Not Just Why, But How: Practical Advice on Creating an Ideal Diet - Conversation with Dr. Cori Stern

For too long mental illness has been confined to brain health and neurotransmitter management. Today's conversation shifts the focus on the important impact of nutrition on mental health. Dr. Cori Stern shares her personal healing journey. In addition, I ask Dr. Stern some tough questions about how to handle all the many challenges that interfere with improving our diets.

Her enlightened and compassionate approach provides practical ways that nutritional counseling can help an individual implement and build a health-promoting diet. What is the secret to transforming intellectual understanding to actual positive eating habits? Listen to this podcast to find out!

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Biography
Dr. Cori Stern has been helping people restore and optimize their health naturally since 2001. Her passion for alternative medicine grew out of a sick childhood characterized by a very poor diet, incessant chronic infections, and never-ending cycles of antibiotics. At the young age of 15, she decided to take her health into her own hands and began self-studying topics like the gut-brain connection, toxins, and how diet impacts a person's overall well being. Later in life, upon re-realizing her childhood dreams of helping those who suffer heal naturally, she decided to become a chiropractor at 32 and graduated at 37. She now assists people all over the world with overcoming health challenges and advocating for their healthcare. Dr. Cori Stern oversees a busy private practice where she also educates other chiropractors on how to achieve optimal results with their clients. She is the creator of the Dr. Cori Stern - Take Control of Your Health channel known for its bite-sized information on a wide range of modern health topics.

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Marc Ronick: 0:01

Welcome to the holistic psychiatrist podcast, a place for inspiration, insight and information on holistic mental health. Join your host, Dr. Alice Lee, and discover critical information on safe, effective psychiatric medication withdrawal. Explore new ideas that enlighten and expand the mind with cutting edge authors and experts along with former patients as they share their miraculous healing journeys. It's time to build your well being from the thought up. It's time for the holistic psychiatrist podcast. Here's your host, Dr. Alice Lee.

Dr. Alice Lee: 0:48

Hello, and welcome to the holistic psychiatrists podcast, where we'll building wellbeing from the thought. I'm your host, Dr. Alice Lee, the holistic psychiatrist practicing in New York and Utah. For more information about me and access to free articles, podcasts and contact information, please check out my website, holistic psychiatrists.com Thank you so much for listening today. Today we're going to talk about nutrition and mental health. And we have a wonderful guest with us today, Dr. Corey stern from New York. She's been working in her field for many decades, for too long mental illness has been confined to brain health, and Dr. Corey Stern, will be discussing her use of nutrition and how it plays a role in supporting mental health. She'll explain why nutrition is so central to mental health, some of the ways in which we become nutritionally depleted, and how to support recovery, and re establish stress, resilience, improve mood, and sleep and longevity through nutrition. So Dr. Corey, thank you so much for being on this podcast, we're gonna start by asking you to introduce yourself a little bit and share with the audience a little bit about your background. First, I

Unknown: 1:55

want to thank you for having me on your show Dr. Lee, because I really admire the work that you do. And I think there needs to be a lot more holistic psychiatry going on in the world. So yeah,

Dr. Alice Lee: 2:09

thank you so much. So

Unknown: 2:10

I am a chiropractor by degree. And I specialize in what I call holistic nutrition. And I've been doing that for 24 years. And my as you mentioned, my office is in New York City. So I have a physical practice. But I also see patients virtually from all over the world, it's a very busy practice, because there is a such a great need for nutritional guidance, there's so much misinformation about and people are very confused about it

Dr. Alice Lee: 2:45

that you're sought after by people who want your expertise. You've been in this field for how many years

Unknown: 2:52

and my physical practice for 24 years. So I graduated from chiropractic school 25 years ago,

Dr. Alice Lee: 2:59

I would imagine that over those 25 years, you've grown a lot in terms of your approach in terms of using nutrition to help people heal. And so today, we're just going to take a very small aspect of your practice, which is how nutrition helps people with their mental health. And this is a field that I stumbled across, you know, back in 2002, with learning about orthomolecular, and functional medicine and things like that, I have felt that as a medical doctor, very few medical doctors are really interested in the medicinal application of nutrition in helping people with mental health. And I'm really happy to meet another doctor who is very versed, well versed in that field, and is very dedicated and committed, you know, to using nutrition to help other people get better. So really appreciate all the work that you've done to help move this whole kind of paradigm forward. At this point, you're focusing on this holistic field and I was wondering if you want to share what led you to have such a strong interest in this holistic field? And what makes this whole field very gratifying and rewarding?

Unknown: 4:21

Yeah, I think my story is actually pretty interesting. I like to say that I started my life as a fetus with bad nutrition. My parents ate very poorly, their parents eat poorly. I'm third generation American. And in the United States, people started eating processed food really heavily in the 1920s. But even before that, the turn of the century late 1800s When processed food was introduced into the mainstream diet, and people started to develop diseases. is what we call lifestyle diseases from eating poor foods. So now here I am, this poor unsuspecting fetus being fed garbage by my my mom. And I was sick as a child all the time. So not not critically ill, but I always had infections, throat ear ladder, I was always on antibiotics. And plus both of my parents were heavy smokers. So I had a lot of exposure to cigarette smoke. It was just a very unhealthy child. By the time I was 15, I developed chronic strep throat infection, that would not respond to any thing that was done, no interventions were helping, I was getting put on one antibiotic after another and I was really quite sick, I was on those 15, it was a summertime. And I felt so terrible that I was pretty much stuck in bed, I couldn't go hang out with my friends. And I was angry. And I made this decision or came to a realization perhaps is a better way to put it that medical doctors don't seem to know how to heal me. And so I decided I was going to figure it out for myself. And I started doing some research and reading various textbooks. My stepmother was a registered nurse. So I was reading all her books. And then I stumbled on a magazine called prevention. And that was a, let's say, a holistic health approach to something that I had never seen before. And it was a mainstream magazine actually is still in print today. And it talked a lot about nutrition. Just reading one issue of that magazine, I suddenly had this lightbulb go off. And I said that's that's why I'm sick, because I have really bad nutrition. And I decided to completely change my diet when I was 15. At that time, I was working as a babysitter in a tall, high, you know, a high rise building in Manhattan. So there was a lot of water work. And I was the building babysitter and I was making $1 an hour, which was good money. This is back in the late 70s, mid 70s. And I spent all my money on food, I cleaned it up, I stopped eating sugar, I stopped eating processed food, I stopped eating preservatives, white flour. And in my local health food store, I found a book called back to Eden. And that was written in the 1920s. And it's what I call an herbal Bible. It has every herb on planet Earth and its therapeutic application, that I became fascinated with this concept that there were things growing on Earth that we can use to heal ourselves. And I started buying herbs and making concoctions and long story short, I healed my strep throat infection. And it kind of planted a seed in me that maybe one day I'll be able to help other people to heal themselves through the use of nutrition and natural herbs and things like that. So it was a long winding road for me to get to, to where I am today. But I was determined to do it. Yeah, you know,

Dr. Alice Lee: 8:24

if 10 years old, that's 10th grade. And you kind of took your health in your own hands and you know, learn what you needed to learn. I would imagine the reason why you have to spend money on your food is because your parents didn't quite agree with your new direction. Right?

Unknown: 8:42

Right. They thought I was crazy. They were calling me a witch. Well, I was mixing my herbs and making my concoctions and yeah, they didn't get it at all. And in fact, they all you know, my both my parents passed away. My father have a massive heart attack when he was 47. My mother got a rare form of Parkinson's, it was just a horrible death. And my stepmother who's still alive is extremely unhealthy. So I just didn't want to

Dr. Alice Lee: 9:12

end up like that. And you know, when you were sharing your story, I was appreciating what you shared about feeling angry about the whole fact that doctors didn't know how to help you and wanting to take that challenge and, you know, trying to really use that energy to help yourself heal. When I was experiencing my health crisis, trying to get off Zoloft. I remember there was a point when I realized I was experiencing a lot of withdrawal symptoms from coming off the Zoloft. And I also felt that kind of anger that I was put in that position and making you know kind of a pivot in my life to try to devote my energy Margie and my exploration to help other patients to come off the medication and not have to suffer the way I had suffered because nobody knew what was going on. And I think that's truly a good use of anger. I agree

Unknown: 10:15

that was definitely part of what mine is my decision to go into this field was I don't want anyone to suffer, like I did. And then that expanded into, let's just create health and prevent suffering. Right, rather than waiting till people start suffering, let's, let's get them healthy, so that they don't end up in that situation. So

Dr. Alice Lee: 10:40

we both came into the similar field, but coming from different backgrounds, you know, like in medicine, psychiatry, it was very much medications, a psycho pharmaceuticals, medications, that kind of stuff. I went from there to kind of pills and capsules and as supplements and then ended up as a holistic psychiatrist. I think your approach, though, came from your understanding of food, and how to use diet to help you and how to, you know, use what plants are growing and herbals. And you actually use it to help yourself a lot of the foods that are out there that are bad for you are made, so that it can hook you into eating it, because they taste good. They there's something about that kind of food that makes it hard to give up. Right? And especially sugar is quite addicting. And so I wanted to ask you how you work with people who really likes, you know, eating their hotdog, their pizzas, you know, they want a soda, every time they sit down with a meal, how to shift the kind of the social kind of brainwashing the advertising and also the addictive nature of these foods, because I think there's a lot of doctors out there. They're their model of health, they eat really well, you know, and they're trying to teach all these wonderful principles. It's all very data driven. But it's not very powerfully capable of shifting people's behaviors. I'm sure that that's a challenge that you've had to face working with patients and other people come to your practice. And you look at their diet, and you say, you know, you need to do this or that. And if they're suffering a lot, they will follow. But if they're not suffering, yet, they're going to, you know, like, they might say to you, it's too hard to do, or I don't like that kind of food,

Unknown: 12:39

you can't out supplement a bad diet. So all the supplements in the world are not going to cure your symptoms. If you're eating garbage. If you eat garbage, you'll have a garbage body. If you have nutritional deficiencies, one or more of your organs are not going to function properly and you won't feel well. So there's a few key points to be made here. And one is you hit the nail on the head processed food is purposefully addictive. Sugar is more addictive than cocaine. There's things chemicals like MSG, monosodium glutamate, which is a flavor enhancer, which is highly addictive. And by the way, it's a neurotoxin. artificial flavors are highly addictive, even smells, they put specific smells in food, not just food. But this this is slightly off topic, but also in products and cleaning products and laundry detergent and on deodorizers that are very addictive and very, very toxic. So there's a lot of addictive properties to process foods. And it actually though those chemicals, the sugars that the high sodium, which which we call them the bad salt, the process salt, because salt is a mineral that your body needs. So we're talking about the bad salt that gets added to processed foods and all those other chemicals actually alter your taste buds. So once your taste buds are all good, you don't like real food, you don't like the whole you know, unaltered foods. So part of the process is to gently what we call gradient Lee reduce the bad stuff that people are eating and introduced some better quality and you know, everybody has a different gradients. Some people can do it easily and quickly and other people, it's going to be one little thing at a time. So before I start working with somebody, the very first thing that we do is we have them write down at least To de minimum have a two day food journal. So I can see at a glance what they're mostly putting into their body. And that gives me an idea of what path I'm going to need to take with them. And before we start working together, I have them I explained very carefully that part of doing this program, one of the one of the responsibilities you're going to have as a patient is to keep a food journal of everything that you're eating and drinking, and I let them keep that journal any way they want to, they can write it, they can voice record it, they can take photos, they can download a food journal app, I don't care how they do it, I tell them, you can scribble it on toilet paper with a crayon, I don't care. We just need to record what you're eating. And you need to show me that blue journal on a weekly basis. And then we're going to make some modifications based on what I see, and what I think we need to do. And then we might start with something like this. Okay, so I see that you're drinking 10 bottles of Pepsi a week? Do you know that Pepsi is bad for you? So first step, educate. Why why is Pepsi bad? We want to make sure that we don't we don't make an assumption that somebody knows that something's bad for them. Here's why. All right, I'll ask them. Why is it bad for you? What is it doing to your body? How is it harming you? So you're giving giving them a reality on what they are actually doing? What action they are taking, to harm themselves, not to criticize them, but so that they have a full awareness? Because awareness is really important in in being able to make choices. You know, that's one of the things about adulting making responsible decisions and choices. If you want to be healthy, that will contribute to your health and not Harnett. And then I will say to them, okay, so I would like you to try this soda actually did this yesterday, I had a new patient, 19 year old man. Now, those are, you know, no, no offense to any 19 year old men that might be listening, but they are generally difficult to work with, because they usually usually have a processed food diet, like you said, your pressure, this kid is in college, um, he eats what's available at school. He was drinking soda every day. So first thing I suggested was trying a better quality soda. And that was sweetened with alternative sweeteners that are not bad for you. So not artificial, not talking about artificial sweeteners, which are chemical but an actual plant based sweetener, like stevia or monk fruit. So do you want to try this soda? This is the brand and he actually looked it up on his phone. And I said, try that. See if you like it. If you like it? Well, we're gonna replace the bad. So you're drinking with this better soda. And then my, you know, evil plan after that would be to gently get him off the better soda. Let's just say if he wasn't willing to try the better soda, I would say Okay, so I see that you're drinking 10 bottles of Pepsi a week? Do you think that this coming week, you can try to drink six, no more than six. And the times that you're not drinking soda, what would you like to drink instead. And then we'll just lowly and it could be like watching paint dry, but slowly start reducing the bending. And while we're giving the body some better quality stuff, and allow the tastebuds to adjust to it. And then of course, when you start giving some some good quality supplements and so the body to that reduces the cravings. It reduces the, the addiction. So that that's really the key to doing it as gently. If you look at somebody's food journal, and you say, Oh, you're eating all this bad stuff, stop eating that now and only eat this, they will not be able to do it. It's like telling you know, any addict or substance abuser or any any anyone gambling, addiction, anything telling them to stop, you cannot do that it doesn't work and they will, they will quit they will stop trying and you will be a failure. There

Dr. Alice Lee: 19:33

are conferences in DC, I think twice a year, where a internist who's holistic presents all the data for a vegetarian diet. So stay away from needs, those kinds of things. Of course, stay away from all the wheat and dairy white, refined sugar, you know, perfect diet, no meat, and I've gone to his conferences a couple of times. I tried four For, I think two and a half weeks until I got tired of sand in my salad, you know, at chops of a couple weeks, with a vegetarian diet, I lost a huge amount of body fat right around my middle, I knew that it was great. But you know, I got tired of sand in my salad and I wasn't going to, you know, make the salad every day. So I noticed that even with all the good results very soon, I did return back to an old habits or old, you know, dietary things. Some of it is cultural. Like, for example, I grew up with more of a Chinese diet, as opposed to salads and, you know, American, even the best kind of foods, they're not culturally aligned with what I grew up with. So that really failed. For me, even though the results were very quick to convince me that for at least for that period of time, it had many advantages. What are some of your thoughts about integrating some cultural, you know, kind of considerations when people are trying to eat more healthy,

Unknown: 21:07

the location that I'm in, in New York, I actually see people from pretty much every country in the world. I have many Chinese patients, I have Japanese, I have Korean, I have Indian, I have Pakistani I have from all over Europe, Russia, South America, Central America. So the Caribbean islands, so I'm very familiar with all these different foods. And and you know, because people are putting on their food journal, the native foods that they eat, the interesting thing to think about is the role that your genes play, and what foods are actually compatible with your body? Because people from let's say, the Caribbean, are going to be genetically more compatible with tropical fruits than somebody from, let's say, Northern Europe. So that's a thing. That's a thing that you have to take into consideration. I don't recommend that people. I'm not really a big fan of a vegetarian diet, I understand that. It helps you lose weight. But were you going to become deficient in amino acids? After a while? Were you eating enough protein? That's a rhetorical question. But

Dr. Alice Lee: 22:22

apparently, you needed to eat a lot to get everything that you need. From a vegetarian diet.

Unknown: 22:27

There's plenty of vegans or vegetarians out there that will disagree with me, I do get into conversations like this quite frequently, but just from a completely biological perspective. And from my clinical observations, it looks to me like people who eat a more, a heavier animal based diet generally are healthier, the most important thing is where the animal comes from, and what the animal is fed and how the animal is treated. So I do not recommend that anybody eat any animal products from a confined feeding animal operation, those commercial farms where they feed the animals garbage, they shoot them up with antibiotics and hormones, and they mistreat them and stress them out. I get all my food from an Amish farm. I know the farmer I know how I know what they feed the animals, I know how they treat the animals, I know every everything about what's going on with my food. And that's really being in control of my health. There's actually a website that you can go on, called farm match.com. If you maybe want to put this in your notes for the show farm match.com. Forward slash, Dr. Cory DRC or I, you put your zip code in. And you can find out where you can get nutrient dense clean food grown on a small scale family farm and either delivered or or there's pickup locations for some of them. So for example, my office is a pickup location for the community. And so getting back to your original question about about ethnic food choices, so I'll give you some examples. I have a lot of patients from Mexico that grew up on eating tortillas and when they come to this country and eat the GMO corn tortillas here, they get very sick. So what we do is we find them a better quality a clean version of tortilla. So I teach my Indian patients how to make their chappati was better quality, you know organic clean flour or alternative flour. Asians in general, you know it no matter what Asian country you're talking about, if you tell them don't eat rice, it's bad for you, that's going to be a problem. So you have to find, help them find organic rice to at least to start with, and then what other alternatives they might be willing to explore, respect the fact that, you know, you grew up on this food, and that's what your body is going to probably end up doing best on, we just want to make sure you're eating the best version of it possible.

Dr. Alice Lee: 25:30

So the website is farm match.com. Is that F ar mm@ch.com? For slash?

Unknown: 25:40

Yeah, so I do, I do promotions. for them. It's a nonprofit organization that matches the small scale, nutrient dense, clean family farms with consumers. So there's a lot of food on those farms.

Dr. Alice Lee: 25:56

My next tough question is, I'm sure you work with a lot of professionals. And these professionals are kind of like driven to work all the time. And so they neglect their foods. So they might wake up in the morning, they drink their, you know, cup of coffee and get a bagel or croissant, they're dashing off to work, they may not even have time for lunch, they're working all day, 10 hour days, hardly ever drinking water, you know, they're like, on the phone. They're busy, busy, busy, busy people. And that's success, you know, for them, you know, you're in New York, you know what that kind of like lifestyle can be. And then at the end of the day, they're exhausted, they're gonna pick up something from somewhere, they're not going to cook. They're gonna just like, they're too exhausted, they can't even think you know, much less, you know, wait 30 minutes to get their food. So they're gonna pick up something maybe on their way home. And that's your meal for the day. So it's a constant grind for them very high stress. And yet, they're kind of putting their nutrition maybe fourth and priority about, you know, like, underneath their work and their family and their dog, you know, that fits, whatever it is that they have to take care of her. So how do you work with people like that, because they're going to come to you, you know, feeling sick, exhausted, they think, well, I may need to do something about my food. But then they have these habits that they've built up over, like many decades and habits that honestly the business world, other professions, you know, encourage because they don't want you to be like, taking time for lunch if he could make another two or three phone calls during that hour, right? So how do you help these people to be able to take care of themselves I

Unknown: 27:52

do have I have attorneys, I have accountants, I have architects, those all start with a that's interesting. But accountants, especially when we're, we're having this conversation in tax season, and they are in some of the most stress patients that I have. I have a lot of business owners as patients ours. So people who are, you know, type A personalities really driven, really successful. They ultimately show up in my office because their energy or their health is starting to interfere with their ability to perform to produce to keep going. And they they recognize that they need to change something. So that's always the first step right, the recognition that something needs to change. A lot of it has to do with educating them about what needs to change. So for example, if you're chronically dehydrated, if all you're drinking is caffeine throughout the day to keep yourself going and then you you're going out to business dinners and drinking alcohol, you're going to be chronically dehydrated, because both caffeine and alcohol are diuretics that are pulling fluid out of your body. And dehydration can lead to many symptoms, including exhaustion, but also it can actually induce anxiety, right because when you're dehydrated, your heart rate increases. And when your heart most people when they when their heart is racing, they become anxious. And dehydration also throws off your salt and fluid balance and then you you just become mineral imbalanced as well which creates more it can create some mental health symptoms. So the first thing is education and giving recommendations. So I had to do this this week I had a patient who was heavily drinking espresso is every morning and very low on water. And one of the things that I discovered I need to help them with is kidney function. And I told them that's the is because you're chronically dehydrated, I said, and if you continue like this, it could lead to kidney disease and kidney failure and then dialysis. So I just kind of give them a reality check on. And I asked them is that you know, is that what you want to do think that you need to change something new. And so the first thing that we decided to do is that he's going to alternate his espressos with decaf, or put a little, you know, half, half coffee have hot water, just to dilute the amount of caffeine he's ingesting. Again, just gradient ly reducing the bad stuff and increasing the good stuff. But then, as far as those bad habits about, I'm just gonna grab, you know, a bagel from on my way to work from a store, or a croissant, I will give them alternative suggestions that are easy to implement. So that is the key, you can't ask people to do something that either they feel like they cannot do or that they're not willing to make the effort to do. So for example, recently, I had a patient who was stopping in a deli for a bacon egg and cheese on a roll for breakfast. And I said, Okay, why don't you bring your own better quality bread, here's a brand of bread, that's actually got nothing bad in it. It's not even made out of flour, it's much better for you bring that with you to the deli, that's easy enough to do, right, grab a couple of slices of bread on your way out and ask them to make the sandwich on that bread. So a lot of people do that a lot of people are gluten intolerant. So they can eat the bread in a store or restaurant, they'll bring their own bread, the deli zakenna mind, it saves them money because they're so going to charge you the same thing for the sandwich. But you know, they're not using their bread. And it's a starting point. Right. So now you've eliminated the bed roll or the you know, the bad bagel that they're eating in the morning. And then you go from there. And there's, there's a lot of stuff that happens because sometimes when you're working in office, they'll bring in bad stuff, they'll bring in doughnuts, they'll bring in pizza, it's an ongoing conversation. Changing the way you eat is a process, it's not a quick fix. So if they feel peer pressure, oh, you can just have one slice, it's not going to hurt you, I actually give them a response. To say no on, I'm going to this nutritionist and I found out that I'm allergic to meat. And I'm spending money on on trying to fix my health. And if I eat this, it's just it's gonna cost me more money, you know, just whatever, whatever they they feel comfortable saying that they may have to do this with family members, moms that are trying to push food into into you that you've been told is not good for you. So we're giving them words to say we're giving them alternatives to try. And then eventually we start getting too easy meal prepping, you know, it is actually necessary to put some effort. If you want to eat well, you have to put some effort into it. So I tell them, look how fortunate you are, you know, because there's technology because there's electricity and indoor plumbing and on all these conveniences that you have. You don't have to go out hunting for your food. You don't have to go gathering, you don't have to go fetch water. You don't have to chop wood to make a fire. You know, look how easy you have it. And just to give them some perspective on the fact that just because they can't, you know now press the A button to make food appear that they have to do a little bit of chopping and a little bit of stirring, that it's still something that's much easier than the way our ancestors had to get their food. Wow.

Dr. Alice Lee: 34:18

I love that. I I would love to have you come back for another podcast because this is such useful information. For everyone. I'm going to end with one last question which I think is really relevant. You know, food is almost as close in some ways emotionally, as love and nurturing. And so obviously your way of handling people's nutrition must be very nurturing and kind and patient so people can trust you and that they can bring you their food diaries and not feel like you're gonna be judging them in a negative way. And so all of that is very nurturing. Writing. But I think ultimately, we're up against some ideas that people might have that if they have a stressful day, if they want something to make themselves feel better, they have to go to the sugars, or they have to do something indulging to kind of feed themselves because it has become a meshed with this idea that this is love, or this is how I take care of my stress or loss or whatever it is. And if we can, have you shared your wisdom about how to you handle people who said, Oh, you know, Dr. Cory, I had such a stressful day, you know, like, we every day, I had to have like, five chocolate chip cookies just to get by, you know, whatever it is, how do you respond to that kind of mentality and paradigm?

Unknown: 35:58

Great question. And it's so common, so we call this emotional eating. And so many people do it, I used to be an emotional eater myself, so I can totally identify with it. What's interesting is when you start eating real nutrient dense diet with real foods, that kind of goes away, it doesn't even work anymore. So I can't now try to feed my my soul, my sadness with sugar, because I just makes me feel sick. But here's the approach that's very effective when you're under stress, or when you're unhappy. When you've gone through a loss when you're when you have grief. When you've gone through a hard time in life, I can guarantee you that you've become mineral deficient, especially if you're eating processed foods. So minerals come from good quality soil. With that's fertilized with natural fertilizer. That's why we like the small scale family farms that are using natural fertilizer because we know there are minerals in the soil, the nutrition comes from the soil goes into the food and then into your body. If you're not eating mineral rich foods, you are mineral deficient. And then when you're under a lot of stress, you're burning more minerals, and that now you're now you have negative minerals in your body. When you are mineral deficient, it will be much more difficult for you to handle stress. And you will start developing symptoms. They could be anxiety, depression, insomnia, things like that it actually can cause any symptom. It causes a lot of mental health and symptoms when you're mineral deficient or mineral imbalance. And that's when you'll start having these sugar cravings. And that's when it really feels like sugar is, is fixing it at least temporarily. But it's not actually sugar is pulling more minerals out of your body sugar interferes with your body's absorption of minerals. So now you've actually made yourself worse and it becomes a vicious cycle. So one of the solutions is to feed people good quality mineral supplements, we actually have minerals, I call them chill pills. So they're, they're just minerals. Nothing else is in love. But as you start repeating the minerals in your body, things calm down, you're able to handle stress better. I had just one quick, funny story. I had a patient who was had anxiety she presented with anxiety is one of the many symptoms that she had. And she was doing very well changing her diet, but she was in process. And she worked. She's a nanny, and she worked for an employer, the mom of the child that she was a nanny for was a very nasty person. Very toxic, very mean. So this is the story. The patient told me. The mom asked her to work the Sunday and she said no I can't I already have other plans. She wasn't supposed to work that day. And the mom started ranting at her and yelling at her and said with the money I pay you. You should never say no to me. And so my patient, I told her if you're ever in a situation where you're feeling very stressed, you can take some extra of your stress minerals there, you can't overdose on them. They're not high doses. You just take as many as you need until you feel calm. So while the mom was screaming at her, she started taking. She said she took eight and she said this was the first time that she didn't get upset. She didn't run away crying. She didn't melt down. She didn't unravel. She felt totally calm. And then at the end of the rant she said once again to her employer. I'm so sorry, but I can't work this Sunday. And she said for the first time the mom just like, shut up, and then said, Oh, I'm so sorry. You know, I don't want to lose you. You're the best nanny we've ever had. Listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a bonus and actually, hands her handed her some money. So I'm like, wow, the stress minerals can actually help you make more money too.

Dr. Alice Lee: 40:20

Well, can you help the audience know how they can get those chill pills?

Unknown: 40:26

Yes. So on my website, Dr. cory.com, go on shop. And then there's a drop down menus, shop Standard Process supplements and they're on there. They're called min Tran. So Min is her mineral and Tran is her tranquilizer. So it's not like taking a pharmaceutical they don't I'm on it right now. They don't knock you out. They just, they just regulate your nervous system. So if your nervous system is hyperactive, it helps it to run at a normal pace. And all it's doing is giving you some magnesium and calcium and iodine. And so there's a lot of nutrients that people become depleted of when they're under stress. And minerals are a big one. Um, there's a lot more we could talk. We if we want to do this, again, specifically talking about other nutrients that help with mental health symptoms.

Dr. Alice Lee: 41:23

Yeah, definitely. We really want to thank you for answering some really tough questions about nutrients and how it has an impact on people and how deficiency can cause much more anxiety and things like that. I want to let you know where you can reach Dr. Cory. She has a website and it's Dr. cory.com, Dr. cori.com. And you can find her on on YouTube through Dr. Corey Sturm, this is really great information. I've learned a lot from your approach because I do think that your approach of being gentle with people and having things evolve gradually and organically with your diet is a really wise approach for patients. And I think that it just comes from probably many many years of experience that you've come across that you are able to share that wisdom for those who've liked what you've heard. Please subscribe to this podcast for more helpful information and give this podcast a positive rating. I hope you'll subscribe to my website holistic psychiatrists.com where you'll find more wonderful articles, podcasts and links to all my social media platforms. And if you wish to integrate high quality nutritional supplements from reputable sources, and support my holistic psychiatry practice, please register for full scripts free online dispensary. That helps keep you supplied with the industry's largest catalog of professional grade supplements available on my website under the Products tab. Thank you again Dr. Gray for being on my podcast. I look forward to sharing more insights with the audience here through podcasts and articles and hope you'll thrive as you build your life from the bottom. Thank you for listening. Bye bye.

Marc Ronick: 43:15

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