TheBLAST Podcast

041.3 - Carl Milliman: God’s Grace in Action [PART 3]

March 04, 2019 Season 5 Episode 3
TheBLAST Podcast
041.3 - Carl Milliman: God’s Grace in Action [PART 3]
Chapters
00:00:01
Previously Heard on the TheBLAST Podcast
00:00:43
Interview with Carl Milliman - Part 1
00:12:10
Saved by Third Day
00:13:23
Fake News from The Babylon Bee - Extremist Pastor Attacks Cafe With Super Soaker, Dozens Baptized
00:15:42
Interview with Carl Milliman - Part 2
00:27:59
On the next episode of TheBLAST Podcast
TheBLAST Podcast
041.3 - Carl Milliman: God’s Grace in Action [PART 3]
Mar 04, 2019 Season 5 Episode 3
TheBLAST Podcast / Carl Milliman
Carl Milliman's testimony explains how he was able to recover from the curse of his backsliding and make a full recovery into God's will.
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This is part three of our interview with the pioneer pastor of our church here in Virginia Beach, Carl Milliman. If you haven’t heard the first segment of the interview, make sure you go back and listen to it here. You can also listen to Part Two here.

There is so much wisdom in Carl's testimony as he explains how he was able to recover from the curse of his backsliding. He shares what is important for those who are trying to journey back into the will of God

During the break, we hear a fun little diddy that was originally written by Bob Dylan, then masterfully covered by Third Day, Saved. Then another hilarious FAKE NEWS article from The Babylon Bee that had us weak.

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Adam Dragoon:
0:01
Previously heard on TheBLAST Podcast:
Carl Milliman:
0:04
when I made the decision that I was going to get my prayer life back in order, I was going to start to pray. I was going to get back to some of those basics. God, I want to be healed and I want it to be restored:
Narrator:
0:22
On this episode of TheBLAST Podcast, Pastor Adam Dragoon and Mr. David Smale are blasting across the interwebs digging deeper into the practical application of God's word for our lives. Snowflakes beware: we're blasting off on this edition of TheBLAST Podcast.:
Adam Dragoon:
0:40
What a lot of people that I've dealt with tell me is that when you come back after making horrible decisions and making mistakes and doing things that that ultimately do have great devastating effects and consequences in your life. One of the hardest things to deal with is the guilt and the shame of it and having to face yourself and face others. And I wonder if you could speak directly to that person and there's many levels of this. Maybe it's like you, someone had, has gone all the way back to the world and, and living in, in, in, you know, gross sins or, or maybe it's a, maybe it's a pastor who maybe didn't go that far but had maybe a moral failure somehow. I was back in the church for redirection, having to deal with some difficult things. And I wonder if you could speak to the, the guilt of it, the shame of it and how to overcome, um, that sense of I'm not worthy of, you know, living for God. I'm, I'm damaged goods and God could never use me again.:
Carl Milliman:
1:52
Yeah. So that was, that was a horrible time. Um, I would say more so for, for my wife, um, when, when we came in, it was, it was very, very devastating on her part to, to, to face the failures. You'll face the people. And one of the things that was difficult was, you know, the people of the church, uh, not everybody's going to except you and just jump for joy that your back. And so it hurts when you come back into a church or you come back into your home church and people, they sneer at you, they stick their nose in the air and they somehow think that, you know, they're better than you. But in reality, you know, every, uh, if they, if they're without sin, they can cast the first stone.:
Adam Dragoon:
2:55
Yeah. But I think maybe that's might be a kind of an oversimplification because we see it in the, in the new testament that when, when the apostle Paul, before he's the apostle Paul, he's saw the Christian killer and now it falls upon the church to be the ones to bring him in and embrace him. And they're like, oh yeah. And these are the same Christians that he has been killing their family members and their friends and other churches. And so, you know, they, they were rightly to be afraid of him, but maybe, you know, now he's sitting at the end of the Pew and, uh, he's the one responsible for, for sending my brother to heaven, you know? And so there are some real issues that, that happened there. And so the, the fault is, is on both sides and we can kind of understand that there are consequences too, right?:
Carl Milliman:
3:44
Yes sir. And that's.. We cannot overlook the pain, you know, obviously in my situation for, for us to go to visit the Chandler church, you know, they, they had invested, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars into, you know, the, the pioneering years of, uh, Virginia Beach. And, you know, so show there was, there was a lot of shame when I, when I had to face my face, my brethren and I had to face, you know, my, the music facing, there's the, and the shame of it. And it was, it was very difficult at the time, um, to, to, to say, okay, I, you know, God, uh, you know, and, and going to go into to some of them was very difficult for me. I, I, I had to go to Pastor Campbell and say to him, Pastor Campbell. I'm, you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for what I've done. And you know can you, can you forgive me? Can you, uh, can you accept me? And those were, those were some difficult times, um, for, for me and my wife, um, to face face to face those people and coming into, you know, the 10 church too, there was, uh, you know, where, where you face deal, uh, guilt, you know, of, of backsliding, uh, is a, is something that you, you probably, you know, you're probably probably never going to really, uh, get rid of it all. Um, but it doesn't have to define you. It doesn't have to beat you down and, uh, you know, take you out. I see. I've seen a lot of people, uh, who have attempted to come back and, you know, they, they'll come for a little while and they struggle in and, and you know, and they'll, they'll go back out and then they'll come back in and we'll go back out and come back. Uh, and I've seen a lot of them who never make it back. And if you're listening to this right now and you're, you've backslidden and you've fallen away from the Kingdom of God, I just wanted to say to you out there that you can, you can return, you can be restored, you can be healed, um, and show, don't let the devil, uh, you know, or, or your friends or say say is say, you can never do this because you can, you can be healed you can be restored.:
Adam Dragoon:
7:03
Yeah. Or your friends via the devil.:
Adam Dragoon:
7:10
Maybe Carl, maybe you could tell us about the kinds of things that you're involved in now. Like how are, how is God using you in, in present day to give hope to those people who are trying to recover? What is God allowed you to do in these last years?:
Carl Milliman:
7:29
Yeah. So when I realized I needed to put my life in prayer and submission to my headship, um, my pastor, you know, he, he began to work with me. He began to put hope back into me. That you know, that those failures didn't have to define my life. That that God could still use my life in Tempe very, very powerfully. God could use my life. And so I wanted, I knew that God had put me there in the Tempe church for a couple of really, really main purposes that God put me there and I just had to figure them out. I had to search them out and find out, okay, God, you allowed me to come back into your kingdom. You placed me here and this beautiful church with a great pastor. And, and I wanted to find out what those things that, how God could use my life in, in Tempe. And one of the main things that came first was prayer. And so I began to say, okay, God, how can my life, uh, be, be effective here in and prayer? And so I begin to put out a, like, develop this prayer ministry that I thought that this prayer ministry was, Eh, and I've been inspired, uh, tremendously from that point, uh, to, to pray specifically for, uh, our pioneer pastors and our evangelists in the fellowship. And I begin to touch base with them and get their phone numbers. And get their prayer request. And when they, when our evangelists, Bob Burris and, uh, Rick buckles and, um, men, men who were evangelists for some time in the Tempe Church, I begin to find out where their meetings we're going to be at and when their meetings were going to, when they were going to have those meetings. And I begin to seek God and prayer and fasting and asking them questions about what were they, what would they like me to pray about? Not just, not just ministry things, but personal things, things that were they were seeking in their own lives and where, you know, I could develop a relationship with these guys, not just in ministry, but they, they knew that I was concerned about them specifically. And so this really helped me and to, to develop, uh, you know, to be used of God again and, and then to, to see some results. And we started right away seeing results in this. And so it really inspired me. And that was one of the things that started. And then God challenged me to, to, uh, to be, uh, more, more liberal, to be affective with my money and to get, you know, get my, did, get my family in order to get my finances in order so that I can be effective in the Kingdom of God with, with my, my testimony, with my finances and with my prayer. And so I'm reaching out to, uh, uh, some of the pioneers and some of the, uh, investing in world evangelism. So we, we, we get to, we did to give, we get to, I look at it is where I get to give to the Tempe Church for its ministries in conferences, but also into Chandler and, uh, to, to invest in the Chandler conferences and then best in the press, get conferences where, you know, God, God would challenge me to, to give and, and, uh, to grow in my giving in, to be able to, uh, give to where it gets to, where it hurts, give to work counts. And she, she God's favor and she, God's help in giving:
Adam Dragoon:
13:31
From the Babylon bee Extremist Pastor Attacks Cafe With Super Soaker, Dozens Baptized ORANGE, CA—Patrons at Winthrop’s Cafe in Orange found themselves victims of a random attack on Tuesday that will change their lives forever. The cafe-goers were enjoying their soups and salads when 35-year-old senior pastor of Everlife Community Church, Marty Muggins barged onto the premises armed with a Super Soaker and opened fire on the crowded cafe. “I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Spirit!!!" he was reported to have shouted along with other incoherent religious exclamations as he totally immersed his victims. By the time police arrived on the scene, Muggins had performed coercive baptism on all forty-seven of the patrons including elderly cafe owner Alton Winthrop. Forty-one lives were saved and involuntarily welcomed into the Kingdom of God after coming face-to-face with Muggins’ water-filled weapon. Six, who had been previously baptized, were recommitted. Officers attempted to apprehend the suspect, but he opened fire on the authorities, baptizing multiple officers. “A lot of good cops got themselves baptized today,” said OPD Chief Bill Corwin. “We don’t take that lightly.” “This is the kind of thing that changes your life forever,” said cafe patron Sally Rivers. “I’ll always look back on this day as the moment some lunatic with a squirt gun barged into my life and snatched my old life away, baptizing me into the Kingdom of Heaven forever.” The water gunman remains at large. Authorities are asking the public to be on the lookout for the rogue pastor but are warned he is armed and Baptist.:
Narrator:
15:25
Welcome back to TheBLAST Podcast. And yes, we're from that church.:
Carl Milliman:
15:40
So I begin to invest day. I had, I hadn't really had a burden for Thailand because I visited there during my years of my divorce and stuff. I visited Thailand. And so I, I really had a burden for Thailand. And so I really wanted to, um, I really wanted to, uh, give to that ministry. And they started, um, there was, uh, there was, uh, uh, pioneer rallying and Chandler, uh, pastor Mitchell, Greg Mitchell had preached and really, uh, he had called out to some of the men that, you know, if they had a vision for a nation and they, you know, some of us guys raise our hands. And I raised my hand because I had this vision for Thailand. And, um, so he's preaching a little bit longer. And then he says again, he says he's pointing out to some of the men and he says, what nation is that one nation?:
Carl Milliman:
16:45
and he points to me? He says, you know, what nation, do you have a burden for and I said, Well, Thailand, and so, you know, that was a very critical meeting because shortly after that, little did I know that a Pastor Aulson was preparing to send a Bob and Allison hall into Thailand to pioneer a church was, it was after that point. I did. I did not know that at the time. And so now, uh, the Thailand church goes, uh, and I have the opportunity to invest. And so a challenge through that and losing my job and keeping my pledge and giving to that ministry a really enlarged my giving, enlarged my faith in giving. So I was able to invest in those churches in the Phillipine islands as they were established with Bob and Allison Hall and Eddie and Siccora Kidwell. Um, to the point where I was, I was preparing to take a team over there and outreach team actually, but before they came back in and still, but at that time, Pastor Aulson asked me to go get the Philippine islands with him on a team to the Philippine islands. So, um, I, I've been able to do a lot of, uh, a street evangelism impact teams. Uh, and I was able to street preaching and in the Philippine islands was a hallmark in my life that my pastor, you know, investing in me, investing in, you know, he, he's, uh, invested in my life tremendously in restoring my life. Um, and then I was able to go to Brazil to, uh, preach over there and the street preach over there and how reach over there. And with, uh, Artie Moran and his, his crew over there. And now, um, with this burden, I've went to my pastor and I, you know, because I got called out and several, uh, revival meetings with evangelists that had no idea what was going on in me, which has specific direction on this prayer, a ministry and this impact, uh, evangelistic ministry that came from evangelists that didn't even know me, called us, called me and my wife out. And, and very specific details during this time that God knows. And so working with my pastor now, he's allowing me to lead a impact teams and do healing Crusades, um, and street meetings. And, uh, so I'm really excited about the next chapter of where it's going to go and what we're going to do and developing an international, uh, impact team ministry that I'm not just a, we're going to do some or going to do some here in the states and then we're going to do one. We want to do one a year, international impact team and maybe combine some of the churches that would like to join in and, and some of the older, uh, mother churches that have pioneer churches, international pioneer churches to link together and work to have impact teams that would international impact teams. So that's my heart. That's my vision and I appreciate, uh, Adam and Taya here and in Virginia Beach and carrying on the vision here and the precious church here means a lot to me. Uh, I mean, what a great joy in my life to be here right now. Uh, thank you.:
Adam Dragoon:
21:21
Yeah. things have changed since you last saw it.:
Carl Milliman:
21:24
Yeah. A little bit now.:
Adam Dragoon:
21:29
There's this thing called town center now.:
Carl Milliman:
21:32
Yeah, it's growing a lot. Um, definitely. Um, I really feel like there's an openness with people even out today. We were, we were witnessing to a Filipino lady at Ben and Jerry's down here and she's, she's so excited about going to church when you guys, and a couple of guys at the hotel, just everywhere we go, people are open. People were, uh, you know, they're going to, you're going to see some Truett.:
Adam Dragoon:
22:16
Awesome.:
Adam Dragoon:
22:17
Well thank you for this incredible story that you've told us tonight. I think illustrates the fact that sometimes, uh, the restored classic is better than the brand new. And, you know, I, I have seen people, like you described earlier, Carl, that, that, uh, you know, come back into church wherein a chip on their shoulder and sit in like a bump on a log and sucking the life out of every situation. And, and I'm so, I'm just so grateful that, that, you know, that is not the story of your life. That you have a heart to continue to serve God and to be a blessing to the church and to the people of God. And so, you know, you take away a lot of excuses from people because you've been through some terrible things, like, you know, the story of not quite the story of job, but getting, getting close, you know, and there's the, there've been people who've gone through far less than what you've been through and live the rest of their life with an attitude, you know? Right. And so I'm so grateful that that we can find examples like you that we can point to and say, look, look at what God has done and, uh, and what's possible. And so thank you so much for being an example and for continuing to serve the Lord and to have a right heart and for coming to visit us here in Virginia Beach. It's been a great blessing.:
Adam Dragoon:
23:47
And what a, what a, what a privilege to, uh, one, uh, a divorcee aircraft mechanic to another.:
Carl Milliman:
23:57
Yeah. Well, I just want to put in one more point that, you know, I have a very, uh, I have a precious daughter that was born six months before we came to Virginia Beach, would have been in April of 89. Uh, Charlene and she, uh, she, she's in the Tempe Church, married. She married a one on the disciples in the Tempe Church. She has three beautiful children and they've been, they've been out to pioneer, uh, in Boise, Idaho. They're back in right now for redirection. But, you know, they're, they're, uh, powering on for Jesus and serving Jesus Christ. And, you know, I have, I have, uh, precious children that are getting closer there. You know, coming there in God's hands and, you know, we, we would, we trust that God is working in their hearts and drawing them and we just, uh, you know, pray, pray for, pray for my children. Please anyone hearing this, pray for my children. Pray I pray for your prodigals you pray for mine because of God. God is a Restorer. Can, can, if he can bring me back from that mess, uh, he can, he can restore and I'm just so thankful to for the Tempe Church, for the heart of this fellowship and that they have a heart to restore lives that yes, they can invest in the product calls, uh, because there's a lot of 'em out there. And I would say if you're listening to this podcast and you're a prodigal, come home, come home to Jesus, come home. We love you. We care about you and trust God. You can, you can, you can be healed. You can be restored.:
Adam Dragoon:
26:03
Awesome.:
Adam Dragoon:
26:03
I really feel the spirit of God as, as you are seeing those words. And, uh, it, it again just reminds me that nobody is too far gone. As long as there's breath in our lungs and blood running through our veins, it's not too late that God's still has mercy and grace to extend even to the hardest of hearts. And so that's a lesson for those who are in the midst of it. And that's also a lesson for those of us who have loved ones that are in that place is never give up on those people because a, God still loves them far more than you ever could and, uh, keep, keep working and keep trying and keep reaching out like you were saying earlier. Yeah, we better close off in prayer tonight. You got a plane leaving early in the morning, but once again, we just want to show our gratitude for, for joining us on this, uh, on this episode of the blast podcast. Um, Carl, I wonder if you could just to close us out in, in a word of prayer and pray for those who are listening and uh, and ask God's blessing over it.:
Carl Milliman:
27:03
All right. Father, we thank you for your love, your grace, God, your word that brings healing. It brings it alive. Lord, restoring and healing lives got quick in your word, quicken these testimony, God tonight. Lord, we thank you for all that you've done, God all that you're going to do right now. God touched those. God touch those listening. God, we pray, God that you would open doors, God, she would give favor, God, touch our families, touch our marriage is God, work miracles, God and we just ask in the name of Jesus, Lord, that you would be glorified by day in our lives is a testimony of leaving he pistols and the name of:
Adam Dragoon:
27:54
Amen. Amen. Thank you so much for listening to TheBLAST Podcast. We're signing off for now and we will see you next time.:
David Smale:
28:01
On the next episode of TheBLAST Podcast.:
Adam Dragoon:
28:04
We want this to be a wake up call for the people of God. We want this to be a wake up call for pastors and for disciples, for anyone who carries a smartphone in your pocket. Because what we don't realize about the smartphones is that they are designed to lure you in. Yeah. They are designed to bring you in and capture your attention.:
David Smale:
28:27
Oh, sure. It's not, it's more than just, you know, Samsung and LG and an apple, you know? That they just made a nice device? No, no, no. They want you looking at it as much as possible. Absolutely.:
Narrator:
28:43
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