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What a wealth of"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3576.99,"endTime":3582.27,"body":"information and I hope listeners"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3576.99,"endTime":3582.27,"body":"you've gained a lot of insights,"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3582.51,"endTime":3587.85,"body":"but also lessened some of your"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3582.51,"endTime":3587.85,"body":"fear around dying and and"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3587.85,"endTime":3591.39,"body":"knowing that your you will see"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3587.85,"endTime":3591.39,"body":"your loved ones again."},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3591.48,"endTime":3595.41,"body":"I guess we've come to the end."},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3591.48,"endTime":3595.41,"body":"And that's a wrap listeners. 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Next month my"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3612.69,"endTime":3617.7,"body":"guests will be Joanne Lynn and"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3617.7,"endTime":3621.75,"body":"she's going to be discussing"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3617.7,"endTime":3621.75,"body":"inherited family trauma and"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3621.78,"endTime":3627.21,"body":"epigenetics. No wonder grief can"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3621.78,"endTime":3627.21,"body":"be hard work. There is just way"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3627.27,"endTime":3632.04,"body":"too much going on. Until next"},{"speaker":"Anne DeButte","startTime":3627.27,"endTime":3632.04,"body":"time, listeners bye bye for now."}]}