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So thank you guys"},{"speaker":"Sara Davison","startTime":2503.2,"endTime":2506.71,"body":"for joining and for sharing some"},{"speaker":"Sara Davison","startTime":2506.92,"endTime":2509.77,"body":"personal information that I know"},{"speaker":"Sara Davison","startTime":2506.92,"endTime":2509.77,"body":"you don't normally share. So I"},{"speaker":"Sara Davison","startTime":2509.77,"endTime":2513.52,"body":"really appreciate that. Thank"},{"speaker":"Sara Davison","startTime":2509.77,"endTime":2513.52,"body":"you so much. Thank you, Shara."},{"speaker":"Sara Davison","startTime":2513.52,"endTime":2518.14,"body":"Thank you. Thanks. 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