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How do they always start the pitches in Shark Tank? It's like, afternoon, sharks. Today I have a business proposal for you. I think that instead of Netflix creating like spin-off TV series and sequels and whatever they're doing for Hot American Summer, I think Mark Cuban, Mr. Wonderful, I see that you're entangling yourself in cinema these days, Marty Supreme, I see you.

Mr. Wonderful, think you should give me however much money they used to make this movie in 2001. Adjust for inflation, that's all I ask. And I'm gonna make a spin-off, a sequel, what have you, a cold, dry Canadian winter. And it's gonna be like ski resort camp or something. We're gonna do camp again, but it's gonna be winter. Yeah, it's gonna be, yeah, very, you know, and we'll do a lot of Canadian stereotypes. Is it still the last day of?

winter We're gonna do, yeah. Yep, we'll do the exact same Same plot, okay. You know, whatever, but just get me and my friends up to Saskatchewan. We're gonna film on location. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And I guarantee that it will be something. Okay, who would you cast in this production? I don't know. Well, we have to, much like this movie, we have to find the next generation of SNL talent. we have to really lock in with a good Was anyone on here?

Was anyone in this movie on us and now besides, I mean, Molly, obviously, and Amy. Who else? I don't know, that might be it. don't really, I don't know too much about, you know what I mean though. Sure, sure, sure, yeah. Like sketch comedians. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of these men, I'm like, I don't know who that is. And- Can tell you. This movie came out in 2001. I was narrowly alive from, and- Just barely. I just watched this movie for the first time. Yeah, Wet Hot American Summer. For our camp theme.

for the podcast that you're listening to right now, which is The Swamp, which it is an acronym. Says it's from Black Ass Movie Podcasting. And we're coming at you from the last day of camp. It's feeling We're on the lake. It's the end of August. Of course. We're wrapping up the summer. And... Starting to get a little cool. The leaves are...

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just starting to look like they might have a little life going. I wore socks today. Mm-hmm, I'm in jeans. Wow, crazy. We're also in...

both of our bandanas. Yeah, well, because I watched this movie last night, but like in sort of a state. fugue state. In a fugue state. And then you came over and we watched it again. I feel like the character of Gene really, like really stuck with me in a certain way. you looked at me when he first popped on screen and said, did you know that my husband Hank has been told he looks like this man 600,000 times?

And so obviously- you kind of see it and you're like, wait. You're like, well, yeah, that's your man. And then this man's like prancing around in a little crop top and I'm like- Acting coo coo bananas. So a little heart, heart eyes for Jean. Christopher Maloney is the actor's name and he is on Law and Order SVU. I've never watched that. you? I just watched it on TikTok. And basically it's people's way of telling Henry that he's like,

a handsome young man who is also bald. Don't get, you're really pulling it off. that guy from Long University. you. Yeah. Like, yeah, you're going to just have a big forehead anyways. So seems like that's the direction that was always going. Yeah. Slap a beard on it. For you. But yeah, so 2001, I had never seen this movie. Neither had I. It's 2025. We're coming at it with a very different.

political lens, I'm trying to be generous. And honestly, there are parts of this movie that really surprised me. And it didn't surprise me that this movie kind of flopped in 2001 because... it makes sense. Well, right after...

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Christopher Maloney humped the fridge. I turned to you and I said, yeah, I can understand why this bombed in the box office in 2001. But then I think it became somewhat of cult classic. But to be honest with you, I had never seen this movie. I was, I think I kind of meshed together in my mind the cultural references of this movie, American Pie.

Yeah, well, it's essentially. Yeah. But like also maybe like National Lampoon Family Vacation. throw that in there. Interesting. Like all of those kind of feel like they occupy a similar space. Well, because I haven't seen any of them. Yeah. So it's like those stupid comedy like summer movies. Sure. Sure. With the big ensemble cast. Yeah. of white people. American Pie definitely fits this category for sure. Like the the flute in the pussy. I'm like I know the band camp. I know one was going to be about band Of course. Of course. But this one is like just

horny cam. Which we do get Amy Poehler playing the lute while marrying a gay Bradley Cooper to his lover. my God, Michael Ian Black. Like that is the thing that surprised me. That was my biggest jump scare in this one, Mr. Bradley Cooper. It was his first movie role ever apparently, which is hilarious because- You can't tell. Once you kind of know that, you were like, you can tell he like really wanted to be there and show up for it. He locked the fuck in.

I think he did gay in a respectful way. Well, this movie did gay in a respectful way, which is why I like the whole 2001 of them all. was like, wait. I'm sorry, the Crate and Barrel Shays lounge gag. You think they're going to get out hit or hate-crimed or something. They're like, we bought you a Crate and Barrel Shays lounge. Hilarious. So the plot of this movie is basically just that there's a summer camp. Everyone's fucking. Everyone's horny. The campers who are literal children. The counselors. The counselors who are supposed to be.

like 16, they're supposed to be, you know, like teens, but they're played by 30 year olds. And it's very much like played up for laughs. These are literal adults. And we're like, I'm 16. Like it was self-aware in that sense. But then there's also a subsect of adults who are supposed to be like 30, who are like the camp director and a fucking Niles from Frasier. I'm sorry. I have to get it off my chest.

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just point blank from the jump. The woman who played the camp director. Janine Garofalo. Was just like distractingly bad. Yeah. I think that there, while there are a lot of things about this movie that I would say were not amazing and lacked luster, but she was my number one. It really killed me because she was in just about every other scene too. And it was just like, even if you had a star there, Janine was.

just stinking it up the whole time. Yeah, it's almost like you wonder if she was sort of supposed to be like the straight man character, it wasn't really working out. I don't know. Like, I feel like you can tell that this movie had a lot of different writers and with this whole ensemble cast, it's sort of like you can tell like different bits and different...

you know, improv, can, you know, I bet they let them like have a little fun with it. Yeah. That sometimes it's working and sometimes it's not. Like it's literally like a scene to scene, bit to bit, like literal dice roll. It's straight up, yeah. will it hit or will it not It's straight up like this movie, when it's good, it's really good. Every scene with Amy Poehler. Of course, of course. fucking funny. I would say 50%, the other 50 % of this movie stinks. Yeah.

Like yeah, big, we're swinging big. Big what, dookie? We're swinging big and we're hitting big sometimes, but we're also, yeah, really missing. Well, can I say something maybe controversial? Sure. Is that I am not charmed by Paul Rudd in the slightest. Yeah. I don't know that I've ever seen a show or a movie in it where he really got the giggles out of me. I think, and we were talking about this while we watched, he sits on a Ryan Reynolds scale. Right, yeah, it's sort of like that circle of guys that you could sort of,

throw a stone and you're like, I'm sure when they're casting, they all get a call. It would be like the Ryan Reynolds, the Paul Rudds, maybe even the Bradley Cooper's. And it's kind of the same age bracket. They win Sexiest Man Alive and you're sort of like, oh. And I'm unsettled. I'm really unsettled by Disney paid People Magazine for that to happen so that they promote Ant-Man. Yeah, of course. Weird. Weird that we're still calling it that and not just like Guy of the Year.

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or something, we should just change the name. They should call it like men's empowerment or something. It would just be better for everyone, honestly. Just be honest about it. Yeah, just your be honest about it, because I don't think, I can, yes, Paul Rudd was a handsome man. He's just a guy now. And in this movie, I find him also pretty distractively, like, unfunny. Yeah, I don't love him either.

I really like Tim Robinson, the comedian from I Think You Should Leave, many would know him from. But My Husband and I, we watch almost all of his stuff. His specials and stuff. But I haven't seen that movie. And honestly, honestly, the only reason we're hesitant to watch it is we're like, I do not fuck with Paul Rudd. And like, I do not believe that they can make that work and that it's gonna not make me uncomfortable. You know what I Well, I think that's the point, but.

Yeah, I've heard really mixed reviews. Friend of the Pod, Matt Bacon said it was dog shit and then friend of the pod, Alyssa said it was amazing. Interesting. And maybe it's where you stand on Tim Robinson's kind of really aggressive and uncomfortable kind of comedic timing. yeah, it's like punishment. Right. But it's almost like I don't think Paul Rudd can like take it. He was 32 in this movie. I feel like he's really young.

He, that's crazy. He looked great. my God, and Elizabeth Banks. my God, Pittsfield legend Elizabeth Banks. Local legend Elizabeth Banks. Shout If you'd to come, if you'd like to fund Cold, Dry Canadian Winter, she really is about- Please, no, for real. She is so cool. She's actually all about like uplifting women in comedy. And I feel like you can sort of see her career trajectory of like that she was given this role as like hot blonde babe girl a lot.

but like, I feel like- I think she ran with it. She ran with it, and I feel like she saw how you could make it work from like a production side, which is probably why she's so into directing and writing a a fantastic job. Because I feel like you always, as a woman, you have to be thinking about that side of it too. Of You can't just trust that the people in charge are gonna do what's best for you. No. Because that's probably not true. you know. You're gonna have to take things into your own hands a little bit. And her, you know, being a smart and capable young woman. Oh, of course.

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really rapping and that's why we got cocaine bear, okay? Yes, exactly. What does she have in the The trials and tribulations that Elizabeth Banks has been. Did she do all of the, did she direct? She directed cocaine bear. Pitch perfect though, was she producing that? I believe so. Okay, okay. I was gonna say, what's she up

What's she got on her I feel like she's always got her fingers in the, you know, in the production side of it too. Um, the scene in this movie where she has barbecue sauce on her face and she's like, Paul, run make out with me. And he's like, no. And she's like, come on, just do it. I feel like that is like a litmus test for like someone you think is hot. Like at what point would it give you the ick and what sauce would it be like covered in red? Like would you still mount up and make out if their face was covered?

in ranch dressing. is tough. feel like creamy sauce is really tough. Even barbecue is also tough. And it's like within that Venn diagram that you have to find the middle ground that you're comfortable with, with accepting within yourself. Like honey mustard. So what was the question? What's my hard no? what's... No, just it's something to think about, you know? When you're like, that person is hot, but like would I still bang if they were covered in honey mustard? Probably. Honey mustard's not bad. Probably, yeah.

Blue cheese, that's a tough one. You can do that. I didn't think it was too much of a salad dressing. The barbecue sauce was gross The barbecue sauce was gross. I would say like hot sauce and blue cheese. It tastes like a burger. I don't like you anymore. Some of his line deliveries in this were pretty funny, but I agree I'm generally not charmed by him. And I was surprisingly charmed by Bradley Cooper with his gay little Oh my God. He had maybe what, five lines?

It was perfect. And he was just background noise, like a background noise for Amy Poehler half the time. even that he was really good at, I think. He complimented her well. And her hair, I'll tell you what. Her hair was phenomenal. Some of these wigs, insane. the hair, was hilarious. It was set in what, the 80s? 1981. yeah, abominable hair styling, but still some of it.

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I don't know, Amy really looks great. Amy always looks great. The way that was so real that they were like, you want a makeover? And then they just pushed all of her hair to one side of her head. Just flopping all the way to the others. What's the camp director's name? Beth. Beth. So we got this whole subplot with Beth and Niles. And that's what I'm going to call, I don't know his name. His name was Henry. His name was Henry. it gave me exactly nothing. Niles from Frasier lives next door to the camp. Sure. And it's like, I'm an astrophysicist.

She's like, you should come teach the kids. And he's like, I know that's a boundary I have. And she's like, okay. And then she leaves and he's like, damn, I kind want to hit though. So he goes to the camp and he's like, where are the indoor kids? Which I thought was very funny. And he's like, okay, who wants to like do some space projects or whatever. And we got basically these like two parallel storylines of like him and Beth, they're interested in each other and they're like trying to learn more about each other's interests, which is like actually

kind of cute and like a nice thing that they show, know, they're like actually taking the time and that he does it to her as well. You I like in a lot of, again, early 2000s, like it would be like, she needs to get his attention. Yes, it's very like approval seeking. But you know, he is also nervous and wants to learn more about camp directing so that they have more to talk about. Of course. Shouts out to Niles. But then also that he like detects that a piece of spacecraft is

gonna come to earth and that he, know, they need to detect where it is. And that all the kids, like build this machine that's like got, you know, a spam container glued to it. And then they're like, we need to randomly produce numbers between one and 20. you know, it's like ramping up to like, we're all gonna die in 90 minutes, like apocalyptic scenario. And then I also like, like the timing of the movie ramps up because their relationship starts feeling really intense too.

Right, like, baby, you're gonna get tenure at your work if you win the award. It's like, it's, you met him six hours ago. This is hilarious. Random man conjures a gust of wind as the final- No explanation, it's fucking awesome. As act of the talent show. No, this movie is obviously one that was written flat out stoned and in a way that someone was talking to me the other day and said, yeah, horror movies are all just like,

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written like, here's the beginning and here's the end. And like, you just figure out how you're gonna get there in between. That's exactly how this movie felt to me. Like, it's so nonsensical. It was based entirely off of like skits and bits. Oh yeah, of course. it's all like different, yeah, just like gabs hodgepodge. Together and then, know, yeah, how do we get to the end of the day in the funniest possible way? Which, you know, did we achieve somewhere along the way? I'd like, I'd give it like a...

Like a B minus, maybe. But the places that I'm really up on are like the scenes that relied heavily on like visual gags and time scaling. Like when they go into the town and things just ramp up so fast, like zero to 100. They go into the town and it gets kicked off with the funniest joke of the whole movie. I don't even know if it's the funniest joke per se, just line delivery. When the other like adult woman...

overseer of the camp runs up to the van and she's like my husband's coming to town this weekend I need you to get me some lube for my pussy. She was one of my favorites and she was another one that only had maybe five or ten lines. She also I was impressed with. Her delivery on my pussy sent me because yeah everyone at this camp is just getting it on. Yeah if you're 16 and you are

from your parents is exactly yeah. Did you ever go to a horny summer? No, I know you have. Yeah, no, I actually that's a lie. That's a lie. did go to a I went to a I wouldn't say that it was inherently horny but

was definitely horny at band camp. yeah. Not like marching band camp. I went away and stayed at a college or whatever kind of thing. So yeah. I think an important part of the camp experience is being removed from the people you go to high school with. Anything is possible. Yes. You can be anyone at camp. This is vital. Which is so funny because obviously like...

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That's the place where a weird kid should thrive. The gay plotline again, the scaling up of like zero to 100, like McKinley, oh no, we gotta get McKinley laid. We're making this whole plan and he's like this slow, intimate sex scene that feels like it lasts 45 minutes between fucking Mikey and Black and.

Bradley Cooper like in this shed. This role really prepared him for the Leonard Bernstein biopic. Yeah, he's been doing gay for pay. Since the beginning. On a scale like no other. The only other thing that like off the top of my head had me cracking up was the kids genuinely getting thrown out of the van.

my God. Like that was not a rag doll. That was a real child. All of the, yeah, like Paul Rudd wasn't funny, but the bit involving Paul Rudd having to kill, murdering multiple children because he's too busy making out with Elizabeth Banks, like that is funny. Yeah. but Stan, Stan from the Big Bang Theory. Well, of course. Gets introduced and he's like, as someone who watched this twice.

Like the second time around, noticed a lot of smaller funny things. He was throwing sand up in the air to measure the wind, like the first time the character is introduced. Really little things that he's always licking his finger and putting it to. He's always monitoring the wind, which is really funny. But he's the weird, awkward guy at camp. This is like the autistic man on TikTok who thinks he can conjure the wind tornadoes. But he kind of can though. He lowkey can. I'm like, baby, I saw it. Molly Shannon.

Oh my god, so Molly Shannon's character is Gail. She's also like one of the more adults at the camp. So, yeah, she's 32. She's 32. Just divorced newly from wrong. She's like this hysterical woman who immediately starts like oversharing with this group of children, which is honestly not an unrealistic scenario. Were you ever like absurdly young and an adult would start telling you some personal shit and you were like, oh my god.

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Dude, I'm a lesbian. Like, what is going on here? I feel like that happened to me kind of I remember we had the most insane, I think you had her as well, this insane English teacher when we were in seventh grade, I think. And she made us all write letters to her unborn baby. Weird. Do you remember this? Were you part of this? Uh, yeah. Did you have to do that? Yeah. Yeah. Um, teachers are bizarre.

You can really, especially like the American education system is in shambles. No one is checking these bitches. Not when I was there. I'm sure not now. There are a lot of good teachers too. Not saying how teachers are crazy. Some of y'all are really doing like the Lord's work. Yeah, real but.

but I feel like everyone has had an experience where you're like too young of a kid and you're like, why are you telling me the gruesome details of your divorce? Exactly. I'm like, girl, this is not appropriate. But as a kid, you're kind of like, well, what else am I going to do other than sit here and listen, which is what the kids in the art class that she's Exactly. You're really being held hostage. And they're kind of like listening to her and they're trying to hype her up and give her advice. there's this one kid- They're therapizing her. This one kid in particular who's really like, let's do some role play.

tend to be the ex-husband, like, what would you say? And then he gives her a neck massage. And then, like, at the end of the film, it's like they're walking off together and they're like, oh, well, she has her big moment. Sure. ex comes back. Who was that man? He's also, like, a somewhat- Oh, I have no idea. Comedian guy. I felt like I was supposed to recognize him when he came in, but I was like, I don't know who that is. But she, you know, tells him off and everyone claps. But then she's leaving with the child. Oh. Witch.

Like saying it out loud is very wrong, it did make me laugh. did make me laugh. But this movie does, I would say on one of the overall places where it missed for me, like like an aging not well, it's just like the whole if a young man.

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is being pursued by a much older woman, it's played off for laughs where that is assault. Like there was, we see one of the team counselors, like Mackinon, a literal kid. As part of a joke, like she's so horny, she'll make out with anyone. Like she's like a literal child, which, you know, let's hope they got a 32 year old man with the vibes of a 12 year old for that role. Let's hope it doesn't feel like we're living in a reality where we still treat that as.

assault and that it's bad, but we seem to all know when an adult man does it to a young boy. We all know that that is wrong. But when it's an adult woman, it's still like, we still kind of play that off today. And like, that is still something that I'm like, cannot believe we are still doing this. Like I know it was 2001, but the way it didn't even feel that dated. I'm like, ew. No, no, no, not at all. Another part of this movie that did not really sit well with me that I as a viewer,

just decided to overlook, but when you give it some level of critical thought, you're like, damn, in 2001, the whole character of Gene is basically that he's a Vietnam vet with untreated PTSD, maybe a little bit of schizophrenia. He's talking to himself, he's talking to the vegetable camp.

Originally this one did make me laugh more than the other one. Because I choose to live in the reality where everything in this movie is so absurd. Sure. they're doing heroin out in the town and coming back in 10 minutes and it's fine. him talking to the vegetable can, as far as I'm concerned, that also happened. Yeah. whatever. And I guess that's maybe why as a viewer I was like, I'm suspending it because they're all really supportive of him too.

I love that fridge, That's the funny thing is there's not a whole lot of malicious intent in this movie, I really like. Especially with, like we said earlier, the crane barrel gag and everything like that. And especially with everything being so sexual coded that it could turn very bad very fast. since it does all feel pretty positive. Exactly. Jean is very supportive in this camp. Yeah, but...

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that does kind of make you forget, like, oh, the whole thing is a big joke about how the crazy guy who was in the war, isn't it so funny that he says all these weird things to himself. Of course, yeah. Where it's like, you know, painting a picture that is pretty stereotyping in a negative way, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Whereas like, all it would take would be like one or two well-written jokes. I was just about to say, To like, make light of that. being like, I have to be here to get my benefits. Or, you know, something like the system really fucks me up. I'm so glad to have these people. I don't know.

just a little bit too unfunny for it to be like getting away with any of this. Like I wish it sits on the same scale as I think Drop Dead Gorgeous, but I think it's at the very far end of Drop Dead Gorgeous is on the other end. But I feel like Drop Dead Gorgeous to me is like actually satire, whereas this was like kind of something else. It was almost earnest. There was a little bit of it that was earnest. Again, like a sketch to sketch, bit to bit, scene to scene basis. Some of it tonally was more satirical than

other bits of it. I do think that this movie could be improved by Alice and Janie. well, course, all movies. Any and every movie, of course. But yeah, that one, like if we just replaced the camp, the camp director with her. Right. And she falls in love with that. This would have been a seven out of ten than a five out of ten. Right. The camp director, I will say again, in my mind, it's like she was supposed to kind of be the straight man, but that just like didn't really work. But I do appreciate

for 2001 that she was portrayed as being like competent at her job. I appreciate Everyone seemed to respect her a great deal. Like, know, Paul Rudd, even though he's like being a bad boy and knocking stuff over when she's like, hey, pick that up. He like flips her off and stuff, but he still does it. picks it up, I feel like an easier choice for this movie would have been everyone just like shitting on this incompetent woman all the time.

Whereas I was like, yeah, she is. The camp was Jewish also. There were like a couple of jokes about that that didn't really, that were just like very stereotypical that again, like these could have actually been funny. Like about how, you know, it's a Jewish camp, but like, you know, only 10 % of the kids who go here are even Jewish. Like something like that, you know? Yeah. Like there was like, yeah, the gag, like the sprinter, the African sprinter getting the caps of the flag, like everything. was just almost funny. It was almost funny. as well.

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absolutely. I don't think there was a single brown person there. I think that it had the benefit of a couple of really funny women being in that writer's room and on that set. I think a lot of the scenes probably were punched up a lot. Well, you talked a lot about before we watched this about how there was probably a lot of improv that went on that really helped it along. Yeah, right. And I'm sure Amy Poehler giving notes to somebody probably could have made a scene a thousand times better.

than it would have been otherwise. just think that there was a little bit of a lack of diversity in the perspective, maybe like this movie could have been funnier. I don't know, I'm looking now, David Wayne, the director, I mean, this is the only, just about the only thing that I think he's ever done. Yeah, I don't know that man. I didn't really know this movie before today though, so I can't, I don't really know, I don't really know where this movie stands within.

like the culture, like I don't really know how people feel about this movie. If somebody was like, I love this movie, I'd be like, okay. Yeah, I'd like to hear more about why. It feels like one that if I saw it when I was younger, it might've had a bigger impact. Brooke, I'm gonna personally apologize because I see you have this rated five of five stars on Letterboxd. So we're gonna need you to write in.

No, but parts of this movie had me wheezing. Like parts of this movie were really funny. Absolutely. And it does have a rewatchable factor because I felt like I got something out of it on my second viewing for sure. Yeah. I think I just would have appreciated it more if I had seen this like when I was like maybe 12.

and a little more susceptible to easy humor. Well, yeah, yeah. Just talking about sex isn't quite cut it. Yeah, from my old ass brain. But I will say, given that it was like a blockbuster summer movie from 2001 that I had never really thought about before, was kind of surprised by a couple things. I saw Together.

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pretty recently with Dave Franco and Alison Brie. Tell me about that. It was decent. wasn't, I couldn't say I was wowed. I think I gave it like three stars. It was cute. It was definitely, I think, purposefully bad writing at the beginning, but I enjoyed it. I would probably throw it on again as like sort of background noise, but I wasn't wowed in the way that like I'm really hoping weapons does it for me. Yeah, I don't know. I've seen a lot of like Twitter chatter.

about it but I feel like I always seem to sort of miss the boat on these like horror like I didn't see Barbarian, I didn't see Talk to Me. you seen Barbarian at all? No and I feel like I don't know a lot of them I just sort of it ends up sort of just passing me by so I'm gonna go try to go see it but I don't know I usually end up like landing pretty neutrally about these ones. Have you seen Eddington yet? No I haven't seen Eddington yet. I have almost no desire to.

One thing that has been suggested to me by multiple people is K-pop Demon Hunters. Same. Same on the recommend. Lots of people are talking about it. I guess I'll have to get around. It's only 90 minutes and it's on Netflix. Is it a movie? It's a movie. I thought it was a show. No, I also thought it was a show. I was like, don't be recommending a Netflix original show to me. Like, fuck you. Oh, okay. It's a movie. Okay. This makes a difference. Yes. I said the same thing. was like,

sit down for 90 minutes. I'm not sitting down to watch a show, K-Pop Demon Hunters, but I'll give her 90 minutes of my time. Sure, why not? I also, my movie buddy texted me because we were discussing back and forth about what's out right now, Freakier Friday, who's to say. But Honey Don't? It looks really bad. Is that the less talented fucking...

Yes, Colin Bartholomew. Colin Brother. Yes, so this. And he's doing like his lesbian trilogy. His lesbian trilogy with Margaret quality essentially. I. And is she the same character? No, I don't know what's going on here, but it was one of those things. I remember seeing Drive Away Dolls in the theater of like winter of last year or something like that. And I had a really fun time. I really enjoyed it.

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Dara, I sat you down to watch it maybe like two or three months ago. was bad. And I was cringing in my seat. I was really embarrassed. I was like, sorry, I don't know why I put this on. Do you know what I mean? Have you ever had a movie like that where you're like, well, yeah, it's like the YouTube video and you're like suffering. You're like, ha ha, this is funny. Watch it. And then the person watching it does nothing. It gets funny. you're like suffering. Exactly. It gets to point where you're like, should I just take my phone back? Yeah. fuck, fuck. So I'm not.

I can't say I'm expecting a lot out of Honeydome. Alley Plaza, sure, fine. Apparently they'd be fucking. Sure, whatever. I don't know. Margaret Quailey does not give me a passable lesbian vibe, but whatever. I like Charlie Day. I like Charlie Day, but I hate Chris Evans, so. Yeah, and that's really fair. And also I didn't know that Patrick Swayze has a 67 year old son named Don Swayze who looks just fucking like him. Wow.

Yeah, he does look just like him. 67, that's Oh no, that was his brother. Oh my God, I'm so stupid. Okay, okay, okay. I'm like, he has a 67 year old son that doesn't make any like, huh? Oh, Don Swayze, it's his brother. Okay, that makes way more sense, but he's in this, I'm assuming. his brother, okay, yes. Yeah, but other than that, else. Weapons is just the thing that I need to get to. I am really interested in seeing Naked God.

However, I've heard good things about Sorry Baby as well. Where does Sorry Baby? A movie. Here's the letterbox description. What's it give you a genre? I don't even know. Drama? Yeah, it's just something bad happened to Agnes. Life goes on for everyone around her at least. So I don't know. I've heard really good things, though, so we'll see.

This is the first, the directorial debut of Ava Victor. So we'll see. Keep your eyes peeled. I am person. me anything about it. Listen, I have no idea what it Keep your eyes peeled for what? Girl, I have no idea. I'm keeping my eyes peeled for Paul Meskell, who was in Boston over this weekend. Doing what? I don't know. I saw him at the Red Sox game online. But I was out and about. said...

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Where's my boyfriend? With his girlfriend. Is he still dating fucking gritsy Abrams? Yeah. Whatever. Whatever. But I am very excited for the history of sound, which I think comes out in like September or something. With him and Joshua That's one that I feel like is gonna be like, try it to get some Oscar drum and it's just not gonna quite cut it. It's not gonna quite cut it. You're gonna see it on like one variety article.

pre-Oscar prediction list and then it's never gonna get mentioned again. I'm sure. We'll see. Yeah, but should we get into our regularly scheduled programming? Right. Fuck, marry, kill. Who do we want to say are like the three main? I feel like we'll count the teen counselors because they're 30. Yeah, Like Amy Poehler counts. Yeah. Even though she's like supposed can even whittle it down to three. Should we just keep it open to Yeah, I guess so. I feel like I'm gonna marry Jean, obviously. Obviously. I'm gonna...

I'll fuck Niles. Yeah. I'll fuck Niles. Sure. Go crazy on that associate professor. Yeah, that stash was crazy. I don't know, like Elizabeth Banks was really hot in this movie. Like I would bang her, but it just like feels wrong. It feels like the male gaze, you know? I don't care. I'm going to fuck Yeah, going to, yeah, yeah. I'm going to fuck Elizabeth Banks and then going to marry Amy Poehler and then I'm going to kill. I'm going the camp director. I'm going to kill Janine Garofalo. Sorry.

think killing Janina is great idea. I'm gonna pivot and go for, who was the guy with the bowl cut? What was his name? Moose. Yeah, the one that was like pining over. no, no. I don't even know that guy's name. The one that was pining over. Katie. Yeah, Katie. Cooper was named Coop and they called him Yeah, Coop. Yeah, I'm gonna kill Coop. Ew, yeah. Because it was every scene that he was in that I was like, I'm exhausted. that felt 10,000. Like I was like.

They're not keeping the pace. was like so much times the pacing was so good and funny and then it just Stunted to a halt. It was just a hard pivot. Yeah. It to just like unfunny and slow Crazy, we will keep the pacing up in cold, dry Canadian winter. Don't you worry? Yeah But your food and drink I I liked what we did we got sandwiches. Yeah, we got like deli sandwiches

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When I went to Horny Summer Camp, was all indoor kids. Of course. It was it. Yeah. I went to a music camp. What kind of camp did you go to? I went to, was called Project Contemporary Competitiveness Advanced Studies Program, PCCASP, was like the- Oh, so like for like- You had to apply- Advanced kids or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like unquote gifted program. It really was just like out of college, and if your parents could-

pay to send you and you wanted to do academic shit over the summer, like here you go. But also, you know, like kids between the ages of 13 to 15. it's like cesspool of like sweaty, horny birds. Yeah, at its worst. But you got to take classes and actually I was thinking a lot about like the classes that I chose to take. So I did like a

music class, a band class. was very camp rock and we had like a rock show at the end of the summer in front of like a stadium. It was very cool, whatever. And they also had like a theater department that I was not a part of but like sort of was proxy to. So I sort of got to observe some really intense theater camp energy. But I wasn't like directly a part of it. No, no one wants that. But.

I also, took photography and then I took TV production. Oh, that's fun. Which was really cool. We got to go down to the local news station every week and watch them like film the weather and the news and Oh, that's pretty sick. It was cool. And then we got to stay behind and like use their equipment. Oh, nice. you know, like we got to film like news parodies and stuff. was really fun. And then I took a law class where we went on a field trip to a prison. Oh.

That's way less fun. We got to have lunch with the prisoners. No, it was actually kind of fun. OK, cool, cool. But there was a class. So I always think about the other ones I didn't pick. And I wish I picked. They let some kids fly planes. What? There was an aviation class where it was a six week long summer camp. So you take a six week long basically flight training class. at the end of the summer, they let these kids do solo flights. Bro. Crazy. Nathan Fielder's out here.

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He made a He made a point. He point. He made made a He made He made point. a point. He point. He made a point. He made a point. He made point. He point. He He He He

Oh, but the big, we also got to eat at like a college dining hall for all of us. Yes, that's a big Which was very like primo. You feel very cool. Well, you get to pick your own meal every day. It's pretty nice. Yeah, as a 13 year old, you're like, I'm gonna have soda at every meal. Of course, of course. It's But the big one was lunch when it was chicken fritters. And that just means chicken, like little chicken, popcorn chicken. Yeah.

or like more than a nugget, less than a tender, a chicken fritter, chicken fritter day. So I think you could have like popcorn chicken. That's my nostalgic camp meal. And then you make your own Baja blast, which is when they don't have it at the soda machine, but you mix together the blue Powerade and 7-Up. That's excellent. I'm going to say a BLT. That's what I had tonight. A BLT and some lemonade. You really can't go wrong. And then after this movie, what I'm yearning for,

is the absence of, we get this really funny training montage of Gene and Coop, and like after Gene has his big public fridge humping scene, and then Coop kind of gets dumped by Katie, and he's like crying, and then they like do this, he learns how to dance, like they go to a dance studio and they like...

do all these dance routines. Yeah, was very dirty dancing. sitting in a circle, like an AA circle. Yeah. It's just really funny. But then it's sort of like, all this build up to him just wearing a crop top and coming in to the talent show and being like, Katie, here's my shirt in a little box. Hope you have a nice rest of your summer. I'm going really show you. Then he doesn't do a dance or anything, which is fine, because we got that out of the montage.

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But I'm don't really need all that, yeah. And the big finale here was the gust of wind from the Big Bang Theory guy. Yes. Oh my God, how could I forget? Which was really funny, but I am still wanting a big dance routine, so I think you should watch Napoleon Dynamite. Excellent choice. Which is another early 2000s comedy that some of it you're like, how is this aging? But then you're on the whole, yeah, pretty Generally, it's all right. Yeah, very funny. And I would say Napoleon Dynamite is way funnier than Wet Hot American.

That's more like my kind of humor, like, funny, rather than I feel like this is like more, I don't know. Romance-y humor. This movie is very middle of the road for me. And the only other really horny summer camp movie that I can say is also very middle of the road for me is Friday the 13th. I've seen that. It's so fine.

That's it. It defined the genre. Yes, and it is the horny teens at summer camp movie. So I think you go and take a peek at that. But I think it would be a little more satisfying because there are some kids in this movie that I'm like, I wish they got slashed. It is the spawning point. Yes, exactly. Yeah, I can see that. Out of 10, I'm going to give this a four. I'm going to give it a five. Like I said, it's super middle of the road. She's fine. I don't think I'm going to put her on.

again anytime soon. It does seem exactly like the kind of shit that they would turn into like six different Netflix shows. Like beating the dead horse of this IP until these actors are like, please can I get out of this contract? I would be keen to see if the one that's like 10 years later or whatever, because they this pact at the beginning of the movie. They set up the sequel quite well actually. They set up the sequel and they do the sequel and I'd be keen to see if that one makes it onto our sequels that are better.

of the first. Am I ever going to watch it though? Absolutely not. Someone tell us is the sequel Wet Hot American Summer 10 years later? The way though that there was there was actually like a split second of time where they the movie starts and it's still early enough in the film where I'm like maybe this could have happened but like in retrospect I'm like they were really queuing up that it was like this one day this 24 hour like we're gonna go through the time markers so I don't know why I didn't.

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pick up on that when I was having this thought. But when they were like, oh, we're gonna meet back here in 10 years. And I'm like, oh, because they all look 30 and then we're gonna cut. It's gonna be about the crazy horny reunion that they have when they're all actually adults. And I was like, that's why I cast all these 30 year olds is cause it's like, oh, we're just gonna do a comic time then I was like, oh wait, no, that's just how this movie is. But it was self aware enough that I was not that bothered by it.

But thanks for tuning in everyone. Yeah, thanks for listening to The Swamp. Ending up the summer. We will be hitting you with a little bit of more camp next week. But then who's to say what the future holds for us? We're always taking suggestions. This was from friend of the pod Brooke Drew. Brooke, chouts out Brooke Drew and chouts out to all of you who leave comments in any capacity. You can email us. You can do.

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