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Talking Titans Minisode: PEAK Drama
Correia, Waylon, and Lindsey dish about episodes 3 & 4 of the Boulet Brothers Dragula Titans Season Two!! Who's bringing the looks, who is heading to the chopping block, and who is getting shady in the boudoir? Listen in to the latest episode of the Talking Titans miniseries.
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MiniSode welcome again. Everybody to episode three of Eye On Horror, Talking Titans, our minisode series where we recap and talk about the drama that happened on the Boulet Brothers Dragula Titans. Now season two, is there drama on the show? Hold on. Let me introduce you first. I don't
Lindsey:know. I might have missed it, so explain it to me.
Jonathan Correia:I'm your host, Jonathan Correia, and I'm joined, as always, with my roommate, Lindsey Gant. Lindsey, how are you?
Lindsey:And they were roommates, doing fab. Excited to talk about our favorite show once again, with my favorite roommate,
Jonathan Correia:yes, and we are, of course, also joined with our very good friend, Waylon Jordan. Waylon, how are you this week?
Waylon Jordan:I'm great. I'm great taking a little time off work for spooky week and just kind of relaxing, nice.
Jonathan Correia:So we're recording this on 10/28, Episode Four just premiered last night, so let's do the speed run recap. Episode Three of Titans. Season two saw the Gothic wedding, which was a great competition, where the competitors both had to be bride and groom for their goth themed wedding. There was a fright feet of eating a sliced, wretched piece of wedding cake with no hands, which Jaharia won and used to cast a curse of rain on your wedding day on Sigourney Beaver, the winner of the challenge was Jay Kay. The bottom two were Disasterina and Jade Jolie, with Zav getting saved at the last second, eliminated was Jade Jolie. Our two guest hosts for the week was Chelsea Rebecca and James Janisse, the two most hetero white people I've ever seen on TV. We were also introduced to the new aspect of the season, which is the Hellbound Showdown, which pitted previously eliminated competitors, Loris versus Frankie Doom and Loris won. We now go to episode four, the return of the Nosferatu Beach Party, the greatest name of a competition ever on episode four, the Fright Feat was to eat a bulb of garlic and wash it down with a glass of pigs. But a season four favorite, the winner was Jay Kay who absolutely killed it on consuming all of that nasty, they had the power to save themselves or someone else from elimination, and also assigning the teams, which I thought they did very fairly, they ultimately saved themselves and the winner of the Return of the Nosferatu Beach Party. Look was Blackberri. Thank God the bottom four was Abhora, Dollya Black, Jaharia & La Zavaleta, they had their extermination challenge was to eat a vampiric picnic of blood, raw blah, and innards. We'll get into how that went in just a little bit. But also we don't know who was exterminated, because there was a couple of distractions with that elimination challenge. So we'll find out next week. The hellbound showbound winner between Jade Jolie and, of course, Loris was Jade Jolie thankfully. So that's the quick recap, that's the beats, that's the big things. Let's get into the drama. I know a shit ton happened in episode four, but I need to talk about episode three.
Lindsey:First. I gotta say the way that you just described that was very sports oriented. And I don't watch a lot of sports, but this is my favorite sports show for sure.
Jonathan Correia:Dodgers, who? we need to discuss, episode three. So with the Gothic wedding looks, I feel like a lot of them don't, didn't know what goth is, which I gotta say that bottom three was the most stressed out I have ever been watching a reality TV show ever, because you had two of my favorites, Laza Valetta and disasterina and Jay Joe Lee, who I really, really like, but I was screaming at the TV, why are the why is the fate of my favorites in the hands of these two guest judges? Because, boy, howdy. Were they white hetero, and I can say that.
Waylon Jordan:And they were like, they were it all came across very white bread. I was like, this was what y'all pulled from, like, possible podcasters. Hello, we're out here. You can just call me up and I will gladly fly out and take part in this. But I get it
Jonathan Correia:that they are those two are big in the horror podcast community, so I understand, and I don't listen to podcasts, so I but I understand they have a big following. I see them at a lot of things. They're really nice folks, but they were very Wonder Bread.
Waylon Jordan:I think you were making a point as far as not understanding what, what the Boulets meant by goth, I think that they were really kind of missing that a lot of them, and the ones who did nail it, really nailed it, but the ones who missed it, they missed it by a mile, like there was a lot going on there. I mean, I love Disaterina's look and everything. And it was a lot of fun. But nothing about it really gave goth to me. You know, that kind of thing,
Jonathan Correia:the bride look, I thought did. But it also gave more death metal. It was, it was really the groom, where it was like, you needed more. They showed a lot of skin, which I really appreciate. Always appreciate showing more skin. But I think the groom is what really killed it, because, like, having that DOM aspect is really good, but, like, some more leather pieces probably would have helped out, you know, something like that. But the performance was still great. I loved it when she started fucking the box with her giant spike of a strap on.
Lindsey:My favorite was when Disasterina was in the box at the very beginning and she kind of just like Gremlin crawled really quickly, like they sped it up, or just like walked really fast in that box. Say that a few times, it was just a great, great intro to the bride, but
Jonathan Correia:there was a few folks like, I'm thinking Dalia Black. I loved that look. I thought it was, I thought, I know we are all annoyed with Dahlia Black. She's annoying, but you gotta admit, it was a great look, but the challenge was goth wedding. And she went, Oh, so you want Dracula? You want Vampire Masquerade. And it looked good, but it didn't, you know it was again. It was a lot of good effort. The Crown especially was just like, how is that goth? Come on. It was very like, I'm sorry, is this Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula. That's what you interpreted the challenge was, because if that was she would have won. But that's not what the challenge was.
Lindsey:I think the one that I stands out to me as maybe being the most goth. Maybe all will disagree with me, was Abhora's look. And maybe it was because the critique might be it was a bit on the hot topic, end of Goth. But you know what? I'm from that generation of Goth in which it was all hot topic, very that kind of Tim Burtony look. And I really liked the esthetic. I love the bride, I love I love the skirt, and I love the I love the grooms look. I think it all pieced together quite nicely. I did, think it did really well for being both the male and female version.
Waylon Jordan:Yeah, the Jack Skellington of it all with the the the groom really worked for me and again, so surprised by a Bora through this entire season. I'm not going to stop talking about how much she has shocked me by growing up since the last time that we saw her on the show. But she really, I mean, she's keeping her head down, and she's, I mean, she's really working hard to hit these looks and hit these themes this time.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, and listen, I don't think it being more Hot Topic goth is, is a demotor. I definitely brought that up. I was like, this is very Tim Burtony. It's very mall goth. But, like, that's still goth. There's different shades of it. You know, it's kind of like how Jay Kay's leaned more into, like, Emo goth and it but it worked. It was cohesive. It was really I loved her bride. I thought the groom was a big swing. And it worked just with the with the absolute femme face, the extreme reds of it, but as a story between the two, it worked really well. So I was, I was very impressed with Jay Kay, and I think she absolutely deserved that win. We definitely saw in the cauldron. Everyone quote, dog pile on Dollya. But is it dog piling if she pissed off everybody, like, you
Waylon Jordan:can't walk around and insult everyone in the room repeatedly and like, run back behind the scenes and do all the things that you're doing and not expect everybody to come back at you if you keep doing it, and that she's playing a game where she she's not prepared. She is not prepared for the game that she's trying to play right now. Yeah, and I
Jonathan Correia:don't even know if it's like, if it's subconscious, or if she's doing it purposely, or like, you know what? I mean, she's very good at playing the victim, and I thought it was the most annoying, but also most brilliant thing. Her going, I'm not even gonna watch who goes down, and she's just, like, glaring forward while everyone's heads is turned. And like, you see Jade, who looked fantastic going up the steps, of course, as everyone noted, she looked great fall down. And it just cuts to Dollya Dollya is just still staring face unchanged.
Waylon Jordan:Well, you know, and, and the term pathological liar gets thrown around a lot, and I'm not saying that. I'm diagnosing her, but Jesus Christ, if you I mean everything that opens up your mouth. Every time you open up your mouth, a lie falls out. I have to start wondering. You know how much of it you're in control of, and if you're completely out of control the way that it's coming across, then maybe you don't need to be in a competition like this.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, not to skip over episode three, because Episode Three was a great episode. Loved a lot of it, but so much happened in episode four. We got to jump right into it, because it went off immediately.
Waylon Jordan:Like they don't even have to start with episode three, where they made the comment about, you know, the the little comment was made between Jay Kay and Zava, yeah, about, I hope he doesn't cheat on you. Blah, blah, blah. The next. Next thing you know, they try to open up a new episode, and the world ended like Zava is hugging trees outside and yelling for someone to call her mom. And I'm just like, holy shit. What happened and how much time is in between these episodes that y'all have time to, like, get all of this in your head. Listen,
Jonathan Correia:they didn't even get to because usually when it opens up, it's like, oh, so and so. Went home. What do you think? Oh, what are your thoughts on this? What are your thoughts? Nah, bitch. They went off. Went right into it. They both went right into it. And at first everyone's like, yeah, what happened? What happened? What happened? And then it just melted down. I think one of the things about this episode is the funniest thing is happening, but it's about the worst thing possible. That whole parking lot scene is heartbreaking. Zavs going through a lot. It's really terrible, but also her hugging the tree and Cynthia running to her, going, come to me. Come to me. Girl, come to me was inherently hilarious. Everything about it was pure chaos.
Lindsey:And my favorite being Cynthia just attaching herself to all all the stuff going down, either trying to help somebody out, or just kind of getting involved or having the best reactions. I'm just loving Cynthia being included in all of the drama in one way or another.
Waylon Jordan:She seemed to, I don't know if this is her way of getting more camera time or what. But anytime something was going wrong, she was trying to run in and play, Miss Congeniality with everybody. It seemed like this time around,
Jonathan Correia:yeah, but she was, but she was genuinely being there for the other girls, like when Jaharia took the critiques too hard and didn't even go to the cauldron, she was right there. I don't I forget who said it? But if someone on her team was like, we're all high class, and Cynthia here looks like Roger from American Dad, and that's all I could see. The rest of the fucking episode was Roger from American Dad with the biggest tits,
Lindsey:like you said, there were some heartbreaking moments this episode, and a lot of like intensity in terms of motions. And you have Jaharia breaking down after her fatigues, and then you have this caricature of Cynthia just looming behind her, these massive lips just glowing in the darkness. I just was feeling so bad for Jaharia, but could not stop cackling every time Cynthia showed up on screen.
Waylon Jordan:And of all the reactions that we saw and all the things that went down this time around. Jon Haria is the one that I felt the most for, because I think she really, really took it to heart, you know, and it's hard not to when you're getting a critique like that, you know, when you're when you're standing up in front of people and they're critiquing you. It's hard not to take it especially personal. But it was nice to see, you know, people coming in and supporting her while she was trying to like process and get through that, even if it was Roger from American Dad, you know. I mean, it was, it was nice to see that she had some support fearing that.
Lindsey:Yeah, I was shocked to see Swanthula show up to give her support to that. And I thought it kind of broke the mold a little bit, in a way. But I was excited to see her there, and I think that it was really nice to have a little bit of that direct response to the critique that she provided so little bit of, yeah, I think, I think that was great,
Jonathan Correia:which I think is needed for us, the audience, because we it's there at the end of the day, they're where they're making a show and a lot, and a big aspect of it is the drama is all, all the competition and all this. But at the end of the day, we got to you got to remember that the Boulets are in every above the line position. They're directing, they're producing, they're writing, they're doing all their hosting, their powerhouses in here, but they're also making something to showcase their friends, performers they like, performers that they love. These are, this is their community. These are their people, and they are close to every single one of these. That's why, when you see someone, you're like, This person is terrible. They're like, I love you. Why aren't you doing better? Like, they really mean it. And so it is good to see the veil kind of be pulled back a little bit and see like, because I'm I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have those type of conversations with them. Conversations with everybody after critiques of like, Hey, listen, this is a show. This is to lift you up so you can come back and be stronger, do better. I so I really appreciated that, especially with Jaharia, because Jaharia is such a strong performer, and she had an off week. That's what it was. It was an off week, and I really hope it doesn't come take her out. All this being said, I am so happy BlackBerri won. Blackberri, I think is one of the strongest competitors out there. I think she's one of the most talented artists, and she just does not get into the drama that much. She doesn't, you know, she does her thing. And I just think the spotlight isn't always on her. So when she won that, that filled my heart with joy, because I love BlackBerri so much, and I just want to see her do so well. You know,
Lindsey:she's one of my favorite to watch in the cauldron, because she sits there enjoying the hell out of all the drama, just fingers crossed, smiling, but, you know, not participating and at. Think, just come down off of one of a like a great performance. So I think it's great seeing the excellent performer, and also somebody who is here for the drama. But also, you know, it's just, it's is here to do the competition and really try to win. You know, speaking
Jonathan Correia:of cauldron, we also saw everyone go after Dollya black, again, understandably so, but this time, everyone was calling her out hard again for going to production. So what does she decide to do? She decides to go off camera with Zav and start to throw production under the bus, saying that they were threatening a wellness check on her, which the producers and the Boulets quickly stepped in and go, Hey, sorry. I know you're not on camera, but you are fucking micced. We can hear everything you're saying. And what are you talking about? Because that's not how wellness checks works. You don't threaten people with that. That's to make sure that insurance is good. You're fucking with productions insurance at that point, dude, like, that's pretty serious. So what'd you guys think of that moment, because for me, as someone who works, in reality, I was sitting there with my jaw on the fucking ground. I wish I
Waylon Jordan:could have seen their faces personally. I wish I could have seen the producer's face. I forget who it was, or the person on the crew, whoever it was, who was like, that's not what I said. I just like, just straight up to her face, and you are lying. That's not what was said. I asked you if you needed a wellness check, and then you somehow turned that into we're threatening you with. I wish I could have seen the look on the face,
Jonathan Correia:yeah. Well, especially since she's like, No, you said multiple times you're not in a good health space. She's like, because I'm not. And she's like, right? That's why we said, Do you need a wellness check? Do we need to bring in? Do we need to this is a serious thing. You kept saying no, but you kept saying, I'm having a mental crisis moment, which I equate to on like a athletic competition show that's like, Phil, if someone gets injured, you have to go through insurance and stuff. If someone on a very mentally taxing show is saying I'm having, I'm having a mental crisis. You gotta follow up on that. You gotta do the insurance stuff
Lindsey:along those lines. I also really like how we're seeing more from different producers in the show, either like a little bit more in the conversations had with folks in the green room, or whatever, those, those one on one conversations they have with them. Or that moment with Dollya when you have a producer actually speaking up. Or when Zav ran out, there was a producer that ran out to go, like, help them out, too. And so seeing a bit more of, like, the behind the scenes, like I, I like that side of having, I don't know if it's the ballet is like releasing the reigns a little bit or showing a little bit more behind the scenes, but I'm kind of enjoying that process, and I'm kind of along those lines as well. It seems like Boulets are a little bit having a bit more fun. I think this season kind of opening it up like I'm loving these opening bits. They're doing free every episode where they kind of do a recap and they're talking a little bit about what's been going on. They also talk about the drama that was in the last episode and have their uncle take on that. I think they've never really done that kind of stuff before, and so I'm really enjoying all of that, if not intended to make it the drama more impactful or whatnot,
Jonathan Correia:absolutely, because they usually reserve a lot of this behind the scenes stuff for their podcast when they do their recap episodes, and as the episodes come out, they do an episode about it, things that nature. I lied earlier. I do listen to the Boulets podcast. That's the like that in Star Trek is always. Do listen to podcasts. I listen to two. I listened up, I listened to Boulet and Star Trek Khan that's
Waylon Jordan:it. I did love when you're talking about seeing behind the scenes stuff. I was reminded about towards Zava In the middle of everything, and she's like, shouting at them to stop filming, and Cynthia being like, Honey, it's a TV show. They're not going to stop. You know, it's just like, it's just like, that quick little reality check kind of thing,
Jonathan Correia:and that's the thing too. Like this, this kind of showing more production, Dollya involved production. It's been a part of the narrative. They even had, they even addressed it in the beginning of the episode, during the talk, when they're like, Oh, do we care about Sigourney's fans? No, we want to see all these people back in the grave. It's like they're having they're playing with it. But I mean, this episode, especially, there were three instances where that veil was or No, four, if you're Yeah, Zav breaking down. There was Jaharia. There was the Dollya. Call is being threatened by production. And then at the very end, during the fright feet, Aborha goes fucking nuts and starts eating the stuff, and then
Lindsey:apparently goes to the ER. I wonder if that got put on a little bit on the extent of what happened there. But I thought it was just so funny. Like, oh my god, one more time of having this, like behind the scenes conversation about what happened with Aborha,
Waylon Jordan:one of the last things we heard was like, No, you really probably are going to need that to vomit that up right now and then hear her gagging. I was like, Jesus Christ, here. Ago, like perfect and after such a messy episode, someone just vomiting. It was just, like a perfect way of just bringing it all together
Jonathan Correia:before we get into the hellbound showdown the elimination challenge. Who do you think is not coming back based off of, like, this week's performance and the elimination challenge. And also, let's, let's be honest, the drama, because Dollya is down there too.
Lindsey:I just think there's a point in which the production is opposed to Dollya. Everybody in the boudoir is opposed to Dollya. You can't go a single episode without somebody losing their shit over her. And I think there's a point in which, like, she's also not bringing the looks necessarily to what she could have done in the past. She her performances just aren't up to par. And so I think it just all of that stuff together, if you bring her back one more time, like, Why? Why are you doing this? You know, at that point, it's we do. We not have anybody else to direct this drama to. Is it about the drama? Is that where we're keeping her in? I just think if you're down to the bottom that many times, and you're creating this kind of turmoil behind the scenes, then it's just better for you to go and see I just hope that this kind of stuff isn't impeding other competitors from being able to do the best they can in the scenario I I'm here to watch dragula Titans. I'm here to see the best that they can do, the best they can be. And if there's somebody that's causing that to not be the best they can be in one way or another, I'd rather them be gone. I don't want them to be there anymore, even if it is relatively funny to watch that every episode. But I just want somebody like La Zavaleta, for example, I don't know if I don't really know what all is going on with her, I feel a bit let down and disappointed by what's been going on, enough that it is impeding what we know she's able to do. Like i She's been number my number one from the start, and I hope that she can kind of figure it out and get back out there and become that person with the skill I know that she can be but if there's this drama or back end stuff that's impacting the quality of work that we're seeing, I just don't want that to be there anymore. I'd rather them leave and see what else can be done after the fact
Waylon Jordan:I'm right there with you. I think at this point we've we've had enough Dollya it and enough of Dollya's antics. But also, I mean, her look was literally falling apart while she was trying to perform out there. The sides were popping on them. Things were coming off. It was falling apart. I really, if we're going just by performance alone in this, then she is on the bottom. I mean, she was out of all of them, to me the worst. I mean, when you when you're out there. I mean, Jaharia, it may not have been her best look, or anything like that, but the look held together. The look was there she would, you know, she might have had more of a 90 than a than a bathing suit, but it didn't fall apart while she was trying to dance around and do her thing out there. So, yeah, I'm, I really think it's time for exit, stage right for Dollya, and I think that's going by the performance as well as what's going on behind the scenes.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, behind the scenes, definitely. I mean, it's hard to say anyone but Dolly, when it comes to the performances, genuinely, I have a hard time between these four seeing who's better that, like every all four of these had enough not going on or going wrong or not being done well, that I'm genuinely like and that's hard to say, because Jaharia and La Zavaleta are two of my favorites, and so I want them to keep going. I think if you were to say overall in the competition of these four, who do I think deserves to have that second chance after a rough night, I'd say jonreia. But overall, let me rephrase that, Jaharia and Aborha. I know, I know very different from episode one talk, but I think those two had rough nights, and I think that they should continue on. But the performances, the behind the scenes, the looks, I don't want to I don't want to see Zav go home, but Zav and Dollya really did earn their spots today, so I wouldn't be surprised if any of these four go home. I just hope it's not Jaharia and then Aborha and then Zav, and Dollya im ok if we're ranking, if we're ranking,
Lindsey:I really loved Zavs. Nosferatu Beach Party. Look just full nude Gremlin style, full pussy
Waylon Jordan:out like bedazzled pussy. Is that? What we heard bedazzled
Lindsey:pussy? It was beautiful. I had such good fun with it. I think that's kind of the the risk that people need to be taking on the show again that we haven't seen in a while. And so I was happy to see that happen on the stage.
Jonathan Correia:Right? So well, I guess we'll see next week on who's coming back Hellbound Showdown, now that we have a grasp of what this is, and we saw the showdown between Loris and Jade Jolie this week. I feel like it's a fun concept, but to be honest, a lot of the people that are eliminated early in the competition. Weren't going to have strong looks later anyways. So it kind of like, especially last night, it kind of felt like, Okay, I hope Jade wins.
Waylon Jordan:Loris, Doby, the health house elf slash vampire. I'm not sure what they were trying to pull off there. It just wasn't working for me,
Jonathan Correia:I did not make the Dobby connection. I thought Loris looked like a an action figure version of one of the background characters from The Witches. You know, the angelica
Lindsey:Houston do that a little, but it was supposed to be vampire. I was
Jonathan Correia:about to say, neither of those things are Nosferatu. But then on the other side,
Lindsey:Jade Jolie didn't even have teeth. I
Jonathan Correia:was about to say Jay was was serving cunt all over, and she had bats all over, and it was great. Didn't even have fucking fangs. Didn't even have painted on fangs like Dolly had, at least dolly like made it a part of her lipstick. But there was nothing with Jay. Dahlia. Who did I say? Dolly? That's another competitor. Apologies, apologies. Dollya, but Jay, again, she looked fantastic. It was country as fuck. I love all the bad stuff, but like, Bitch, you got to at least have fangs if it's news, if it's a vampire fucking challenge, come on.
Lindsey:So I am loving the Hellbound Showdown. I think it's a great change from what they've done the past. And it's going to be difficult right now, because we are knocking off some of the lower quality competitors, but then once we start getting to later on in the season, you're going to have some really strong competitors, once again, competing with each other, having a second chance. I think it's been really exciting to see what's going to happen towards the end of the season.
Jonathan Correia:My only critique with it is it is taking away from time where the performances and the looks could be shown off. Is how it's kind of feeling right now. But again, as as the competition progresses and there's less people to have to feature, I feel like it'll it'll balance out a bit better.
Waylon Jordan:Yeah, because there were, there's some fantastic looks in this Nosferatu Beach Party. I mean, really fantastic looks. But we did only get little glimpses of them here and there. We didn't get, like, a lot of time on the detail and stuff.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah. All right, guys, well, that was a lot to cover in such a short amount of time, but thank you both so much for coming out and watching and talking Titans with me. The drama definitely hit a peak, and we'll see if it continues to stay there, or maybe things will calm down. We'll find out who is eliminated on Monday, and we'll talk again the week after about it again. Our artwork is by Chris Fisher, so go check him out. The music for the podcast is, as always, restless spirit. You can find us at ihoror.com the place where we call home. And if you want to follow more about the three of us, Waylon, where can we find you?
Waylon Jordan:You can find me on Instagram at Waylon.Jordan. You can also find me as Waylon Jordan over on Facebook and look me up on my author pages, W Dale Jordan on Facebook, and also WDaleJordanauthor.com, if you'd like to know more about the stuff that I'm writing. Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:and don't forget to purchase waylon's new book. What's the title? Again? Waylon,
Waylon Jordan:These Sins of Mine a collection,
Jonathan Correia:yes, collection of short stories. I think you get told me about one of the stories. What was it? It? Was it a ghost penis?
Waylon Jordan:Well, it's about a penis that gets possessed. I mean, it all comes down to, you know, having sex with somebody and they die in the middle of it. I mean, you know what else is going to happen?
Jonathan Correia:My apologies for mistaking a possessed penis with a ghost penis. That's that's for volume two. Volume Two, it'll be someone haunted by the ghost of a penis. Yeah, it'll be the entity. But as a, as an erotic thriller, instead, there you go. I'll co write that one with you, bud. And of course, if you want to know more about Eye on Horror, you can always find us on the social medias @eyeonhorror, and we'll be back in two weeks. We'll be reviewing episodes five and six. Until then, I'm Jonathan Correia,
Lindsey:I'm Lindsey
Waylon Jordan:and I'm Waylon.
Jonathan Correia:Keep your eye on talking Titans,
Lindsey:we're going to keep our eye on talking, talking Titans. Going to keep our eye on talking The End.
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