Eye On Horror
Eye On Horror
June Gloom Review
This week, the boys are back to fight off June Gloom clouds with reviews of 28 Years Later, Pee Wee as Himself, Trainwreck: The Astroworld Tragedy, The Life of Chuck, The Coffee Table, The Ugly Stepsister, Friday the 13th Double Features, Ballerina, F1 The Movie, Predator: Killer of Killers,
Also ADHD hits hard at the thought of a RAD/28 Years Later crossover, comparing Flannigan and Mick Garris Stephen King adaptations, Shudder Marathon recommendations, and more! Its all new on EYE ON HORROR!
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Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of ihorroror.com this is episode 147 otherwise known as season eight. Episode Seven. I'm your host, James Jay Edwards, and with me, as always, is your other host. Jacob Davison, how you doing? Jacob? Doing
Jacob Davidson:good, just having trouble waking up with the June gloom. It's still pretty cloudy out.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, it's a little, I mean, it's going to burn off. And has it been hot up there for you guys? Yeah, it was pretty warm. Yeah, it's been, it's been really hot down here. Also with us, as always, is your other other host, Jon Correia, who I think wants to talk about the
Jonathan Correia:heat? Yeah, well, you gotta remember, I'm in the valley, and Jacob's on the other side of the hill, closer to the water, so it's just like, I'm always, like, five to 10 degrees hotter than where he is. That's quite a difference. Yeah, it's, it's been fun, that's for certain. I don't know why I'm wearing a long sleeve right now. Oh, wait, yes, I do. Could Praise be to Saint Maud.
James Jay Edwards:Oh, geez, okay, it and it is still like, like Jacob said, there's still Jon gloom right now. So it's not that hot. So, all right, you know, I joked about us becoming a monthly podcast. That wasn't a prophecy. That was a joke, but here we are
Jonathan Correia:work schedules. Man,
James Jay Edwards:yep, you know life. Life happens. The first thing that I want to talk about, I don't know if either, do either you guys get to advanced screenings of 28 Years Later?
Jacob Davidson:Nah. I don't think there really were any advanced screenings near me, or at least I didn't get access to them.
James Jay Edwards:You might be right, because our screening was press only, so they might not be doing promo advances, but I saw
Jonathan Correia:I almost did, but it was downtown, and it's it. not the best time to be going to downtown. LA, oh, yeah, right now. So,
James Jay Edwards:yeah, it, yeah, exactly. Okay. So 20 and by the time it'll be in theaters, by the time this posts, so people will have probably seen it. But here's the 28 Years Later to me, it was two thirds of a good movie, because here's the setup for it. It's obviously 28 Years Later, and the British Isles have been completely quarantined, basically to keep the rage virus off the mainland. They've just quarantined the British Isles, and it's working. But all of the survivors and the people who aren't infected, they just leave them on the island to to fend for themselves. They don't let them on the mainland, and anybody who sets foot on the island has to stay there. So there is this little island that that is only connected it is has not been infected, because it's only connected to the mainland by the mainland British Isles, by this causeway that's only accessible at low tide, so it's easily defensible, but the people there have to go across to the mainland to forage and get supplies and stuff every so often, and it's like a rite of passage for the kids on this thing that they go over to this island. So that's the setup, and there is kind of like a Wicker Manny folk horror thing to it, because the people on this island, they're not really primitive, but, I mean, it is 28 years, you know, after and, you know, they they defend their area with, like, bows and arrows and stuff. So there's kind of a little bit of like a, like a cult folk horror thing to it. But when they go over to the mainland, one of the kids who's doing his rite of passage, he finds out that there's a doctor over there that might be able to help his sick mom. So of course, you know, it becomes a journey movie, and it's really good until the third act. And I don't want to spoil anything about third act, but it just, it almost like, it's almost like they're working from a different script. It's like all the rules change. And also the biggest, one of the biggest problems, is the the third act, the the doctor character, they introduce him way too late. And it's Ralph Fienes, which, if you've got Ralph fines in your movie, use him, you know, you know, the first two acts has a lot of that 28 days later. Stuff. You know, it's exciting. The zombies are, well, some of them run and some of them crawl. See, that's another thing. It seems like this. Don't
Jacob Davidson:use the Zed word. Well, these
James Jay Edwards:ones actually might be zombies. That's the that's the funny. I actually had a discussion with a friend of mine who has actually written a book about. Zombie movies. And I, you know, we were talking before the screening about, we're like, Hey, do you consider these zombies? And he said, Yes. And I said no. And then after we watched the movie, I'm like, I think these are zombies, although they still do call them the infected, but these ones are, they're, they're definitely more zombie like. But anyway, it's, it's better than 28 weeks later, I think, but it, but it's no 28 days later, so it's somewhere in the middle. I mean, it is cool to have Alex Garland and Danny Boyle back. And Danny Boyle kind of does some Rob Zombie stuff with the editing, where, like, they'll show like, the they'll show the people from this community, you know, shooting arrows, and then they'll cut to, like a scene from, like an old, like, 50s or 60s movie where they're shooting bows near, you know, like a, like a period piece, like a King Arthur kind of a thing where they're shooting arrows and, you know, without the abrasive score, they do some, some Rob Zombie stuff. But it's a, it's worth seeing. I mean, I give it a solid B. It would have been an A if they had pulled off the third a little better. But it does set up a sequel. The bone temple, right? Yes. And I guess there are two sequels planned and the first one, so I know where you're I know what you're looking at. First
Jonathan Correia:was Nia DiCosta, and it's already shot, baby. Is it shot already? Yep, they already shot the second one. But it depends on how well this one and that one does if they get to finish the third trailer, the third one, yeah,
James Jay Edwards:that's, that's great, that it's, I'm excited that it's Nia DiCosta, because, I mean, yeah, yeah, cuz I don't think she's made a bad movie, yeah, but, um, and, and it does leave it open for a sequel. In fact, it leaves it open for kind of a RAD sequel, actually, because, like, literally, right before the credits roll, stuff happens, and you're like,
Jonathan Correia:BMX bikes?
James Jay Edwards:No, you know what? No, not BMX bikes, but you are not far off, and you'll, you'll know when you see it, what happens? Sorry. Again, it changes the rules.
Jonathan Correia:Sorry, you said it opens it up for a RAD sequel. It's like, find me a sequel to RAD. Fuck yeah.
Jacob Davidson:Okay, so Red's in the post apocalypse using the BMX bikes to get away from the infected.
Jonathan Correia:I don't think you understand how excited I'm
James Jay Edwards:guessing both you are gonna see it, so you'll see what, what I mean. But yeah, again, like, literally, right before the credits roll, it changes things up completely differently. And I think it's going to go in a fun direction, which is weird to say, about a 28 you know, days weeks, years later movie to say it's fun, but I think it's going to get fun, so you guys will see. But anyway, yeah, I think it'll do well enough to warrant both sequels. Because, again, you know, it's, it's not a bad movie. And I think that people are gonna go see it, um, especially because they've been waiting so long for it.
Jonathan Correia:We've been teased for about months later, for years.
James Jay Edwards:What I was gonna say, we've been teased for, like, it hasn't been quite 8-28, years. It's been like, what, 18, I think, since 28 weeks later. But yeah, anyways,
Jonathan Correia:Well, to flip it go in a different direction. it's awesome. By the time this this post, everyone will probably have seen it. So let us know what you thought. Have you guys seen Pee Wee as Himself.
James Jay Edwards:No, I keep, I keep meaning to watch it. It's,
Jonathan Correia:it's not particularly horror. So I'll give the quick. It's a two part Docu, documentary about Paul Rubens, who famously is Pee Wee Herman. And it's, it's very it's, it's phenomenal, especially if you grew up on Pee Wee. If you grew up watching Paul Rubens, it's it's so good. The first one goes through his early years in, like, as in childhood and art school, all through the creation of Pee Wee, which started off as like an improv character that, like, kept getting developed and stuff. And the second half goes through the second half of his life, including the incident in the Fallout. They do cover his PSA, the thrill, the the thrill can kill where Pee Wee Herman says, don't do meth. It's it's absolutely phenomenal. They filmed a lot of interviews with him before he passed. He agreed to do it, and he's a very interesting person. Paul Rubens himself because he went through that experience of essentially being outed as gay, because the whole case against him was that they someone reported that he had CP in his house, but he didn't, but what he did have was an extensive library of like gay literature and pornography. But. And they basically charged him for because they didn't want to leave empty handed. They charged him for obsidian, owning obscenities, and
James Jay Edwards:honestly, the stuff he owned, where I get so pissed off when people you know say that he's had child porn, because anybody who owns a copy of Nirvana's Never mind probably has worse CP than Pee Wee had in his collection, or that, that one blind faith album with the with the underage girl on the cover. It's like,
Jonathan Correia:yeah, no. Paul Rubens had muscle man magazines from the 1950s and stuff like that, like
James Jay Edwards:and part of the problem is he pled guilty just to kind of get it to go away. And the reason behind that is, I think he just wanted to go away because he was already on the RSO list from the theater incident, so his life wasn't going to change from that. So he pled guilty, and I think it was a fine and probation. I don't even think he didn't need jail, so that, in a lot of people's minds, they're like, Oh, he's a he's a pedophile, because he played well,
Jonathan Correia:but again, he pled guilty to essentially being an adult man, owning adult magazines. That's what it was. Because they they reduced the charge, but no one at that time reported the after, and also the theater incident. I mean, come on, it's, it was, it was, it was an adult theater. Like, I Yeah. I
James Jay Edwards:mean, they carry, people are saying, Oh, they carry boxes and boxes of porn out of his house. It's like, yeah. But when they went through it, they found, like, three images from vintage erotica that they deemed were under age. You know? Well, I don't know if they were or not, but it's like, but Yeah, honestly, any like I said, anybody who owns a copy of Never mind. You know, hey, lock your doors. Anyone
Jonathan Correia:who owns Girls Gone Wild owns child pornography, because so many of those women were not verified and were under the influence. So like, Yeah,
Jacob Davidson:but also, I just think the police in general were railroading Paul Rubens because they wanted to get a celebrity down. Well,
James Jay Edwards:yeah, that's, that's like, what Correia was saying. They didn't want to leave empty handed. They, you know, they had this warrant and they didn't find anything, but, yeah, so they looked harder. But, oh, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:outside of that, it's a very beautiful, I mean, outside of the rage that will get inside of you over how cops handle situations, especially with people who are extremely private about their sexuality, it's very beautiful. It's very touching. Paul Rubens is very kind of standoffish with the director. There's often times where he's like, Are you the one directing this? Or am I? What am I telling you everything and all this stuff. He's kind of a he comes off like he's trying to be an untrustworthy narrator, but, like, it's really great. And seeing his his art work when he was young, of like, what he was doing when he was like, before he got into improv, was insane. There's like, one picture, I swear to God, he looked exactly like a young James Spader. And I was like, Whoa, young Paul Rubens could get it damn dude, but yeah, Pee Wee as himself, is phenomenal, and it's making me want to revisit the show and all that. I'm sure they they glossed over some of the behind the scenes drama that happened with that, and because there was famously, a lot of like, people talking about ownership, who helped create the characters and and the show and credit and things of that nature. But that's almost expected when, when you're making a portrait of someone you know,
James Jay Edwards:while we're talking about, um, not quite, horror documentaries, um, I am kind of fascinated by these music festival documentaries, like the fire festival and Woodstock 99 and there's a new one train wreck, the AstroWorld tragedy on Netflix, which, this is the same documentary series as the Woodstock 99 one train, the train wreck
Jacob Davidson:series, and
James Jay Edwards:which, which concert was AstroWorld. AstroWorld was the Travis Scott one, where I think 10 people died because it was very mismanaged. And the thing is, okay, and it goes into this. And the thing is, and they don't really paint Travis Scott as the bad guy, but they do show incidents that happened before on, you know, on his watch, you know, like at his shows, and things that he's done. But, um, this whole festival was doomed from the start, because there's one stage that was only Travis Scott for this whole, you know, two day festival, and the other artists all performed on other stages. So at a certain time, they opened the Travis Scott stage and for people to run in and get their spot. And the thing is, they opened it from this. Side, and there were all of these. They call them, like safety trenches, where there's like barricades where they could pull people out if they needed it. But this created little death trap pockets in the audience, and that's where because the people came in from the side and they run, basically one side filled up and the other side was safe. So by the time Travis Scott went on stage, and people are, like, rushing, and the way they described the crowd, I've been in pits like that where, like, you could, like, pick your feet up and you're still moving with the crowd. You know, like, just, you're you're part of a hole, you're almost, like, in the ocean, kind of a thing. I never fell down in one which is what some of these people did, and they ended up getting crushed and they couldn't breathe and stuff. But I definitely could relate to the feeling of almost helplessness, you know, because you're getting, you know, pushed around, you have no control over where you're going. And, you know, part of it, they interview one of the guys who um, his, his, his friend died at the thing, but he's one of the guys you might have remember when it happened, they showed a couple of people getting climbing up on stage near one of the cameramen, yelling at the cameraman to say into his headset, hey, people are dying. Get, you know, stop the show. Stop the show. They interview one of the guys that was doing that, and they also interview like Live Nation people. And they interviewed a woman who was a photographer for Live Nation who she even says, at the beginning, she says, you know, talking about this may end my career with Live Nation. You know, she'll this. This is I this. I may get blackballed for doing this documentary. Because there were several times when, and there is a point where Travis Scott actually stops the show, and he's always, everybody cool? Is everybody cool? You know, give everybody back up. Give everybody space, you know, because he sees what's happening. I don't think he knew it was as bad as it was. I think he might have seen one person having trouble, yeah. But, you know, again, there were 10 people that died at this festival. But it's really kind of interesting. Live Nation totally dropped the ball on it. They didn't set it up well. And you know, the lawsuits were against Live Nation, the Astro world people and Travis Scott, and you know, they all settled. And I don't know what percentage went to who, but it was just a messed up situation there.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, no, Live Nation. Live nations, the villain who could have seen that
James Jay Edwards:coming? They absolutely are, because Live Nation could, like, there's a guy they interview, one of the EMTs who was, he's a paramedic, and he was just working, like, kind of, like, like, a side job. He's all, you know, this is going to be great. I'm going to cruise around. I'm going to hear some to hear some music, you know, maybe have to give some people some hydration. And he ended up having to, like, full on CPR to keep these people alive until the ambulances got there. I mean, he Yikes. It was, yeah. And one of the people was a, one of the people they interviewed was a nursing student who she was going there to celebrate having passed her boards, and she ended up saving a guy's life. And they reunite them, and they're, of course, they're like, Oh, we're linked for life, you know, because of this AstroWorld thing, you know, I almost died and you saved me. It's, it's nuts. But anyway, it's, uh, I, I'm kind of fascinated by these concert gone wrong. Thing, your festival gone wrong, I should say. And this one, this one might have been more horrific than Woodstock 99 because Woodstock 99 had a lot more like just total frat boy disrespect an essay. But this one, yeah, this one kind of upset me more because I think I related to it more, because I've been in situations like that that just haven't been pushed over the edge, you know. But I've been in, you know, crowds where you literally, you're at the will of the of the whole, you know,
Jonathan Correia:it's like when I got water boarded at Gwar. Oh,
Jacob Davidson:I mean, it's Gwar, so
James Jay Edwards:that's gonna be the next train wreck. Train wreck, waterboarded at Gwar Well, I
Jonathan Correia:was just wearing a K 95 mask, and they hit me in the face with the blood and guts thing for like, a solid 30 seconds. And I can, like, it all collected to the mask, and I couldn't try to take it off. Yeah,
Jacob Davidson:yeah. This is why, when I went to see Gwar, I stood back from the blood zone. What? Where's
Jonathan Correia:the fun in that I was in it, man, I bought a white t
James Jay Edwards:shirt. I was gonna say, do you wear your white t shirt?
Jonathan Correia:Spray painted Gwar on it. It's my little homemade guar. Sure, hell
Jacob Davidson:yeah. Anyway, on kind of again. More horror adjecent stuff. Who else saw Mike Flanagan's new Stephen King adaptation, the Life of Chuck? Oh, yeah.
Jonathan Correia:Who who saw it with their parents? Because I'm seeing everyone is seeing it with, like, their mom or dad. Because I saw it with my mom.
Jacob Davidson:Wow, yeah. No, I just saw it with some friends. But still, I mean, it's such a powerful. Film, and it's kind of hard to explain, or, you know, describe to but it is. It is the title. It's about the life of Chuck, just in a very poetic and kind of roundabout
James Jay Edwards:way. Here's here's the question, how long is it?
Jacob Davidson:110 minutes, and
Jonathan Correia:it doesn't really feel like it,
James Jay Edwards:well, that's not bad at all. Actually. That's an hour 40, okay. Hour 50, Oh, yeah. Hour 50, yeah.
Jonathan Correia:I will say this Life of Chuck is very much a Mike Flanagan project, just without the horror. Like it's, it's, it's the, it's the, it's the long monologs, it's the Carl Sagan references. It's the great needle drops, it's, it's everything that's in the haunting of and other works just there's no jump
Jacob Davidson:scares, yeah, although I would still say it's got some horror elements to it, because there is air the supernatural, and also deals a lot with existential crises, which in itself, is pretty horrifying, especially in our modern times and crises.
Jonathan Correia:Yet that opening third was like intense of like, just feeling,
Jacob Davidson:yeah, the general sense of dread, I think we all feel, but yeah, no, although at the at the same time, though, it is quite uplifting, and does have a rather optimistic view of the human condition. And what a cast. Because, I mean, it's got a lot of the regulars from Flanagan stuff, like Jacob Trembley and Karen Gillen and, of course, Katie Kate Siegel is in it too. But then you got Tom Hiddleston as Chuck, and you've got Nick Offerman as the narrator. And, yeah, no, it just very like every scene, like it's never a dull moment, like it just really hooks you, no matter how benign, or, you know, like minimal it seems like one of my favorite bits is the teacher played by Chiwetel edger. I can never say that name, yeah, it's Yeah, but yeah, he's talking with David Dallas motion about kind of the current crisis of things, and they're laughing about how Pornhub is down.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, that got a lot of laughs in my theater. Would
James Jay Edwards:you guys say that Mike Flanagan is the new Mick Garris? I mean, do you think that he is the guy that Stephen King trusts with his material now?
Jacob Davidson:Yeah. I mean, in that sense, I suppose. But also, you know, just Mike Flanagan's Mike Flanagan Mike Flanagan and Mick Garris is Mick
James Jay Edwards:Garris? Well, yeah, but I'm just saying, you know, it for a while, Mick Garris was getting all of the, you know, all the Stephen King stuff, and now I guess Flanagan has been getting it. The reason I asked how long it was is because Mike Flanagan has been doing mini series, and Stephen King is not known to be brief.
Jacob Davidson:Well, the thing of it is, though, is that this is based off of a short story. So there's only so much you could, you know, add to that. I mean, I haven't read that story, but I can imagine, you know, translating a short story from Stephen King into a feature film is considerably easier than trying to cram a novel, Stephen King story into a feature, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:with the and for me, one of the big first of all, that first third of the movie is just so insanely good and filled with dread, like I don't want to spoil anything, but it's amazing. But outside of that, the one of the big standout points is and they hint at it in the trailers. There's a dance sequence between Tom Hiddleston and Annalise basso, who is a returning Flanagan actress. She was in Oculus and Ouija Origin of Evil. She was one of the child actors in that so she's all grown up. And they had a dance sequence, and it was just like, you're watching it, it's just like, wow. I Yeah, never, I don't know if we've seen a dance sequence in a Flanagan movie, but like, it was shot and choreographed and just so well. And like, it wasn't just, you know, a dance sequence for the sake of a dance sequence. There was, like, a story being told within it and stuff. And it's phenomenal. So
James Jay Edwards:on a scale of one to Oscar Isaac and Ex Machina, where would you put that dance sequence?
Jonathan Correia:No, they're different. They're two different, two different sports. Man, like it was, it was more in, I would say it was closer to, like a Gene Kelly type, really, of like dance sequence, maybe not like as it's, I mean, it's not Gene Kelly doing his twirl, his famous twirl and tap dancing and stuff. But, I mean, like on, like feeling and stuff. It was like watching, like a singing of the rain, or America, American in Paris, type. They had sequence. It was phenomenal. All right,
James Jay Edwards:okay, keep. Be this may be as horror as we have been so far this episode, well, except for 28 years later. Have either you guys seen The Coffee Table?
Jacob Davidson:No, but I heard of it. This
James Jay Edwards:movie is fucked up, very look, I cussed before Correia. I think on
Jonathan Correia:this movie,
James Jay Edwards:this movie is messed up. And I don't even want to really go into it, because there's what makes it fucked up is, is I was glad that I didn't know that was coming up when it happened. But basically, the setup is this couple, they're furnishing their new apartment or their new house, and the guy wants this coffee table that's like these two, you know, Tigers with a glass top, and the woman hates it, and the guy loves it. And the guy, you know, the guy, wins, and he they, they let him get this coffee table, and he gets it home, and and shit happens. It's not, it's not supernatural, it's just, it's just fucked up. And, like I said, I can't even talk about it, but there's something that happens with this coffee table and with this family, and it just, it's one of those things. It's like, you're on the escalator that you can't get off and, you know, and as it's going, you're like, all your stop, stop, come on. This. Can't go any further. Stop, stop. Oh, man, it is. It's messed up. It it is. It's on. Shudder. So that's your guy's homework. Watch the coffee table,
Jacob Davidson:all right? And it's a Spanish film, right? Yes,
James Jay Edwards:it is, yeah, so you will have to read some yes, subtitles, but you know, well,
Jacob Davidson:I just meant that it's from Spain, right?
James Jay Edwards:Yes, yeah, it is. But yeah, it's a I it is. It'll ruin your day.
Jonathan Correia:Well, if you want to ruin your day, shudder, double feature, I highly recommend The Ugly Stepsister, which, oh yeah, I think just hit Shudder. And I just watched it last night. And I don't say this lightly, where I where I tell people that like this movie upset my stomach. There's two other movies I can think of that have done that it was Dead Alive the first time, or the pus scene and Imprint the river scene, if you know what I'm talking about, yeah, no, do you know what you're talking about, Imprint made me miss class. I watched it before class one day, and I was like, I feel violently sick after that scene. Ugly Stepsister killed on my appetite last night. It's from Norway, and it actually features Ane Dahl Torp who was in the first Dead Snow and also the first two Wave movies. So you know already I'm in it, I'm in it, and it's basically Cinderella from one of the ugly stepsisters perspective. And I one letterbox review said it's the substance, but make it bigger. 10 and, almost there's a lot of body horror in it, but basically this the ugly stepsister, the, you know, the her mom marries Cinderella's father, and then the father almost immediately dies, and they find out that neither family had any money, and so a lot is put on her and Cinderella to marry the prince at the ball. And so they get invited to the mall to the ball, and the ugly stepsister goes through, I don't know what year, what? What decade was it? 1500 1600s or whatever. She goes through plastic surgery like insane, and it's all old school. So, like, they go to fix her nose, because on the on the cover, you are on one of the posters you see she's wearing like this, like nose brace. It's gold. And the director does this, like, really amazing thing on some of the grossest scenes where they, they have it play out in a wide and you just sit there and it's, and it's always a bit where someone's holding like a hammer overhead, and they hold it for minutes, you're just like,
James Jay Edwards:you're just like, that's, I was gonna say, old school plastic surgery, as in, breaking the bones with a hammer, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:and then bracing like, no anesthetic, no anesthetic. Oh, dude, that doctor, he's French, and he just goes on, duh. And I just immediately am like, no, no, no. There's also, I don't know, to spoil it, but she, she does a weight reducing thing that comes. She eats a tapeworm to lose weight. And she, let's put it this way, she has it inside of her for far too long. And the there's a sequence with that tape where that that made me nearly puke. It is, but outside of the, I mean, outside of the gross factory, because, like, it's, it's a few scenes. It's really well done. I really like how the stepsister is the protagonist of the story, but they don't quite make Cinderella the villain, nor the stepmother. Like, everyone has their own motivations, they're all very fleshed out, like
Jacob Davidson:it's really Shades of Gray,
Jonathan Correia:yeah. Like the reason why the step family, or IE, the stepmom and stepsister are kind of mean to Cinderella, it's that again, it's so important for these girls to marry rich in order to keep the families going, because they have no they can't do anything else but be married off. And Cinderella is caught with with the stable boy. And so they kind of are like, well, you just fucked everything, because the prince only wants a virgin. And so that's when they start, you know, making her do housework and that she doesn't get, get it, get to go to the ball, but she goes to the ball anyways. And there's just, like, all these, like, really insane scenes about just like, what one does to the female body to get to that ideal look and stuff. There's a very if you've seen Dario Argentos Opera, you'll appreciate one of the scenes in the movie famously. But yeah, it's really well shot. What super well acted, and the director definitely has like a flare for some really beautiful camera work, like the DP on this killed it. It's not a boring movie at all. Like everything just flows. Everything keeps going. And, yeah, it was a fun, very gross watch. I mean, yeah.
Jacob Davidson:And it is interesting that it's a Nordic adaptation, and draws so heavily from the original kind of grims fairy tale version, which itself was pretty brutal and gory, you know, the lot of foot trauma, but, yeah, no, I actually was lucky enough to see it at Alamo a while back. And I'm glad more people are discovering it, because I think the problem was, is that a lot of people thought it was one of those kind of public domain horror cash ins where they're like, oh, it's based off of public domain fairy tale. But no, no, no, this is like, next level. Is very intelligent, but also ridiculously gross with the body horror and she had, jeez, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:no, ugly stepsister. There's your shadow Shudder double feature, that and coffee table, and
Jacob Davidson:if I can make it a shudder, triple feature, Oh, no. Okay, it's got this be more of a pick me up. But have you, either of you seen They Call Her Death,
Jonathan Correia:no, but you talked about it last time about it? Yeah, yeah, it's
Jacob Davidson:now on. Shudder, okay, um, and yeah, I talked a bit about before, but I still highly recommend it, where it's basically this kind of low budget throwback to Spaghetti Westerns from like the 70s, where it's got a great revenge story, and it's got got a good cast, and it has some particularly brutal Gore, especially one scene where the heroine has got a bad guy by the balls, literally. And, yeah, no, but it, it is a lot of fun. And, yeah, they added it to shudder. So I'd recommend checking it out if you can.
James Jay Edwards:There's your pick. You pick me up after, after the coffee table and the ugly stepsister. So you, you've got a an Eye On Horror approved triple feature for shudder. When are we going to get sponsored by shudder? I think we all pay, don't
Jonathan Correia:we? Yeah, we do, which, by the way, also, I don't know if I if this had been known before, but I got really excited. Shudder, has Pontypool, I don't know. Yeah, that's a good one. I don't know how long they've had it, but I've been meaning I've been wanting to revisit that one for a while, and it hasn't been on anything streaming, and the blu ray is insanely priced, so I got real excited seeing that. So yeah, quadruple feature, fucking features, I don't know.
Jacob Davidson:And back on horror, this month is pretty noteworthy, June, because this was our last Friday, the 13th of the year. And to celebrate, I went to the new Beverly, and actually went to a Friday the 13th double feature of two of, I think, the lesser acknowledged entries in the franchise. Friday the 13th part seven, the new blood and Friday 13th Part Eight, Jason takes Manhattan. Nice, yeah. And personally, I think Friday 13 part seven may be my, my favorite of the franchise, just because of how out there it is, you know, being directed and with effects by the famous Jon Carl beaker, who gave us ghoulies, and I think, did one of the greatest Jason Voorhees designs of the entire franchise, masked and unmasked. Because, you know, like at this point, Jason's been through it so much and been so waterlogged that when he's out of the water, he's got like half the Mask broke off, so you can see he's got this giant broken jaw, and he's all rotting and gross. And
James Jay Edwards:seven is Jason versus Carrie, right?
Jacob Davidson:Yes, exactly. And cool, funny enough. At the screening, went to the new biv. They had the writer, Darrell Haney with the the male lead, Kevin spirits this and, you know, it was interesting hearing them talking about the the development and production of the film, particularly from Darrell Haney, because apparently the Jason versus Carrie thing was kind of a last minute thing. Like, he like, it was interesting. They said originally, one of their big pitches was that this evil land developer is building high rise condos on the shores of Crystal Lake, and that's what activates Jason. And it was kind of an environmental thing, and the studio wasn't really going for it. So he said, you know, they're trying to do Jason versus Freddy, but that's not working out. So how about we have Jason versus Gary? And they loved it, and that's how we got the Friday 13 part seven that we did with lar Park Lincoln as Tina, who sadly passed away this year.
James Jay Edwards:I now I want to see Jason versus the condo developers.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, who does it? That sounds like a great movie.
James Jay Edwards:Let's Yeah, like we haven't enough already. Let's step away from horror for a second and go to action. Because there's a couple movies that I've seen that I don't want to spend too much time on, just, I don't want to chime in on. Have either you seen Ballerina? Not yet. Ballerina is, it's from the world of
Jacob Davidson:John Wick. Oh yeah, spin off.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, it is. And, I mean, it's, it's good, it's a good act. I mean, the fight scenes are amazing, you know, as you would expect to be, I think the Chad Stahelski went in and re shot some of the, some of the fight scenes, because they, they have more of a stunt man's eye to them than than your typical action movie, I should say. But um, it is basically about a girl who is in the the same family that brought up John Wick. You know, it's like a an assassin family, and her father was killed, and on one of her assignments, she sees this branding. It's like a it's like a scar on the wrist. And so she's like, Okay, this is the tribe that killed my dad. So she goes on, like, Revenge Mode. And it's Anna de armas, who she, she's okay in it. She, I think she takes the emotionless assassin part a little too far, because she comes off as a little wooden. And I also don't think that they took full advantage of the John Wick world. You know, it's, it's a little one note in the world, but it is exciting. It's got great fight scenes, and it does go places. That is, I mean, in retrospect, it's pretty predictable, but at the time, I was like, oh, that's kind of clever. You know, one of those kind of deals. But you know, if you like the John Wick movies, you'll probably it has the same humor of of the John like, at one point, she's talking to this guy who's going to sell her weapons, and he finds out what she's going to do, and he goes, Can I be frank? And his name tag says Frank, because his name is Frank is just kind of, you know, one of those visual gags that you get from the John wick movies. But also another action movie that actually does not come out until the 27th so it it won't come out until after this posts, but embargo is lifted, so I'm going to talk about it.
Jonathan Correia:F1 the movie how dad
James Jay Edwards:is, dude, it's pretty Dad, it is super. Dad,
Jonathan Correia:it eats the turkey deli on the way home from the grocery store. Dad,
James Jay Edwards:this, this, to me, it was kind of a tale of two movies, because I kind of compare it to any given Sunday in that when they're playing football in Any Given Sunday. It's totally exciting, and I'm loving it. But then when they go to that off field soap opera stuff, it just kind of loses steam. This is kind of like that, although the off track stuff, first of all, the on track stuff, is amazing. It's incredible. The the way that it's shot, it's just adrenaline pumping, you know, exhilarating. You know, you're there in the car and in the pit with them. I mean, it's just, it's amazingly shot. But the off track stuff, some of it is kind of exciting, because basically what it is is that Brad Pitt plays this kind of washed up, but still talented and troubled race car driver, and Javier Bardem. Javier Bardem comes to him, as he's like an old teammate of his from like 30 years ago, and says, Hey, you know, maybe not 30 years but like from a long time ago. And says, hey, you know, I own this Grand Prix team, and we suck. We need to turn this around. I need a driver. So he comes up and he and he's already got another driver. So Brad. Its character coming up, kind of, there's a rivalry between the drivers, and then they're constantly trying to improve the car. And there's this thing that if they don't, if they don't rise in the rankings, they're going to make Javier Bardems characters sell the team. So it you know, there's a lot of soap opera stuff, and some of that is engaging, and some of it isn't. And I'll tell you, this is a little bit of a spoiler. But what really pissed me off about it the lead tech of the car development side is played by Carrie Condon, and she's this, you know, super capable, super intelligent woman who designed this car, and it's all great. And then this is where the movie lost me. They hook her up with Brad Pitt. And I'm like, did you really have to make her a love interest? I mean, I know you have Brad Pitt in your movie, and he's got to kiss someone, but that just kind of that kind of lost it for me. But there is a female pit crew, woman who, thankfully, they didn't hook her up with the other driver, which I thought was going to happen. But what surprised me most about f1 is I thought it was just going to be about, you know, winning races and driving fast. Brad Pitt's character, he's all about winning, but it's also causing chaos on the track. So a lot of the stuff that he does is to help the other driver win, and he causes like chaos, and some of it is barely within the rules. Like, they keep asking, you know, like, after the races, you're gonna get fined for that, he's all, am I what rule did I break? You know? And like, there's stuff that he does that basically to help his teammate that isn't quite illegal, but it didn't make him any friends. So it's all about chaos on the track. And I like that. I'm glad that it wasn't just about pedal to the metal. Let's drive fast and get through you know, there's, there was just a lot of, you know, like, like, at 1.1 of his first races, see, he's, he's one of the last cars in because he was a late addition, and he starts his warm up lap late so, you know? And the commentators are saying at this point, they're like, oh, wow, he's all and meanwhile, all the other drivers tires have cooled, and he's going to be going on warm tires. And you're like, pretty sneaky, Sis, you know he, I mean, he knew what he was doing. At first, they're like, oh, what's he doing? Is his car stall, what's going on? And it's one of those things that you know you're like, is this really fair? You know, there's nothing that says he can't do that. But yeah, so anyway, f1 total dad movie. And you know, if you don't mind the fact that, you know, they take the strong, capable woman and turn her into a love interest, you'll be all about
Jonathan Correia:it. Before we go, we have to talk about
Predator:Killer of Killers. Oh, yes, we have to, yeah. I
Jacob Davidson:mean, especially because we are the only people in, like, some of the few who got to see it theatrically,
Jonathan Correia:yeah, Jacob and I got to go to the world premiere at the Egyptian for Killer of Killers. And we said it with Prey. We're gonna say with killer of killers, it needed to have a theatrical release that is an epic as fuck movie.
James Jay Edwards:This is the animated one, right?
Jonathan Correia:correct. So it's an animated anthology. And I'm, I'm fairly certain when prey came out, and everyone was going, I want my Predator movie set in samurai time. I want my Predator movie set in World War Two. I want my and like, everyone was giving out, like, timelines and like, and they're taking notes. Yeah, I'm fairly certain they went, That's not a bad idea. But what I didn't know is the animation studio behind it. It's their first animated movie. They're actually a previs company, so they would basically create the movie in CG, like, have scenes play out, like animate scenes, so that directors can see it, and they can make notes on, like, camera angles and things of that nature. And so they were they, and they had been working with Dan trattenberg for years, and when they started developing this idea, they were like, We can do this. And for first time, animated film, it looks fucking gorgeous, like it is such a cool animation design and style that they chose, and they match the worlds perfectly, because it's the three main worlds are, what is it? It's a Viking where you have a dual shield wielding Viking warrior woman as and she's so cool and bad ass. So
Jacob Davidson:she's a shield Maiden,
Jonathan Correia:shield maiden. There we go. She's an absolute icon. And then it's ninja and Samurai. And then it's a, I believe it's World War Two.
Jacob Davidson:World War Two,
Jonathan Correia:yeah, dog fight. So you have a predator and a ship versus World War Two era fighter planes. And it's, there's another boat. We're not going to spoil anything, but it is so much fun. It's so bloody. It's, it's fucking predator. Through and Through. Like, Ah, what a meaty movie. What do you think? Jacob, Oh,
Jacob Davidson:I loved I loved it. I had a fantastic time. I loved predator. Killer of killers. It delivered on, as you were saying, something that the people wanted so much because, like, it's been established in the canon that predators have been hunting humans throughout history. So there's just such a bunch of different ways that you could do with the concept. And it really brought me back, because, like, I grew up on the Dark Horse Comics, predator stuff, which had a lot of that with, like, predators versus pirates and Predator rampaging for a 1950s Hollywood lot. So you there's just so many different things you could do with that idea. And without spoiling it, they do add some unique spins on the mythology and how that kind of ties together, and what Trachtenberg might be building up toward. But yeah, it was really good, and I and seeing it in theaters really did make a difference just with how pumped the audience was, and like they applauded whenever the big one of the big fights came to a very bloody end. It was really cool. I yeah, it's just such a good time. And I hope we get another one of these, because there's just so many different time errors that you could go into. And
Jonathan Correia:it's insane that they made this while making
Predator:Badlands, like it was being done same time. Crazy co directed it with the animation director. So it's, it's, it's a little more understanding on how they were able to do it. But like, that's still a huge undertaking, making two predator movies and keeping one of them like, super secret. Like no one knew they were making this animated film until they dropped the trailer, so, but they knew there was a second one. But yeah, insane, and yes, there's a predator to reference in it. So, you know, I was happy actually, at the premiere, they were like, hey, what's ever because Dan trattenberg was there and all them, and they're like, What's everyone's favorite Predator movie? And everyone's going Prey! Predator! and I just top of my lungs, Predator 2! And the guys at the Egyptian were like, who, who said it was Predator 2? Like, who's that psychopath out there?
Unknown:That was me, baby.
James Jay Edwards:Were you wearing your skeleton onesie?
Jonathan Correia:No, I don't remember what I was wearing. That was a long day. There was a guy dressed up as a predator there too. It was just, it
Jacob Davidson:was just a fun time. Yeah, yeah. They had the giant Viking predator from kmb. Oh
Jonathan Correia:yeah. They had the life size statue of the of the Viking story predator. And, yeah, he got a booty on him. Was it? Jake, Jacob, I think it was Dustin to try taking a picture with the predators, but and he did. He yelled at him.
Jacob Davidson:Well, they didn't yell at him. They just told him to not get so close to it. Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:yes. They were very respectful, but they were very much so like back away from the predators. Booty, sir.
Jacob Davidson:Pretty much was Chris Hansen there. No,
Jonathan Correia:no, no. Maybe they're
Jacob Davidson:saving that for the sequel. Yeah, the pedo
Jonathan Correia:Slayer was not there, but it's really cool, and they do how it ends opens up on either a whole new world that they can explore with the anime, or something with Badlands, all I know is like there's definitely like, they've left enough bread clubs to be like, fuck. Now I need, like, five more of these, please.
James Jay Edwards:I think, I think every Predator movie is going to open up five more worlds.
Jonathan Correia:Oh god. I mean, they always did. Remember, famously, predator two teased AVP and these, the all these worlds and stories like that. And that's one of the reasons why I love predator two so much, is the is the world building that happened with it? Because the first one was very much so like, this is an isolated incident predators like baby,
James Jay Edwards:cool, all right. Well, let's call this one an episode. So again, hope you like these. You know, catch up episodes with us, because that's what you got. I'm not even going to promise two weeks anymore. I'm just going to say we'll see you when we see
Jacob Davidson:it'll happen when it happens. That's just
James Jay Edwards:but, yeah, let's, let's get on out of here. Our theme song is by Restless Spirits, so go give them a listen. And our artwork is by Chris Fisher, so go give him a like. It's been so long since I did that, I almost forgot how it went. You can find us on any of the socials under Eye On Horror, or@ihorror.com which is the site we all call home. And yeah, you guys have some homework with all these shudder movies that that that we've you know that we've recommended I, because I'm just assuming everyone who listens to us, like us pays for shudder. So good call. Keep shudder going. Also, if you're listening to this on day one, go to our socials, and you can if there's still any left you. Might get to go to a preview of M3gan 2.0 it is tomorrow night, if you listen to this on the first day. And if you want to see what I look like in real life, I'm going to be there. So check that out. And hey, if you miss me or Jacob during this downtime, I am still putting the cryptozoo out consistently, and Jacob is still doing the hallow rewind consistently. So yeah, if you miss podcasts and we're not consistent enough here at ion horror, go check those out. And you know, we'll see you when our inconsistent selves See ya. And until then, I'm James Jay Edwards,
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