I'm going through that right now. I had like the monthly newsletter I was sending out and everything and it was beautiful. Not really as well read. And so I actually started just including like a little tech tip of something I picked up or something that I heard a lot of people asking about in our Tuesday tech updates. So everyone in the district knows that on Tuesday, they're going to get a Tech Update from me. And so I would include a tip in there. And that would help out. And I think the other thing, too, that I've done in terms of implementing things is that if I see that someone says something cool. Like Katie, you mentioned, if someone had a great idea in a Twitter chat, I'll reply back to them, or I'll reach back out and say, Hey, can you talk to me more about how you did this? And just ask them like more questions about it? Because part of what that I think does is that, you know, like you're saying, like on social media, everything can fly by and especially in a Twitter chat, everything can just fly by real fast. So I'm taking that time, I think to just reach out and say, Hey, can I talk to you about more of what you did? Helps like us kind of see how it can be implemented. And it also kind of helps deepen that relationship to with you know, the person you're talking to that it's more than just we've liked it, we replied to it, but we're having an actual conversation about it now. So that's another thing I think that can help out.

Katie Ritter: 24:36

I love that so much. Are you having like, are you just typically if you do that, are you like just corresponding with direct message or do you exchange email or do you hop on a video chat or what? Yes.

Mallory Kessen: 24:50

Yeah, it depends on the situation. I've had some I've had some cases where it actually start off as a Twitter chat, and then we'll like be direct messaging or then it'll turn into you know, we He talks about collaborating on something or we'll talk about how could like, we implement this in like our school or an artist, Director, things like that. But it depends. Sometimes it's become video call. And that's actually how the games for Ed Twitter chat started, was there were a bunch of us who were interested in game based learning, but we didn't really have a spot where we could talk about it. And so we started with direct messaging, and then hopped on a video call and said, Hey, let's get this Twitter chat started. That was six years ago, I think. Yeah.

Unknown: 25:32

Cool.

Justin Thomas: 25:34

Yeah, that's awesome. So obviously, you don't have any imposter syndrome on jumping right into social media. But let's say that you are, you know, you've been on Twitter for a while you're following all these different accounts. And you're just kind of you're just kind of, you know, browsing, and you're just kind of taking it in. But how do you take that next step to get rid of that impostor syndrome and actually jump in, dive right in and start to join in these Twitter chats and these conversations and reach out to other coaches and educators?

Annamarie Rinehart: 26:02

I mean, I think one great way is to do exactly what Mallory just said, like send a direct message to continue that conversation or get more information. But I will also admit, I am totally guilty of being the person that likes and retweets and maybe doesn't always comment, like, because maybe I just have a couple of minutes, and I'm trying to get through, you know, everything that I feel like I've missed for the day. But in terms of like, deciding that you're going to join a Twitter chat or hosted Twitter chat, you just have to do it, I feel like with me, it's just like, it's like ripping the band aid off, like carve that time off, like set it aside on your calendar, because, you know, a lot of times those happen, like in the evenings, and so it's I think easy if you don't have it written down somewhere, or plugged into your phone or something to forget, and they really are worthwhile to participate in. And I think one of the biggest kind of takeaways from the Twitter chats that I've participated in or hosted, it's just the connections that you make with people, even if you're not walking away with like, you know, 15 brand new ideas that you've never heard of. I mean, maybe you are but also maybe you're just walking away with like, a couple of new points of contact or people that are going to be part of your PLN so I don't know, I mean, I feel like just just going for it, giving it a shot. Like it's kind of the best way to do it. I don't know Mallory, do

Mallory Kessen: 27:27

you have any like better Yeah, cuz I cuz I was about to jump in. And when Justin was like, you probably don't deal with impostor syndrome. I deal with it daily. Anytime I work on a YouTube video. Anytime I post my YouTube video, every single time I'm like, I think I should I think okay, but is it good enough? Like, what if they don't like it? What if I, I have I 100% back Anna Marie on that, it just comes down to doing it. And I know, it sounds like because I was in the situation, especially for YouTube where my face is on screen, in addition to my words being said, and everything. Um, you know, I, I every time I heard people say you just gotta get the first video done, you just got to get the first like, you know, and same with Twitter, you just got to get the first tweet out there. You just gotta get the first one done, rip the band aid off. Every time I heard that, I thought know that there must be some other secret. It really is just that it really is just getting that first one out there. My first YouTube video I have nothing but glare in my glasses. And like it just shines the entire time. And honestly, that's okay. Like it's you know, like I said, first video and everything, it's you learn from it. If your first tweet doesn't get a ton of responses, and like it doesn't become the most viral thing. Fine. It's okay. So I think it's just taking it bit by bit and everything. And you know, trusting that that your with your own experience, you have something valuable to add to everybody has something valuable to add as part of what's beautiful with you know, social media is that we all have some pretty valuable and different insights into things. So just trust in your gut on that. And yeah, like Henry said, get it done. I'm I'm almost up to 10 videos now. And I still feel that way every single video.

Katie Ritter: 29:11

And I love that that was such great advice. And I think I do feel like everyone, especially when you first start like we're all nervous to send that first thing I remember the first blog post I published I was like, I'm not telling anybody I'm starting a blog, like I don't want anyone to find it and read it. I figure out what I'm doing for a little while first and you know, like I still get nervous even submit for a conference presentation. I'm like, What do I know that other people don't know? So I just you know, we all have it. I love that you girls are just giving somebody the encouragement. So hopefully somebody listening who hasn't, you know, dove in is going to be able to contribute in you know, I recently I was talking with some coaches and you know, kind of the same thing was being talked about a little bit and they referenced that sometimes You know, because social media is going so fast, like, you know, if you don't have your phone open looking at it, someone else sees it first and they respond. So like, why would I respond, but Mallory to your point, I love that you said, you know, we all have something to contribute. And so not that we just want to create this like huge echo chamber. But I just think like, we do have something to contribute. And I just think about the conversations we have on our team. And it's like, yeah, I've done that. And this is the slight way I tweaked it, that leads to the next person tweaking it in this way, and the next person doing this, and suddenly, we have a brand new idea, like eventually. So I would just add, like, even if you feel like you're kind of saying the same thing, like maybe even just to like, acknowledge that, yes, that's a good idea to give somebody that extra push to go with it, or, you know, like adding your one other insight to it, like can really help along the way. So I think that's great.

Justin Thomas: 30:52

I mean, time into it. There was a time when I was looking at a scrolling Twitter, and then there's a Twitter chat. And so yeah, it sounds kind of interesting. So, you know, I was like, Oh, what the heck, I'll say something. I was thinking as I like, sent it. I was like that warnings kind of weird. I don't know if that makes sense. And then I like put it down and went and got a snack or something came back. And there was like seven people already liked in the instant people were commenting. So I mean, people really do in these in these Twitter chats. I mean, it really is a great way to build a network and people will start to, you know, just reach out there and talk to you. And for the most part, every experience I've had, most people are always like, Oh, that's a really cool idea. Or like, how did you do that? So I think it's really cool of just how everyone is in education university in a coaching universe really does look out for each other and really talk about these awesome ideas. Yeah.

Katie Ritter: 31:40

Um, okay, so, thinking about people who have maybe been on social media for a little bit, and I know that we are referencing Twitter a lot, but I think that's, you know, YouTube said at the beginning, I think Justin and I would agree, like we are also each in Twitter more than any other social media space for education purposes. So a lot of what we're saying applies beyond Twitter, but sorry, if we keep referencing that and you live primarily on Facebook or something. Um, but so just thinking about so someone who's been in the social media spaces for a while, you know, they've sent that first tweet, they've sent a lot of tweets. Um, you know, what's maybe the next step for somebody who's like, just comfortable with like scrolling, reading, liking things, reposting retweeting, commenting back, like, what what advice would you give to the user that's maybe ready to push social media a little bit more to get something out of it?

Annamarie Rinehart: 32:40

I guess I would say again, like we're talking about Twitter again. But I mean, participating in a Twitter chat is kind of I feel like the first step, but then trying to lead one, which again, was kind of a scary thing. But it's not as bad as anybody thinks. And again, the connections that you make there, I think, are really great. But I kind of feel like that's, that's really the next step is, you know, participating in kind of a larger group discussion on Twitter, and then maybe even trying your hand at hosting one because it can be really cool.

Katie Ritter: 33:14

Yeah, and Amory, if I can ask a quick follow up question. Um, you hosted your first Twitter chat this school year. And so how did that come about? Like, did you just say, Hey, I'm gonna host a Twitter chat follow along? Or like, how did that go about for someone who is maybe interested in hosting a Twitter chat? Like, how might they do that?

Annamarie Rinehart: 33:35

So, um, this was through hashtag et coaches. So actually, Katie, you shared a resource with us, and they were like, they need people to host and you just happen to be in the know. And so it was like, Alright, let's go for it. And, you know, developing a topic, I think, is always it can be kind of tricky. Some people, I think it just comes really naturally to them, like, you know, the questions that they need to ask and the topic that they need to cover. But for me, I think I'm kind of listening to the chatter in the hallways of school, listening, you know, to kind of things that teachers are struggling with is what gives me ideas for the questions that I want to ask. Because then what would be amazing is, if I get a lot of really great responses, then I can take those back to my building and the teachers that I'm working with and say, like, I know, this is stressing everybody out. Like, here's some ideas that I crowd sourced from people all over the world, which is pretty cool.

Mallory Kessen: 34:35

Awesome. I think to that when you're thinking about like, what you want to host or what you'd want to talk about, or anything like that. One thing that's been big for me is think about what you're passionate about. Like for me, games, hands down. I love the way that we can learn from play. I love the way we can get to learn from different games have students design those kinds of experiences, things like that. So that is my job. I am. And that's something that I get really excited and like worked up about getting to talk about. So you know, we'll ever host a Twitter chat about some of the topics I'm maybe not passionate about, it's not as likely. So if you're trying to figure out where to get started, maybe think about what your love is. So my neck is gained based learning, maybe somebody else's is social emotional learning, maybe somebody else really digs getting to learn using with tick tock. Maybe it's that you want to work on math, education, whatever it may be, but kind of thinking about what your passion is to and using that as a way like, what is it that the divining rod the thing where you can like, go figure out where you want to go? So using it as your little divining rod of social media?

Katie Ritter: 35:47

I love it. Yeah, man, I just learned something else. So I had no idea what that was.

Justin Thomas: 35:53

So you learn a little bit about everything here on the restart recharge? Well, let's keep with this idea of leading a Twitter chat, I mean, both kind of lead into it. Obviously, doing something that you are passionate about is really important. But how do you come up with this topic or questions, but probably more with the questions along with your topic, you got your topic, but how do you kind of design those questions? And I think the key thing too, is how do you market it to get people out there? I know I've I've stumbled upon a lot of just Twitter chats that had no idea where even happening but I just happen to see it from other educators and coaches that I follow. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll jump into this. But how do you kind of get that ball rolling? So people know about it and kind of scheduling into their schedule? And then how do you keep people engaged with it managing that flow? And overall, what happens if it's just dead? Silence? There's crickets out there, like what happens if no one's kind of tuning in? What what are some strategies that you kind of go through with all those steps there?

Mallory Kessen: 36:44

So I think that for me, when it comes to coming up with a topic or questions, um, one thing that we would usually do for games for Ed was that we would usually it wasn't just one person hosting, we had co hosts. And so even finding ways like where it could bounce it off of each other and go, Okay, we want to talk about this aspect of game based learning on how it can help promote collaboration. Now, how else can we see that in the classroom? So we would kind of take a look at maybe even asking teachers, what are you currently doing? Or like what you know, in a perfect world, what would you want to be doing any limitations they typically see. So kind of looking at how we could practically apply it helped you with having you know, that co host that we could kind of bounce off each other and see what everyone's experiences are, and see if anyone has something a little bit different in terms of what we want to ask. And in terms of marketing and everything. I think I would text my my teacher friends every week that we had going on and just be like, Hey, by the way, don't forget, this is here. Hey, if you can even just share it, that would be great. So a little bit of a grassroots campaign on that front. Clubs. Yeah.

Annamarie Rinehart: 37:57

Yeah, I would say, um, in terms of promoting it, I feel like, you know, anytime there's an image associated with a tweet, it just gets more like traction. I think, especially with Twitter chats, too, because they are moving so fast. If you're not like right there on it, it can be easy to miss a question, if there's nothing really making it stand out. Right. So like, if it's just text, it's really easy to kind of it gets lost in the shuffle. So even just, you know, making a graphic in like Canva, or something that has the question that you're asking just bigger and maybe in a little bit more color, I feel like definitely helps it stand out. And that's also a great way to create marketing materials to kind of like, tease what's coming. But then I also agree with Mallory like having a co host or someone to, you know, do that with especially if that's maybe something that you're a little bit nervous about getting a fellow coach or a or a teacher or somebody who wants to post one with you, I think is a great a great idea and a great way to kind of get started. And just take the edge off a little bit.

Justin Thomas: 39:09

What's your what would you say your from marketing, you talked about those images? What would you say like the products they use? The programs you use most likely are like as a Canva? Or is it something else that you're creating these images for?

Annamarie Rinehart: 39:23

Yeah, I definitely use Canva. I think it's like, just one of the best even if you just have the free version, there's so many free templates. And I don't know it just looks very professional. And I use I use Canva

Mallory Kessen: 39:37

for all of my YouTube stuff. All of my my intro cards, outro cards, Instagram posts, Twitter posts. And what's cool about it, too, is that they have so many different templates that cover so many different types of social media, that I mean, even if you're like I don't even know what I need. You just type in the name of the platform you're using and it pops up with every template you could need. So that's hands down Biggest one that I used to? Yeah,

Justin Thomas: 40:02

I think that's really good. Especially because that image, I mean, that works for me. I mean, it's like they're marketing to me, they know. They're in my head. But if I'm scrolling through and I see an image, I usually just I'm like, Oh, what's this image up? And then I realized, oh, there's like a Twitter chat or something like that. Or if it's like an update for something that I'm following, that's completely different. So I really think that that's a really good pointer to drop in with those images. Because I think people just naturally see something's a little different than just the text, and they want to check out what's going on.

Katie Ritter: 40:29

Yeah, so what how would you handle that last part of Justin's question? What advice would you give somebody like, hey, you've spent the time preparing? You've marketed it? And for whatever reason, probably nothing you did. It's just kind of crickets. No, no chirps going on your Twitter notifications, just nobody's kind of there and participating. What would you what would you say?

Mallory Kessen: 40:59

I think for me, part of what we've done before is, I would say, still go through with the Twitter chat, like I wouldn't, you know, give up partway, just because some I mean, we've all had it and kind of like Emory hit on before they happen in the evening, typically. So it may be someone's just wrapping up dinner, and they're on their way to join it. Or it may be that they're just running late from trying to get something done. So even if it's, you know, you're answering your questions and tweeting it out there and everything, I think that's still really worthwhile. And hey, if you can quickly text a teacher friend and be like, Hey, can you go? Can you like, follow along with us or help promote it to, that can even help with just getting even like a couple of responses out there? Because even when we've had, you know, quiet or Twitter chat nights and everything, there's still always pretty good stuff going on?

Annamarie Rinehart: 41:46

Yeah, I would agree. Just, even though you may feel a little funny, or awkward or something, even though like nobody's looking at you, like, you know, you don't need to feel bad about it, just like stick it out. I mean, I've definitely been there. I, you know, haven't hosted all that many yet. But one of the ones that I did, I mean, I think there were like, three people, like participating. And I was gonna, like, Oh, that's a little bit of a bummer. Especially because I thought the topic was great. But again, I think the timing of it, like, I mean, I'm totally guilty of wanting to put technology away at the end of the day and not, you know, engage in any more, because it does sometimes feel a little bit like work. And, you know, that's just how it goes. But, um, yeah, I just, I would say, don't take it personally. And it probably has everything to do with the fact that people are like, done with their computer for the day, maybe putting their phone away, maybe doing some laundry, making dinner, you know, all that stuff in the evening. So just stick it out. And don't take it personally,

Justin Thomas: 42:48

I would even say to the fact of matter is it stays up there. It's not like it just disappears after certain amount of time. So maybe there's someone that is browsing through it and sees it, you know, maybe even a couple of hours after the fact and maybe it comments in or even just sees it and says, Oh, what if this is a weekly thing, and then they tune in the next time. So, you know, I do like that to just just keep powering through, right? Just keep powering through. Even if it doesn't seem like, there's a lot of people joining the fact of matter, someone is still getting something out of it in the end.

Mallory Kessen: 43:15

Well, I've even seen that as a content creator, that there are times where I'll post videos and nothing like not comments, no, like, like nothing for a little bit. And it's you know, it's weird. It's awkward at first and everything, but you just shrug it off. And then you never know there could come a time when someone is asking about that topic or they're interested in it. And you have a chance to get to talk about it or share like what your thoughts were or say, Hey, did you know we're doing this Twitter chat or things like that? Or like I can share? Hey, there's a video I did that was about this. So yeah, it's it is sometimes to just about timing.

Katie Ritter: 43:50

I love that you love your guys encouragement, because I feel like if I I could have used that I don't know, like eight or nine years ago, I think was when I was invited to host my first Twitter chat. And I was so excited. I was so nervous for like a week leading up to it. And then finally, I'm here I am hosting and I posted the first question and the person who like normally was the host wasn't there. And no one was there. And no one responded to anything. And finally, they contacted me like halfway through and kind of like a family emergency had come up, which is why I hadn't heard from them. But it was sort of a bust and it didn't happen. So I could have used that encouragement then because I was like so embarrassed which like you said Andrea so silly like you have no reason to like no one no one's looking at me no one even knew I was doing it or not doing it but you know, we I think we like really internalize those things maybe more than we should. So I love the positive words of encouragement and younger me could have used them years ago. Um, so I'm thinking a little bit And you guys touched on it a little bit at the beginning. And I was so happy to hear that, like teachers are using social media and bringing ideas to you. It sounds like maybe they're spending a lot more time on Facebook, I don't know, maybe because they're like already on Facebook. And so they happen to see it, which is really cool to get it in front of them. But why don't maybe some ways that you have encouraged teachers to get on social media? And if you have, like, Where have you found successes with that?

Annamarie Rinehart: 45:34

I think probably kind of the best way for me to sell anything, whether it's like meeting with me, or you know, joining Twitter is just framing it as like this can make your life easier, like this could make your life easier, you there is a very good chance you're going to find something that somebody has already created, that you can, you know, like we say, harvest or, you know, try and recreate on your own? And I just, I don't know, I feel like that's kind of the best way to frame it as like, you know, because I think a lot of people think that, you know, there's not necessarily always positive connotations around social media, right. And so I think just also reminding them, like, you can follow whoever you want, you can unfollow whoever you want. And if you just want it to be like, a teacher education thing, it can be that like, it really can. So I think that's especially like for, you know, some of the more veteran teachers that I've worked with, you know, they don't, they're not that interested in Twitter, because they hear about Twitter on the news, or, you know, something like that. And so they're like, why would I join that. And so I think just like, reminding them that it can be whatever they want it to be, and they're likely going to find something super useful, probably a lot of things that are super useful on there. And if nothing else, say this is a way to brag about your students to, I think is a great way to frame it. I love it.

Mallory Kessen: 47:00

I liked your point and worry about you know that it really can be whatever you want it to be. I've told a number of my teachers when we're talking, like, you know, when we were having to do recordings for lessons or things like that, that what's nice with YouTube is that you can make it unlisted, so you can still share it with people. But as I would tell my teachers, you don't have to be the next YouTube star, you don't have to, you know, you don't have to be next YouTube star, you don't have to worry about Joe Schmo in Nebraska finding your video if you don't want them to, if you want to keep it something that's more of like your connected community. Cool. Um, I think something too, that helps out with our district is that Twitter especially has is pretty ingrained into, you know, see teachers sharing out what they're doing administrators, coaches sharing out what they're doing. So much so that our superintendent in the new teachers meeting at the start of the year, one of the first things he talked about was the hashtag Viking diff, the hashtag that we use for, like everything that's related to our district. And it's cool, because it's used really as a way to promote like, what the students are doing and what the teachers are doing that are positive. And it's all about making that difference as a Viking. So that Viking diff. So I think that it's something to that, that's kind of come to be recognized as like a little bit of a point of pride for us. So I think that's something that's helped out as well is being able to kind of use it and show it so whether it's they're just starting off or they you know, kind of get closer to where we are where it's been used for a while. And that's kind of something that's expected can definitely be pretty nice, you me pretty nice way to get some acknowledgement and some kudos for what people are doing.

Katie Ritter: 48:37

I love it. So I think like coaches can walk away, target your admin, right, like, get them caring about it. So maybe it's a good time to set up a meeting with your admin, if they're not on Twitter to get them to understand what the really good things are. And, you know, if you have a school district hashtag, I know some coaching teams out there actually have a hashtag for their coaching team, like, make sure it's everywhere so that people can can see it and access it. That's awesome. I know. One tip that I will add, from what I used to do is always like, you can still do it, like copy a link directly to the tweet. And I would either just like email it directly from Twitter or put it in an email to like the science department, Hey, I saw this, you know, on Twitter, I really thought you guys would be interested in this we were just talking about you know, XYZ like this would solve your problem or you know, something to like get it in front of them so that they can or I always want to talk to teachers to like I saw this idea in a Twitter chat last night. And so anytime I found something from like whatever social media it was, I would reference like that I found this from that social media platforms. So to your point, Annamarie people who have these like negative connotations with it, they would see oh, there is more like good things going on that I could find there.

Justin Thomas: 50:01

And I'll even share a quick story with something that came up, I was actually shadowing Tyler at a school that he works with and was talking to a teacher. And I mentioned what school that I'm with. And she was like, Oh, I know so and so over there. And so I taught, went back to my school and talk to her about it. And actually funny story, it turned out that she had happened to just see her stuff like on Instagram, and then it reached out to ask her about something. And now they're really good friends through that network. So you can you encourage teachers to you know, hey, get on Instagram, you can follow other teachers make those connections, and you maybe maybe make some, some good friendships out of it, too. So we talked a little bit at the beginning about this, the idea that social media is this kind of giant ocean? How do you kind of navigate through this? Like, what, with your experiences as a coach? How do you help new users or users that are kind of been on it and almost feel like it's getting kind of stale? How do you really kind of help coaches go through or teachers in this way? How do you kind of help them with their experience socially, through social media, whether it's as a new coach or as someone that has been out there, and it feels like it's just kind of the same material.

Mallory Kessen: 51:06

So I'm actually kind of going through that, right now with just things like personal life being kind of crazy right now and things like that. And like, I'm in the middle of moving, and at the start of working on the move, I felt so much pressure to like, keep posting, keep checking things, keep looking at stuff. And honestly, it really comes down to just realizing that like, it's okay to take a break. And just allowing yourself that grace, like whether like even if it's that you're like, oh, but I'm supposed to be hosting this Twitter chat every other week, and I need to make sure I do that. Or, in my case, it's I post videos weekly, I need to make sure I do that. And just allowing yourself that grace that you know what, if you need to take a break, take a break, and be okay with that. Because I think that when you when you feel like you need a break, but you keep pushing yourself to check every Twitter chat be involved every single night post every single day, like that kind of stuff. You just kind of ultimately burn yourself out. So allow yourself that grace to take a break, you know, allow that you can even if you want to, like let people know, like, Hey, I'm gonna be back into the Twitter chat next week. But I just need a break tonight, because I have a ton of grading to do. Teachers will totally get it your the other coaches you work with will totally get it. So just kind of allowing yourself that grace is probably the biggest thing that I would say to teachers, coaches and reiterate to myself.

Annamarie Rinehart: 52:33

Yeah, I would agree with that Mallory. And then I would also piggyback off of that and think you know, so maybe you're feeling burnout on Twitter or something like maybe explore one of the other platforms like switch it up. And because I think it can be kind of hard to, like, find new accounts to follow. You know, if you're if you're getting burnt out on Twitter, you've likely been using it for a minute. And you may, I mean, just finding new content could be hard. So maybe start exploring some of those hashtags on Instagram. See if you find anything there. And, you know, joining some of those Facebook groups, because I agree with what Mallory and then Katie, you, you know, set it again, I do feel like that's where most of like the teachers that I'm working with, are finding their stuff is on Facebook. So like, you know, if you find you're getting burnt out, definitely first and foremost, take a break, it's okay to step away, like Mallory said, but then maybe consider switching it up and looking to one of the other platforms for some resources and connections.

Katie Ritter: 53:34

Great advice, ladies. So our last question for you here today. It's kind of a two parter. But beyond social media, what other avenues are you exploring to grow your coaching PLN.

Annamarie Rinehart: 53:54

I feel like all of the Google certifications is definitely a way to do that. Because you're immediately like, lumped into a group of people who you know, care about education and want to make it better. And I mean, talk about like a global PLN that for sure checks that box. I think that, you know, taking opportunities, like stepping up to host something or maybe volunteering to be on like a board of some I mean, I mean, these are like bigger things, but I think they definitely, you know, lead to more opportunities and different ways to grow yourself as a coach and find new resources for your teachers. I know, I'm lucky enough that in the building where I'm in because of the grant that they have, you know, I've been able to apply to be a mentor coach, I mentored teachers in New York City this past year during the pandemic, which was pretty wild. And hopefully I'll get to do the same next year with potentially you know, the same city or a different crew but I just cuz I don't know, I feel like it's taking those those opportunities that may sound a little scary or a little intimidating, and just kind of going for it, whether it's something as small as participating in a Twitter chat or stepping up to volunteer for, you know, something like a mentor position, I just think those are really great ways to, to grow yourself and meet other people.

Mallory Kessen: 55:21

I think I'd add on to that, that, for me, a couple of things that I've seen have been some of the conferences that I go to, whether virtual or in person, I think that's been a good way to get to build on my PLN, that I get to sometimes reconnect with people that maybe I haven't talked to in a while. And so we get to kind of strengthen that connection that was there. But then they're also talking about people they know, or I'm getting to see new people in sessions or things like that. So that's been something that's been kind of nice for me. As well as this is going to be a maybe a little weird one. Because it's not quite social media. But sometimes even just in the forums of different tech tools that I use, just getting to see what people are posting, one of the big ones for me was always class craft, their forums were super active all the time. And so you get teachers posting about different ideas of things, they're using people asking questions and places where you could respond to it. So while it's maybe not as full fledged as like a social media platform, it was also still a really great spot to get to connect with people who were interested in similar things or had questions. And things even that I could kind of help out with. So even if it's that you're helping out in a scenario where it's not posting to the wide world, maybe you can help post to the people who have questions about Classcraft, Screencastify, whatever, you know, Nearpod, whatever it

Katie Ritter: 56:44

may be. I love that great tips, ladies. And I like how both of them kind of led to this idea of maybe kind of forming these little smaller communities in some way or like reaching out, in face to face. You know, on malar, you touched on it a little bit earlier, like in the Twitter chats or on Facebook or wherever, if you see something that you really like reaching out, like, Hey, can we talk more about this. So I just, you know, I just think that that is a super important piece, that you know, that we just don't want to lose like those opportunities. So I love that you guys kind of each in your own way sort of alluded to that any any, like advice that you might give to someone beyond the obvious of just like reaching out to form those, like smaller, more personal connections?

Mallory Kessen: 57:37

This is okay, it's gonna kind of relate to reaching out. But just advice I have like around that. Just the worst they can say is no, the worst they can say is no, the worst that happens is you don't get a response. And I think that's a big one. Because I've used that as a way to connect with whether it's like as a teacher, it was connecting with trying to find authors who would come talk to my class or reaching out to business community members. Even in the you know, the game based learning I do, I would reach out to game developers and ask them, Do you have advice for my students? What can you like? Would you ever want to talk to my students about games, things like that, the worst that happens is they say no, or you don't get a response, which in the grand scheme of things isn't so bad. So I would say just kind of keeping that in mind, if you will, if you really liked someone's ideas, if you're really interested in getting to connect with them, or talk more, and you have maybe some of that impostor syndrome we were talking about earlier, just keep in mind, the worst that happens is they say no, or you don't get a response. That's it.

Justin Thomas: 58:39

And let's be honest, to most people that are putting stuff out there on social media want it to be seen, right. So they probably be more than happy to be talking a little bit more with you about it.

Annamarie Rinehart: 58:48

Yeah, and on the flip side, you know, the best thing that could happen is maybe you end up with like another person kind of in your corner who you can go to and, you know, or connect them with one of your teachers. You know, it is it's like, it's similar to the crickets on the Twitter chat. Like, it'll be okay. Like, you know, if they don't respond to you, or whatever, it'll be okay. But maybe something really cool could happen with just that like one little message or that one little attempt at reaching out.

Mallory Kessen: 59:17

And kind of building on that Ann Marie, I actually have a little bit of that happening now. There was a game that I posted about. And that was one that I had recommended to a teacher who was talking about African American History and wanted to do something for Black History Month. And the game developer is black female game developer. So I reached out and just said, Hey, just throw this out here. I reviewed your game. And it's kind of expected I wasn't going to hear anything. Not only did she watch it, but she like retweeted it and shared it with her friends. And she talked about like, I can't believe that this is actually making a difference for teachers and students or that it could. So I'm kind of working on trying to reach out to her and say like, Hey, would you be interested in maybe talking to this class? asked about it. Like I have a teacher who really wants to use your game with her students. So I didn't think that was gonna. But it definitely is kind of an example of like, really great things can happen. And the benefits definitely outweigh those risks.

Katie Ritter: 1:00:16

And you love it. I love it. And the good news is, is that when it comes to like education, and especially for reaching out to other coaches to try to network, like educators generally just want to help people. So you see a lot of fun, and then maybe other groups and getting a good response. So that's awesome. Well, ladies, those are all the questions that we have for you. Thank you again so much to Anna Marie Rinehart and Mallory caisson for joining us here on our podcast today, sharing all of their tips on how you can use social media to impact your coaching practice and help educators that you serve. So ladies, thank you both so much. Thank you. So just a little bit more information that I promised you at the beginning about the forward edge coaches camp, which is a two day immersive training specifically for technology integration coaches, and those we are the ultimate PD providers, right. And we need our own PD, Gosh, darn it, it's time that we get some PD around here. And so please join us for coaches camp on June 16, and 17th. It will be hosted in person in Cincinnati, Ohio. And we will be actually running it as a hybrid version. So if you cannot travel yet you don't live nearby, you can actually tune in virtually, spots are limited, where we have a total of 20 participants and spots are already filling up. So please, if you're interested, do reach out this two day experience, we are going to be doing a deep dive to help you clarify your role as a coach and get into how you can market yourself. So your calendar is full all year long, we will deep dive into how you can deploy and guide teachers through coaching cycles to make really deep transformative changes across your district. And then also how to plan really engaging and impactful professional learning for the educators that you serve in much more in these two JAM PACKED days. So if you'd like more information on our coaches camp that we'll be hosting this summer, you can visit our website at forward dash edge.net forward slash coach. Yep, that's fo r w a rd hyphen, Ed g.net/coach. Yeah,

Justin Thomas: 1:02:38

I just want to point out that this was something that I got the chance to go through. And when I started as a coach, I actually started mid year. So I was kind of tossed in there and started kind of going through some things and you know, you, you think you kind of know what's going on and then out of nowhere, bam, COVID hit and then I was like Oh, I really hope that I'm doing good job supporting these teachers. So then we started as coaches camp, I was able to kind of jump in there and kind of get some really cool tips and ideas. And it was a cool experience for me because I had been a coach already for about half a year and probably the most unprecedented time to be a coach of all time. But it was just kind of a reaffirmation a lot of things that I was doing, I was doing some really good ideas and strategies and those things were doing that I was doing was kind of reaffirmation that what I was doing was the right type of thing I was I was going through my coaching role with some good ideas but also learned a lot of other really great tips and strategies that I can then use as a coach for this year moving into it. So I think this is a really good opportunity and I highly suggest that you whether you can make it face to face we like to see people in 3d as Anna Marie likes to say, but also if you can do it on the hybrid side we'd love to have you with our coaches can

Katie Ritter: 1:03:46

Alright, so I think this is it. So be sure to subscribe to the restart, recharge podcast, wherever you listen to podcasts at restart, recharge podcast.com And follow us on Twitter and Instagram at our our coach class.

Justin Thomas: 1:04:01

And look we talked about it a little bit here with our social media but we are definitely those people that if you want to talk to us don't have the imposter syndrome reach out to us tell us what you want to see or what topics you want us to discuss and we will be more than happy to reach out and talk back with you and also put it here on to our our our coach cast so please please please tell us what you want to know and we will talk about it here on our podcast.

Katie Ritter: 1:04:25

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Justin Thomas: 1:04:28

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