Transitioning from this life to next - We're Never Alone

The intent of this interview with my guest Julie Ryan, Psychic & Medical Intuitive is to help lessen the fear we as a Society have around dying and death and begin to understand and see them differently.   Her books Angelic Attendants: What Really Happens As We Transition From This Life Into the Next;  Angel Messages for Kids and Angel Messages for Dogs have been written to help us.

You'll get to meet Pope Clement and his importance in her life and learn how Julie, an inventor, entrepreneur learned how to be a psychic and medical intuitive 25 yrs ago and now uses these skills to help others with the many challenges we face in life.

Hear her talk about the 12 phases of transition and listen to her explanation of the process a person experiences after they die. During what is normally an incredibly heart-wrenching time, families almost always experience profound comfort once Julie describes what’s happening from the perspective of the spirit world.

Now for any of our listeners, Julie has offered you  FREE copies of her books.  You can connect with her here:  https://askjulieryan.com/ask-julie/ and she'll send them to you.  Be sure to mention you heard her on the Let's Talk About Grief with Anne Podcast.

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Transcript

Anne DeButte: 0:02

Hello and welcome listeners to another podcast in the series Let's Talk About Grief to help you gain more understanding about the grief that is experienced as a result of loss. We often delve into dying and death to give you further insight to lessen any fear that you may have. And our show today will indeed be delving a little deeper into this topic. Hi, I'm your host and your grief and loss coach and author of Grief's Abyss. I'm beyond thrilled and delighted to introduce our guest, Julie Ryan to you today. Before I do that, I'd like to share a little bit about her. Julie is a psychic and medical intuitive and has been for 25 years. She's also an inventor and entrepreneur, has founded nine companies from medical to data privacy, and I'm thrilled to say that she has now settled into her talents as a psychic and medical intuitive. Julie's going to be sharing from her buffet of psychicness, as she likes to say. Welcome, Julie, and thank you so much for being with us.

Julie Ryan: 1:19

It's my delight. Thank you for having me and what an honor to be with you today.

Anne DeButte: 1:26

What made you decide to focus on your medical, intuitive and psychic abilities, as opposed to the business side seeing as you were so successful?

Julie Ryan: 1:35

I still have some businesses that are operating. And I have wonderful people that helped me run them. It was five years ago, in 2015, I sold my surgical device manufacturing company and I had been studying medical intuition and psychic things I call it woowoo for about 30 years. Just because I was interested in it, never thinking that I would do anything with it. Then one day I was with my mentor and teacher and she was doing a healing on me. When she's doing a healing on me or when I'm working with others, spirits will show up for me, these are all my deceased loved ones. And so imagine I'm on a massage table face up, I'm laying on a table with a blankie on and I'm all comfy and cozy, and she's doing energy healing on me. My deceased loved ones are always in the room, and they always participate in the healing. Well, one day this dead Pope showed up, the spirit that is of a dead Pope. He had the hat and the red robes. And I said, Who are you? And he said, I'm Pope Clement. And I said, he didn't even say Pope. He said, I'm Clement and I said, there was no Pope Clement, I never heard of a Pope Clement and I went through 12 years of Catholic school. So I had never heard of Pope Clement. And he said, Yeah, I was number six. I said, Okay, can I help you? Kind of like why are you here? And my mentor, Susan could see him as well. So he said, Well, you're just supposed to teach the world about what happens when somebody dies, because people are so afraid. And it's been bastardized over the millennia, and you know the truth and you need to teach the world. And I started laughing at that. I said, I'm not doing that. I'm a businesswoman. People are gonna think I'm nuts. And he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, just get on with it, you know, Just do it! So I leave to go home, and I'm in the car and just for kicks, I went on the internet to research Pope Clement the sixth. Well I find out he was in office during the black plague when two thirds of Europe died. Yeah, he's best known for his prayers for the dying and his prayers for the dead. I say to myself, Ryan, you can't make that stuff up. That started me on a trajectory and it took several years till I had enough courage literally, I call it golden ovary courage because you know, guys have brass balls and girls have golden ovaries.

Anne DeButte: 4:09

Oh, there you go, I like that

Julie Ryan: 4:11

Yeah, yeah and I thought, Oh my gosh, you know, I have these businesses and how am I going to do this. And so that's how it happened when I sold my medical device manufacturing company. Pretty soon thereafter, I was in church and my son and my husband were on either side of me. And the Priest started talking in his sermon about wouldn't it be fabulous if someone could really tell us if we're surrounded by angels and deceased loved ones when we die. So I'm getting elbowed from either side from my husband and son. I thought God, really, from the pulpit in church from the priest, really. And so that's what started this whole journey for me and it's been five years going on six It is so different from how I've always run my businesses with business plans and goals and measurables, and how much of this are you selling, what's this quota La la la la la?With this I'm just going where I'm lead and it's really been an adventure.

Anne DeButte: 5:17

Oh, my goodness. And does he still show up?

Julie Ryan: 5:22

Oh yeah, all the time. Oh, and he treats me like, I'm a Nike ad. Because when I tell him why I can't do things, he'll say, Oh, just do it. And then I do it.

Anne DeButte: 5:32

And that gives you the confidence of the golden overies!

Julie Ryan: 5:35

yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I tell you a funny story about my worst fear was, I thought, Okay, I'm gonna start doing this woowoo stuff. And I'm gonna have a website up for my book and I'm gonna be in some business meeting, and somebody is gonna give me grief about it. So I was lecturing at this huge conference in Austin, Texas, with all these CEOs. And I thought, ok I'm just gonna put it up anyways, and we'll just see what happens. I'm in Austin, Texas. And I finished my talk, double jumbotrons, you know, either side of the stage and a whole nine yards, with mostly men in the audience. And at the break, we were going into lunch, and we were in a couple of ballrooms at a big hotel. And so that lunch was going to be in the next ballroom over. And this man came up to me, after I finished my talk with his iPad, open to my Ask Julie Ryan.com page, okay. And he said, Is this you? And I want to say, Well, duh, it's my picture. Yes, it's me. And he said, I'm really interested in knowing more. Can we sit together at lunch? And I thought, Oh, here we go. I'm just gonna get harassed at lunch. So I said, Sure. And I'm thinking, yeah, so I sit at this table of eight. There were seven men, they're all CEOs of companies in the Austin area. And we talked about woowoo the whole time.

Anne DeButte: 7:06

And they were so interested I take it?

Julie Ryan: 7:09

Yes so interested, the conversation, they were firing questions at me so fast, like I really didn't hardly have time to eat my lunch. What it did was it made me realize that what I was fearing really was irrational that was a huge indicator to me, from God, the universe, spirit, all of the above, saying, you don't need to be afraid of this. Go ahead and be yourself, put yourself out there. It's gonna help people. That was my indoctrination into people being worried about what people would think that I'm nuts maybe people still think I'm nuts. But I don't really care.

Anne DeButte: 7:43

It really doesn't matter. It's a message clearly that you've been tasked with to just do it. Yeah, what a testament to have seven males be interested.

Julie Ryan: 7:56

Well, in all big business guys who are linear thinkers who wanted to know about this.

Anne DeButte: 8:04

Thats fabulous. So that was your opening? Did you get on with the regular conference? Or did that creep into it?

Julie Ryan: 8:12

Yeah. Yeah, I was just a speaker. So I was in and gave my talk and then left the next day. No, it was really lovely. And some of them are still on my mailing list now, my email list

Anne DeButte: 8:25

Isn't that so heartening to hear. Because I mainly coach women. And that's what I'll say I coach women. But what about men? Well, my answer to that is because men don't ask typically. I have coached men, but it's it's mainly women. So that's encouraging to know that they, too, are interested

Julie Ryan: 8:51

Well, in every once in a while, and it's usually a man will say to me, not very often, but every once in a while, they'll say, Well, I just don't believe in that stuff. You have to convince me. And I'll say, Well, really, I don't. If you want to talk about this, I'm happy to talk with you. If you want to talk about the weather or sports or whatever, I'm happy to talk with you about that. You know, when I say that, then they'll say, Oh, well, no, no, no, you know, maybe, just Just tell me about it. Or I'll say, Well, obviously, maybe this just isn't for you. And I'll say let's talk about something else. And they'll say no, no, I want to it I have questions. Everybody has questions. Everybody has questions. They just don't want to admit it. Yeah, they're afraid. They're afraid they're gonna look like crazy people.

Anne DeButte: 9:38

And that's okay. Welcome to our club. Whoo, whoo is good.

Julie Ryan: 9:44

Exactly.

Anne DeButte: 9:45

Especially now I'm finding that there is a lot of science facts that back up what it is, you're saying. You've authored three books. I understand.

Julie Ryan: 9:58

That's right.

Anne DeButte: 10:00

And I'll allow you to share the third one with the listeners because I was not aware of it before now.

Julie Ryan: 10:07

Well it just came out about a month and a half ago.

Anne DeButte: 10:10

Beautiful. The one I'm really, really interested in it, and I feel certain that our listeners will be as well is the Angelic Attendants. And here you mentioned that there are 12 phases of transition.

Julie Ryan: 10:27

Correct

Anne DeButte: 10:28

With dying,

Julie Ryan: 10:29

Right?

Anne DeButte: 10:30

Would you like to share?

Julie Ryan: 10:31

Sure, everybody goes through as we're dying, everybody goes through what I have coined that to be the 12 phases of transition. And it's a series of events Anne that includes angels and spirits of deceased loved ones and deceased pets that show up, They assume different configurations as the person is approaching death. And everybody goes through this, whether their death is instant, like in the case of a homicide or suicide, or whether it's prolonged over days, weeks, months. And it provides a glorious component to the dying process, a process that we're all afraid of, because like Pope Clement told me that first day he showed up, it's just been bastardized throughout the ages, and, and religions and cultures and civilizations have ruled and controlled people with fear. I mean, my goodness, look at this whole pandemic thing, talk about fear, modern day. And that's how they've used to control people. So again, my parish priest, Father, John Vallon, he said from the pulpit one day, he said, people are so afraid to die, because they don't know if they're gonna fly, or they're gonna fry, which I thought was perfect. That was a great way to put it. And I'm here to tell you, everybody goes to heaven. Everybody is surrounded by angels, nobody dies alone. And our deceased loved ones are here to greet us and lead us into paradise. Interestingly enough, there's a prayer said at the end of every Roman Catholic funeral that's called In Paradisum, which in Latin translates to into paradise. And it talks about how your loved ones in the angels will greet you and lead you into paradise. And when I was writing Angelic Attendance, I researched where did that prayer originate, and learned that it started as a fifth century Gregorian chant. And I have to believe that people since the beginning of time have been able to see what I see telepathically in my mind's eye. And just as we've become more well educated, we've dismissed all of our intuitive abilities most of us, and we've been taught, if there isn't proof for it, that it's not real. Well, we know that that's not true. But it tickles me because I think perhaps it took till the fifth century, till someone was really learned enough to be able to read and write and write down a prayer that surrounded what happens when somebody dies. And certainly back then the most well educated people were men. And oftentimes they were monks, or rabbis living in a monastery or a synagogue. They were the keepers of the records, they were the ones who are well educated. So I find that fascinating that, you know, here we come around full circle. And this is what I see in my mind's eye when I'm working with a family who has a loved one who's dying. This is what I teach my students to do, too. I teach people all over the world how to do all this buffet of psychicness woowoo stuff that I do.

Anne DeButte: 13:48

I love that buffet of psychicness. Well, just going back to what you said that there is a prayer in the Roman Catholic Church, I guess the teaching, probably through fear, where if you weren't good, or you did bad things, you will going to go to hell. And also, if somebody chooses suicide, they couldn't be buried on consecrated ground. So it's interesting that is a prayer that said to this day? Yet, it sort of flies in the face of the church's beliefs over the years.

Julie Ryan: 14:35

Well, don't you find that there are lots of things that contradict really what when you go down to the root of what the teaching is? Well, you think about all the times that it's been translated into different languages and edited out for political reasons, but you got the King James version of the Bible, and you got the Council of Nicea in whatever year that was and they changed all that stuff They would change it for the time. And a lot of it had to do with what the narrative was at the time. I mean, we see that in the news now, current day, things are changed. So that there's a narrative that's presented that's going to accomplish whatever someone's objective is. And it's important, especially with suicide, people, I think that we all decide when we go, where we go, how we go, who's with us when we go. And every funeral director everywhere in the world has lots of stories about how the family was with grandma for three weeks, and it was aunt Susie's turn to sit with grandma and Aunt Susie got left the room to go get a cup of coffee, and grandma died while she was out of the room. There are countless stories that validate that. And the other thing is, if we all decide when, where how we go, and with whom, if anyone, really all death is a form of suicide, if you look at it that way. So since we all decide someone who commits suicide, and I've talked to many, many, many spirits of people who've committed suicide over the years, they tell me, it was quick, it was easy and I wa ready to go. I just didn't wa t to prolong it. I've talked to people who've taken their own li es when they were sick. I kn w a man who had ALS. And he li ed in a state here in the US wh re he could take a pill, and it s legal. Now there are a few st tes where people can commit su cide with medicine that just st ps their heart. And then I've ta ked to his spirit multiple ti es since and he said, I I we t through enough and my fa ily went through enough. I di n't want to do it anymore.

Anne DeButte: 16:45

Okay,

Julie Ryan: 16:45

Thats all fine because all death is a form of suicide when you look at it that way.

Anne DeButte: 16:51

Because you're choosing

Julie Ryan: 16:53

Exactly

Anne DeButte: 16:55

Here in Canada, we have medical assistance in dying(MAID). There's obviously a lot of controversy over that. But so far, the reports are the families, usually their death is imminent, and it can be for the neurological diseases. And once they've made that decision, there's a peace that happens upon them, knowing that the decisions been made, they've got the day that the death will happen. And they're at peace with it.

Julie Ryan: 17:33

And it helps the family be at peace, too, because that person's choosing that.

Anne DeButte: 17:37

Yes.

Julie Ryan: 17:38

Yeah. Good point,

Anne DeButte: 17:40

Bringing it back to something that you said in this COVID related year, a number of families haven't been able to be in hospital or in the nursing homes with their loved ones. And in their minds they are thinking, did they suffer? Were they afraid to die alone? And that seems to be a prevailing thought, are they suffering?

Julie Ryan: 18:12

Are they suffering when they're dying? Or are they suffering now that they're deceased?

Anne DeButte: 18:16

Were they're suffering as they were dying?

Julie Ryan: 18:21

Well, I think each case is individual. I think certainly there have been lots of people that have died by themselves. And to your point, especially right now, with these hospitals and nursing homes, having these restrictions and loved ones not being able to be there. What I hear from people after they've passed is that it's a glorious transition for them. It's easy, it's glorious. It's an adventure, and they're out of pain, and they're all in heaven. And "it's heaven". I'm saying with quotation mark, and that they can be with their loved ones whenever they want in spirit form, which is really a wonderful thing. And I am happy to teach you and your listeners how to communicate with their deceased loved ones if you'd like. I think that people who are left behind have a lot of guilt about not being able to be there. And that's when the 12 phases of transition come into play. If you can focus on they were surrounded by angels and their deceased loved ones, 1000s of them. As well, every spirit of every pet that's deceased that they ever had. It's really a glorious transition. So nobody ever dies alone.

Anne DeButte: 19:41

Okay, so knowing that has to be comforting to any of our listeners if they've experienced a death during this time to know that even though they weren't there, they did not die alone.

Julie Ryan: 19:55

right

Anne DeButte: 19:56

I wanted to ask you about pets. I wondered if pets came to help them transition as well. But you've answer that.

Julie Ryan: 20:04

They do. And it's really funny and because sometimes they'll be farm animals spirits in the room like horses and cows and chickens and pigs and things like that. And and I'll say, Well, did your grandmother grow up on a farm? Or does she live on a farm now? And always there's that and they'll say, oh, I'll describe maybe a horse or a cow. And they'll say, Oh, yeah, that was Triger. That was Bessie, the cow or, or whomever. And every once in a while I'll see snakes and bunnies, and ferrets and th ngs like that animals like t at, too. And it's always that hat person's had that animal s a pet, or multiple animals s a pet, I described dogs. And when a family is going through the dying process of a loved ne, when we're able to say, kay, there's a Collie in the oom, and there's a brown German hepherd, and there's a tabby at, and there's a parakeet. You ust make that stuff up. And hey'll say, Oh, yeah, that was y dad's pet, when he was rowing up, or that was a family og that we had when I the child as growing up, and then it akes it more real. And then hen we start to describe what ome of the deceased loved ones, ow they appear. And then again, t makes it tangible and elievable, because we don't now these people, we don't know ho their relatives were who've een dead for 30 years, we idn't know what pets they had s a child growing up. So it's eally, it's really remarkable. nd people find it to be very omforting.

Anne DeButte: 21:46

Yes, I would imagine it is. And I think, for any of us, we know that death will happen at some point, I like hearing that it gives you comfort, knowing that when it is your turn, your loved ones are there, and any pets.

Julie Ryan: 22:05

Well people are so afraid. And when we have a loved one who's dying, and I know you run into this all the time, it makes us face our own mortality, quite frankly, and there's a little tape in the back of our heads, and Ooh, I'm gonna be there someday I wonder what's really happening. You know, this is scary. That's number one. Number two, a lot of the time, a person is afraid to die when they're at the end stages. And so there's a technique or an exercise that I'll do with somebody who's dying from the spiritual side of the equation, and I call it the Walk to Heaven. And we'll do a dress rehearsal of what's going to happen at that moment when their spirit separates from their body. And so I'll take my spirit out of my body join their spirit, which hangs on to the top of their head. At the end of their lives, it looks like a cartoon caption bubble that you'd see with the cartoon characters words or thoughts in it. Okay, and then we'll walk through the desert. And we'll walk into the setting sun. And then once we get into the setting sun, we walk into this black hole, I equate it to a wormhole like astronomers talk about in an outer space. And we go through that. And once we enter the black hole, there's this gravity force that pulls us forward. It's almost like we can't resist it. And then once we get to the end of the black hole, and the black hole has no sight or sound or temperature, and we're moving very fast. And then what happens is we get to the pearly gates of heaven. I've never seen St Peter sitting out front with a clipboard, checking off names of who's allowed in and who's not. I've never seen a stone wall or gates or anything what it appears to me heaven appears to me as this big, bright, white yellowish plasma wall, and we go through it and it seals up immediately, as soon as we enter it. And there's no trace of us ever coming through it. And once we get through the plasma wall, all our deceased loved ones are there waiting for them, and I call them the Welcome to Heaven Committee. Once the person who's dying sees that, oftentimes they want to just stay and I will say no, no, you know, we got to go back. This is just a dress rehearsal, but I want you to see what's going to happen. And there have been many times in where I've done that exercise with someone and we get there and a loved one's holding an infant or a toddler and I'll say, Your mom's spirits holding an infant and she's saying that it's not her baby. Well, it'll be one of her children's miscarried baby or baby that died when they were young. Or maybe a stillborn baby. And that shows up more times than I can remember. And then we'll validate it with they'll validate it with whoever the family member is that lost the child, if they know right away, they'll say, Oh, well, my sister, you know, had a stillborn baby or my sister's baby died when it was a couple months old or something like that. And again, that gives the credibility there where they're able to process the information easier in their mental human capacity.

Anne DeButte: 25:34

Yeah.

Julie Ryan: 25:34

And I use analogies a lot to give us a frame of reference for our human minds to all this woowoo stuff. but when we've got something that comes up, that there's no way we could know about it. Then the family says, Okay, well, maybe what she's talking about really is right.

Anne DeButte: 25:52

So it gives you credibility at the same time. They're more ready to believe you.

Julie Ryan: 25:57

Yeah more believability, right,

Anne DeButte: 25:58

Yeah, they're more ready to listen to what it is you're saying. That is interesting that you talk about stillborn and babies being there. The death of a child is heartbreaking to witness for the parents. And often they all say it's just not right, and that they've died out of turn. What would you say to those parents to give them some comfort?

Julie Ryan: 26:31

First of all, they were surrounded by angels and deceased loved ones and the spirits of deceased pets. Number one, number two, their spirit is around you all the time. And you can communicate with them at any time. And number three, back to the concept that we all choose when we go where we go, how we go, all of that. That's what their spirit wanted to experience. So perhaps in a past life, and we live 1000s of lifetimes in past lives are so much fun to get into, seriously, because oftentimes we'll get information about when it was where it was that kind of thing. I don't hypnotize people you may have heard of, of people that will hypnotize someone to do a past life. I do what I call past life scans. And so will ask a question like, "Do I have a past life in which I was an artist", and then a bunch of the past lives will show up and I'll say,"Show me the one that correlates the most with this person's current life". I'll get where it was, when it was all that information. It'll be like I'm walking into a movie. And we'll get all this information. Oftentimes, we can corroborate the information we get with historical documents that are online. And that's really fun when that happens, but when I'm talking to a family who's lost a child, especially, because it's hard for them to wrap their heads around, absolutely, Why would my child choose to go now, that doesn't make any sense. And I'll say you don't know what their spirit came into explore perhaps, in a or many past lives they were a parent who lost a child, they were a grandparent, a sibling or a friend of a whatever. In this round. They wanted to experience what it was like to be the child who died. And likewise, the same with their spirits, the parents spirits, perhaps they died as a child in a past life. And they wanted to experience this time what it was like to have a child that they want. And it it gives them something to ponder. And is it true? Well, it's feasible. So it's, it's a possibility. It's what I received from spirit is what happens. And when we understand that time doesn't exist in the spirit world. Time is a human creation. And so 100 lifetimes of 100 years, each lifetime, maybe isn't even a blip on the radar screen. So when we think about Okay, I was a parent the last 15 lifetimes we lost a child and I wanted to feel what it was like to be the child this round. Same with aborted babies, same with miscarried babies. Same with stillborn babies. It's all the same concept. We all decide where we're born when we're born to whom we're born. So our lives will have a basic trajectory that will allow our spirit to experience whatever it is we want to experience, which is a very generalized intention. And then freewill comes in and we can choose a lot of ways to experience that lots of ways in in a lifetime.

Anne DeButte: 29:46

Yeah.

Julie Ryan: 29:47

And I find that those explanations give a lot of comfort.

Anne DeButte: 29:53

I was going to say yes, I could only imagine that it would.

Julie Ryan: 29:57

There's a story in my book too. About Special Needs young woman she was 21, who drowned in her bathtub one night and her mother, she had the mentality of like a five or six year old. Yeah, vaccine injured, interestingly enough, okay, and got a vaccine and had seizures that cause brain damage. So it was really horrific. But anyways, she died and that my book has lots of stories in it about families with whom I've worked. And she told us when we talked to her spirit afterwards, there were some really miraculous things that happened, of things that she wanted her mom and her sister to go look for, like a locket that was in her jewelry drawer. And they didn't know what she was talking about. And they went and they found it. And they opened it up. And it had a picture of the mom and the daughter in it, the two women with whom I was talking,

Anne DeButte: 30:54

Wow,

Julie Ryan: 30:54

I wanted sanctity and blah, blah, blah, blah, yeah, when all of this happened. And so things like that. But anyway, she talked about how, what her goal was in this incarnation, and she wanted to spread different things. I don't even remember what all of them were about. One of them was tenacity and love and working with special needs children who are bringing messages that perhaps we just don't even pay attention to them. It was sanctity. And I forget what all of them were, but it was very distinct. blah, there are four things. Whoa, that's pretty advanced for someone with a fifth grade or a five year old mentality. But again, she was in spirit form when she was talking about that. And we have access to Universal intelligence.

Anne DeButte: 31:47

Oh, my goodness, I think the listeners would probably enjoy very much learning how they can communicate. And they're probably going is she ever going to ask?

Julie Ryan: 32:00

yeah, I forgot about that. So here's how it works. Our heads are big satellite dishes. And they were given they transmit frequencies. Every spirit has their own frequency, like a radio station, you know, is 94.7. That's the megahertz that they're broadcasting on. And so every spirit has its own frequency that it keeps throughout all of its lifetimes. So that's how I connect with somebody who's deceased, is we just think of them. And it tunes our satellite dish head to their frequency, immediately come in. If I'm scanning somebody medically and doing an energetic healing on them, I think of them. So it's any spirit that's alive, any spirit that's deceased, you can communicate telepathically with them. And here's how it works. You say something, or you ask a question, or make a statement? And they're going to answer you telepathically. That's how spirits communicate, and it's going to come in, it is going to feel like it's a thought in your head. And within a second fast as you can snap your fingers. Once you start doing this, oftentimes, the responses will come in in the middle of a thought, like you're asking a question and the answer is already there. Before you even get the question thought out all the way So you know that it's spirit communicating with you when it comes in instantly. If you think about it for a couple of minutes, or a couple of seconds, excuse me, that's your brain talking to you. Okay, so it's instant. That's number one. Number two, spirit is always going to give you the correct answer. And how applicable the information is going to be will be determined on how you ask the question. For instance, if you have a deceased mom, and you say, Hey, Mom, are we going to enjoy watching the movie? And you get a yes comes in your head instantly. And you and your husband are watching a movie tonight and it's atrocious. And you don't even want to finish it. It's so awful. If you say Mom, what's up with that? Why didn't you tell us we'd enjoy the movie? Well, she gave you a correct answer because the way you asked the question was based on any movie you may see for the rest of your life. Okay, versus if you would have said Hey, Mom, are we gonna enjoy watching the movie on Netflix and name the movie tonight? See the difference? Yeah. Being very specific, very specific because spirits really literal. And the other thing is spirit will always only give you either a neutral answer or one that feels good. So if you ask spirit something and they respond with something that's spirits never gonna tell you you're an ugly slob who drools but it's just not gonna happen but spirits pure love. Yeah, they may tell you know, that it's not in your best interest to do something. But it's never going to be anything that sounds abusive or demeaning. degrading, that's your brain talking to you.

Anne DeButte: 35:02

Okay, when you get into that, so it sounds like somebody if they practice it often enough, it's a bit like listening to your intuition

Julie Ryan: 35:11

well, absolutely. And we all have the ability, we all do it. Now we just discount the information that we get. We've all had circumstances where we think of someone, and we run into them, or they text us, or they call us or they email us it was it. What a coincidence, I was just thinking of you. Well, no coincidence. That's your psychic ability working. And people have done this since the beginning of time. Think of the Aboriginal people and other indigenous tribes and people who can communicate telepathically across vast distances and have been for millennia. We all do it. We just don't we're not aware that we do it. And when we get guidance, oftentimes, you'll hear somebody say, follow your gut. And when we don't, normally we regret it.

Anne DeButte: 36:00

Oh, yes. I've had a few of those

Julie Ryan: 36:02

We all do. Yeah, it's kind of like, let me slap you upside the head and let you really pay attention here. Yeah. So it's really easy just say something, a statement or a question. And then they're going to answer you as fast as you can snap your fingers, and you can say it out loud. Or you can say it in your head, it doesn't matter.

Anne DeButte: 36:25

So there you have it, listeners, you have the ability now to be able to talk to your loved one

Julie Ryan: 36:30

Thats right ,no psychic needed.

Anne DeButte: 36:32

Well we don't want to do you out of a job here.

Julie Ryan: 36:41

I consider myself to be like a tugboat captain. I help guide people so that they can do it themselves. They can heal themselves, they can communicate themselves, you know, all of that. I'm just guiding them to be able to use the abilities that they already have. It's like we're all wearing the ruby slippers. You know, we're just not aware of it like Dorothy was the Wizard of Oz

Anne DeButte: 37:04

We just need them polished so that we can find our own power. Okay, I see what you're saying. Tell me about your second book, Angel Messages for Children.

Julie Ryan: 37:14

Okay, so messages for kids? Do you want to see it? I've got one right here, our Angel Messages for kids is a picture book. And so is Angel Messages for Dogs. That's the new one that just came out Christmas time. They are really cute, beautifully illustrated. And it's just different messages from the angels. And how these came about in was, I have so many moms over the years, say to me, my child sees my deceased grandfather who's been dead for 30 years in his bedroom at night. I can hear him on the intercom having a conversation with somebody and nobody's there. This child knows information that there's no way he could know, he's only four. Can you help me explain that to them? How can he see my dead grandfather when mommy and daddy can't? And then I've had parents say, can you please help me explain to my young child how they know information from past lives? That can be corroborated with online historical documents. And this kid can't read yet. And how do I explain to my small child when we have a death in the family? And we say, well, honey, grandma's in heaven now. And he says, because they're at the funeral home for visitation hours. And he says No, she's not. She's asleep in that box up there. You know, how do you explain that? And so that's how the books originated because I had so many moms, so I thought, well, maybe I'll write a children's book. So what did I do? I asked Pope Clement, if I was supposed to write a children's book. He's like, yeah. And I said, Well, all right. I don't even know what to write about. He said, well just just get going. But it's got to be out by Christmas. This was in 2019. Yes. I said, well, I can't get it done that fast. Because this was the end of September when I was talking to him about it. And he said, Well, yeah, you just do it! Like I said, he treats me like a Nike ad. I found the illustrator blah, blah, blah, blah, all that kind of stuff. And he's just saying it's got to be out by Christmas. Gotta be out by Christmas. Well, it was released on the 23rd of December. So it was out by Christmas. And I kept thinking why so people can buy it as a Christmas gift? Then somebody pointed out to me in March, I was on a show as a guest that originates from Australia. And the host said, Well, now you know why Pope Clement wanted that book out by Christmas. I said, Why? And she said, because that's when COVID was starting. That's when the global pandemic was starting and all these children hearing things about people dying, and they can't go to school because they don't want to get sick. And they don't want to bring bugs home that could kill their family. And even if we think that they're not paying attention, And I've done that kind of thing before they are hearing the news or hearing conversations. And this helps the child understand that we're spirits and we can communicate with spirits. And I thought, whoa, so Clement said to me, it needs to be a series, you need to really release a book every year, a children's book, in the Angel Messages series. So I'm a businesswoman, of course. So I trademark the name Angel Messages. And so this year, it was Angel Messages for Dogs. And so angels are giving dogs messages, but the messages are really for the children disguised in messages for dogs. Oh, it's just darling. And the story is I hear from moms about my child hasn't slept through the night for the first two years of his life. And he wants to read the angel book every night before we go to bed. And the first time we read it was the first time he slept through the night. And he slept through the night since

Anne DeButte: 41:13

Oh, how beautiful

Julie Ryan: 41:15

Then there's the mom who sent me an email and she said, my two year old little girl loves this book so much that we have one in her bedroom that we read every night. And we had to put one in the bag that we take with us wherever we go when we leave the house, so she can read it in the car.

Anne DeButte: 41:33

Oh my goodness. So it's resonating with children

Julie Ryan: 41:36

And it also teaches the parents that are reading it,

Anne DeButte: 41:40

I was going to say very often the parents learn also through reading.

Julie Ryan: 41:45

So they do and in the angel messages for dogs book, we talk about what happens when your dog dies, and how you can still communicate with your dog. And since we all have the ability when we come in, what normally happens is the age of about seven ish or so they've had enough adults say, well, honey, that's an imaginary friend. It's not real, you're just imagining it, or that spirit really isn't there or you're really not hearing things. So we learn to shut it down. What happens if we can foster that and validated for children? What kind of guidance can they get that can help them throughout the rest of their lives?

Anne DeButte: 42:26

Beautiful. That was one of the questions I wanted to ask you children's imaginary friends. I know I had one until I was probably about four or five. Her name was Belinda.

Julie Ryan: 42:38

Right. Right.

Anne DeButte: 42:40

No idea who Belinda was. But she was my friend.

Julie Ryan: 42:44

She was your friend, was she somebody that you could see perhaps. Did you see her or You just heard her and talk to her in your head?

Anne DeButte: 42:54

I think I saw her but I can be 100% certain now because I mean, my parents were very good about it. They encouraged me . Dad was always getting in trouble because he was always sitting on Belinda.

Julie Ryan: 43:08

Oh I love that. Oh, that's hysterical though

Anne DeButte: 43:12

I often wonder was that me being manipulative and learning that I could manipulate my parents?

Julie Ryan: 43:18

No, no, that was just you using your psychic abilities, your intuitive abilities that we all have, as a child and most children do this. I have a graduate in my class who has two little ones and they've grown now. But when she first told me this story, there were maybe four and six. And when they'd get into trouble, she'd send them to their room for a timeout. And she'd say go talk to your angels. They'd be in there for like three minutes or something, which to a three year old is an eternity. And she said they'd come back and they would repeat the conversations that they'd had with their angels. And she said that it was these advanced concepts and using vocabulary words that these children had never used before. It was very obvious that they had gotten spiritual guidance from their angels when they were in timeout in their bedroom. And even very introspective from the point of being able to say, well, Mommy, I'm going to do this differently next time. Because this is I mean, they they not only got the point they got the point like way beyond whatever the point was going.

Anne DeButte: 44:33

So the message there would be to encourage your children if they they have imaginary friends or you hear them talking to people. You have no clue about. Yeah, I guess it's ultimately their spirit guides.

Julie Ryan: 44:48

Oh, absolutely. And and even babies babies when they're before they're speaking English. They're speaking Martian and you know and nobody understands what they're saying. But they know what they're saying. And they're having a conversation with somebody. Oftentimes while they're still in their crib, as they're waking up in the morning, and they're just jabbering away with voice intonations and things like that. It's very obvious that they're having a conversation. And as parents, we just think, Oh, isn't that cute? Well, they're having a conversation with somebody that's in spirit form. That's what's going on. And the spirits understand Martian baby talk that isn't understandable by the parents or grandparents or whoever their adults are, that are taking care of them.

Anne DeButte: 45:34

Oh, what a delightful conversation, now I really would like to get into the medical intuitive work you do. How do people normally approach you?

Julie Ryan: 45:42

Normally they're having some symptoms of something. And oftentimes, they've been to multiple doctors and had multiple procedures. I talked to a woman this morning, who said, I'm lit up, because I've had every test known to mankind, you know, x rays, and CT scans and MRIs, she said, I've had so much of that dye put in me for whatever test that she said, I just feel like I glow in the dark. But her symptoms are still persisting. And she's had several surgeries and several procedures and her symptoms are still there. People come to me with things that are simple, like I have chronic sinus infections. Not that that's simple, but I've got this pain, or I've got this or whatever, or things that are very serious people that are terminally ill. I work with a lot of cancer patients. Patients have who have ALS, or Parkinson's or some illness that I'd never heard of. I had another client this morning that told me about this illness that was so rare, and she had surgery that there's only one surgeon in the whole country that does the surgery. And she flew in from out of state to have it done at a hospital where this guy worked. So though they'll call me and I'm like a human MRI, and I can I will connect with the person's spirit. Again, every spirit has their own frequency. So I'll connect with that person's spirit. And then I envisioned shooting energy from their feet up through the top of their head. And it says if I'm looking at an X ray, or a CT scan, or an MRI, three things happen. In a private session, I do a weekly radio show podcast as well, that people call in and they ask Julie Ryan, and I'll scan them and and do a healing on the show for them. But I love it when I get somebody for a whole hour. Because we can do a deep dive and I can do several passes through them. So for instance, something's identified, then immediately thereafter, there will be some type of energetic healing that will begin. And it can take the form of something getting added something getting removed. I watched procedures all the time that emulate what I saw when I was in surgery all those decades ago when I was in that industry.

Anne DeButte: 48:01

Yeah,

Julie Ryan: 48:02

Sometimes I see healings that utilize methodologies and devices that haven't been invented yet. And regardless of what I'm seeing, I'm very descriptive with the person with whom I'm working. Because if they can envision what I'm seeing, it helps integrate the healing into their body. And again, I talk in analogies a lot, and most of the time, they're pretty funny, like brain matter, it looks like the cooked oatmeal to me and other stem cell energy looks like dippity do hair gel that was big in the 60s and the 70s. I mean, it's just hilarious. And I get these visions in my head. It's like I'm watching a movie. And I will get what it looks like. And that's so that I can explain it to my client, so they get a quick understanding of what it is I'm seeing. So I'll make several passes through them. And then the third thing I do, which is the most important part of the healing, as I call it, working with the energy field membrane, and that's a container that holds the energy that comprises our body and our spirit. And when there's a tear or a hole in that membrane, it's allowing an energy leak. Energy leaks always precede any kind of medical condition. And they're caused by an emotional event either in this life or a past life. So I envisioned my causes an energy block, like in Eastern medicine, acupressure, acupuncture, clear the block, get the cheha moving that sort of concept. So what happens is that energy block gets other emotional events energy piled on top of it, eventually causing enough pressure it causes a blowout in this membrane. And the membrane reminds me of really thin stretchy saran wrap, the kind of you get on a tray of chicken breasts from the grocery store. You know that that kind of plastic wrap. So I'll go in and I'll be shown a scene and I'll be given the year and where it was and when it was and a little about what happened. As soon as we illuminated it eradicates that energy block, that membrane heals, the body can work on full power, and it helps the body heal and helps it maintain health. So a quick analogy how I describe this is, imagine going to the pet store and buying a goldfish, they're going to put it in a plastic bag of water in order for you to get it home. So if you have a picture of that, in your mind's eye, the fish represents our body, the water represents our spirit. And the plastic bag represents our energy filled membrane, because the bodies inside the spirit, the spirits are power center, that's the main part of us. So if there's a pinhole in that plastic bag, and water is draining out a drop at a time, for a long time, that fish is going to be all right. But when enough water drains out, that fish is going to be in trouble. And that's what happens to the human body. We have energy leaks in our energy field membrane. over long periods of time. Medical issues arise as a result of our body not working on full power. So we fix that. That membrane heals, the body can work on full power, the body's always going to do what it needs to do to regain health. And sometimes the healing is death. You know, sometimes that's the healing for people. And so, again, I consider myself to be the guide. It's Spirit working through me and with me, and we're all healing ourselves. I'm just helping guide people to heal themselves, because they're picturing what I'm seeing. So they're integrating all of that into their body. And that's, that's the work that I do. It's so much fun.

Anne DeButte: 51:48

Oh gosh it sounds so much fun. Sure beats nursing. Well, to be able to see what you do as well.

Julie Ryan: 51:59

It's complimentary to Western and Eastern medicine as I see it. Interesting case in point, my husband got a new knee last week. He's had both of his knees replaced in the past four months. And I had given the surgeon one of my books. I told him, I said, I can do what's called remote viewing. So I can see what's going on in the operating room while he's in there with my husband doing surgery and deceased loved ones and angels are in the operating room, by the way.

Anne DeButte: 52:30

So they're there as well with the person?

Julie Ryan: 52:33

Yes they're there al o. So anyway, I said to him, hen he came to see me when my husband was in the recover room, I said to him, Well, his may look like you needed to weak it a lot more to get the i plant in more so than the oth r one. I was describing hat I was seeing with him tw aking to get the implant int his knee into his leg. He sta ted laughing. He said, Yeah, you re absolutely right. I said, Ye h, no, I was watching you. He s id, Okay. I mean, he took it at ace value. And if he hadn't, I on't think he'd read the book y t. But I'll bet you he went an started reading my book. Bec use there's no way you. Yeah yeah. But this is what I t ach others how to do all this tuff.

Anne DeButte: 53:16

Gosh, well, it reminds me of patients, (I'm an old nurse by the way) that were resuscitated, they had died, but were brought back again. They would tell stories about where everybody was, what the process was. I nursed in the days of Florence Nightingale, long before it was fashionable to watch hospital shows on TV. So if people were telling you these stories about what went on, you tended to believe them. That leads back to what you were saying, when you take the person on a trial journey. They do go to that place or they're hovering above their body. Obviously at some point, is it the electrical current pulling them back? Or they've been told? No, it's not your time?

Julie Ryan: 54:13

I think both that happens, but we all decide, our spirit decides. So if they're told no, it's not your time. That's the message that their spirit is conveying to itself in a way that it makes sense to them so they can process it. Okay? Because spirit is all the same. I equate it with, if we turned ourselves into water, and we poured ourselves into the Pacific Ocean, we would be the Pacific Ocean. And that's how spirit is. So when we raise our vibrational level, we're able to access spirit. It's like we've turned ourselves into water and poured ourselves into the Pacific Ocean. We've turned ourselves into spirit. We are spirit. We're a spark of the Divine. We are pure spirit, but we raise our vibrational level to be able to access spirit. And then we can take it anywhere we want. Because when we're attached to a body, we vibrate more slowly, simply because the body has mass. And an analogy that I use is imagine trying to run in an electrical current through a bowl of pudding, it's good to slow it down, because it's got mass, right, but back to your point about the near death experiences. I think it's fascinating in the research that's been done by big time academics with lots of alphabet soup in the under their names because they have so many degrees, I find that it's so fascinating that these people with near death experiences regardless of their culture, their country, their education level, their socioeconomic status, all of that all report, similar, if not the same experiences. And that all correlates with what I talked about with the 12 phases of transition. Because as the spirit is exiting the body, it holds on to the top of the head, as I mentioned, like a bubble And around phase nine or so. And there, there are

Anne DeButte: 56:11

Okay angels on either side of the Spirit bubble, their wings begin to move, and it creates a vortex with an upward pull That reminds me of being in the car and driving through the carwash. When we're at the end the dryers are on it's sucking all the water off your car. So the first time I saw that was with my own mother and I thought, am I having a midlife crisis here or something? What is this? So I had seen it many, many other times. And when I wrote Angelic Attendants, just for kicks, I thought, well, I'm gonna research this, It reminded me of a giant owl, whose wings are very big and silent. But you can almost feel the drag that an owl's wings create when they move. So just for kicks, I checked on the internet, I think I put the words in vortex wings, owl And come to find out. There's this thing called the wing tip vortex. That is an aeronautical engineering term, that every bird, every plane, every bug, every kite, anything that flies, there's a wingtip vortex that gets underneath it and creates lift, and that's what makes it raise. Okay. To your point science catching up with what, whoowo, they made her. All right, again, you know, I can't make this stuff up. No for sure you can't. Ok, is there a last final word you'd like to leave our listeners with?

Julie Ryan: 57:44

Sure if anybody wants a wants to read Angelic Attendance, or my children's books, I'm more than happy to send you a free copy. So all you have to do is go to askjulier an.com. And you'll see a b tton that says Ask Julie, just g on that page, then just put i that you heard me on Anne's sh w and you'd like a copy of th book and if you would like a copy of the children's books as well. And we'll send you a free copy and hope that you enjoy it.

Anne DeButte: 58:15

Oh, what a beautiful gift. Thanks, Julie. I'll make sure to put that information in the Podcast show notes or whatever it is right.

Julie Ryan: 58:25

The link Yes.

Anne DeButte: 58:27

Julie thats so generous. Thank you so much.

Julie Ryan: 58:30

My pleasure.

Anne DeButte: 58:32

How they can get in touch with you. You have a Everything is there as well as my books are there. You can website?

Julie Ryan: 58:35

Yes, its askjulieryan.com schedule an appointment, the information on calling into my show. I do it every Thursday night at eight Eastern. It's two hours. I have lots of people calling from Canada and all over

Anne DeButte: 58:47

It sounds like it the world. And they ask questions about anything from the buffet. I'm trying to think so it's medical, it's relationship. Questions, career questions. Should I move? Is my dog dying as Can you do a past life? Is my loved one transitioning? Can you tell me what phase they're in? And what do they need? And the person who's dying will always tell us so it's a blast. We have so much fun.

Julie Ryan: 59:19

You can get in anywhere you download podcasts. It's on YouTube. The links are on my site Ask Julie Ryan.

Anne DeButte: 59:28

Okay, so there you have it Julie thank you. I really appreciate it. What a wealth of information and I hope listeners you've gained a lot of insights, but also lessened some of your fear around dying and and knowing that your you will see your loved ones again. I guess we've come to the end. And that's a wrap listeners. As we say if you've enjoyed listening to this podcast and you would like To know when this episode and future episodes will drop, then please click on the Follow button. I believe it's there somewhere, and you'll be notified whenever a new episode gets posted. Next month my guests will be Joanne Lynn and she's going to be discussing inherited family trauma and epigenetics. No wonder grief can be hard work. There is just way too much going on. Until next time, listeners bye bye for now.