New Orleans’ Most Haunted House And The Cruel Heiress Behind It

Some houses feel alive. Ours begins on a bright corner of the French Quarter where music and laughter once slipped through open windows—and where a locked attic hid the kind of cruelty that still turns the air heavy. We follow Madame Delphine LaLaurie’s ascent through power and privilege, from celebrated socialite to a figure whose legacy is etched in screams neighbors swore they heard at night. Wealth, influence, a young physician husband, and a house she finished in her own name became the stage for what a city would uncover after a sudden blaze: seven survivors found chained and mutilated with spiked collars and wounds that seemed tended just enough to keep suffering alive.

The 1834 fire, set by a desperate cook, forced doors open and illusions shut. Witness accounts and newspaper reports documented the rescue, the fury of the crowd, and the couple’s calculated escape to Paris. From there the mansion became a vessel for memory. As a girls’ school and music conservatory, it gathered diary entries of cold hands at throats, an elegant woman vanishing on balconies, and students marked by forces no one could see. As apartments and a furniture store, it hosted a tenant who warned of a stalking demon before his unsolved murder and a shop plagued by stains that showed up like grief—foul, unexplained, and financially ruinous.

We sift fact from legend without sanding down the truth. The public record speaks: seven living victims, iron collars, chains, and a city that smashed interiors while its culprits sailed free. Later grotesque rumors may magnify the horror, but they aren’t required to understand why people still stop on the sidewalk and feel a pressure in the chest, hear a chain’s dull clink, or glimpse a shadow darker than dark. Whether you enter as a true crime devotee, a paranormal skeptic, or a New Orleans history lover, this story holds you in that narrow space where documented harm and lasting hauntings overlap.

Join us as we trace the LaLaurie Mansion through centuries of aftermath: from Leah’s tragic fall to modern renovations finding bone in brick and workers marked by three sudden scratches. Then tell us what you think: is this the most haunted house in New Orleans or a monument to trauma that refuses to fade? Subscribe, share with a friend who loves haunted history, and leave a review with the detail that unsettled you most.

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Transcript

Setting The Stage: Haunted New Orleans

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Between the realm of the dead and the journeys of the living, join Josh, Jamie, and Elisa as they delve into the vast world of the paranormal and breathe life back into the history of the departed.

SPEAKER_03 0:10

Hey everybody, welcome to the Paranormal Peeps Podcast. I'm Josh.

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I'm Jamie. And I'm Elisa.

SPEAKER_03 0:16

And we have another exciting and interesting episode for you guys. But what are we going to be talking about, Elisa?

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Because we we have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 0:28

Yeah, we have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Yeah, and he thinks it's exciting. Little does he know that it to be determined. No, this is the Lola Ree mansion. So it's in New Orleans. Ah, haunted New Orleans. One of the many haunted places in New Orleans. Oh, I believe it. We should actually do a segment. Just New Orleans. Why not?

SPEAKER_03 0:50

Can we do it from the French quarter though? Like if we're gonna do it, we should be in New Orleans.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

Yeah. I mean, why not? I mean, we can add it to the list, but I mean and see how far we get.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

Christmas in New Orleans.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Interesting idea. I wouldn't be complaining.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

Kids might, but whatever.

Delphine’s Early Life And First Marriages

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We'll be happy. We're good. So this episode is based on a female who is very controlling. Very, very controlling. Her name is Madame Marie Delphine LaLerie. So she was very proper, right? But she was born in New Orleans on March 19th, 1787. She was a high society Creole socialite known for her beauty and lavish parties. She first got married to Don, a high-ranking Spanish officer in 1800 at the age of 13. Sick. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Like sick bad, but legit.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

Like that's that's but that was that was such the common practice back then, though.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

You know, it really was. Oh, but she was like, I don't want to know I don't know if I want to say she was mature for her age. I'm sure she was, but she already knew what she wanted from a very young age, and it literally plays out that you'll see through her life. So while she was pregnant, he was appointed to a prestigious position in Madrid. And during that journey, Don Raymond fell suddenly and violently ill. I've been doing a lot of your guys' names lately, I've noticed. That's his dad's name, Don Raymond. Is it really? Yes. What are the um That's why I smile? He's been reincarnated. There you go. So he got violently ill and he died in Havana, Cuba, before they even reached Spain. It was recorded as a sudden illness and possibly yellow fever, uh, which also was rampant in the Caribbean. Because Delphine, well, okay, so sometimes we'll call her Delphine, sometimes we'll call her Marie. Okay. Depending on, I think, the stage of her life that she was in. Delphine was known for her temper even then. So she's 13, 14, 15. So at a young age. She's young. She had a and she was spicy. She's spicy, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Cajun spicy.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

I guess. So whispers began that he hadn't died of a disease, but that she had poisoned him during the voyage to avoid leaving New Orleans or to seize his estate. So she already knew what she wanted. This girl. Dang. So after returning to New Orleans as a wealthy widow, Delphine married Jean Ble Blanc. Blanc? Blanc. We'll call her Blanc. That sounds way better. In 1808, at around 21 years old. He was a prominent lawyer, banker, and politician. And in 1868, Blanc died a quiet, sudden death at the age of 48. Historical records are vague, usually citing illness. His death left Delphine with a massive fortune and several children. The speed of his passing, occurring just as he was becoming more eccentric and controlling, led many of the French quarter to believe that she had expedited his death to gain full control of his wealth and business interests. Does that sound familiar? A little bit. But by the time she married Dr. Lenard Louis Nicholas LaLerie, husband number three, in 1825, she was 38 years old, and her husband was 15 years younger. He was 23. So now she's a cougar? A hundred percent. Dang, girl.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

That's kind of unusual for that time of Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Yeah, she was one of the wealthiest women in the city. And she had six kids by that time. So Lewis was a French physician, and their marriage was reportedly pretty volatile. But when it came to their attic, they were on a united front. We'll just say that.

SPEAKER_03 5:25

You said their attic.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Their attic. We will delve into that. So now we're calling her Marie. So what I kind of wonder is if throughout these stages of her life she kind of changes her identity a little bit. I mean, when you have like 500 names, I mean you have tons to pick from. But I wonder if that's how it was for her. Wonder if she gets up, hmm, who will I be today?

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Yeah.

Power, Wealth, And The Third Husband

SPEAKER_03 5:49

Or maybe she has multi-personality disorder, and those are actually all of the names of her different personalities.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Very well can. You know what? That fits.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Yeah. So Marie brought home or bought the home with her own money and in her own name. But this home wasn't finished. She added onto it and finished it the way that she wanted. And like most rich socialites back then, they owned slaves, right? So she became very controlling over slaves. And one night a 12-year-old girl named Leah, that was one of her slaves, was brushing Marie's hair. And she caught a snarl, which got caught in Marie's hair, and then she got really angry. Like, really angry. So Marie grabbed her whip and started chasing Leah through the house. And frightened, Leah ran to the roof's edge and she turned around and saw that Marie was coming at her with the whip. And so she had nowhere else to go. So she literally jumped off the house. She'd rather jump than face her. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:58

My guess is that that's not the first run and she's had with her then in that avenue.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

Well, right. There's got to be a reason that she's so frightened of her. Well, the fact that she had her whip right there tells you enough. I mean, that tells me enough. Yeah. Yeah. She probably like had a belt made just for her whip that she could keep it in. Right. But she died on impact. And but little did Marie know that the neighbor was watching from the window. Oh dang. Mm-hmm. So authorities came and they investigated the Leah incident and they found Marie guilty, and she was forced to pay a fine and sell all of her slaves back. So what she did is she secretly told her relatives which ones her slaves were, and they bought them all back and gave them to her. Oh, so she's really in her hand and conniving too. Uh-huh. Nice.

SPEAKER_03 7:51

What a nice lady.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

Can you imagine those slaves when they were like, oh, we're finally free, and then realized that they're coming back?

SPEAKER_02 7:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Devastating. Oh, and let just wait till you find out what she does to them. So she would throw these big lavish parties, and guests started noticing that the slaves were coming in, but they were never leaving. They were never coming out of the house, like going to the market and buying things or anything like that. They never left the house. And neighbors also noted that Lewis often seemed indifferent to what was happening in his own home. So people started to complain because they were hearing screams. And he would brush them off with cold professional arrogance, telling them to mind their own business.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Oh yeah, he's he knows.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

I feel like this is gonna be Sweeney Todd.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

You have to wait and see.

SPEAKER_03 8:48

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but dun dun dun.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

So the slaves in her home would get punished to a harsh degree. She would keep them on starvation rations as a form of control. So even the cook, she was a 70-year-old woman. You know how like cooks will taste the food? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Yeah.

Control And Cruelty Inside The Household

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Not allowed. If she tried to do any of that, she would also be starved. The cook witnessed Marie beating her own daughters when they were caught trying to sneak food to the starving enslaved people. And Marie was unsatisfied with a meal that she had prepared. So she chained her by the ankle to the stove and told her that she was going to go to the third floor attic next. No one knew what was happening in that attic room. Just when people went in, they never came back out. So the cook decided that that was just too much. She couldn't handle it anymore. So on April 10th, 1834, she put her life back into her own hands and started a fire. Neighbors and firemen broke into the home, and Marie acted like a victim of the house fire. She acted like, or she didn't act like a victim. She acted like a general defending their fortress. She had weird behavior that morning, and it's often cited by historians as like the smoking gun that proved that she wasn't just being neglectful, that she was malicious. So when the first neighbors arrived at the door offering to help save her furniture and her valuables, because she was so rich, so she had like really, really expensive things in the house. Right. Um, Marie was reportedly calm and dismissive, acting like it was no big deal, and told the rescuers that the fire was under control and that their help wasn't needed. Like, who would honestly do that? No, especially.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

Yeah, why would you turn away help? No. My house is fine. There's a fire blazing in the house. It's but it's okay. I don't need your help.

SPEAKER_03 10:56

It reminds me of the those memes where they got a little dog sitting on a chair in the middle of a fire, and he says, it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Everything's fine. Yeah, that's exactly how this was. She attempted to bar the door and stay in the foyer, trying to protect the image of a composed lady who simply had a kitchen mishap. As the smoke grew thicker, the crowd became more insistent, and people began rushing in to save her expensive belongings. Marie and her husband, Dr. Louis LaLerie, became verbally aggressive when rescuers moved toward the service wing in the back of the house where the enslaved people were kept. She and Lewis practically tried to block the way. When a bystander asked for the keys to the slave quarters so that they could evacuate them from the smoke, Dr. LaLerie reportedly sneered. This is like one of his famous quotes, I guess. Um, there are those who would do better to stay at home than to come and meddle with the laws of others and seeking to dictate them. Oh boy. Like what a jerk.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Yeah, there's some arrogance in that one.

Leah’s Death And The Sham Slave Sale

SPEAKER_00 12:08

Like they're trying to help him, but he but I mean they're trying to hide. Exactly. You know, so when people are trying to hide something, they get defensive. Oh of course. So even as the smoke reached the upper floors, Marie refused to hand over the keys to the attic rooms. She stood her ground, insisting that the property inside was her business alone. It was only when the 70-year-old cook, chained to the stove, screamed out that there were people in the attic who were being left to burn that the crowd turned into a rescue party. The group of men, including the town judge and a bunch of other really prominent men, eventually ignored her protests entirely. They took crowbars and axes to the barred doors of the attic, and Marie watched with cold icy fury as her secrets were literally pried open. The rescuers began to scream at the horror of what they found in the attic. As soon as Marie heard them, she knew the game was over. Her and her husband Lewis retreated to the back room, and the crowd was building outside, completely crowding the streets. She ordered her carriage to pull into the co into the courtyard. She and her driver and her husband and a couple of her daughters go out on high speed out of her home, scattering the crowd and headed toward the Bayou of St. John. The neighbors and firemen found seven enslaved people in various states of horrific neglect and torture. Seven slaves, more or less horribly mutilated, were seen suspended by the neck, with their limbs apparently stretched and torn from one extremity to another. They had been confined by by her for several months and had been merely kept in existence to prolong their suffering. A woman had a large hole in her head, and her body was covered with wounds filled with maggots. Like she's alive. Gross. And she has maggots all over her and a big hole in her head.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

That is absolutely terrible.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Indicating that they had been left to rot while still alive for weeks or months. Most of the seven survivors were wearing spiked iron collars that prevented them from even resting their heads against the wall or lying down comfortably. When they would eventually fall asleep from the exhaustion, their necks or shoulders would be impaled. So if you can imagine an iron ring around your neck with tons of spikes going toward like in all different directions on your neck and your shoulders and collarbones, anywhere around there. And you move your head at all. I mean, like, you know, when you're so exhausted and your head starts to bob. Oh, yeah. Well, every time their head would bob, they'd get stabbed. Jeez, that's sick. Yeah. Several people were found chained to the walls or floor in unnatural positions. One man was chained so that he could only stand on his tiptoes. While Marie was the one reportedly wielding the whip, Lewis is suspected of the more like clinical horrors. Rescuers noted that some of the mutilations were done with surgical precision. This fueled that the legend that Lewis was using the enslaved people as live subjects for experimental surgeries. It is notoriously difficult to keep a body alive while it's being starved and mutilated. The fact that seven victims were still breathing w when found suggests that someone with medical training was monitoring them just enough to prepare them or to prevent them from dying too soon. Yeah. The crowd outside heard what they were hiding and became very angry. And they turned into a mob and destroyed the inside of the home. They literally barged in and destroyed everything. They actually found bodies buried in the floorboards and the body of Leah in the yard. Oh, jeez. The L'Olorese never were caught. Are you kidding? Never. They escaped to Paris and lived the rest of their lives out there. Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_03 16:23

Of course they're not gonna be extradited, so and they're wealthy rich.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

So they can get away with whatever they want.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Makes you wonder if she went over there to Paris and started doing that stuff again. Oh, I know.

The Cook’s Fire And Rising Suspicion

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So after the Civil War, the building was used as a public school for girls and later a music conservatory. Students frequently reported being scratched or pushed by an invisible force. The most common report of all was a tall, elegant woman who would appear and then vanish, leaving the girls with physical marks. One student claimed she felt two cold hands press into her back, but when she turned and looked back, no one was there. One teacher reported in her diary that a student collapsed in tears because she felt cold fingers wrap around her throat during a music lesson. The girl had faint red marks on her neck that faded within the hour. During its time as a conservatory, teachers reported seeing the same woman, matching Marie's description, standing on the balconies or in the hallways, only to disappear when approached. In the 1890s, the house was turned into apartments, and the main floor, it was a furniture store. Rooms that were locked and emptied would be found with beds perfectly indented as if someone or something had been lying there. An Italian tenant was found murdered in his room. His belongings were scattered and ransacked, but notably nothing was stolen. Before his death, he had told his friends and neighbors that a demon was stalking him and that he couldn't escape the feeling of being watched. He claimed the entity would not rest until he was dead. The police was never able to find a human suspect, and the case went cold. The owner of the furniture store reported a recurring and expensive problem that defied logic explanation. He would close the shop at night with his inventory, expensive sofas, chairs, and fabrics in pristine condition, but in the morning he would find the furniture covered in a dark fowling smell of stain smelling stain. Upon closer inspection, the stains appeared to be blood, feces, or urine. However, there were no signs of a break-in, no animal found in the shop, and no leaks in the ceilings. Locals believed that the spectral residue of the victims in the attic was literally leaking down through the floors, manifesting on the items below. The owner eventually actually went out of business because he couldn't keep any furniture in stock. Oh, that's terrible. Isn't that gross?

SPEAKER_03 19:00

That's really gross.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

For a brief period in the early 1900s, the first floor was also a pub or a bar, which the owner, leaning into the rumors, actually named it the haunted saloon. Patrons frequently reported seeing a male apparition who would walk towards them with his mouth wide open. Witnesses claims that when the ghost opened his mouth to scream, it was missing its tongue, leaving only a black nub at the back of its throat. But like that wasn't unheard of for slaves.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

No, that's that practice was unfortunately common.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Especially for the Lorelays, I'm sure, because they don't want anybody to tell.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

You can't talk, you don't got a tongue, so Yeah.

Breaking Into The Attic

SPEAKER_00 19:54

So housekeepers have reported a sudden overwhelming smell of burnt rotten meat that fills the kitchen or the third floor for several minutes before vanishing. The most heartbreaking activity is centered around the courtyard and the balconies. Tourists on night walks have frequently called the police to report a child sitting on the edge of the roof, legs dangling. This is often followed by a blood curdling shriek that sounds like it's coming from a young girl. Several accounts claim the screams end abrupt with a thud. Then nothing is ever found on the pavement. Neighbors also frequently report hearing a running child on the upper balcony, followed by the sound of a woman screaming, get in here. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Jeez.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

During a 2019 renovation, workers reported finding three long scratches on their arms or backs after working in the attic, often accompanied by the smell of something sulfuric or rotting, which we have smelt. Yes, we have that before. And it's never anything good.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

No, it's such a weird smell, especially when you're in a place that doesn't have a running toilet or a sewer line and you smell it.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Or anything and you smell it. Yep. They found human bone fragments fused into the brickwork and floorboards, suggesting that the cleaning of the house after the 1834 mob was never truly finished. Witnesses hear the crack of a whip, the frantic neighing of horses, and heavy iron gates swinging open, but when they look, the gates are closed and the streets are empty. Visitors describe a sudden crushing pressure on their chests as they approach the third floor area. It's often accompanied by a static filling in the air as if there's a thunderstorm that's about to break. Former residents of the apartment, back when it was subdivided, and they had the furniture store on the bottom. They report hearing a dragging sound. It sounds like something heavy and metallic being pulled across the floorboards directly above their heads, followed by like a rhythmic metallic clink sound of a chain hitting the floor. Wow. Jeez. I can imagine that though. I can imagine that being a repetitive thing that they would hear. During the 1990s and early 2000s, a specific shadow entity became a frequent topic of conversation during those who worked in the building. Unlike a misty ghost, this one was described as a solid shadow. It is a dark, tall figure that doesn't have a face, just a silhouette that is blacker than the darkness around it. It is most often seen in the peripheral vision of people walking down the long hallways, and when they turn to look at it, the shadow folds into the wall or disappears into the floor. Some believe this is the spirit of Dr. Louis La Lorie continuing his silent cold observations. Like we've we've had where we have been in the dark and seen something darker than dark.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

Yeah.

The Horrors Discovered

SPEAKER_00 23:15

Yes. I've seen it in a prison when we went to one of the prisons that completely totally run down. And it's it feels pitch black, but then you see something darker than that.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

It's really hard to explain. Kind of trippy.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

It really is.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

Because you think, oh, pitch black, but then you think of something even darker. Like it's hard to imagine if you've never experienced it. Yeah, and you wonder how that's even possible. But it is. But it is.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

Yeah, because you usually you'd think, well, I need a light source for a shadow, which is true. Um, but yeah, when you don't have a light source and there's still a shadow.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Yeah, something that's just darker than dark.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

And it adds a big creep factor when you see something like that.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

Especially when it moved like especially when you're looking straight at it and you see it move and dart into a room.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Mm-hmm. In 2007, Nicolas Cage actually purchased the mansion for roughly$3.4 million. But shortly after buying the mansion, he went bankrupt and lost the home two years later. He I think he only stayed in the house one night. But he threw a bunch of parties over there.

SPEAKER_03 24:33

Are we talking about the actor Nicolas Cage?

SPEAKER_00 24:36

Yes. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

Oh, dang.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yep. So now it's privately owned and no one is allowed inside. But the Lothery Mansion has had a reject reflex. It was a school and the students were attacked. It was a furniture store, the stock was ruined, it was a bar, and the patrons were terrified. It was owned by a movie star, he went bankrupt. So now that someone just owns it as a home and it's a private residence, I'm assuming they live in there. But nobody's allowed inside.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Oh the possibilities. I would not be want to be one of their slaves, that's for sure. No. So I watched a documentary. Well, it's not a documentary, it was I don't know how true it was. Um about a woman who, and I can't remember if it was about her or not, but I watched this thing where pretty much the same stuff.

Escape To Paris And Aftermath

SPEAKER_00 25:59

Yeah, there's um there's a lot of rumors that go around um that say that there was somebody that had a hole in their head with a stick inside. What? So that they would so that they could scramble up the brain. Oh, jeez. Um and then they said that there were people that were in cages that would they would break the bones and then they wouldn't heal all the bones. And then they'd have and then they'd re break the bones. And yes, it's exactly what I did watch. Yeah, those are the myths or legends that come with the home. Yep. And some people do believe them. Yeah, so there there is a thing on that. There is a thing on that, yes. But doing my research, I there was no facts for those things. Right the facts were because they were in the newspapers. So the facts were that there were seven people in the attic, they were all alive, all malnourished, and um tortured, like hung up. They all had the things around their necks, you know, things like that. Um, I don't like I'm sure with him being a doctor that he probably did do surgical things on them. I wouldn't doubt it. I would be surprised if he didn't.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

Yeah. Well, because that was what 1800s, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Like 17. Well, yeah, 1800s, because she was born in 1700.

SPEAKER_03 27:34

Yeah, so I mean, there was a practice back then where surgeons would go and you know, go to graveyards and get corpses and do things with corpses to to experiment. I mean, really, it's what we do today too. We just have cadaver labs and it's much more regulated.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

People donate their bodies versus oh yeah, exactly. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Right. But yeah, they uh so I wouldn't be surprised if if he did do that because he's like, Well, I'm gonna learn more about the human body, so let me flay you open and figure out what's inside you.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

Yeah, and I imagine that's probably where the screams came from.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Yeah, yeah. Gosh, that's worse than Sweeney Todd.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Well, and if you think about it, the woman had, and I'm sure a lot of them probably had this with the cuts and the maggots inside of them. I I wouldn't, yeah. I wouldn't doubt it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

Yeah. Oh, that's so terrible.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

Imagine the energy that house holds.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

It has got to have some real strong dark energy in it.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Yeah. Well, and they added another level to the home. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. So before when she bought it, it wasn't finished. And I don't know how much it wasn't finished. I don't know if she had to continue building or if it was just like, oh, I need to finish the inside. But she made it a two-story. And then when the mob came and destroyed the house, the walls were were still up, but they just destroyed everything on the inside. My assumption is that they did that so something like this couldn't happen again. Right.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

And granted, there was a fire, but it seems like it got put out pretty quick because if it was in the kitchen with the 70-year-old woman that's stuck there, she didn't die.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

Right.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

And what they ended up doing is they took all the people that were there, all the slaves, and they put them um in the city building. Oh, okay. So that everybody could come see them. They were like something and cool to watch.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

It's like a freak show.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Yeah, that's exactly what it was like. Oh, that's they literally put them out for everyone to come and see them.

A Cursed Address: Schools And Tenants

SPEAKER_03 30:02

So it's terrible. Not only were I mean I I get uh the nature of things as being us enslaved at that time, but they were enslaved and tortured and humiliated and barely let to live.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

And then put on display.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

And then your sacred your reward for being saved is to like, hey, look at this person who had a spike shoved in their face.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Yeah. For our people to look at this lady, she's got all these maggots all over her. She's got a big old hole in her head, and she's got all these maggots crawling all over her. Let's look at her.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

Yeah. I couldn't even imagine.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

These people were barely alive.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

It almost would have been more humane just to kill them. I hate to say it in the sense, right?

SPEAKER_00 30:47

But like if I can't- I'm sure that's what they would have wanted.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

I can't imagine. Like people have gone through minor traumatic events. Well, minor compared to this, right?

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Right.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

And they can't sleep and they can't even function, but to be tortured for years.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Well, and I'm sure there was a lot of psychological torture too. Oh, yeah. I'm sure it wasn't just physical.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

Well, yeah. I mean, imagine the fact that you've got spikes on your neck and in your head.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

You have to constantly think about, well, if I do this or I do that, or oh yeah, when I get so tired that I can no longer stay awake and I keel over, I'm gonna impale myself on these spikes.

SPEAKER_00 31:25

Well, and then always being afraid that if you did something wrong and you were one of her slaves, that you were gonna go into the attic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

And you don't know what happens in there. You just know that nobody comes back out.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

Yeah, it's frightening.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Like a mess with you.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Yeah. The thing is, they would have had to have slept. They had they would have had to have been allowed to sleep at some point in time because Yes, you would not survive. You will die in a very short period of time if you don't sleep.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

But it's like, do I do I sleep with spikes in my neck? Yes, because that's the only way you're gonna sleep.

SPEAKER_03 32:03

Well, that's what I'm saying. Is that I wonder if like if they did remove the collars every once in a while, type of deal, where it's like, Well, yeah. Like, okay, I'm gonna let you sleep. Here's your just enough to keep you alive. Three hours of sleep in you know, in in 72, so you don't die, and then I'm gonna put this collar back on you so I can play so we can play more games.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Yep. Start over again.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Yeah. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

There's gotta be.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

But it was said that like they tried their own lobotomies. There was there was a person who I think he did do a lobotomy on because he literally had no sense of self, no awareness. I was just blank. So that tells me lobotomies.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Or like major, major mental issues.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

How many type threes do you think are running around in that building?

SPEAKER_00 33:05

Well, if the house was never cleansed or anything like that, then I would say that place was probably covered.

SPEAKER_03 33:12

Yeah. Just because you know their activity was a drawing them in. So there'd be multiple just hanging out with that alone.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Acts like a beacon.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:23

Well, and for a really long time, this this house went from one thing to the next, to the next, to the next, to the next. And I bet I didn't even uncover all of it.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

Oh, I'm sure. So and the fact that the teachers were writing about it in their journals. Yeah. Yeah. That the things that were happening to these girls.

SPEAKER_03 33:42

Like Well, and I have no doubt that she's there. That she's playing along too.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

Oh, for sure. She's evil.

SPEAKER_03 33:53

Yeah. Part of me. She's just as sadistic as a three. I mean, she'd be more than happy to do those things.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

Which I mean, for the for the current homeowner, I really hope that they took care of that business.

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SPEAKER_00 34:10

I and I honestly I bet they did, because the fact that nobody is allowed in, it's kept in his name, and it's been a private residence for long enough that he would have been spooked out by now if it was still around.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

Is it Zach? It's Zach, right?

SPEAKER_00 34:31

It is not. Good old baggins. I'm guaranteeing if it was his, he'd let everybody in.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

Oh, he would. It'd become the next museum.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Mm-hmm. So this house is actually on a corner. On a busy corner. And so people, because they're not allowed in anymore, they'll walk by and they'll feel just the heaviness when they walk by. Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_03 34:56

Well, even if there aren't spirits there in the in per se, I mean, still the the energy of what's happened will still be so much residual.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

So much residual energy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

I would be shocked if the person that does own that place doesn't have anything happen. I honestly would be shocked. I would be surprised for sure.

SPEAKER_03 35:23

Definitely. Maybe we can go there and then knock on his door and say, hey. Can we come in? I got cookies. I've got old Dutch pickle chips.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

But not everybody understands. How good those are. So.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

But if you know, you know.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

Right. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 35:52

They're freaking delicious.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

Um, well, everybody, if you enjoyed this, please uh please like and subscribe. And have you ever been to this uh mansion? Maybe not in it, but have you seen it? Have you experienced some of the energy that's on the street? Let us know. And as always, stay ghosty, my peeps.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

It's it's a floater. Uh okay. We have that on there.