A Haunted South Carolina Plantation With Civil War Scars

A quiet dirt road, a beautiful old house, and a history that refuses to stay buried. We head to Fonti Flora Plantation in Blair, South Carolina, where even the basic facts feel unsettled, including conflicting accounts of when the home was built and why so many sources disagree. From there, the story opens into a classic haunted plantation timeline: enormous acreage tied to a dowry, generational losses that literally gamble the land away, and Civil War damage that still leaves physical scars, including a fire started in the parlor and reports of charred walls hidden behind furniture. 

We also talk through the deeper layers that make paranormal locations feel heavy: arrowheads turning up after rainstorms that hint at Indigenous history, family members dying inside the home across decades, and the sad disappearance of stillborn grave markers that once stood near the house. We don’t skip the hard topics either. Plantation history always includes slavery, and we wrestle with what it means to hear claims of “better treatment,” how oral histories shape what survives, and what’s left undocumented. 

Then the haunting claims take over. We share reports of a violin playing in the attic that stops the moment someone approaches, doors pulled shut from the other side, and a documentary investigation that leans on familiar paranormal investigation tools like EVPs, a spirit box, and SLS mapping. The most unsettling turn is the Hat Man conversation, including our take that this presence may be personal and targeted rather than tied to a single haunted location. If you’re into haunted history, ghost hunting evidence, and the psychology of fear, you’ll have plenty to chew on. 

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Transcript

Welcome To Paranormal Peeps

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Between the realm of the dead and the journeys of the living, join Josh, Jamie, and Elisa as they delve into the vast world of the paranormal and breathe life back into the history of the departed.

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Hey everybody, welcome to the Paranormal Peeps Podcast. I'm Josh.

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I'm Jamie, and I'm Elisa.

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And Jamie, what are we talking about today?

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I don't know why you think I always gotta do something.

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I mean, you don't have to, but it is your it is your episode, so it would be preferable you do a little something.

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Okay, well, in that case, I did throw something together.

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Perfect. So we got like 30 seconds? 45? Is it a clip?

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Maybe five minutes. A little snippet.

Fonti Flora Origins And Conflicting Build Dates

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A little snippet.

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Okay, so well, mine is on Fonti Flora Plantation. Fonti Flora? Fonti Flora.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Flora. Okay. I was like Fonti Florida.

SPEAKER_03 0:53

Fonti Flora, what? It means fountains and flowers.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Oh cute.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

So um, so this was this house was actually built in the early 1800s. So now I've seen conflicting things. So I watched something of one of the um descendants of the family talking on record, saying that a lot of people report it built in like 1836, but it was actually built in 1808. Now, everywhere I've looked, it says 1836. Go with that. So you know what? I'm just gonna say it was built in the early 1800s.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

How do you get a 28-year gift?

SPEAKER_03 1:31

I don't know, but see, here's the thing. The one I watch is coming straight from the owner's mouth, and it's been in his family since like the early like 1700 and something, eight early 1800s. It's been in his family. Like, you know, a lot of these places change families.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

No, his is the same to this day. And what is he saying? He's saying it was built actually built in 1808.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

Well, then I would feel like that would probably be the most correct.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Yes, but I tried to look and you know go a little bit deeper, and everything is like 1836, 1836. But he was like, no, a lot of people say it was built, you know, later, but that's when the tornado happened, he said.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

And I'm like, it was probably maybe like a rebuilt or an add-on that they did on the house, maybe?

SPEAKER_03 2:24

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

That's what I was hoping to come across. Some explanation as to why there's such a huge difference.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

Maybe the issue is the county records were wiped out by the tornado.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I didn't even find any indication that there was a tornado, but he says there was a tornado in 1836 that ripped through there. Hmm. I don't know. And that's straight from the owner's mouth. So I'm like.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

That re- I'm sorry. I don't do a whole lot of movie references or TV references, but this reminds me straight out of a Simpsons episode with the hurricane, where they're like, Well, there's no record of a hurricane ever hitting Springfield. And it's like, Well, yeah, but mysteriously, in in in 1908, the the Hall of Records was blown away.

SPEAKER_03 3:19

Oh, it's a mystery. Okay, so built in the early 1800s in Blair, South Carolina. The architecture style is a cross between Gothic Revival and Greek Revival. It's actually a really nice home, which I I will post pictures.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Does anyone know what the differences between the two are?

SPEAKER_03 3:41

No.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

Okay. Look, I don't either.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

I don't either. But if you want to know, go look it up. Um the house was built by du uh Dr. George Butler Pearson and his wife and his wife, Elizabeth Alston Pearson. Now, the Alstons, which is her maiden name, her family was the first family in the county.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Oh wow.

Dowry Land And The Poker Loss

SPEAKER_03 4:06

So they settled it. Yes. So, anyways, um him and her got married, and the land the house is built on was the dowry that he got for marrying her. It was Elizabeth's dowry.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

What a dowry.

SPEAKER_03 4:23

Yeah, it was 3,000 acres. 3,000 acres. 3,000 acres. What would I be worth?

SPEAKER_02 4:30

How many acres would I be worth? I mean, you get to pretty much claim as much as you want, I guess, right?

SPEAKER_03 4:37

Huge.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

3,000 acres. I couldn't even imagine. Is that part mountain by chance? I don't think so, huh? No, I've been just flat as a pancake. Yeah. Um, originally there were 3,000 acres. Then in 1927, 1,500 acres was lost in a poker game by the current owner's great-great-grandpa, who went back the next night thinking he was gonna win it back, and he ended up losing another 300 more acres.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Whoa!

SPEAKER_03 5:10

So a considerable amount, over half. Like 1,800 acres. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

So you went.

Sherman's Troops Loot And Light Fires

SPEAKER_03 5:17

I would be so pissed. Yeah, I would be too. Well, and then today, I think what's remaining of it is still quite a bit. It's like I think 600 and some acres, I believe, is what's left to do. It could be 1,200 acres. Well, no, I mean they're what's left is 600 and considerable amount. It's still a lot. Still a lot. So during the Civil War, while the all the able-bodied men were out fighting, um, all the women went to a sister plantation in Alexandria, Virginia, because it was a more neutral area. So it was safer, you know. Yeah. Um it was only leaving behind like some servants and this really elderly gentleman that was just too old to fight. They were the only ones that were left on the plantation just to kind of maintain it and whatnot. So then a division of Sherman's army under Culpatrick came and camped out at the Fonti Flora plantation. So they kind of took it over. Um they ended up killing all the livestock on the property, right? And they ate off all the fine china that was in the house.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Rude.

SPEAKER_03 6:33

And even to this day, you can still find pieces of that china in the pastures and fields. Oh, whoa. So basically they just come in, destroyed things, uh, killed the livestock, ate off the plates, and then like threw the plates on the ground.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

They commandeered everything they could.

unknown 6:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

See, and that's why it it's like so disgusting to me when people treat other people's things like that. Yeah. It's like they have zero lack of respect for anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:03

They have no respect. So, and so after all this, and after they camped out, uh, before they left, they ended up setting the house on fire. Um, and the fire started in the parlor of the home. And to this day, behind one of those bookshelves, you can actually see the charred wall. Jeez.

SPEAKER_00 7:22

So I am guessing then that Sherman's army was from the north.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Yeah, you know, it doesn't even specify, but yes, I mean that kind of goes without saying, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:33

Yeah, because it's like at first it's like, okay, well, okay, so the Confederate army was there, they needed to eat, so they killed the livestock. They needed something to eat off of, so they ate off the plates. Okay. Rude, but then they set it on fire. But then they set it on fire. I'm like, yeah, that is not the South doing that to themselves.

SPEAKER_03 7:52

Yeah. But the servants that were there uh were able to extinguish the fire. Good thing they were there. Yeah, thank goodness, right? So they were ever able to get ahead of it before it spread. And they were able to put it out, and so the house was actually still standing, mostly intact, obviously, um, when the men came home from the war.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

Which is always good because back in those days, when stuff like that wouldn't ha happen, plantations were destroyed, they were just burnt to the ground.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

So this was really rare for the people that stayed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Well, also like surprised that they survived. I mean, I'm surprised that they weren't killed off.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

I'm I'm guessing, if I had to guess, I would guess that they probably used the servants to probably prepare their food for them and whatnot. And so they didn't, yep.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

They looked at them as not a threat, but or yeah, or they're like, look, we're not fighting you, we're fighting the army.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

So I doubt I doubt, I highly doubt for as disrespectful as they were. Yeah, why would they care?

SPEAKER_03 9:01

They didn't care about anything else.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

Yeah, but you're also remembering that these this is a time when you had opposing armies sitting across from each other on the battlefield having singing duels at night. Yeah, they would they would camp or on the each other's side of the battlefields in clean sight of each other and not do anything until morning.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

So it was a it was just such a different time.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

Right, but also with the disrespect that they have for the house and their belongings, I don't know. Well, I honestly think that they probably were like, We're gonna use this to our advantage.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

Yep. And they killed the livestock. Now I don't think it was just for foodists. From what I'm gathering, they just killed all the cre creatures, all the livestock, whether they ate it or not, or just killed it.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Because I'm sure I'm sure a lot of it was like, we don't want you to succeed. Yeah. We don't want you to do well for yourself. So we are gonna destroy everything that we can so that you cannot. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

So there is also actually evidence of a g indigenous people being on the property. Um, and often after like a really good rainstorm, when they're walking out there, they can find arrowheads. Oh, I bet.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

That's so cool.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

Yeah, they find lots of them. So if the plantation itself lacks any like specific documents of any tribes that might have been there, but the border region um in South Carolina was historically inhabited by the Cherokee, the Catawaba, and the Cusabo. Cusabo, Cusabo.

SPEAKER_00 10:47

Okay. I've only heard of one of those.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Cusabo, right?

SPEAKER_03 10:52

Yeah. No. So there's there's a lot. I mean, and I'm sure there's more histories. So, like uh the current owners, like great-great-grandpa died in the downstairs bedroom. Okay. Um, I think he had like a heart attack or something, and he died in that bedroom. And then his great-great-grandma years later had like a upset stomach, and she went to bed and she died. And then his grandfather, like in 1987, um, died from a massive stroke at the bottom of the stairs. Jeez.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

Yeah, so there's been death there, obviously, and it goes beyond that too. Like, there's more death because back in those days, like most people died in their house. Yes, but back in those days, you had a lot of stillbirths. Right. Okay, so now out front of this plantation house, kind of over by these boxwood trees that they have, there used to be a bunch of little grave markers for all the stillborns. Oh, over the years though, like over the decades and stuff, I think uh he said that people have come in and taken them. Which is sad in itself. And met I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Why people are weird. If it's it's one thing to like move it to like a cemetery or something like that, but to it doesn't sound grave rob? Yeah, it's it sounds like they're taking the markers, the headstones. Are they grave robbing or just the headstones?

SPEAKER_03 12:25

Just the headstones. That's awful. Yeah, yeah. So there are like stillborns, and they really do believe that there are like some of they were slave owners, you know.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Right.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

Um, and of course there's deaths there. And so they while none of the family is actually buried on the property, they're in the Monticello Cemetery, uh, which is really close by. Um, but they do believe that they did bury um some of their slaves back there.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

That would make sense.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

I think that was pretty typical.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

Yeah, pretty pretty typical. And yeah, and their the the death rate would be undocumented.

Slavery Accounts And Ada's Folk Magic

SPEAKER_03 13:07

Yep. Yep. So when I on the video that I watched, uh it's a Robert Vickery who is the current resident on the property and a descendant of the Pearson family. There was also a little house on the property where one of his uncles lived. I don't think it's there anymore, but it was just a smaller house, and his uncle actually passed away in 2005. So it could have been like slave quarters or something. It was, yeah. Yeah, they had one building that was slave quarters. Well, they built houses for their slaves on the property. They actually treated their slaves well. Which I love. Um, because you don't hear of that very often.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Well, yeah, you know, it's an interesting concept because it's like how I mean, because if you think about it, they were, I mean, they were still labor, right? Yes. And they still were going to be, you know, harvesting and doing the things that you needed done on the plantation. So I honestly wonder how much we think of poor mistreatment of slaves as the norm and not the exception.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Because it's like if you abuse your tractor, then it's not going to work for you. And I think it the same can be said about people, right?

SPEAKER_03 14:35

But not every owner of slaves looked at it that way. They just looked at it as like, I'll get more.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

Well, and this is true. And that's the question I have is like historically speaking, do we have our understanding correctly, right? Because I look, I mean, my understanding of most of the stuff that's happened was from the series roots. Okay. Just growing up in North, you know, growing up in North Dakota. So it's like that's that's all I'm saying. That's all that's my my ponder for that part.

SPEAKER_03 15:10

Right. Well, so, anyways, his great-grandfather, he actually treated his slaves very well. And he even penned a letter um saying he was worried about his Negro friends because of their use of tobacco, because they like tobacco and they were heavily using it.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

Right.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

And he was worried about them because they were so heavily using it that he was and he calls them friends. So he he had a soft heart towards his help.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:39

He, you know, he built them homes, and a lot of his, you know, slaves, even after, you know, they could be free, stayed. And their children, some of their children stayed because they were treated well.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

That's awesome. And taken care of.

SPEAKER_03 15:57

And more of a job instead of well now, so they did they did harvest cotton, they did pick cotton, but their cotton field was very small. It wasn't like this massive, it was very minute. Like it wasn't much of anything.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Then what did they raise?

SPEAKER_03 16:15

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

Well, maybe it was just maybe it was livestock. Maybe that was the piece to it, right?

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Yeah, it didn't, it it didn't actually say. It's harder than you think to find outside of a certain box of information on this place. It's really hard to find anything that goes any further. So a lot of these things that I'm telling you about now, I got from a 10-minute clip of the owner talking about it. And, you know, he knows the history because it was passed down from like his great-great-great grandfather to his great-great-grandfather to his grandfather. Yeah, and it was just passed down, and so he has all this and like photos and stuff of them, and where you can't find it anywhere else. So I looked.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

That's where you meet.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

So between 1991 and 1997, the family had a caretaker that was living in the house, and on multiple occasions he would hear a violin that was being played up in the attic.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

So when he would get to the top of the stairs, just below the attic, right below the entrance to the attic, it would all stop.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Why does it always stop?

SPEAKER_03 17:35

I don't know. It's like they're like, shh, somebody's coming.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

See, and that's interesting because remember I've told you the story of the three girls that I heard in my room. Yeah. They in the middle of the night, I woke up to them giggling, and then one of them goes, Shh, she's awake.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Oh, jeez.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

And then and nothing.

SPEAKER_03 17:56

Yeah. So then after it would stop, he'd be like, eh. So he'd walk back down the stairs, and once he got to the bottom of this those stairs, it would resume playing. Of course. Frustration. That is so frustrating.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

I'd be like, come on, guys, I just want to hear you play. It's like, how many times can you go up and down those stairs? Yeah. Or like sneakily trying to not make a sound.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

That's when they're like, hey, keep doing it. He needs his exercise.

SPEAKER_03 18:26

Right? He needs to go up and down the stairs more. So that same caretaker during that time had a 42-year-old daughter, and she came to visit from Texas. And a number of things, she experienced a number of things. Like one, she would go to open a door, and as she was like pulling the door open, something would pull it back out of her hand from the other side.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Oh, trippy.

SPEAKER_03 18:50

Yeah. So I mean, that would that would unnerve you a little bit. So, um. And then she would also state that there were things that moved around that didn't even make any sense. Now she doesn't elaborate on this. She just says things were moved around that made no sense. So she never came back. She refused to come back. She was so petrified. Especially with like, I mean, I think if I were to take a door handle and go to pull open a door, whether it was a closet door, a bedroom door, or whatever, and something from the other side forcibly yanked it back out of my hand. Yeah, I don't know if I would go back either. Yeah. Or if I would want to sleep there.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

That would be a little tough.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

If you're a guest there and you have a choice of not staying there, right? I can see why she wouldn't.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

Yeah, so they didn't have a lot of slaves. So they had like a few slaves. Most of their slaves that they had worked in the home. Cleaning, cooking, right? Right. And then they had like a couple that helped with the like stuff around the house outside and the land. Um, it was very minimal because their cotton field was very small.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

That's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 20:11

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

Well, it's just it's like you have this massive property, right? 1,200 acres now, because someone lost 1800 gambling. Um but you do very small amounts of actual like farming of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

Well, off honestly, too, though, you don't have the expenses of the land like you do now.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

So it would be easy just to say, hey, let's let a thousand of those acres just sit while we actually use a couple hundred of the acres.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Let's do what's let's do what's manab manageable. Right. So let's not like use all of it, but it's still ours. Yeah. So we can hunt or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

You know, whatever you need to know. Yeah. So, but like I said, a mo a majority of their slaves actually stayed on the property, and then a few of their children stayed. They had a cook and um they called her Cookie. Oh, cute. This little woman called Cookie. Um, but you know you're gonna get good food. Right? Dang good food. So, anyways, so the owner's oldest brother um was actually partially raised by Ada, who was one of the children of a former s former slave, and she lived in a house at the back of the property up until 1969. And Ada was known to walk the plantation grounds, and she was actually, I mean, they'd see her. She knew it like the she could walk it with her eyes closed. She knew it so well, and she was really tied to the land and the surroundings. Um, and she was thought to practice a bit of the voodoo, and she was like a medicine woman, and it was something that they say was most likely kind of passed down from her family.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:13

I mean, I think it was more common.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Back then. But yeah, she she raised his eldest brother and until she passed away in 1969, and that's really cute, you know.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

So she was there for well, sounds like her whole life.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

Can you imagine being born and staying in the same place your entire life? Never leaving?

SPEAKER_00 22:38

No. But it happens so much. I mean, you look at people and they're like, they're like, I am sixth generation in this town, and you're like, your town is 500 people.

SPEAKER_03 22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

Why would you stay? But they do.

Spirit Box Names And A Stabbing

SPEAKER_03 22:59

Well, okay, so now for more of the ghost stuff. So I watch a documentary, the only one I could find on this place. And yeah, I had to subscribe to a new thing. In order to watch it. And pay$4.99 in order to watch it. I tried to look where like they were like, oh, you could check on Amazon, you could rent it for like maybe five bucks. Not there. I went through everything, not there. This was the only place I could find it. But I watched it and I found it really interesting. I was actually really impressed with like the first few minutes of this thing. So this team of investigators, there's four of them. And three of them are older, probably late 40s, 50s, right in there. Okay. Our age. Not a young buck. Not young, right? And they had experience and they're pretty mellow down to earth, right? And they go in during the day and they're asking like questions. And so there's a record of two men. One was named John, one was named Jacob. One killed the other. So they go in there and they're like, Who are the two spirits that fought on here and one killed the other? And you hear through the EVP, you hear or through the uh spirit box, you hear John. And then you hear Jacob. Whoa. And I'm like, okay, okay, that's pretty cool. So they're like, How how did you how did you kill? I I think John killed Jacob. And I think Jacob was the worker. And they're like, How did you kill him? And he goes, stabbed. And so then the one investigator pulls out like his pocket knife. Yeah. And he opens it up. And he's like, you stabbed him with like a knife, like this, and the um spirit box spits out bigger. Whoa. And he's like a a big knife, right? And so then they pull out their SLS. Yeah. And they're looking around, and there's like this anomaly. Okay. So like a person. Like a figure. Yep. It was a figure of a person. And then they're like, show us what you did to him. Right? Yeah. And so then this other figure appears next to the first one. And it looks like the first one is stabbing the other one. And then you see for like just like a second, maybe two seconds, there's a figure laying on the ground.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

What?

SPEAKER_03 25:40

And then it disappears.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

Yeah. And so then they're like, well, did you kill him out front or did you kill him out back? And the spirit box spits out back. Like these were so like it was answering every question they threw at it. Whoa. Accurately. And so I was like, I was really impressed with this. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be so good. That is impressive. So that was actually pretty dang cool. Um, and then they have there's like these two old dolls in one of these rooms, and one looks like it's got a bullet hole in its head. Oh gosh. Right? And those dolls have been known to move. And they, you know, they asked, Well, were the dolls here when you were here? And the answer is yes. Right. And then the owner, he had said that one of his buddies, because you know, they like hunt on the property, like friends of the family will come and hunt on their property. And he's like, My friend came and stayed here, and we were, he's like, um, he's like he was sleeping upstairs in a bedroom, and he's like, and something kept like poking his feet, playing with his feet, and he goes, He thought it was me until he woke up and saw that I wasn't anywhere in there. And he's like, Now anytime he comes to the property to hunt, he stays out front in a tent. He won't come in the house. So I thought that was pretty funny. But I mean, if you want to watch that documentary, it's on um Scare Network TV. Um, I found it pretty good. Um, especially the first part of it. And they also have some different like equipment and some techniques that are kind of interesting. Um, that would be interesting to kind of try.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:28

So, but I'm trying to think. There was more. I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

It definitely sounds like this place has not been investigated a lot.

SPEAKER_03 27:43

You know, it doesn't sound like it, and I don't know if the family actually is living in there or if they like rent it out. That's something I never got around to looking up.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Um, but you know, like I said, it's been in his family for a very long time.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Yeah, a lot of these plantation buildings now have become almost museums.

Hat Man As A Personal Target

SPEAKER_03 28:09

Yeah, and I think in a way, this is kind of that along those lines, in a way. Um, it's actually kind of off the beaten path. Like when you first start watching like the documentary and stuff, it's like on this little two-lane dirt road that just kind of winds back into the trees a bit. Like there's nothing else around it. Like there's some grassy area, and then there's like a bunch of trees, and um, in the documentary, they actually go out into the woods and investigate a little bit as well. Um, but it it is kind of fascinating. I would like to go investigate it because of the history alone, and I think like they say there's hauntings in the house. Like the owner says that uh they have a hat man there, and we've heard of the hat man. Right. Um, I really do believe that the hat man is a demon. I agree. Um, I fully believe that. Um, because even the owner said he had an experience and he's seen the hat man, and he says um his bed came up off the ground, like not a lot, not like what you see in the movies where it's orally exaggerated, but it lifted off the ground and just shook violently and scared the crap out of the owner. Like, of course.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

But think of the energy needed to put a bed up.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Whether it's even just the end of the bed, right? And shake it. I mean, you're talking about someone being in the bed. So let's say the guy weighs 180 pounds.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

Like you're lifting 220 pounds off the ground because of the bed frame and stuff. That's impressive for a spirit to do that.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

It is. Yeah. But I found it to be a neat documentary, and and there's a lot. I think there's a lot more if you want to dive more into it. Um, when I looked, um, I kept coming up with the same stuff that I've told already. Like repeated things.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Do they have on the property slave quarters that are still there?

SPEAKER_03 30:10

You know, it doesn't sound like it. So they did have one building where like where the uncle was? I think it's where the uncle stayed, and there was a lot, like I guess some bad stuff happened there. They don't go into what it was. There's rumors of like this family secret. Of course. But I don't know how valid that is or if that has if there's any truth to it. You just don't know. Um, but they ended up leveling that building, and I think the slave quarters as well.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

The reason why I ask is um we watched a handful of episodes of Ghost Brothers, and they did a plantation, but it wasn't Myrtle, they did a different one that it I don't remember what the name of it was, and they had slave quarters on property. Right. So I was wondering if maybe just by chance they did that one.

SPEAKER_03 31:05

Well, I don't know. It depends. How long ago did the Ghost Brothers do it versus when this documentary was made and all that? I mean, I really I really don't know.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:14

But they did end up tearing down the one building just because they said there was some really dark and bad things coming from there, and it really scared uh the family, and so they had it leveled.

SPEAKER_02 31:27

Which I think in the Ghost Brothers episode, there is a building to the side that they said evil stuff happens in there. Yeah. I'm pretty sure in that. Yeah, it totally could be.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

So maybe they did that. We'll have to go back and check that one out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

Also, also, though, I'm sure there were plenty of plantations.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Oh, there were there were lots. Right?

SPEAKER_02 31:52

And I'm sure there was plenty of family secrets that happened in those little buildings. I'm sh like, I am sure that's not the only one. Oh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:02

Hands down.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

Right?

SPEAKER_03 32:04

So I think there's a multitude of things inside those walls that have kind of soaked in.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Well, and also I think if um, and I think it's in the Ghost Brothers one, if I'm correct, that they were thinking that there was voodoo being practiced inside that could have been building. Yeah. And that maybe voodoo dolls were found or something along those lines. Yeah. I could be totally thinking about a completely different episode of completely different ghost hunting thing.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

I'd be interested to see if it if it is. If it correlates. We should look. Well, yeah, they also got like an EVP that says cookie, and they have that cookie that they call cookie.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

So yeah. Well, and what would be cool is going to a place like that, you're not gonna have any outside noise. Oh, heck no.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

No, there's nothing close enough by to have that outside noise. Like it is back there.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Right. So you're gonna get clear audio. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

That would be n that what is that like?

SPEAKER_02 33:14

I know. You could actually start at any time you wanted. You wouldn't have to wait for traffic to die down. Nope. Or anything like that.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

Well, and like I said, these guys started all off their investigation in broad daylight, and they got the most impressive responses at that time.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

See, and people think that we only investigate at night because it's spooky. Nope. No, we do it for multiple reasons, and one of the main reasons is we don't want to contaminate our evidence with outside noise. Right. And there's less of that because there's less people out and everything else at that time. Yeah, and the later you go, typically the quieter that it gets.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

That's right. Yep. So and that's the main reason that we investigate at night.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

Yes. But you can find some amazing stuff during the day. Just because the lights are on doesn't make a difference. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

So I had I've seen shadow balls in the middle of the day. Yeah. On a beautiful sunny day. So it does happen.

SPEAKER_03 34:16

It does. But this this is a place I would like to go as well, just because it's out there, there's a lot of acreage. Uh, you know, there's I'm sure it's beautiful land. Oh, it's gorgeous. Um, you know, civil war, air age. It's seen so much.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

And I love the fact that the slaves were treated well. So I think for the most part, it's gonna be, it would be a pretty calm, yeah, fun investigation. Yeah. Like there is a different feel when things have been when people have been treated badly, or a lot of murder has happened, or you know, whatever. You get that bad energy generally. Oh, of course. But if you can get a good place like this where it's wholesome and it's like people are treated well, yeah. And yeah, people died, but it's not like they died of horrible, murderous deaths. I mean, there was the one.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

Well, yeah, there was the one stabbing, and then wherever this hat man comes in. Um, but I've only heard one actual report on him.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

Which could be because of the person.

SPEAKER_03 35:19

Yeah, it's soundplace. But it sounds like he wanders around the outside of the house, from what I read.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Well, so yeah, and if there was something like voodoo being practiced on the property, was it kind of a conjuring that happens on the outside, you know, that because of the way the other energy is on the inside of the building, he's not able to enter.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

And maybe, well, but see, the voodoo part with Ada, who raised his eldest brother and then passed away in 19 or, you know, 1969. Right. I don't think she was like, if she was practicing, she wasn't more like a medicine woman, but if she was practicing voodoo, honestly, I don't know that her intentions were bad with it. Maybe she wanted the property trying to like protect. Right, but and maybe that's why the hat man can't.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Could be, but she learned too. So she learned from somebody else.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

That's true, but they describe her as such a loving, motherly, you know.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

But you never know, people get angry.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Well, right, they do. What if it's fifth gener sixth generation voodoo?

SPEAKER_02 36:36

Who knows?

SPEAKER_00 36:36

You know, and then who knows? Because it's all got to be learned from somewhere, and so maybe the very first one was more honri because there was, you know, pre-Civil War.

SPEAKER_03 36:47

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

And then who knows?

SPEAKER_03 36:49

It's entirely possible, like, but we we just don't know. Right. We just don't know.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

I will say this though. I have had my own personal experience twice with the Hat Man. Really? Twice. And from my own personal experience and from the experiences that I've heard from other people who have had experiences with the Hat Man, it is very personal. It is not a location thing. Right. It is a person that is there that is So tied to an individual. So in my personal opinion, I would say that it is whoever was there was the target. Right. I don't think it's the place in general. I think it's the person that it's going after. It is very personal based. Right. It's not based on the property. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:39

That makes total sense. Well, and that's that we've we've always we've talked about that too, right? Is it the is it the property? Is it the place? Or is it the person? Right? Because it can be all three.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

But I think for the hat man, I think it's the person.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

The person.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

Because a demon it to that nature is not going to hang around a property just for the heck of it. Right. That has a positive energy. He's there on business. He's there on business. He's got a plan, he's got something to do. Yep. And that's why the people have experiences that they do with the hat man. It's very personal.

SPEAKER_03 38:15

Yeah. But you never know. And you know, and there's more, but I do highly recommend watching the documentary on uh Scare Network TV.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Do you remember what it was called?

SPEAKER_03 38:26

Yeah, Fonti Flora.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

Oh, okay.

unknown 38:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:29

That's it. Fonti Flora. Look it up, it'll be right there. It's like an eight-hour and eighteen-minute documentary.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

Um are you watching the live investigation? Not live, but are you watching the entire investigation?

SPEAKER_03 38:41

Um or a documentary, I guess. Like Yeah, they show you bits and pieces. It's not really cut up though, so you get good pieces, so you don't feel like you're skipping around too much.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

That was that is.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

They give you some of the history, all the things.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

So it's amazing how much flow makes a difference on enjoyment of a paranormal documentary.

Attic Prayer Moment And Farewell

SPEAKER_03 39:04

Yeah. Well, and then they went up in the attic because two the two guys that started off went up in the attic and they were waiting for the other two guys to get to the location. And they went up into the attic, and there was a woman up there that was asking for one of the investigators that hadn't arrived yet. And she was asking for him to come up to the attic to pray for her. So uh eventually he does go up there and he talks with her, and then he prays for her, and then the response he gets like a female response and a male response, and the male says, You've helped us all. And this is is this over the spirit box? Yeah. Okay. Well, I think so. I don't I don't quite remember. Okay. Um, and then the female, I can't remember what she says, but it sounds like he's like, Well, I hope you go into the light, you know, and and you know, and they're like, Thank you, you've helped us all. And that's way cool. So I I do highly recommend to watch it. I found it really interesting. Um it's a very basic investigation, like it's not a bunch of still cameras, but it sounds pretty detailed. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

I don't think I've ever heard of a situation where a spirit asked to be prayed for.

SPEAKER_03 40:31

This one did. And they asked for the guy by name. I can't remember. I think his name was Sean. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 40:37

It's very interesting.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

Yeah. But I highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_00 40:41

It's intriguing, actually. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:44

Well, you and I can always watch it.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

Yeah, I'm not so sure about the eight and a half hours.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

No, no, no. One hour eighteen minutes. Oh, I think. So you said eight hours.

SPEAKER_00 40:57

Didn't I?

SPEAKER_03 40:57

Yeah. Oh, it's like that. Okay, that's my bad. It's one hour eighteen minutes.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

Oh, okay. That's a totally different moment.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

Much, much more doable.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

You really think I stayed up all night and watched eight hours of that thing?

SPEAKER_00 41:11

I wouldn't put it past you.

SPEAKER_03 41:13

No, I know, but no, one hour, eighteen minutes. I'm sorry. That's my bed.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

Like that was dedication. They didn't edit that thing.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

I think I would have a lot more than just what I'd given if I had watched eight hours.

SPEAKER_02 41:25

I honestly, I honestly was thinking, how does she not remember more of it? Right?

SPEAKER_00 41:29

No, one hour, eighteen minutes. Maybe because it's eight hours.

SPEAKER_03 41:32

And I I was in and out.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

Boy, that's longer than the unedited version of Dances with Wolves.

SPEAKER_03 41:39

Okay, well, one hour, eighteen minutes. Okay. That's doable. And it is really, really good.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Yeah, I'll have to watch it then. Yeah. Sounds good. Well, everybody, um, if I'd like to know, have you guys ever in been to a plantation or investigated a plantation? Because I know there's Myrtles. There's Myrtle and there's there's other ones out there. Um But if you've been, you know, have you ever been to this one?

SPEAKER_03 42:08

I've never heard of this one.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

I haven't either.

SPEAKER_03 42:12

Ever.

SPEAKER_00 42:13

So it'd be interesting to see how many people have actually heard of this location.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

So if you have, let us know. And as always, stay ghosty, my peeps, okay.