Bratzline
Bratzline
Episode 99: The Latest Leaks and Fashion Designers with Special Guest Lorenzo!
Welcome to Bratzline! This week, we welcome Lorenzo to the pod! We start the episode going over Lorenzo's history with Bratz, from childhood to adulthood. We then dive in to the latest Bratz leaks, Goin' Out and the Fashion Runwayz Babyz and give our thoughts! We close out the episode discussing fashion designers we'd like to see Bratz collab with, along with some celebrity dolls we'd like to see! I hope you guys enjoy! Thank you so much to Lorenzo for coming on!
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Everybody. Now time to show the whole world what we're all about. We're the girls with a passion for passion, ruperts.
Speaker 2:We'll always be there for each other. Ruperts, styling how we feel, talking about best friends Together, we can do anything.
Speaker 3:We all gotta plan the dream, take a chance and believe, make it real. Hello everyone, I'm just jumping on here really quick before the episode starts to let you guys know that this will be the last episode of 2024 for rat sign. I'm going to take the rest of the month off to enjoy the holidays and we will return in 2025 with episode 100, which is crazy but really exciting. So I hope you guys have a really great holiday season. I will see you in 2025 and I hope you enjoy this episode. Hello everyone, welcome back to Brat Sign, and today we have a new friend of the pod joining us. We have Lorenzo here. Lorenzo, thank you so much for coming on today.
Speaker 4:Hi, thank you so much for having me Of course.
Speaker 3:So this will be fun because I feel like it's been a while since we've had a new friend of the pod join us. And, as always with new people, I like to kind of get your history with dolls, with Bratz. So take me from the top, like, where did it start for?
Speaker 4:you? What does brats mean to you? All that fun stuff, uh, yeah, so I've pretty much played with dolls for like as long as I can remember, um, probably like as far back as like when I was like four years older, like maybe even younger. Um, I have like an older sister who's four years older than me and then a younger brother who's two years younger than me.
Speaker 4:Um, so yeah, even though, like me and my brother were closer in age, I definitely started playing like with toys with my sister first, because I kind of had to, like, you know, like wait for my brother to right age up a bit yeah, exactly, um, and so, yeah, I feel like we just like gravitated towards like playing with dolls and, um, I remember in her room she had like this big toy chest and inside she always kept like her Barbie doll and yeah, that was kind of like some of like my first memories playing with dolls was with like the classic Barbie um, and I even like remember she had um like a whole like wedding set.
Speaker 4:I don't know if it was like an extra, like add-on play set or like um, they came like with those outfits and stuff, but, um, yeah, it was like super exciting and I was like, oh, like they're not like just like like little kiddie type of toys like you can, like you know, reenact like a whole wedding and right, you know, do whatever. So I thought it was really cool, um, and then she also had like some really cool like Barbie play sets. So she had like um, like a sparkly pink canopy bed for her Barbie sounds very Barbie.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, and it had like um, like a crescent moon shaped pillow and like a little like blue cloud pillow. Oh, and then it had like a gimmick. So if you like, press in the center of the bed, um, like the light post of the bed would light up cute um, so it's just like really cool.
Speaker 4:Um, and yeah, for like whatever reason, I feel like I just like always ask for dolls for like holidays or like my birthday, and stuff so um, for like Christmas it was always like um, like being excited about getting like a new Barbie, um, or her, like my birthday and stuff um can I? Can I ask?
Speaker 3:what? What era of Barbie was this? Are we talking like early 2000s? I'm not sure how old you are. Like where are we at with the Barbies at?
Speaker 4:this time, yeah, so I'm 30 right now, so okay, beautiful, we're in the same age range.
Speaker 3:I love it we probably have the same like references in terms of this kind of stuff. Perfect, yeah um, yeah.
Speaker 4:So I kind of like started with like the 90s Barbies, with like, yeah, you know, like the big blue eyes and like the stars in her eyes, um, and like everything pink yeah of course, and then, um, yeah, it's, it's kind of hard for me to like remember like the specific ones I had, but, um, there are like a few that I remember for sure.
Speaker 3:Um that's fair. There's probably a lot of them too, I'd imagine back in the day.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, yeah and sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think like how to transition into well, okay, so you're, so you start with Barbie, I feel like that's kind of at least from my understanding or like my, take a lot of people's gay way into dolls. I just feel like everyone kind of gets a barbie.
Speaker 3:They play with barbies I'm curious now, since we're kind of the same age, like where did brats come into play for you? Was that like when you were still a kid? Was it when they first came out? Because you must have been, I think I was, I must. I was like seven when Bratz first came out.
Speaker 4:I think were you like around that same age yeah, I think I was like around like uh, seven because, um, so we moved to Washington from Arizona in 2001, okay, and I remember I was turning seven then. And then, of course, bratz came out in 2001. Um, and yeah, I remember like our first Christmas of 2001, um, that's like when I was like first introduced to Bratz. So my sister she actually got um all four of like the debut, like the original Bratz.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, yeah. And then, um, so like on Christmas, like what we do, like after opening all our presents and stuff, we kind of just like gravitate towards, um, my sister's room and just like play with all our toys there. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Um, and I can't remember like what me and my brother got. We probably got like some kind of Barbie. But I just remember like what me and my brother got. We probably got like some kind of Barbie. But I just remember like looking over at my sister and she was like playing with her brats and I was like what are those?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And you know like having like an older sibling, like you kind of always like look up to them, yeah, and you know like they kind of always like look up to them, yeah and um, you know like they kind of like set the trends for like the younger siblings. So whatever she had like I was like automatically into and I wanted to. Yeah, um, yeah. So she got like the main four and luckily she like shared her dolls with me and my brother so we could like all play together fun.
Speaker 3:Well, there's four of them, so that kind of also works out. That's also to get the the core four from the jump, I mean that's pretty special that's pretty special yeah, it's like I don't know how that happened but, I don't know.
Speaker 4:I guess my parents were just like in the know, it was just good of all. Yeah, why not? So I don't know if, like my parents, were just like trying to make that more of like a special Christmas, since it was like our first one and like our new home and stuff. Oh yeah, it was definitely like a memorable one because I mean, bratz like ended up being like my favorite toy ever so. I definitely like look back and like, oh, I remember, yeah, when I first ever saw them, which is crazy so.
Speaker 3:So it was Christmas. Your sister gets the first collection ever of the Bratz dolls, all four of them, which again I think is pretty special and you guys are playing with them as siblings. Did you guys do like story, like how deep are these games? Were there storylineslines?
Speaker 4:okay, that's like the funny thing. So, um, yeah, I've heard you talk to like other people you've interviewed and their storylines definitely go way deeper than ours did. I think, yeah, um, I don't know. I feel like like our style of play with dolls was like mostly like dressing them up and then like setting up their house, and then after that I don't know like how we played with them exactly. But, um, I get that though. Yeah, like I don't know, that was like the fun part for us was like dressing them up and then just, yeah, setting up like the scene for them. Yeah, setting up like the scene for them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, putting them in little like tableaus. It kind of reminds me of the way I would play Sims back in the day, like I'd have so much fun like making the Sims and like I wasn't great at building houses but like building the places they live. And then, like once the I'm like I'm bored of this, like I'm done exactly, totally that yeah, yeah, so, okay.
Speaker 3:So it's Christmas and you get these dolls and then the next year is it just obsessed with Bratz, because that really was, like, I mean, the first time Bratz had been on the market and stuff like. And then it's kind of like Bratz mania the past, the couple years after that yeah.
Speaker 4:So I feel like it was like quite a while until, like, I got like my own brat, so I'm pretty sure was flaunted. The second one that came out oh, maybe I don't honestly close enough it was.
Speaker 3:It was in that like first three years I know I, yeah, I. What was it? I think it was like the first edition, and then it was like the beach party, like the bathing suit one maybe, and then I think express it comes at some point I don't know there's one in between that and then it's like express it, the flaunted like. That's like in my mind 2002 kind of like era, and then what was it? It was like all the it ones. It's like express it, flaunt it, style it, maybe a strut it like all those
Speaker 3:girls. Yes, that was when I like I I missed the first couple.
Speaker 4:That's when I got into it during like express it, it's like 2002, I think yeah, like I feel like in a way I still kind of missed out on the first original ones because like those were like my sisters.
Speaker 4:But I'm pretty sure, yeah, in 2002, um, I remember, for like whatever reason, we were like I don't know, just like coursing around, like going through, like my dad's truck and stuff yeah and I I'm pretty sure I could be totally wrong on the timeline, but I think it was like 2002 like around Valentine, valentine's Day, and we found a flaunted Sasha like hidden like behind one of his seats in his car. Really yeah, and we were like what the heck is this Like, what is this for? And we found out it was like a present, like another one for my sister for valentine's day, a valentine's day gift oh my goodness, I know my parents.
Speaker 4:They were pretty cool, like um, they definitely spoiled us like a bit yeah yeah, um, we love that. Yeah, but, yeah, another one for my sister. So still have to wait a while. And then I think I think of like um August 2002. That's when, like I um, I got like my first brats and I'm pretty sure I got wanted Chloe, yasmin and then maybe like one of the og bratz boys oh, okay yeah that's a good lineup.
Speaker 3:That's a good lineup.
Speaker 4:It's a cute collection and the boy too, yeah I think I got I think I got cameron cute cameron.
Speaker 3:Good starting point, a good starter pack exactly like were there characters because your sister had all four of them and you guys were playing with them were there and you know Bratz was known for its like, diversity and the different characters. Was there one doll or character you were you were really drawn to like, oh, I want, I want the Jade dolls or I want the Chloe dolls totally so.
Speaker 4:Um, it seems like I always gravitated towards yasmin okay, and then um, and then, like later on, fiona cute and then, I think, my younger brother. He always like gravitated, gravitated towards Jade and Chloe, for sure Cute. So I think like part of that was like me and my brother were both like half Mexican and I'm like definitely like the darker skin-toned one and like darker hair and my brother kind of just looks like he's white. Um, so I kind of just like wanted a doll that looked more like me.
Speaker 4:I feel like and plus, like back in the early 2000s, you know, being tan was like the popular thing, right. So I kind of like already caught on to that. I was like I want the tan doll.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yasmin was your girl then.
Speaker 4:She was.
Speaker 3:So okay. So what happens after? Flaunted Like, do we just keep collecting them? Are we still playing with them, with your siblings?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, after Flaunted I feel like the floodgates were open. I think my parents like saw how much I, how much I love those dolls and so after that I was just like, um, what we wanted for like every Christmas or birthday, and like if we didn't see like a trapezoid shaped box, like underneath the tree or something we were kind of like upset. We're like yeah, we're like you know which ones are the brads? Like where's the trapezoid box?
Speaker 3:that was always the giveaway.
Speaker 1:The box shape yeah, and it's like I mean, what's the?
Speaker 3:point of this if I don't see that under the Christmas tree, like, cancel Christmas, like what are we doing? Here exactly, yeah did you have any other big standout holiday, like brats gifts, like any grail dolls, or you know at that time that you were like super excited to get that. You ended up getting.
Speaker 4:I don't know I really kept up with like seeing the dolls like advertised. It was always just kind of like a surprise, like a surprise um. But I remember like I think for Christmas, me and my brother, we both got matching the winter ball. Beauty Chloe with, like the red dress, cute, oh, that's fun yeah um, yeah, a lot of times for Christmas me and my brother would get like um the same exact dolls or like gifts, just because my parents thought like it would prevent us from like fighting or being jealous.
Speaker 3:So that's a fair yeah. Did that bother you as as the kid, or did you not care?
Speaker 4:yes, oh my god. Yes, like you know, because, like when you're playing dolls with each other, like if you have the same one, it's not working the same. You kind of like exactly yeah, you kind of want like a unique character. So that was kind of annoying, but like I see why they did it at the same time.
Speaker 3:I see their logic there, but as a kid you're like really Like, come on.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I think, what else Like, what other brats like stood out.
Speaker 3:It's.
Speaker 4:I mean I don't know, we had like basically it's, it's. I mean I don't know, we have like basically, um, we have like dolls from basically like every line. I feel like really we have like 100 so okay, and here's my here's my other question.
Speaker 3:So, like your sister's, four years older than you, you guys are growing up in the brats era. Like, is your sister still into the dolls, or was there a point where she's like I'm too old for this and you were holding, you know, the torch for the family? Like, did that ever happen?
Speaker 4:yes. So I feel like my sister, um, she kind of grew out, grew out of them like fast um. So yeah, there's only like a couple years where we played with like dolls together and stuff and then definitely like me and my brother like took over, yeah, holding the Torture Brats, and that was like our thing yeah.
Speaker 3:And like the only toys that we wanted or played with. That's fair. What about like the movies? Did you guys the tv show? Like we're talking like 2006, you know rock angels starring in style, and even a little earlier than that? Like, were you guys all in on that part of the, the dolls too? Or the brand?
Speaker 4:okay, so for that, for I don't know how, but we totally like missed out on all like the brats media, so I never saw any of the brats movies, sadly, wow not a one not one, I can't believe it?
Speaker 3:did you know they existed at least, or was it just like cut off?
Speaker 4:I'm sure I heard of like when you know some of them came out and maybe I thought I wasn't too old to watch that. But I still like the dolls. So yeah, I don't know like I was watching like a told by ginger and like Hilary Duff, like Lizzie.
Speaker 3:McGuire and right you know, all the Lindsay Lohan like Disney movies stuff of course of course it was peak time for that, so that that makes sense. But have you have you seen them since and, if so, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4:um. So I think I I started watching like starred in silence, uh-huh um, because I no, it's okay, I'm. I'm curious as to why um, I don't really know why.
Speaker 3:I think it just played.
Speaker 4:Um, yeah, I didn't have enough time, but you know what? It's, I'm sure I'll get around to it someday, listen, they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 3:And I feel like it is one of those things like if you, if you don't have nostalgia for it, it can be like hard to get through those kind of things Because you know, at the end of the day, they are kind of made for children and yeah, Like it's if you don't have the nostalgia glasses on for them.
Speaker 4:I can understand how that could be Not on the high of the priority list yeah, I mean I'm sure I'll watch them someday, but yeah, yeah, for some reason I just like totally missed out on all like the Bratz media and like their music and movies.
Speaker 3:So that's so interesting because I like, so like for the rock angels dolls, like did you listen? To the music, or was it just strictly like the dolls for you?
Speaker 4:okay, so for rock angels, I also missed out on that entire line. So I didn't. I didn't get any of those dolls when I was little, okay. But I totally remember, um, my cousin Isabel, she had all of them and she even had like the little like red and black suitcase thing so she could like keep all her stuff together in there like the travel case or whatever it was yeah
Speaker 4:yeah um, yeah, I remember like going to visit family and seeing that she had like everything, and then I think we went down there for like one Christmas and my grandma she actually got um like me and my siblings, she got us all her own um the FM limo, the blue one yeah, that's a great one, yes, so good. Like I remember being like a little bit um like disappointed.
Speaker 4:I was like, oh, like it's not a doll, but then I was like I saw like the quality of, like the car and I was like, oh my god, like this is really nice.
Speaker 3:I know they really don't make them like they used to like. It's kind of insane like the detail and the quality.
Speaker 4:Totally Like the lights and like the working radio. I know.
Speaker 3:It was insane Like oh it just makes me nostalgic. So I'm also curious because you know, since we are in the same age bracket like you know we get older, we're in high school. Are we still with the dolls or are we keeping it a secret? Because, as I said in this podcast before, like I was still playing with dolls when I was like 14, 15, I think. Like, like, were you still into them or were you like I, we're, we're a teenager now.
Speaker 4:Like we gotta let it go um, so there was a point that I let it go, for sure. But um, yeah, like all through elementary I pretty much kept it like a secret, right, I think I brought, like I tried to bring like my dolls to school before, like in elementary school, and just like share with my friends, like I don't know why we did that, but um, and then, yeah, I always kept it a secret. So, like if I had like friends come over, I would like, um, like hide them in the closet and be like no one go in there no, no, don't touch uh-huh, um.
Speaker 4:And then I think definitely I think like around middle school is like when I started getting rid of a lot of my dolls, so like 2006 or 2007, um and I remember like the last two dolls I had one of them was definitely the wild, wild west fiana and then I think I had like a girls night out chloe, cute, I can't remember for sure, but yeah, I had those two dolls and then the blue fm limo, still nice and then at some point I got rid of those two, which I'm really sad.
Speaker 4:I got rid of anything now.
Speaker 3:I know, well, I was gonna ask do you now like look back? You're like why? I mean obviously you're a kid at the time, or like young, so you know it is what it is, but you're like, oh, I could have held on to those. Actually that would have been nice oh, totally.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, my um, my parents are like the type of people to like, never want to get rid of, like anything sentimental that way yes, yeah, and they're like, oh, like, you never know, like one day in the future I appreciate that, because a lot I feel like a lot of parents like get rid of them, like you're not playing with them, we're done but, I look back and I'm like, oh, I would. I don't. I don't know what happened to half my dolls. I mean, some of them got lost. I did have a fair bit, but there's so many I'm like I don't know if we gave them away.
Speaker 3:Then I went to my cousins or something I don't know. But yeah, you like, look back, you're like oh, you know what, we could have packed those up in a box and I could have opened that up oh, totally you know what I?
Speaker 4:think I think like throughout the years, like a lot of ours got badly, like destroyed too, because I found um nail polish and I'd like try to like change like their makeup okay, yep and then that didn't work out. So I think a lot of them just got like destroyed and like thrown away, so like that like dwindled down the collection. But um, yeah, that's definitely by. Like middle school I basically didn't have brats anymore or like any dolls so that that kind of transitioned into my next question.
Speaker 3:So like when? Because I feel like a lot of people kind of got back into dolls or back into collecting, like as an adult, especially like with the pandemic, like was that the same story for you, or how did brats like come back into your life?
Speaker 4:yeah, exactly so. I'm definitely one of those that got back into collecting during the pandemic in 2020. So I was watching like a lot of YouTube at the time, as were a lot of people, and I definitely have to credit Sugar and Spice from Drag Race yes, sugar and Spice from like Drag Race. Yes, because I had watched them for like like several years before that, like three or four years or something before um, and I always love that they like reference, like you know, their childhood dolls and stuff and like um you know, for like their like drag looks and stuff. And then then, yeah, during 2020, I definitely have to credit them for like getting me back into, like you know, it's like okay to collect dolls again. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:They kind of like made it like yeah, okay, and like kind of cool, so yeah.
Speaker 3:It's funny with the collecting because I feel like there's like a weird like age range where it's you feel like self-conscious. It's like that tween teenager, like as a kid, like 10 and under, it's obviously not frowned upon to like have dolls, play dolls, but like 12, to like six, like that teenager, it's like you know, uncool, whatever, it's a kid thing. But then when you're an adult, suddenly it's like okay again, do you know what I mean? It's like wow, like I don't care at this point, like it is what it is, like you're an adult collector, but I feel like when you're a tween you're so like no, no, no, no. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4:oh, totally, yeah, yeah, um, yeah, for whatever reason, like when you're a teen like it's like not cool, um, and you're like to use for it and stuff.
Speaker 3:So like I almost feel like it's more accepted for like people like who are 30 to collect dolls than it is for like a 15, 16 year old, at least back in the day when I was like a teenager, like and I feel like almost you would think it'd be the other way around, like it'd be weird for adults to collect dolls, but obviously it's not. So I don't know, it's just, it's just an interesting thing. I find that it's just again.
Speaker 4:I totally agree, it's being a teenager, though I also think just it's a weird time I feel like it's like changing a bit though too, with like I think so too um, like gen, like gen z, like they don't they don't care like what anyone cares they don't, and I respect them for that.
Speaker 4:I kind of love it they're all about, like healing the inner child and all that jazz and yeah, yeah, I think it's interesting because it definitely was not that way when I was their ages no like millennial generation, like we're still definitely like trying to like fit into like a certain thing, and I feel like Gen Z, like they're definitely more accepting, like they're like oh like dolls are your thing, like who cares?
Speaker 3:like cool and I feel like everyone's so into like obviously like nostalgia and the throwback. So, like you know, recollecting dolls from like the early 2000s is like definitely not like. I even remember when I was a kid, like I think it was maybe like my 11th or 12th birthday, like I was opening presents and some girl who came to the party gave me like a Barbie doll and I was like kind of embarrassed to like and I was like 11 or 12 and I was like I don't know why I was embarrassed to like open this stall in front of people but I don't know.
Speaker 3:It was again at that age where I'm like, oh, I'm like already get in. I was like 11. I'm already thinking I'm like too old for it. But yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad the tides are kind of changing on that whole, on that whole thing me too.
Speaker 4:I think it's like you know, it's like healthy to be like more accepting and just like. Just like like what you like and not like feel shame or like embarrassed about it totally um so, okay, I'm curious, uh, of your um you getting back into breath.
Speaker 3:So it's pandemic. You're watching youtube. What happens there. Are we, are we restarting the collection? Are we getting dolls off eBay? Are we like thrifting, was three productions done at this time? Like what's that all looking like?
Speaker 4:yeah, so I heard about the reproductions about um, the first main, like quarter four um, and I'm just like the type of collector that only collects like the ones that I really want um like, yeah, I don't feel like I need like one of like every single Bratz doll that ever came out.
Speaker 4:Um, yeah, I just get like the ones that are like nostalgic to me or like ones I um always wanted but never got to have. Um, and yeah, just like the ones I think are like really pretty, like screening and like fashion-like. Um, yeah, during 2020, I think I found Dom's like YouTube channel. It's like he was also like one of the people that inspired me because, um, yeah, I think he's like in the same age range as us, right um, I think Dom is he's a couple years younger believer a couple years younger.
Speaker 3:I think 25, 26 or not.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like close enough okay yeah, five years yeah, yeah close enough for me, yeah yeah, exactly um yeah, I don't know, I just feel like really inspired and like um, just wanted something to like, like dive into, to like distract me because I was really bored, mm-hmm, mm-hmm and I don't know. Bratz were like a really huge like part of my life, like they were definitely like my number one favorite brand, favorite toy. Yeah, and.
Speaker 4:I never thought I'd be like a collector, but I was like if I were to collect something like it would definitely be Bratz, because nothing else really made sense. Right. And yeah, mostly I would. I would like be looking on Mercari for um, like the dolls that I wanted um and like a little bit on eBay, but yeah, definitely mostly Mercari. And then I tried Facebook marketplace but for me, like whenever I look, it's always like pretty dead on there yeah, it can hit or miss.
Speaker 4:Depends on your area too, I guess um, yeah, it was like also like a wild time to start collecting because I was also like pretty surprised on like how expensive a lot of the dolls were and they were just like increasing like every day. Yeah, yeah. And now if I found like a doll at the prices that they were in 2020, I'd like feel like immediately buy.
Speaker 3:But I know, isn't it insane? When is the bubble gonna pop you?
Speaker 4:know it has to. That's what I keep asking like how many more years? He increases like so fast.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's crazy I know I was literally. Mind you, this is like not exactly the same. But I was like looking just out of curiosity, I went on ebay and I am in canada, so you know, take that, consider this. But um, I just looked up the mean girls and they had like a katie heron for like a thousand dollars.
Speaker 3:I was like, okay, so we're still here, got it that's totally insane yeah, I was like I I don't know I usually like I have like a set price of like the highest I'll go for dolls um a thousand. Is not that number?
Speaker 4:like I cannot even, like I can't even imagine it yeah, I mean I would like pay a lot for a doll. To be honest, um depends on the doll. Yeah, it depends on the doll like is it like new in box or like is it one that is really hard to find? But I mean I would, I would pay some coin for a doll I really want.
Speaker 3:But Okay, Well, let's. Can we dive into that? Because, like what? So you're back in it. You're looking on my car on eBay. Was there like a list of dolls? You're like, okay, I want this one, this one, this one, Any like real dolls that you got or like are still on the hunt for.
Speaker 4:Totally so. At this point I only have like about like around 60 dolls.
Speaker 3:Okay, I mean, that's a lot I don't like.
Speaker 4:I feel like it's a fair amount. For sure it's a fair amount I.
Speaker 3:But I feel like if you told like someone, not an adult, like a normal person, like they'd be like whoa. Do you know what I mean? Like to us we're like that's a fair amount, but to someone else it'd be like 60?.
Speaker 4:Oh for sure, I told my brother, so I let him know like I started getting like into collecting some brats, and he was like oh, like how many do you have now? Yeah and at the time I didn't have 60 at the time, but I totally lied and I was like, oh, like I have 15. And he was like the look on his face, he was like shook and I was like, oh my god. I was like I'm definitely not he doesn't get it yet.
Speaker 3:Yeah no, it's it's funny because even like, like people I've had people in my life ask me and like I don't know, and again it's like I don't know. My sense of it is warped because I'm like on dolls instagram and I see people's collections but I have like, probably I haven't counted but I'm gonna assume probably close to 100, at least right, and I'll be like, like, like 100 maybe. I think, like maybe like 70 to 100. I'm you know and yeah, they're shook and I'm like that's like.
Speaker 3:I'm like, dare I say, average, I don't know, like I don't know, I think our perception is definitely warped.
Speaker 4:I think it's warped. I don't think it's like a bad thing. No, I mean people, everyone has their things right, that they like to spend money on. Totally, and ours just happened to like get us $100.
Speaker 3:Hey, listen Exactly, that's how it goes. Like again. I don't think that's crazy. But I feel like yeah, the people who aren't like collectors or you know, aren't doll people are kind of like oh, wow, but I'm like, yeah, like yeah, it is what it is. Um, okay, but anyway, back to so what dolls did you end up getting? And like what? Any? Any grails did we?
Speaker 4:get, oh yes, so. So I definitely started with like, um, the ones I really wanted. So the lines I really wanted was like the OG Girls Night Out Great choice. One of, like you know, top tier line like free outfits, the glitter, the eyelashes, again, unbeatable.
Speaker 3:They don't do it like they used to. They couldn't Even the reproductions dropped an outfit no like that.
Speaker 4:That line was definitely like a celebration line for brad.
Speaker 4:It's like totally they were definitely giving us like extras because they were doing so well you know, totally and I don't know why, but like I've always been into like dolls that have like the real eyelashes, like I remember being like a I've always been into like dolls that have like the real eyelashes. Yeah, like I remember being like a little kid and like being at like one of my babysitter's house and she had like a collector Barbie with like real eyelashes and I was just like what Like dolls can have like real eyelashes, like humans, and like she looks like glamorous and like amazing, so glamorous and like amazing.
Speaker 4:So, um, yeah, I definitely tried to like collect the brats with the real eyelashes. First, um, so I got girls night out, and then um, and then wild, wild west, because they had the real eyelashes also.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm trying to think how many collections had real eyelashes? Was it just those two, or was there more?
Speaker 4:I think there's only three, so girls night out wild, wild west, and then the movie the movie.
Speaker 4:That's right, okay, yep, that was the missing one um, and yeah, I also wanted wild wild west because, um, like for nostalgic reasons, since the Fianna one was like the last one I remember owning, I was like I definitely need her again. Um, and also I was kind of surprised to like find out, um, in the community, like the majority of people prefer the dolls without eyelashes, because I always just like assumed, like, um, the dolls with the eyelashes were like, um, like a status of, like quality or like right you know, like the like the Barbie collector dolls that have eyelashes but um, yeah, I don't know it kind of worked out my favor because hey, they weren't as expensive.
Speaker 3:So yeah, um, yeah so and sorry, I just. I know you said you don't like you're not a completionist, but did you just get a couple characters from each line, like like a chloe and then a fiona, kind of vibe?
Speaker 4:so for Girls Night Out I needed them all like. Well, that is one of my favorite lines, for sure yeah if any collection is yeah, to be done with all of them all.
Speaker 3:How many of their five? I think five yeah, because Dana's in there yeah, that's. That's the one to do it validated.
Speaker 4:Um, so yeah, I got them complete, um, but I didn't get them like, um, like, only how like the dolls complete, but for like outfits and accessory wise, obviously I don't have all of that stuff. But right, um, I have Dana still in box, actually the OG one, and then I bought Chloe in box, but then I took her out of the box.
Speaker 3:So well, here's my next question are you are you more in box or out of box when it comes to collecting?
Speaker 4:so I always thought I was like never going to be an inbox collector. But as I've like um you know I'm up to like 60 dolls now I do have a couple I have in box. So sorry, um, I have the Moa Loa dolls in box yes um the OG day, next most night out um I have one of the tokyo gogo um malin malin collector dolls which is your like instagram handle right.
Speaker 4:So is there, yeah, like a big, big favorite okay that that's kind of like a funny story, um, so yeah, so when I was, I've been like a lurker of like the brats community since 2020, um, and then I was talking with like one of my friends on there. Um, you know, candy may doll, she makes a lot of like custom brats clothes oh okay, yeah, yeah, I think I've heard of them yeah, she was like why don't you make an account and like share, like your collection and stuff?
Speaker 4:and I was like I don't know, it's like a lot of pressure and I don't know, but I thought it'd be fun. So I decided to make an account on Instagram and I was like like what would I name my account? And I thought it was like really cute how a lot of people had like their name like referencing different Brad's lines Like I've seen like Class Chloe, yep, and like Flashback, yeah, all sorts of like different lines like that and I just like wanted one that like stood out. Um, and since like Meilin only had like one doll that came out, I was like who better, you know, to like reference and like stand out than have like the doll that there's only, there's only like one release of? So I was like tokyo is like a really amazing line it is and um.
Speaker 4:Someone needs to advocate for maylin, so I'll be that person finally, yep thank you, we got to give maylin her flowers really, though, like you know, I've heard, like you know, she's like a controversial figure in like their brats lineup, but I don't really agree with it. Um, yeah, don't, don't cancel me, but no I think you're fine, that's fine, yeah, um.
Speaker 4:So are there any dolls you're still on the hunt for um so I'm like I'm pretty like satisfied with my collection at this point, honestly, which that's? Like crazy to say honestly, it's a good place to be though yeah, yeah, like I'm happy with like the collection that I have now, um, but probably like the only one that I'm like really on the hunt for is the twins of Krista and Layla. Yeah, I feel like those are hard.
Speaker 3:Are they hard to?
Speaker 4:get. I feel like they are pretty hard to get and I don't even know why, like I don't know if they've never made that many of them, or I don't know because.
Speaker 3:I never really saw them in store. I mean, mind you, I don't know if it's my area again, but like, besides, like the first two waves of twins, like I never saw the Kristen Leland store or like the Wicked Twins, like I don't know yeah, I never remember seeing like the wicked twins or, yeah, kristen leila.
Speaker 4:Um, I feel like there's like a lot of brats that I don't remember seeing um at like my local target where we like used to always get our brats from.
Speaker 4:But, um, yeah, I really like those twins, like they totally remind me of like um the white chicks movie I can see that that's cute um and I just found out um that krista, she has like the same screening style as twins roxy, and then leila has the same screening style as twins Phoebe, just without the beauty marks and like they're actually like, almost like the inverse of like the. Og twins, roxy and Phoebe.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that that's interesting yeah, because they also have.
Speaker 4:Um. Yeah, it's weird that, like Krista, who's kind of like the nice twin, she has the same screening as, like the bad, or, like you know, the bad twin, roxy. Yeah yeah and then the bad twin, layla, has the same screening as the good twin, phoebe huh, which is interesting oh, that's funny.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cute well. I hope you find them um, good luck to you on that journey, because I'm sure it's not going to be easy. But we like to manifest here Fingers crossed one day.
Speaker 3:But I am curious this kind of transitions into what we'll kind of talk about next. But like you're saying you're content with your collection. Right now there's not too many other dolls you want. What about? Like the modern, like current brats, like what do you think of the dolls that are coming out? Do any of them intrigue you in terms of like reproduction? They're always brats and I'm also. I also have a question with the girls. I know because you mentioned how you wanted to get all the girls, I know dolls. How did you feel in the reproductions came? Out, were you like?
Speaker 4:I can do without, or, were you like, into it okay, so I feel so bad for like saying this about the repros of the girls. I know, but they weren't like quite there for me that's fair um, I I don't really have like any complaints about like the clothes and accessories, um, except for I mean they didn't come with like a third outfit, so that was kind of sad right but, um, I was more, just like, not as impressed with, like their screening because um, to me, like all like their lips on the repros looked, you know, significantly smaller.
Speaker 4:I don't know if you noticed that at all um yeah, it's yeah and then also, like your skin tone was still, like you know, a little bit orangey like right. Yeah, they're still working the kinks out with yeah, I mean, they were pretty good, like I, I actually did buy a few of them so I could have like the clothes and accessories, but um, yeah, I wasn't as impressed with, like, the screening.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like they're still perfecting it yeah, it's interesting too, though, I find, because for me, I find um three productions are like well done when they're on their own, but as soon as I put them side by side with the original, I'm like ooh, totally. It's like I don't know, like I know. I think they're not like they used to be. But even like when I got Series 3, fianna and I had the original, like Fianna, I put them side by side, like even the detail in the shirt and the jeans, like is just night and day and again like.
Speaker 3:I think like is just night and day and again like I think like on their own they're totally fine and good, but like nothing can compare to the original, unfortunately. That's why I kind of think of them as separate dolls, almost like yeah, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 4:Um, yeah, I don't know. I I know like a lot of people are happy to like have the repro, so I'm happy for them, but to me, I, I like I can see the small little changes and I'm just like the OGs are the ones for me yeah yeah, no, that's totally fair.
Speaker 3:It's a shame they're hard to get, but if you can. I mean I, yeah, I would. I would pick an OG over every pro, probably any day of the week um what about, like the new rats lines, like we have always brats, a couple of the collector ones, like I know?
Speaker 4:you mentioned mololo earlier do any of those interest you oh yeah, so um, I got all the new. Always Bratz, I would say I love the Chloe.
Speaker 3:She's my favorite.
Speaker 4:I feel like everyone loves the Chloe, like she ate everyone up yeah, she did, but I don't know. I feel like nostalgia definitely plays a part in like how I feel about the doll lines, like I'm excited for the new lines but, um, all these the always brad's line still wasn't totally there for me yeah um, I love like Yasmin's outfit.
Speaker 4:Um, I like their screenings for the most part, um, but I feel like their lips were just like a little bit too too big. Um, and I think they're still. They were using like the uv head molds for for the always brats, right, I'm not sure, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3:Honestly, the stuff I can't, I don't know, I'm a little I don't. I probably could. I honestly haven't like dug that deep into the lore behind the head molds. I know there's a bit, there's a difference. What's the difference?
Speaker 4:Okay, so from what I understand the UV head molds, they're a little bit bigger and then also, like, the features of the head mold are like a little bit less defined. Okay, yeah, so like the cheeks are, yeah, they're like not as rounded, or yeah, just like all like the curves, like the actual like sculpt of the head.
Speaker 3:It's just like less defined and bigger got it okay and people we don't like it right. Is that the consensus? We're not no, no, guys, we don't, collectively, we don't like it, right, we don't like it we don't like it yeah okay I have to look into it more because I know people complain about it and I honestly I'm kind of like blinking, like what, what are we talking about? But yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I swear like if I put them side by side, like like when I put um like gcds Sasha next to um, even like a repro that has like an OG head mold, I can totally tell like a size difference with like the heads. Because yeah, the GCDS, they also use the UV head sculpt. They just look like they look big to me.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm going to put them side by side to really understand. Yeah, but I get that.
Speaker 4:I get that um well, actually should we oh go ahead, oh sorry, no, no, no, say it um, but yeah, I mean overall I was excited for always brat lovedloe and I loved yasmin's fashion. Jade was probably like the most disappointing fashion wise it was a look.
Speaker 3:We've talked about it. It was a look. I'm warming up to it the longer time goes on, like I don't know if I'm warming up to it, I'm just getting used to it and accepting it. Yeah. But I'm like I get you know this is what she's wearing and I get it.
Speaker 4:I've accepted it and actually I really like her shirt the green long-sleeved sweater.
Speaker 3:You know it's the boots. I don't know, I don't know. The boots are not brats. Yeah, like boots are not brats. Yeah, like they're not brats enough, but the tights too, like in that space in between the tights and the boot, like I don't know yeah, it was like an awkward fit. It's awkward it's a little awkward, but again, like you know what she's a trailblazer.
Speaker 4:Maybe we don't understand, yeah maybe we'll look back and we're like oh she, actually we weren't ready for that, we weren't ready.
Speaker 3:She was ahead of the curve. Maybe we'll see we'll see um but I I know we mentioned um about talking about the latest leaks with the dolls we want to get into that real quick. Oh sure, yeah, okay, um, I'll share my I. I have the document here.
Speaker 3:I can share my screen I have some pictures here so the latest and greatest right now the rats community is these leaks. We have the going out line and we also have some rats babies which we'll get to. So let's, let's talk these girls. So first up, we have Sasha here. What are your initial thoughts on what we see?
Speaker 4:I love her, like yeah for these leaks, for going out, just like from the get-go. I think they all have beautiful faces. Yep, just like from the get-go, I think they all have beautiful faces. Yep, and definitely sasha, I feel like is like in the top two best, like screening wise, like she looks really pretty, um. I also like really love her hair, um, and then outfit wise, um, um, okay. So I like her racer jacket. I love that it's for me.
Speaker 4:I love that it's oversized because it's like very on trend yeah um, and then it's kind of hard to see, like, what she has underneath. Yeah, some sort of tank top yeah, she has like a like a cheetah print tank top and then some kind of like um shorts. Yeah, yeah yeah, I mean, I think it's cute. Um, I do. I think it's, like you know, really pushing like fashion and like that it stands out, not really, but I think it's really good for like mix and match pieces yeah, I agree, I think the screenings on these dolls look really good.
Speaker 3:It's one of those things too with the jacket, like I understand the concept and I think it'll look better when it's out of the box and like, because it kind of looks a little bulky in the photo that's leaked. But again, I mean, these are leaks so we'll see when they're officially announced. And I'm curious to see this boot mold, if this is like a new mold or what this looks like, because we only see the top half bit. Same.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but the hair looks good, looks nice and thick. Hopefully it's not like too crazy with the box hair. The outfit is good and interesting. Now the purses, you know they're there, they're there wish we had fabric um, but you know it is. I've heard a couple people um compare her to SZA, which I can kind of see a little bit um which. I like.
Speaker 3:I also want a little bit which I like. I also want to get your opinion on like the box, because to me when I saw it I was like a little plain, it is pretty plain.
Speaker 4:It definitely like gives me like budget line yeah. I kind of like the font though.
Speaker 3:I do like the font.
Speaker 4:The font kind of reminds me of like a fashion magazine yeah, and I don't know if, like you're a fan of kim petra's I'm familiar um but her first album. Uh, clarity, the font looks kind of like the same as, like her, her album. Okay, so I so I like that.
Speaker 3:It's a good font. You know what? And it is a step up a little bit, I think, from that like stock looking font that Always Brass, do you remember? With the names.
Speaker 4:It just looks so weird.
Speaker 3:Sorry, which one?
Speaker 4:Sorry for Always.
Speaker 3:Brass, oh, uh-huh. Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's a step in the right direction, but I also feel like the size of the box, like I understand they're butter dolls, but I and I've seen people talk about it, uh, on instagram too of how like they should go for, like the fashion fever barbie kind of boxes, like a little something a little more slimmer, like it just looks empty when they go this big you know what I mean, but I mean again, these are leaks, we'll see.
Speaker 3:I'm curious um next up, who do we have here? Okay, we have miss yasmin, okay what do? We, what do we think of her?
Speaker 4:um, again, I think she's really pretty. I think they really um are serving us with like these screenings, um, and I love her hair it's very cute um, I saw some people like comparing her to like, um, like Lana Del Rey, and I can totally see that like totally yeah, it's kind of like you know a casual look um. It's cute, it's cute.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's in like the same vibe as always, brats especially like. I feel like the hair color is very similar and the colors like true. I think are kind of similar. I like the outfit, the jacket again. I could do without it. Honestly, I think, um, I mean it's nice to have again. We'll see. Um, I think the red lip is really nice. The artwork's very cute. The bag is there, you know the bag is really weird. I'm trying to figure out what it is.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I don't know if this bottom piece is meant to be part of it, or if it's like. It looks like a purple teapot to me or something like weird something's happening.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's like a bow.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 3:We'll see.
Speaker 4:And then also her necklace. It's like really hard to see, like what it looks like exactly, but it kind of looks like the pearl necklace from Vivian Westwood. Do you know?
Speaker 3:what I'm talking about. I think, so yeah it has.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know. I guess we'll see, but it kind of looks like it has a little charm in the middle and I'm wondering if this is a subtle reference to that necklace that went viral in the past couple years.
Speaker 3:Oh, could be. Yeah, because it kind of looks like there. Yeah, because I wasn't sure if that was like if it was missing. But yeah, maybe there is something there.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:Well, there's less blurry pictures. I guess we'll know.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm and then like for her shoes. I'm also curious if this is going to be like a new mold. Yeah. Or if it's going to be like always brought to Chloe's shoes.
Speaker 3:But like colors, right, I could see it because the art kind of looks like them and I do like the artwork.
Speaker 4:It looks really cute.
Speaker 3:The artwork is very cute. I like the pose it's very cute, okay. Who do we have next here? Okay, okay, we have Miss here, okay, okay we have Miss Chloe.
Speaker 4:Yes, we do Now our. Okay, tell me your thoughts when you first saw this. Okay, so I feel like I don't hate it as much as people were going off, like on Instagram last week. I really like her. Her shirt um, it's kind of like a little like, um, like a pinky gingham, uh, fabric yeah, yep um, yeah, it looks like very like country chic and like very coquette style to me.
Speaker 4:Um her for like capris. I'm not like the biggest fan of like capris on brads. Yeah, I feel like they always kind of like fit weird um, but I think hers like cute. Honestly, I think the capris got a lot of hate with like um, like the lace detail on the bottom and like yeah, I think it's for me.
Speaker 3:It's just, I don't know again. We'll you know, I'll wait and see, but from what we've seen. So far. I just feel like it's too much like with the bow on the top and then the yeah lacing on the capris. I do also think like the sweater gotta go I don't know.
Speaker 4:Okay, the sweater makes no, no damn sense of that outfit no like I like, I like this better, but with the top and the capris I'm like that.
Speaker 3:That goes with a different outfit, I think, right yeah, no, I don't know, and especially in the artwork too, like it looks. It looks so much better without. Yeah um what about the hair? It's been a lot of conversation about the hair girl, what is that hair like?
Speaker 4:it's like it looks so bad it's giving like neds to classified school survival guys like coconut head.
Speaker 3:Coconut head, but with pigtails yes, thank you.
Speaker 4:I'm so glad you get the reference.
Speaker 3:No, I got it, yeah, no, it's like it just looks like the top, like it looks circular, but then it's also like to me, dare I say, too long.
Speaker 4:Definitely too long Like this cannot be like the final hair.
Speaker 3:I hope not.
Speaker 4:No, they wouldn't do that to Khloe.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 4:But her face is really pretty.
Speaker 3:The face is good. The face is good. Just a couple tweaks on the outfit. Maybe the hair? It's not even like. I don't hate that she's in bangs, but it's the way they did the bangs. I don't know Again. It's the coconut head looking aspect to it.
Speaker 4:It's so weird, it's strange.
Speaker 3:It's a fall from grace a little bit for me.
Speaker 4:It's about to have to always brats and now that I'm looking at this closer, okay, and now that I'm like looking at this closer okay, the sunglasses. You know what? That's a choice Girl. This is a lot Like we're doing a Chanel sweater. There's so much Like a country girl, like coquette top and capris, ew, and then like cowgirl print, and then there's these Sorry, can I cut please? Then we're doing these big ass like sea goggles, and then no she deserved better she did.
Speaker 3:And you know what? I will give them a little something to cow print. I don't know if it's a callback to the first edition, but in my mind I'll say it could, to give her some credit. But it's, yeah, it's a lot of ideas yes, yeah I don't think they need to edit hard on her.
Speaker 3:They need to edit, yeah, but you know, I'm curious to see again when they're officially announced like stock images. That'll maybe change their minds or maybe things will be added or taken away, who knows? Because again, like with always jade I've accepted at this point. Maybe in a year I'll look at this doll and be like you know what. I accept this. This is okay for what?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, for sure I will say the art very cute yeah, that's what I was saying too, like I can see, like maybe what they're going for in the artwork and it maybe just didn't translate in the doll I don't know, because even in the artwork is.
Speaker 3:Is it a bow or what? What is this black like? A little flower, right, that's what I thought that might have been a better choice and like again get rid of the sweater, drop the sweater yeah, save it for a future line or something.
Speaker 4:Maybe it's. And then is it just me, but I. You see her face, I can see it.
Speaker 3:It's fun getting so many new screenings. I hope someone does a comparison. I'd be curious if there's some influence from that. For sure she's a bit of a hot mess, I won't lie. It's sad to see. Again, it's sad to see the last but not least. She's a bit of a hot mess, I won't lie. It's sad to see Again. It's sad to see. Okay, now the last but not least girl. Here we have Miss Jade Jade. And personally. I think she came to redeem herself from always, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 4:Totally. Yeah, this is definitely a step up from always. First of all, what I'm obsessed with is her, her shoes, the mark jacobs kiki boots. I can't believe it yeah very cute and I don't know it's. It's definitely like a step up from always Jade, but I feel like I could be like a little bit more excited about her fashion. Yeah, her jacket looks really nice, but I don't know if we like needed another motorcycle jacket.
Speaker 3:I feel like the jackets in this line so far have been very like. I mean, do we need this?
Speaker 4:true, yeah, yeah, maybe we don't need jackets for this line.
Speaker 3:I do like this one, the best, I will say like this whole package. I feel like it's very cohesive, like it makes sense, even with, like the glasses, with the red and black to match the outfit the boots are very fun. I think. For me again, it's the, it's the screening. The faces in this line looks so good, but the hair with the bangs, the very thin bangs.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of like surprised that I like her hair, because it's kind of giving me I don't know, it's kind of giving me mullet, but but it looks better than that well, I'm also curious because in this artwork, which I love, she kind of has like a blue tone to her hair, true, yeah.
Speaker 3:I wonder. But again, the artwork does lie 90% of the time, so I don't know if that will be if the doll will have blue hair or not.
Speaker 4:Right, I think like my biggest critique is I want to see Jade in like different colors besides like red all the time. Mm-hmm. Especially since, like her most recent new doll, she had like the red lipstick and red coat.
Speaker 3:The red plaid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be interested to see. Yeah hopefully they don't stick with that too much Because, now that you mention it, yeah, she has been in that a lot. But I'm excited. I'm excited for these. I'm curious when they're going to come out. Maybe January, new Year, whenever Always came out, maybe. Yeah, I think it's supposed to be like early 2025.
Speaker 3:But I'm intrigued to see how they turn out and I'm excited. Do you have a favorite? So far from what we've seen, yeah, um, I have to say probably Sasha.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think she's just like. I think she's the prettiest the face looks so good and for me like. Usually what excites me the most is like a really pretty screening and like really nice hair to play around with yeah um, and then fashion wise, um, probably like yeah, yasmin, or or maybe Jade Yasmin, looks like really cohesive yeah she looks really like nice, like um head to toe. She looks like put together.
Speaker 3:I think, I think the screenings remind me so much of, like the older generations of brats, because I feel like always kind of did a new spin on it, like they had you know we had new screenings, but I don't know. These just look like a good mix of old but still fresh. I don't know totally they look good. They look good. I hope they look like the faces.
Speaker 4:Look this good when they're officially announced and stuff yeah, their faces look like high quality and just like really pretty, like less, I mean, dare I say, like less cartoony I mean. Yeah, I feel like always was a little.
Speaker 3:I don't know cartoon. I don't know if cartoony is the right word, but that's the word I want to use when I describe it. I don't know so I'm. I'm really excited. I'm really excited to see these girls now we can touch on this briefly, um, because I don't know how much we can say about these, but there were also some babies. Yes, okay, okay.
Speaker 4:So I have some stuff to say about these babies. Please do so. I definitely, I definitely like see resemblance with, like their outfits and this like 1990s, like Versace runway show oh okay. And I'm like 1990s like Versace runway show oh Okay. And I'm like shook about it, because have you seen that? Have you seen that at all? No.
Speaker 4:Oh, my God. Okay, I'm going to have to send you the picture because it is like almost dead on Vanessa. Oh, Like the sweaters and like the more like shiny, like skirts and stuff, right it totally. And like the shorter hairstyles. It's totally a versace reference, so I'll send you that that's fun.
Speaker 3:Interesting. They used that for the babies. I didn't think it'd be getting new babies. Honestly, I was kind of surprised yeah, honestly.
Speaker 4:So I I would love to see like brats collaborate with Versace. I always like really love that one collector Barbie that had the collector Barbie collaboration with Versace. That had like the new dress and that's the corset cute um, yeah, I think that'd be like a really good collaboration with that. But, um, to see it like happen with babies is pretty interesting now, what are your general thoughts on the babies?
Speaker 3:are you a a fan, do you? Care. Like back in the day, did you care?
Speaker 4:I had a lot of the babies when I was little. I even had like the, the place that I have like Dana's playhouse and stuff like that, oh cute. But these I don't. I don't know if, like, I'll be a collector of the babies at this point. Yeah, I don't know, I might get these because I really love Versace and so I might just want them because of that, but yeah, I don't know. They're interesting, they're interesting. You know what I don't know they're interesting.
Speaker 3:They're interesting. You know what? I don't hate them. I feel like when they were late, a lot of people were kind of like, okay, it's a choice. I'm surprised he went for the molded hair. Honestly, I prefer the molded hair baby, so I'm all for it. But I am surprised they went for maybe budget, I don't know. I think Sasha is very cute. Some of the hairstyles are a little strange, like I don't know Chloe's bangs here. I don't know what's happening. Yeah, well, again, I'll wait. I'll wait until I see some unboxings, maybe. But another interesting thing is the phones.
Speaker 4:Totally so like. Why do you think they included the phones?
Speaker 3:I don't know, because they didn't include them with the slumber party repro. So is there like are they trying to sell these babies by selling the phones?
Speaker 4:I think that's like part of it. I think you know they heard the backlash about not getting the phones and like the, the purses and cases with summer party, so they're like okay, like the baby's gonna be an accessory.
Speaker 3:So throw it with the babies, yeah and honestly, like I love brats for that, like that shows like they were listening, even though it feels kind of random yeah, because I don't know why the baby would have a landline phone, dare I say, in this day and age, just a phone in general, let alone a landline. But I mean it is cute. Does it make sense? Absolutely not. But you know, hey, we got them yeah, exactly, we got them.
Speaker 4:So everyone just buy all the babies and support your breath, yeah.
Speaker 3:They also. I didn't have a picture in here, but I just remembered. I think they also have a Felicia babies coming. So, yeah, we got it. We got a couple of babies and it's the runways collection I this is so out of like, nowhere for like again, I was not expecting new babies, but no, totally, I'm kind of here for it.
Speaker 4:I'm kind of here for it um, I'm hoping that means like, uh, the baby's line is doing well, like I hope Brad's doing well in general, like I really have no idea, um, how they're doing sales wise, but yeah, if we're getting new babies, I'm hoping that means that they're doing really good in that sense.
Speaker 3:I would. I would assume, because I could imagine the reproduction of the babies especially doing pretty well because they're pretty like affordable. So true, maybe that's a big factor. Um, the last little leak, I want to go over this one. I'm super excited about the brass babies, twins reproductions. Now this one. I am like 100 here for girl, these twins, okay, this.
Speaker 3:This does get me excited about the babies like these are the ones to get these are gonna get the babies exactly they're so cute like and they're the ogs, so I'm definitely gonna get these yeah, no, me too, and I feel like like I've always told myself, if I ever find the bratz babies, twins, like they need to have all their hair pieces and they're tough to keep, apparently, because a lot of them are being sold without the hair pieces and, like roxy is three, so that's a whole other factor. There's like more to keep up with, um, but I just think they're adorable. I mean, I'm sure I've said on this podcast like I love these me too, um, and they come with everything like the original ones.
Speaker 3:I think, I think, so they might be missing a bag maybe.
Speaker 4:Oh, I don't know, but hey we got the ducks, so we got the duck you know what? That's enough for me, it looks like so good like they, they really do look like the original so they do I'm excited, so cute and I.
Speaker 3:It makes me wonder if maybe we'll get like a known and test down the line like maybe hair flare repros, I don't know that. I can take or leave, honestly, um, but it's super cute. I'm excited. I'm excited for for these.
Speaker 4:I have to say I feel like I was a bit of a hater on what I said about the going out line and the baby's runways, but honestly, I'm probably going to get all of them. Let's be honest, let's be honest.
Speaker 3:We can nitpick as much as we want, but will we be completing these lands? Probably? We will.
Speaker 3:Yes, um, again, I I'm excited to see when they're officially announced and released. Um, because, like you know, with leaks you just sometimes you never know these could be prototypes, they could change things for better or worse, so we'll see. But it's always exciting. This is part of the process. We see the leaks, we get excited, we get our hopes up and sometimes they've been our expectations and sometimes we're let down. So we'll see, we'll see. But the babies look good, the babies look solid. So we got that to look forward to.
Speaker 3:Now, to close out the episode, we want to talk about kind of like fashion brands or collabs we would like to see brats do for the future. Talking about, you know, these new dolls and stuff just makes you think of like the possibilities for brats. Um, and you know we have like celebrity dolls like that's always a topic of discussion which I don't know if they're. I thought the Mean Girls were the celebrity dolls, but maybe there's another one coming, I don't know. But Bratz, you never know, we'll see. So who are some fashion brands, celebrities, whatever, you would like to see Bratz collaborate with? I only have a couple, because I mentioned this to you earlier, first recording I'm not like a huge fashion connoisseur, like. I only know so much um, but I have some ideas. But let's, let's hear, let's hear you first. What do you, what do you have cooking for us?
Speaker 4:okay. So for fashion brands, I did like write down like a little bullet list, okay, um, and I'm probably like totally delusional about what would actually happen. But what I would love to see is like them to collaborate with Versace yep, um, I mean, uh, versace. They've collaborated with the Dahlgren before, so it's not like totally delusional, but I think like they really fit with, like the Brad aesthetic. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Like Versace, like they're always known for. Like sexier cuts of. Like their outfits they're always known for like um, like sexier cuts of like their outfits um and like they aren't afraid of, like a platform shoe right um, which is like very brat. So that would be like my number one pick. Um, I also wrote down uh, john Paul Gaultier okay um, I definitely. I don't know if you heard like there was like a rumor that, um, his brand was going to be like the um the one to collaborate with that really around like the kylie draws.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, so, um yeah, before the kylie doll release um yeah, there was like a rumor going around that um kylie's doll was going to be wearing like don paul gaultier. Oh, okay that would have been cute. Yeah, and there, um, there was even like this whole like photo shoot, which I I really thought was going to be the look that they're going to give to the Kylie doll. Am I able to share the screen if you want to? Yeah, go ahead. Let's see.
Speaker 3:Oh, actually, let me just, oh, I might need to change settings. Let me see, oh, here we. Let me just, oh, I might need to change settings. Let me see, oh, here we go, okay, okay, you should be able to now. I think I just switched the settings. Oh God Okay.
Speaker 4:I think you can see my screen here beautiful. Okay, we're in cool, um, okay, so I thought that you see oh yeah, okay yeah, so I thought this was going to be the look that, um, they're going to give k Kylie, which I was, like, really excited for. Yeah, that would have been cool right, she totally looks like a mermaid or like siren to me totally yep.
Speaker 3:I'm seeing the vision and I don't know.
Speaker 4:You probably follow monster lol, dolls and I think they even like redid the same exact look for Kylie. And I don't know, you probably follow Monster, lol Dolls, mm-hmm, and I think they even like created the same exact look for Kylie.
Speaker 4:Oh cute, cute, oh. And then another brand, let's see. Here I put Marc Jacobs for, like his side brand, heaven, okay, um. Mark jacobs. Or like his side brand, heaven, okay, um. Which we're kind of getting like the mark jacobs dt boots now with, uh, going out jade, oh okay. And then I put biggie and westwood that's another one I had.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like that would be super fun right, like um.
Speaker 4:I would love to see like um. Then give Brad like one of her like shoe molds, because he also like has like really iconic platform shoes, um, and then I also put Terry Moogler oh, that's a good one. I feel like that would be so cool, like referencing like um an iconic like brat star hairbrush oh that would be fun that would be like a full circle moment, right, almost oh, that's a good
Speaker 3:one that's a good one um, yeah, those are my main ones okay I so yeah, so I also had vivian westwood just because I'm familiar with the designer and I think they have cool things and I think that would have been fun. Another one this is more of a brand and it's a little. It's definitely current um, and I've seen it in other mga products, so I feel like that's also why be a good fit um if brad's did a sanrio collab collection. I think it's what the people need and the people want and I feel like it needs to happen it needs to happen.
Speaker 3:It just like it goes, like hand in hand, like it goes hand in hand and I know they have done it with, like I know, um, hello kitty and the lol surprise tots have a little collection and they announced recently the sanrio lol tots which I think are so adorable. Um, and I just think it'd be so fun for each bratz girl to have, like, their own Sanrio character. They have a little bit based on, I mean it just it writes itself and I feel like there's such crossover in the Bratz community with Sanrio, like I see all the restyles with the little Hello Kitty elements and stuff so.
Speaker 3:I feel like it makes sense like yeah, I just think that'd be so cute and fun. And then the last kind of designer I had and I feel like I'm cheating a little bit and I'm kind of stealing from Barbie in a way, but like if we could get a Bob Mackie oh wow it's like I just feel like that'd be so, like I just want to see a Bratz version of that because I know, he's collabed with Barbie and done like designer dolls and like a couple holiday dolls so you know he's probably taken, but I would love to see that I just love his stuff and like the.
Speaker 4:Cher of it all, like the Cher of it all if we got a Cher doll, could you imagine?
Speaker 3:could you imagine? Well, that kind of transitions? Okay, so for celebrities, do you have anyone in mind for a celebrity you'd want for us to collab with?
Speaker 4:um, okay, I have a whole list, but oh okay, let's hear it um, but wait. But first, since you mentioned Cher, like which just popped into my head, I know you love like flashback fever. Imagine if they brought back like flashback fever and then they did like a celebrity, like Cher doll, like 1970s Cher that would be, like in like an amazing, like glittery, like dress or something like again. I feel like we're such dreamers we are like, we want this like will this ever happen?
Speaker 3:probably not, but could you imagine? If it did oh, that would be so good, oh, that'd be so fun, because I would kind of put like a like a fun twist on it if they were like, yeah, to tie it in with, like, the flashback fever line, exactly. Oh, there's a vision there. I like that.
Speaker 4:That's good yeah sure, yeah, I feel like it'd be so cool if they like brought back the flashback fever line, um, but like separated it into like different decades I feel like they need to do like that's a like, a good way like yeah
Speaker 4:do the line, but because you know listen like, do like a 1920s line with like all the characters in like 1920s looks you could flash back to, yeah, different decades that you weren't like. Besides, when you've already done new characters, yeah, or I mean or even redo like decades that they've already referenced, but just like give looks to like all the characters for like that decade.
Speaker 3:That's what I think Like. Let's put a new spin on it. Let's do new looks new characters new dolls Because, like you know, we've talked about the reproductions and like if they did a Flashback Fever. As much as I love that line, I don't know if I could get a reproduction.
Speaker 4:Because I don't know if I could get a reproduction, because I can't have a lesser version. Do you know? Yeah, I mean, if they did, um, do repros of those, they definitely have to, like, wait until they perfected even repros, we gotta wait. They need to do that line, so much justice.
Speaker 3:I can't have an outfit cut. I'm'm sorry. I can't. No, that's one I would still hold out for the originals. I don't know, I almost don't, as selfish as it is, don't want them to do it. I mean they can do it.
Speaker 4:I just won't buy them. I just think you can't mess with perfection.
Speaker 3:You can't do it.
Speaker 4:Don't do it. It's sacred. You have to protect it. It's sacred, we have to protect it.
Speaker 3:It's sacred it's sacred?
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 3:We'll see. We'll see what 2025 brings. I'm very curious, I mean with rats sometimes it's so random. Like I know they do these polls and stuff, but like don't do.
Speaker 4:Rocky Angels again the random polls, please, god. We love them for it.
Speaker 3:The chaos. They're the chaos. They're so chaotic, they're so chaotic. Um, but okay, celebrity dolls, I, yeah, I'll start. I'll start with this first one. It's not really celebrity but like with the whole main girl stuff, and I I'm sure you saw there was like turned out to be fan art, but the legally blonde brad's box that was kicking around um I I I forgot who made it, but someone in the community. I made it and they're very talented and it looked real.
Speaker 3:So people thought it was like a real doll um me included for like a second I was like it's, we'll see. But in terms of that, in terms of like movies, um, kind of a little bit of a basic answer, but I feel like a clueless doll. You know they touched on it with the rainbow high a little bit, but you know, if we had a Bratz again, another share, just so happens, another Sharon Dion moment, like I feel like that could be cute. I feel like that could be, cute.
Speaker 4:I feel like that would sell like super well, it's like a cult classic Totally. One of my favorite movies. Well, it's like a cult classic Totally.
Speaker 3:One of my favorite movies.
Speaker 4:It brings in like an audience of, like the older millennials. And then it's just like so classic. I think it would appeal to a lot of people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it could be cute, but we'll see. We'll see who's on your list for celebrities.
Speaker 4:Okay, see, we'll see. Um, who, who's on your list for celebrities? Um, okay, so I guess first off, I should start with, like like the big rumor about who it's probably gonna be. Okay, let's get into it. Um, so it seems like everyone's saying it's gonna be Carol G. That's what I've been hearing. Yeah, and I honestly I don't know that much about her Right there with you, but I think she's really pretty and I think, like the pictures I have seen of her, she has like good style. So it makes sense like making a fashion doll about her, I suppose. Um, and it seems like she's like really popular with like the um Latino, like community. Um, yeah, so that's good.
Speaker 4:I'm interested to see that pans out if that's true or not the only thing that I'm like a little bit confused about, because, um, I'm pretty sure she made music for the Barbie movie, right, oh, okay, featured in one of the songs for like the soundtrack right, no loyalty. Okay, no, I'm just kidding so I thought that was like pretty interesting, because yeah that was like um.
Speaker 4:You know, one of the things that celebrities like have to deal with all the time is like um, being careful about who they work with and collaborate with with, like all their contacts, and like contraindications, so like. I wonder how, if Isaac knows that and how he'd feel and part of me feels like he has to know, like if she is the celebrity doll for Brad, and maybe they, they like did that on purpose, so I don't know if he's like trying to start something with Mattel, like like you know, like coaching people from like the Barbie movie.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Speaking of the Barbie movie, because you're making me think of the soundtrack. You know a Charlie XCX? Okay, that one I would be down for. Make it happen, MGA, Come on.
Speaker 4:I know Okay. Just do it I was like so confused about like, oh, like, if this is the bigger rumor, like the biggest rumor, that it's gonna be carol g, I'm like, why wouldn't it be carly xdx at some point? Because, right, she also made music for Barbie, so and she just made you know her, her famous album Brat, so like she just seemed like a shoe-in for a celebrity doll at this point.
Speaker 3:I feel like it. It has to happen. I would love to see it.
Speaker 4:I would love to see it as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah fingers crossed fingers crossed.
Speaker 3:I also on my list because I've mentioned this podcast. Like there's not many celebrities I can really see collaborating the brats, like the celebrity doll in general to me as an idea I'm, like you know, neutral on it like it's whatever to me will be fair and I was just trying to think of people who had like a catalog of looks that would be fun to recreate. So in that regard, I put down zendaya and rihanna. Well, I think this will happen, probably not again. Now that I'm thinking about, zendaya did have a barbie doll, so I don't know if that's going to cause tension. Oh, did she? Yeah, her Oscar look way back in the day. Oh, my God, I don't think it was for like sale. I think it was like one of those times. You know how they made, like the Nicki Minaj Barbie, like they only made one.
Speaker 4:It was that kind of situation.
Speaker 3:But she has so many looks and I, but she has so many looks and I feel like that would be so fun. Same with Rihanna too, I mean they both have like a catalog of, like amazing fashion moments. It's you know. It reminds me, though, when, like you know, Bratz did the Beyonce fan art and people were like expecting Beyonce doll, I'm like guys, let's set our expectations Girl.
Speaker 4:Like I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3:You can't afford that.
Speaker 4:But I'm like I mean you know, I mean not that we couldn't afford that ip, like not that mj couldn't afford that, but beyonce is just not for sale like that I don't think beyond.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, beyonce is not picking up those calls. No, she's not I mean I you know, would love to see it theoretically, but will it happen?
Speaker 3:No, oh yeah, no, but um, yes, a day in Rihanna. I mean, again, don't think it's gonna happen, but if I had to choose, I think those would be really fun, like just thinking how they did with Kylie and again with the Kylie. I don't know what looks those really like. I know the one red carpet one the day look which I think is very cute on the doll, but I don't know the reference. I feel like the day and rihanna just have so many references they could use, so I feel like that would be like a good pick in a dream world totally, I would be so excited to see like either one of them get a doll.
Speaker 4:Um, I feel like Zendaya is like more likely if I was like to compare the two. Yeah yeah, I feel like Rihanna is kind of like on par with Beyonce, like yeah if you could afford me like totally not for sale for a doll like that yeah um, um, but yeah, zendaya, I could totally see that and like, if not like, um a direct reference to zendaya, then like one of her characters, like I'm so down to see, like a euphoria brat and like season three whenever it comes out oh my gosh we'll see we'll see one day maybe um, I would love to see it, though, and like, yeah, I make like a brew doll and, um, like Maddie, yeah oh, a Maddie doll they're.
Speaker 3:They're so built for brats. Like again it just it writes itself it would be so perfect just make it.
Speaker 4:I was imagining like if they did like um, almost like a formal funk, but like euphoria style, like when they're all at prom and like their dresses and stuff. I feel like that would be really cool to see. Like euphoria, but like in the prom looks from.
Speaker 3:That would be cute, that would be cute. We'll see. We'll see. Like, yeah it's, it's all a big, we'll see. Do you have anyone else on the list you want to mention?
Speaker 4:um, okay, so I'm definitely biased, but I would love to see a Lana Del Rey okay pretty doll, um, but yeah, I'm definitely biased. I love Lana, but, um, do I actually see that happening? Probably not just because she's not known as like a fashion icon. She's like actually more known for like being like a thrifty type of person, like buying a dress at the mall and wearing it on the red carpet, which I love her for that. But yeah, like um, a fashion doll brand isn't gonna be like remaking that outfit, you know right um.
Speaker 4:But I do really love like um, like, when I think of brats, I think of like their iconic big lip, you know, and I feel like um, aside from Kylie Jenner, and like, for instance, like you know, lip filler yeah, yeah um, I think of like Lana, I feel like that kind of makes sense to me that totally makes sense.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I could see that um, but asides from that delusional idea, um, I would also love to see like a callie uccia or a dogecat doll oh, I've heard those names thrown around a lot in this conversation, yeah, and like they don't have like any contraindications with like other brands, like, specifically, barbie, so I think those would be like good, like relevant artists that are kind of on fire right now that have like really put in the work, um, you know, to have like a doll made after them because like, although I can see like um people are saying, like Sabrina Carpenter, or like Chapel Room.
Speaker 4:I'm like yeah, they're really big right now, but like they don't really have a legacy yet. So totally, um, you know, I just can't imagine like a company taking a big risk on making you know, spending so much money on um, like their IP first of all and then to make a doll after them.
Speaker 3:I just don't see that happening yeah, no, I totally agree too early too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, too early and yeah, we talked about Charlie. I feel like some people think that she's also too new, but she's been in the game for years. I remember listening to her since 2011.
Speaker 3:Hello.
Speaker 4:Yeah. She's been around Okay. I have Ariana Grande on my list okay, dreamers, here we go.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, um.
Speaker 4:So I feel like she would be perfect for like the brand. Um, like image and fashion wise, and maybe more so for like a couple years ago when she was on her like thank you next album and like sweetener era. But um, now that she's like in wicked and like made a doll right, it's kind of like, you know, not gonna happen for a while yeah if ever yeah, unfortunately, and then we talked about the big three beyonce, rihanna lady gaga, those are like out of you know, out of reality out of reach yep and and also we all know like lady gaga, the whole like lawsuit back in the day like that, yeah, no that relationship is over.
Speaker 4:That's never gonna happen and now?
Speaker 3:what a shame.
Speaker 4:Yes, um, and then the very last one I have is sisa. Oh, okay, that would be like realistic with like ali uchis and doja cat I could see that right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, especially with the going out sasha kind of like giving reference to her a little bit or giving yeah vibes of sZA that could be cute yeah that could be cute. I feel like if we don't get like, yeah, sza or lana, lana del rey, um, don't get like yeah sisa or lana lana del rey um at least, you know, we kind of got it with going out in a way.
Speaker 4:So in a way we got essence of sisa a little bit, yes, a little taste a little taste.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, with brats you never know what we're gonna get um, so we'll see. We'll see what 2025 brings in terms of the celebrity doll and the collabs and collections and everything like that. But I think that's gonna close out this episode. Then I think we covered everything we covered a lot.
Speaker 4:We did it we did it.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much for coming on. Can you let the people know where to find you if you want to?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, you can find me on Instagram at Tokyo Maylin.
Speaker 3:Beautiful as always, guys. Links will be down below Lorenzo. Again, thank you for coming on. This was so much fun, Glad we have a new friend joining us on the pod today and yeah, we hope you guys enjoyed listening and we will see you in the next episode. Bye bye.
Speaker 4:Thank you, vanessa. Everybody now, everybody now, uberx, uberx, uberx, yeah, uberx. We'll always be there for each other, uberx, yeah.