TheBLAST Podcast

042.1 – Put the Phone Down! [PART 1]

March 11, 2019 Season 5 Episode 4
TheBLAST Podcast
042.1 – Put the Phone Down! [PART 1]
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Introductions
00:04:39
Support the Show at Patreon.com
00:08:29
Listener Feedback
00:10:35
Fake News from The Babylon Bee
00:11:57
Do you have a smartphone addiction?
00:23:24
Screen Time App for iPhone
00:30:44
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TheBLAST Podcast
042.1 – Put the Phone Down! [PART 1]
Mar 11, 2019 Season 5 Episode 4
TheBLAST Podcast
We dive in to a well-needed topic in this generation: SmartPhone addiction!
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Fake News article from the Babylon Bee

In this episode, Dave and I are tackling the ever-growing problem of smartphone addiction. We hope you'll honestly assess your smartphone usage and determine whether it is something that helps or hinders your life for God.

Take the Smartphone Compulsion Test for yourself

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Intro:
0:00
On this episode of the blast podcast, we're going to discuss a rising addiction that is somehow become acceptable, how to recognize destructive behavior in yourself and in others, and how to break free from the addiction to smartphones, bringing well needed balance back into our lives. All of this and more. Coming up on episode 42 of TheBLAST Podcast.:
Narrator:
0:22
On this episode of TheBLAST Podcast, Pastor Adam Dragoon and Mr. David Smale are blasting across the interwebs, digging deeper into the practical application of God's word for our lives. Snowflakes beware, we're blasting off on this edition of TheBLAST Podcast.:
David Smale:
0:41
Alright well, we welcome you to episode 42 of TheBLAST Podcast. This episode is called put the phone down.:
Adam Dragoon:
0:50
Well, this is a well needed topic and a one that captured my attention a few weeks ago. I preached a sermon on it and we said to ourselves, this is something that we need to bring to our audience here at TheBLAST Podcast. So we want to welcome you back in a to TheBLAST Podcast. If you haven't heard our podcasts before, uh, we want to introduce ourselves to you. My name is pastor Adam, and sitting over here next to me is Mr Dave Smale.:
David Smale:
1:16
Hello.:
Adam Dragoon:
1:16
And we are here, uh, to be a blessing to the body of Christ. We want to have the conversations that disciples and pastors have, uh, between one another, uh, across the body of Christ and Christians everywhere. Um, the inspiration for this podcast going all the way back to episode zero zero one back in 2015 ah, was that we wanted to kind of recreate those conversations that happen, uh, on long van rides, uh, between here in Jacksonville, North Carolina has, as a men of God are discussing, um, the practical ways of how to live for him and obviously not just for men of God. It's also for the ladies out there. We got a couple of really interesting, uh, feedback, uh, emails from some of our female listeners and we know that there's a whole range, a whole array of people listening to this podcast. And we're glad that somebody out there thinks what we have to say is, is interesting. So worthwhile. Yeah. Uh, we want to just encourage you to do that, to connect with us. Uh, there's a multitude of ways that you can do that. Yup. Uh, which Dave is going to explain for us.:
David Smale:
2:22
Yeah. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. You can find us at the blast podcasts. Um, also if you could leave us some feedback, um, give us a review on iTunes. That really, really helps us, you know, when people are searching for podcasts of the more reviews we have a, the higher will be in the ratings when you're searching for, for podcasts. So leave us a review on iTunes a also Amazon Alexa, you can, you can speak to Alexa and say, Alexa, enable any pod and then you can say, Alexa, ask any pod to play TheBLAST Podcast and guess what? We'll be there somehow. Somehow we're not, but it does. Yeah.:
Adam Dragoon:
3:05
So, um, you're probably listening to us on a smartphone tonight and so we, um, we want to make that as easy and as seamless process as possible. Um, you might be listening to us through our website, um, but it would be easier for you and better for us if you would subscribe to the podcast using a podcasting app, either the podcast app for Ios on your iPhone or your iPad, or even if you're a, if you're on an android, you can also download an app or the Google podcast APP is, is a easy one to use in the play store. It makes it very easy to subscribe. And that way all of the new episodes will download automatically to your phone for your listening pleasure,:
David Smale:
3:48
stitcher, Spotify, a cast box, there's a multitude of them know,:
Adam Dragoon:
3:53
and if you don't know anything about what we've said for the last five minutes and you just know about email, you can also do that. Uh, you can send us an email at theblast@mail.com and we do encourage you to, uh, to leave some feedback for us and let us know how it's helped you. Let us know because listen, it's really hard for us. We're, we're just two guys sitting in a room, uh, at, you know, 8:45 PM on a Saturday night. And, uh, it's, it helps us so much and it encourages us to know that somebody out there is a, is being blessed by, by these recordings. And so if, if it has been a blessing to you, we do ask you to just send us an email or some kind of feedback in some kind of way. And that really, really helps us out a lot.:
David Smale:
4:40
Uh, we have a couple of ways you can support us. Otherwise, uh, one is through our patrion page.:
Adam Dragoon:
4:46
Yeah. So this is a new endeavor that we've started up and mentioned it on the last podcast, but, uh, I want to just, uh, give you the rundown real quick. So, uh, Patrion is, it's a place where people like us, uh, who are doing, uh, putting a lot of hours in Labor into a work that doesn't, it doesn't offer a monetary benefits. Uh, it's a way for us to be able to cover the expense of our time and also have any equipment that we need, which we, we do have a need for them. So Patreon is a place that you can go and our web address there is patreon that's spelled p a t r e o n.com, and then forward slash the blast podcast, which comes after that. And, uh, it's a way for our listeners to give something back. Uh, we hope that, uh, that you've gained something of value by listening to these podcasts and if it does have a true intrinsic value for your life, then we would ask you to share some of that value back to us. Uh, so there's two levels of support that we've created. Just as a getting started. Uh, there are the, the $3 per month option, which call our front-row converts. So when you subscribed as a front-row convert, that means, um, it means that each month you're going to be contributing $3, uh, toward the expenses of TheBLAST Podcast. And, um, uh, it means that you love TheBLAST Podcast enough to replace only one of your monthly coffees. It would be a great blessing for us. We also have the second tier and we call that our tie wearing disciples. And if you are one of our tie wearing disciples, man, that means you're hitting some hot licks and a, what that means is you are so generous that you're going to, uh, contribute 10 bucks or more per month. And that means that, uh, hopefully we've made some kind of serious improvement in your life somehow. I don't know how that happened, but somehow, but if you have found yourself binge listening to every episode, this might be you. So, uh, we would ask you and encourage you to go check out our page on patreon.com um, and the reason is we've said it a hundred times. We're not doing this to get rich. We simply need to cover expenses and buy some new equipment and uh, and prove to our wives that we're not wasting our time. Yup.:
David Smale:
7:07
Here's, here's a, here's a big ticket question here. Would, if somebody is doing the tie wearing disciple level of giving, but they're female now what do we call them?:
Adam Dragoon:
7:20
Oh Man. Oh you just broke my brain. I don't know that we have to create another tier are faithful female. Okay. Uh, one more thing before we get into our content for tonight and uh, that is maybe you don't want to do a monthly subscription. I get it. I know there's a lot of monthly subscriptions going on, sucking the life out of your bank account. Um, you can also support the show by, uh, by purchasing a blast podcast tee shirt. Uh, we have a few designs that are up on our website. Um, at spreadshirt. It's a fantastic platform for selling a apparel. So if you want to just maybe help us out by buying a tee shirt or um, perhaps a hat or Hoodie and there's tons of products that you can put our logo on. Um, but some of that, some of that money that you would pay to get that item is going to come back to us as well. So that's a great way you can support us as well. All of these links we'll put in our show notes so that you will have easy access to them. And we appreciate you helping us out and making it so that we don't have to bog you down with a bunch of dumb commercials like we used to in the past. So let's get into some feedback for tonight.:
David Smale:
8:27
Yeah, so we got, um, we got a couple of emails. Um, the first one is from Renee. It says this. Hello, my name is Renee galleass. I hope I pronounced that right. Uh, it says, hello, my name is Renee galleass. Um, I'm pastoring in Pasco, Washington. I'm out of Killeen, Texas. That's pastor Rosario's church. I just wanted to say that TheBLAST Podcast has been a huge blessing for my wife and I. Very insightful and encouraging. God bless you guys.:
Adam Dragoon:
8:58
That is awesome. We appreciate that. Renee. Thank you very much. We also want to say thank you for introducing TheBLAST Podcast to your wife. Yes, that's, that says a lot. Yeah. You know that a, a husband would say, hey honey, uh, I'm, I'm wasting all this time listening to these bozos on the podcast at check him out. And it turns out that, uh, that his wife actually enjoyed it as well. Her name is Wendy and she also sent in some listener feedback as well.:
David Smale:
9:23
She said, uh, hello. I am a pioneer wife. My husband and I were launched in the 2013 Chandler conference we pioneered in Galveston, Texas, missionaries in San Pedro. Sula h n I think that's Honduras. I think so. Okay. If Wendy, if we're wrong, let us know. Uh, I believe Hn is Honduras and are currently pioneering and tri cities, Washington. Uh, it made my heart happy when my husband shared TheBLAST Podcast with me. I just want to say thank you for doing this podcast. It's a blessing to hear sound doctrine. Wow. And Top.:
Adam Dragoon:
9:59
Sure you're listening to the right podcast?:
David Smale:
10:01
Uh, it's a blessing to hear sound doctrine and topics that are so relevant to our church. Please continue to make more, Wendy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Big encouragement to us and we appreciate that very, very much and so that's why that's probably half of the reason why we're here tonight because of those emails so. Exactly right. Thank you. Thank you so much. So we're going to take a quick break and uh, we hope that you enjoy our new segment, the article from the Babylon Bee. We'll be right back after this break.:
Babylon Bee:
10:38
This week from the Babylon Bee, According to sources close to local Christian man Christopher Mendez, the fact that he says "heck" instead of "hell" is still the only thing separating him from his non-believing friends and acquaintances. What an awesome witness for Christ! "He watches the same movies we do, goes to the same parties, commits all the same sins---the only difference seems to be that when he's angry, he says 'What the heck, bro!?'" said his friend Chad. "It's a powerful witness to all of us heathens when we hear him get super upset and start yelling at somebody using all substitute cuss words." "One time, when he was really mad, he even said 'fudge this,'" Chad added, clearly amazed by how counter-cultural Christopher's life is. If only we could all be like Chris, then truly the world would know Christ. Now get the heck out there and start being a good example to your unbelieving friends and family by acting exactly like them except when you toss out a "heck" or "darn it!":
Narrator:
11:59
Welcome back to The BLAST Podcast, where wearing tighter pants and leaning on a stool does not qualify you for ministry.:
Dave Smale:
12:07
All right, well, we want to get into our content for tonight. We want to just start with the interesting comparison. Now the, now the title of the episode tonight is put the phone down, but we want to give you a quick comparison with gambling. So gambling is horrible addiction. Would you agree? I would agree, yes. Okay. So we've seen families torn apart. We've seen fortunes wasted, uh, any trip to a casino. Uh, you'll find rows of white haired grannies spending their children's inheritance one quarter or even one nickel at a time. Right. You've, you've seen this if you've been to Las Vegas or Atlantic city or onto a Indian reservation and you've seen this, so what would you do if you knew someone that spent five hours a day in front of a slot machine? Now that sounds like a lot of times that's 35 hours a week, just short of a, of a full time job in front of a slot machine. That's a total of 75 days per year.:
Adam Dragoon:
13:14
Yeah. So the, the question is if you had somebody that had this particular addiction in your house, um, don't you think that you might want to say something to them about it?:
Dave Smale:
13:24
You'd want to intervene some in some way? You'd want to,:
Adam Dragoon:
13:28
I mean, that's what you do. If you love somebody and you care about them and you don't want them to be suffering then, then yeah, absolutely you would. You would say, hey, you're spending way too much time, uh, pumping the slot machine full of quarters. This is, this is a problem, this is a problem. Right, right.:
Dave Smale:
13:45
You'd encourage them to back away or you'd incur you, you do something out of love, you would do something for them. Right? I would, I hope you would. All right. Well now we want to shift to, so we want to give you a little test tonight. So this is called the smart phone compulsion test.:
Adam Dragoon:
14:09
So I found this test on the Internet and um, and I took it for myself. This, this is as I was preparing to, uh, to preach this sermon to my church, uh, this, this whole a podcast started out as a sermon in my mind that I wanted to share with the church. So I'm doing some research and I found this little test. So Dave, I'll let you ask the questions and then I will give an honest response live right here. I'm sorry. That's dangerous. I'm just being completely honest and open. Okay. That's okay.:
Dave Smale:
14:40
All right. And so, um, here we go. Do you find yourself spending more time on your cell or smartphone than you realize?:
Adam Dragoon:
14:49
Yeah.:
Dave Smale:
14:51
Okay. All right. Now, if I remember right when, when, uh, when I took this test, I think I actually had to, we were marketing. We're marketing it down. Yes. The, the, so you might want to do that if you have a passing along and you, you're not, you know, you're not, you're driving. Don't do this. If you're driving at the time to mark down your yeses and your nos and count them up. Okay. Question two, do you find yourself mindlessly passing time on a regular basis by staring at your cell phone or smartphone?:
Adam Dragoon:
15:20
Well, I mean, it's happened. Yes.:
Dave Smale:
15:25
Number three. Do you seem to lose track of time when on your cell or smartphone?:
Adam Dragoon:
15:31
Uh, yeah. Oh, good.:
Dave Smale:
15:33
Can you say Facebook? All right. Youtube. Yeah. Youtube. Okay. Question Four. Do you find yourself spending more time texting, tweeting, or emailing as opposed to talking to people in person?:
Adam Dragoon:
15:48
Yeah. Oh yeah. Or it might be worth to.:
Dave Smale:
15:51
Yeah, I know. Um, question five, has the amount of time you spend on your cell or smartphone been increasing?:
Adam Dragoon:
16:00
Maybe. I don't know. I, I'd say it probably topped out. I hope I have. Okay. But I I'm tempted to say no, but I might even be so brave to say yes here.:
Dave Smale:
16:13
All right. All right. Question six. Do you wish you could be a little less involved with your sellers smartphone?:
Adam Dragoon:
16:21
Yes, I do. Yeah.:
Dave Smale:
16:24
Okay. Now here's a good one. Number seven. Do you sleep with your cell or smartphone turned on under your pillow or next to your bed regularly?:
Adam Dragoon:
16:36
The last thing you look at before you go to sleep and the and the first thing you'll see when you, when you wake up.:
Dave Smale:
16:43
Yeah, because you know you heard all those notifications in the night. You have to wake up and see who who was. Okay. Number eight do you find yourself viewing and answering texts, tweets, and emails at all hours of the day and night, even when it means interrupting other things you were doing?:
Adam Dragoon:
17:03
Yup.:
Dave Smale:
17:06
Number nine, do you text, email, tweet, or surf the Internet while driving or doing other similar activities that require your focused attention and concentration?:
Adam Dragoon:
17:18
Yes. I, I'm sad to say, but it happens. Yes.:
Dave Smale:
17:25
Do you feel? Question number 10, do you feel your use of your seller smartphone decreases your productivity at times?:
Adam Dragoon:
17:34
Absolutely. Oh yeah. I mean, I just look out at people in my church as I'm preaching and I know that their productivity is being increased.:
Dave Smale:
17:45
And now ladies and gentlemen, we now know where this actually canceled. All right. Number 11, do you feel reluctant to be without your cell or smart for a phone? Even for a short time?:
Adam Dragoon:
17:57
Of course, you can't leave home without it. You can't, if you'd happen to leave home without it, uh, have you ever had those little phantom buzzes in your pocket? You know what I'm talking about? Feeling the pocket. Oh, it's not there.:
Dave Smale:
18:14
Yeah. Okay. Number 11. Uh, I'm sorry, I just, I just grew up. Number 12, do you feel ill at ease or uncomfortable when you accidentally leave your smart phone in the car or at home, have no service or have a broken phone?:
Adam Dragoon:
18:32
Pastor Campbell tells a good story about that. He says, he says people, um, you know, if they leave their Bible at church though, they'll, they'll say, oh no problem. I'll just, I'll just come back on Sunday. No problem. I'll just let the cleaning crew pick it up, you know? Oh, but if the cell phone is left behind, he's getting phone calls within 15 minutes. Pastor, don't let them get my phone.:
Dave Smale:
18:58
Oh Gosh. All right. Number 13 when you eat meals, is your cell or smart phone? Always part of the table, place setting.:
Adam Dragoon:
19:07
Okay. This is one where I can honestly say no because we set up a rule in our house. We didn't do no phones and phones at the table.:
Dave Smale:
19:14
All right. Number 14 when your seller smart phone rings, beeps or Buzzes, do you feel an intense urge to check for texts, tweets, emails, updates, et cetera?:
Adam Dragoon:
19:25
Oh yeah,:
Dave Smale:
19:26
of course you do. We all do. Okay, and last number 15 do you find yourself mindlessly checking your cell smartphone? Many times a day. Even when you know there is likely nothing new or important to see mean.:
Adam Dragoon:
19:43
Okay, so I maybe got one. No, maybe two. I got like one and a half nose out of the, out of the entire list of 15:
Dave Smale:
19:53
when I took the test, I got a, I got a 12 out of 15 yeses.:
Adam Dragoon:
19:59
So you're doing better than me. Okay? So this is what blew my mind when I read the results. Now this, this, uh, this little quiz was put online by a guy named Dr. David Greenfield. He has an organization called the Center for Internet and Technology Addiction. Hmm. Okay, so now this is the rating of your results. So remember if count up your yeses, I got 13 and a half or maybe 14, 13 and a half. Yeah. So you keep your number in mind as we read through the results of this.:
Dave Smale:
20:31
Doesn't the Bible say let your yes be yes.:
Adam Dragoon:
20:34
You know, leaving some wiggle room in there, okay? Okay. If you said yes only one or two times, how did that list then your behavior is normal, but that doesn't mean you should live on your smartphone.:
Dave Smale:
20:50
Okay? Now if, let me just put out right here. If you had only one or two yeses,:
Adam Dragoon:
20:56
you are weird.:
Dave Smale:
20:56
We want to know who you are. Please write to us.:
Adam Dragoon:
21:00
You probably don't even know what a podcast is, so you're probably not going to hear this, but if that does describe you men, we would really, yeah, we wanted them:
Dave Smale:
21:08
to meet you and find out how you do it:
Adam Dragoon:
21:10
and how you can continue to crawl back under that rock. Okay. If you answered three or four, your behavior is leaning toward problematic or compulsive use. Now, when I read that because I thought, oh gosh, I'm in trouble here. Okay. If you scored five or above yeses, it is likely that you may have a problematic or compulsive smartphone use pattern. [inaudible] not getting worse now.:
Dave Smale:
21:42
Okay, now that should have been five to seven because if you scored an eight, eight or higher,:
Adam Dragoon:
21:48
that's half of the questions. Okay? Yeah. If you scored eight or higher, if your score, this is great, if your score is eight or over, you might consider seeing a psychologist, psychiatrist, or psychotherapist who specializes in behavioral addictions for a consultation signed your local friendly psychotherapists, Greenfield, and there's a contact sheet on his website. Okay. So all of that to say, ah, you're probably addicted to your smartphone whether you know it or not, right?:
Dave Smale:
22:24
Yes, without a doubt. I mean globally are, especially if we go by that test. Yeah. I'd say probably I can almost with 100% assurity say that everybody listening,:
Adam Dragoon:
22:35
anyone who has a smartphone as a smartphone is going to answer eight or above easy. Right?:
Dave Smale:
22:42
Of course.:
Adam Dragoon:
22:42
Um, I mean, unless you're from another generation, I mean, maybe someone forced an iPhone upon you that you didn't want it to have. I think that might be:
Dave Smale:
22:51
happening to my mother. I tried, I tried, I said to just keep your flip phone at some fine. Oh No. Uh, who were, uh, there's an apple store in the mall by me. No mom, don't do it. Don't do it. And sure enough, she walked out of there with an iPad and a iPhone and an Imac and she can't use any of them getting yes.:
Adam Dragoon:
23:14
So, okay. So now that we have established that you are probably addicted to your smartphone, if you're on an iPhone, I just like you to follow along with me. For a moment. If you don't mind while you're listening to this program, you can uh, open up your settings app. And A, I'll give you a moment to open your settings app. And while you're in your settings app, you will scroll down just a tad and you will come to a little setting called screen time. I'll wait now as you look at your screen, you can click on or you can tap on all devices right there. And if you just move over to the last seven days, you will get an idea of exactly how much time you have been spending on your phone. Wow. I'm almost ashamed to look at the number that's on my screen at this very moment. It tells me that I have been using my phone on an average six hours and four minutes per day. Wow. I'm worse than the gambling addict man. Now I would say that, uh, more than half of that is podcasting, so, so I'll, I'll take a mulligan on that. But just to put it in perspective, that's how often and, and uh, and how long that the screen is active. And I'm looking at something on my phone. I don't know if android has something similar. I was just looking in mine. I couldn't find anything but, but they might have something in a more recent phone cause mine's a little old. Yeah. Well there, there's also some apps that help you track this, this kind of, we'll get into that later. But, uh, that's, that's just me. That's me as a pastor, uh, average, you know, whatever I do. Uh, and if I'm using the phone five to six hours a day, then I imagine there's probably other people out there that are using it at least as much. Right. Okay.:
Dave Smale:
25:15
Sure.:
Adam Dragoon:
25:16
Let's talk about some reasons why this is important. Okay. And why this is not just an annoyance in our lives. This is not just something that is negligible, something that we don't need to pay attention to. Dave, I would like to know, how do you think that this affects people on a day to day basis, and maybe you can judge that based on your own experience?:
Dave Smale:
25:37
Hmm. Well, a lot of the things we already kind of touched on productivity time-wasting uh, just, uh, a lot of, I mean, just a lot of distraction. You can't focus. I mean, that's, that's, uh, that's the big thing to me:
Adam Dragoon:
25:58
and we're going to get into some of that here. Um, but, but there are even beyond that, I think that there's spiritual reasons that we need to pay attention to this too, because this is not just affecting how we live our day to day lives. I think that this also has a profound effect on our relationship with God. Wouldn't you say?:
Dave Smale:
26:17
Absolutely it does.:
Adam Dragoon:
26:19
I mean, if you think about the life that you lived before smartphones, if you're old enough to remember that, it makes me sound like an old fogy here. But if you, uh, you know, I can remember life before smartphones and, um, I mean it, it wasn't like it was, it was the only thing that caused this kind of a problem. I mean, television perhaps has played this role, entertainment also, but now that the thing is in your pocket and it's close to you 24 hours a day, I believe that this truly does have not just a physical and an emotional impact on us, but also a spiritual impact on how we relate to our God in heaven. And that's why this is such an important thing for us to talk about.:
Dave Smale:
27:08
Yeah, I would completely agree.:
Adam Dragoon:
27:11
So, um, there is a book that then as I was doing research for this message that I preached, that I picked up, I purchased it, uh, read it, read through it in about 45 minutes, 45 horrifying minutes as I realized the depth of my own problem. Um, and so we're, we're going to be borrowing from this book. Let me just give you the title here. The name is called, uh, how to break up with your phone by a girl named Catherine Price. It is a priceless bug.:
Dave Smale:
27:42
It's a priceless book by Catherine Price.:
Adam Dragoon:
27:45
Yeah, I mean it is a full of a wonderful little nuggets of truth, um, facts. It's based on facts, figure, scientific study. And um, and so we're going to be sharing with you some of the information that came out of this. Obviously there's a lot more deep dive that you can go into. If you would check this out, we'll leave a link to the, to the kindle book, uh, in the show notes. But we want this to be a wake up call for the people of God. We want this to be a wake up call for pastors and for disciples, for anyone who carries a smartphone in your pocket. Because what we don't realize about the smartphones is that they are designed to lure you in.:
Dave Smale:
28:24
Yeah.:
Adam Dragoon:
28:25
They are designed to bring you in and capture your attention.:
Dave Smale:
28:29
Sure. It's not, it's more than just, you know, Samsung and LG and apple, you know, that they just made a nice device and that's what, yeah, we just wanted to make a nice device that, that, you know, people could find useful. No, no, no. They want you looking at it as much as possible.:
Dave Smale:
28:49
Absolutely. Yeah. And so in the first chapter of the book here, uh, the author says this, I'm just going to read verbatim from the first couple of paragraphs here. She says:
Catherine Price:
28:58
it's tempting to think of smartphones as just one more technology in a long list of technologies that have freaked people out, telegraphs, telephones, radios, movies, television, video games, and even books all caused panic when they were first introduced and if turned out to be less harmful than people had feared. But while we shouldn't be alarmist, Steve Jobs was right when he first described the iPhone. He said, this is a different kind of product. And he was right. There are different in a lot of good ways, obviously, but smartphones also talk back at us. They Nag us, they disturb us when we're working. They demand our attention and reward us when we give it to them. Smartphones engage in disruptive behaviors that have traditionally been performed only by extremely annoying people. What's, um, what's more, they give us access to the entire Internet and unlike previous technologies, we keep them near us at all times.:
Dave Smale:
29:59
That's so true.:
Adam Dragoon:
30:00
That's the key.:
Catherine Price:
30:01
Smartphones are also one of the first popular technologies to be specifically engineered to get us to spend time on them. In the words of Tristan Harris, a former Google product manager, who's now working to raise awareness about how our devices are designed to manipulate us. He says, quote, your telephone in the 1970s did not have a thousand engineers on the other side of the phone who are redesigning it to be more and more persuasive.:
Dave Smale:
30:27
Wow.:
Adam Dragoon:
30:28
And that is exactly the reason why that device that you're probably listening to us on right now, uh, can be a potentially a great problem.:
Dave Smale:
30:37
Oh yeah.:
Narrator:
30:39
On the next episode of the blast podcast,:
Adam Dragoon:
30:41
software engineers who are designing the apps on your smartphone, did you know that they purposefully are leaving out what it's called? The stopping points?:
Dave Smale:
30:53
Really.:
Adam Dragoon:
30:53
And what I mean by that is, if you've ever found yourself scrolling on your Facebook feed, did you ever notice that your Facebook feed never comes to an end?:
Dave Smale:
31:03
I noticed that,:
Adam Dragoon:
31:04
that there is no bottom of the page.:
Dave Smale:
31:07
Yeah.:
Adam Dragoon:
31:08
You can just keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. There's no place to stop. There's no stopping point. Right?:
Narrator:
31:16
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