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tuned, it gets better."},{"speaker":"REID HOLZWORTH","startTime":1633.85,"endTime":1636.16,"body":"What happens after Google?"},{"speaker":"REID HOLZWORTH","startTime":1636.16,"endTime":1638.38,"body":"How did he found Relatively6?"},{"speaker":"REID HOLZWORTH","startTime":1638.38,"endTime":1639.86,"body":"That's what's coming up next."},{"speaker":"REID HOLZWORTH","startTime":1639.86,"endTime":1642.48,"body":"Stay tuned, it's"},{"speaker":"REID HOLZWORTH","startTime":1639.86,"endTime":1642.48,"body":"really cool stuff."}]}