3 Cipro Pills Nearly Destroyed Her Health

Three Cipro Pills Changed Her Life: April’s Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Recovery Story

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April was healthy, active, and worked out every day. Then she took only three Cipro pills for a suspected urinary tract infection.

Soon after, her health began to fall apart.

In this powerful podcast episode, April shares her personal experience with Cipro side effects, fluoroquinolone toxicity, and her long road toward fluoroquinolone toxicity recovery.

She developed many serious symptoms, including:

• Fast heart rate and heart palpitations
• High blood pressure
• Severe anxiety
• Trouble sleeping
• Hair loss
• Cold hands and feet
• Neuropathy in her hands and feet
• Achilles tendon pain
• Ringing in her ears
• Internal tremors
• Digestive problems
• Food sensitivities
• Rapid weight loss

April explains how doctors could not find the cause of her symptoms. Some believed she only had anxiety or depression. However, April knew something was wrong with her body.

Her husband later researched Cipro and found stories from other people who had been harmed by fluoroquinolone antibiotics.

What You Will Learn in This Episode

April and Dr. Hugh Wegwerth discuss:

• How three Cipro pills affected her health
• How to heal from being floxed
• Why fluoroquinolone toxicity can be hard to understand
• How antibiotic injuries may affect the nervous system
• Why Cipro toxicity treatment must be personal
• Why recovery is not based on one supplement
• How diet changes supported her healing
• Why testing must lead to a clear treatment plan
• How functional neurology exercises helped her
• Why physical medicine was an important part of her recovery
• How she slowly used a sauna blanket and Chi machine
• How removing silica from supplements may have helped reduce her tremors
• Why each person needs a personal recovery plan
• How faith, family, and community gave her hope

Her Progress Today

April’s tremors are now much smaller and happen less often. Her sleep has improved. Her hair loss has slowed down. She gained her weight back and feels stronger, happier, and more hopeful.

Her story shows that fluoroquinolone antibiotic damage reversal may require many small steps. There may not be one pill or one simple answer.

April worked on several areas of her health, including:

• Nervous system support
• Diet changes
• Movement and exercise
• Physical medicine
• Targeted supplements
• Blood sugar support
• Faith and emotional strength

This is not a story about one miracle supplement. It is a story about listening to the body, finding the right support, and refusing to give up.

Functional Medicine Support for Antibiotic Injury

Many people search for functional medicine for floxed patients because their symptoms are complex. Each person may have different problems that need to be addressed.

Some people may also search for a Levaquin toxicity specialist because Levaquin and Cipro are both part of the fluoroquinolone antibiotic family.

April’s message is simple:

You are not alone. Listen to your body. Keep searching for answers. Take recovery one step at a time.

This podcast is for anyone searching for information about:

• Fluoroquinolone toxicity recovery
• How to heal from being floxed
• Cipro toxicity treatment
• Fluoroquinolone antibiotic damage reversal
• Functional medicine for floxed patients
• Levaquin toxicity specialist
• Cipro nerve damage
• Antibiotic injury recovery
• Cipro side effects
• Fluoroquinolone black box warnings

This podcast shares one person’s personal experience. It is for education only and is not medical advice. Every person is different, and results may vary.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Hey community, this is Dr. Hugh coming at you, and today we have a very, very special guest, a guest that has been damaged by Cypro, the horrible antibiotic in the class of fluoroquinolones. And her name is April. And before we start, I just want to give a big shout out to April because there's um, you know, to get on the phone uh or on video, I should say, uh, April, you're gonna be seen all over the world. People are gonna be watching this at 1 a.m., 2 a.m. 3 a.m. 6 p.m. in the morning, looking for some hope and possibility. And you were able to come on here and do a recording. I'll ask I ask all my clients if they want to do a recording, and some do, and um, most don't because they they just are not comfortable giving all their personal biz up in the world of the internet. But uh April has a strong conviction on trying to help the community, help people that have been damaged by these antibiotics, and we also want to give a couple shout-outs to Talia Smith, who has been kind of like the forefront of the community, and then another person we want to give a shout-out that April mentioned was Chad Gilliam, who has uh given a lot of people hope and possibility in the Facebook group. So, April, can I just start off with the community? What happened, when you got when you got damaged, why did you get damaged? And then we'll kind of go through your journey of your symptoms. And I think people really want to know is what did April all do to try and get recovered as much as possible today? So just kind of uh give us an intro on what happened and why you got damaged initially.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Okay, so what happened was in um 2023, I had had a gum grafting done that led to an abscess, that led to taking amoxicillin. And over that couple like six weeks period, somewhere along the line, I had some bladder bladder pain. So I went into my PCP and he prescribed me CIPRO for um a suspected UTI, a suspected, you know.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

So um that was in December of 2023 when that had happened. He prescribed that to me. And um, I sat on it for a few days. Stupid me did not research it. Um, and I took it. And about the third pill in, I just didn't feel good. I didn't feel right. So I stopped taking it altogether. Well, within like a week and a half or so, um, I was at work and um my heart started racing uncontrollably. And um I thought I was having a heart attack actually, and I never had that feeling, my blood pressure raised, um, thought I was having a heart attack, never had this happen. I'm a runner, I work out every day, I eat healthy. These things just didn't happen to me. Never had high blood pressure, everything was always great. So I went to the hospital, I was ambulanced to the hospital because I was at a office. Yeah, I was ambulanced. Um, and they took me to the hospital. Of course, when you get there, everything's different, right? They they monitor you and you get there, and they're like, Oh, you had some high blood pressure and this and that. And I had no idea really in the beginning what caused this. I initially thought it might have been from like the grafting or something, you know, and I kind of brushed it off as like a fluke thing. Yeah, well, then about I don't know, a couple weeks later, uh, but over time, over that couple weeks before the next incident, my blood pressure would raise, or I would have a terrible anxiety.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

I started all these crazy symptoms, like neurological symptoms you're talking about, April.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

Yeah, yeah. I would have anxiety. I mean, I had rapid a rapid heart um pulse all the time. I I felt anxious. I'd go into my PCP, I'd just be like, hey, listen, I'm feeling really anxious and I don't know why. He's like, Hey, you know, I know you don't like pills, but how about I give you something for anxiety?

SPEAKER_02 3:48

Let's give you a benzo.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

Right. Just I was like, I just said, I don't really think I need a pill. I don't I don't know what's causing it all of a sudden. He's like, Well, just try it. If you calm down, you know, um, and it helps you, we won't keep you on it forever. Well, he gave me this script, I did not fill it. I was like, Nope, there's something going on. I know my body. Well, then not only did I have that, I had those heart palpitations. Yeah, but back into my PCP, I said, Hey, I'm having these heart palpitations and I can't sleep. I was sleeping like maybe two to three hours a night. And um, he's like, Oh, he goes, How about I write you a script for like um a sleeping pill just to help you sleep?

SPEAKER_02 4:28

So they were gonna put you on some kind of antidepressant medication, then a sleep medication.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Yep, that's what he wanted to do. And I said, It's I said, Listen, you know me, you've been my PCP for like 13 years at this point, somewhere in that that area. I don't get I don't get shots, I don't take medications, I don't like any of that. And he knows that. And he's like, Well, if it helps you though, and then we'll we'll just just for a little while. I'm like, I'm like, no. And I said, Can you send me for like an ultrasound to see if something's going on? He would send me for ultrasounds and blood work, nothing would show up, everything was great. I'm like, something's just not right. He never attained it to the fact that it gave me Cypriot, not once, right?

SPEAKER_02 5:09

And how many pills did you take, April? How many? He gave you uh a prescription for how long and how many, how many did you take?

SPEAKER_00 5:17

He gave me a prescription for 10 pills for 10 days, and I believe they were 500 milligrams, I believe. Okay, and they were for um one a day.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

One a day, all right. And you took all 10?

SPEAKER_00 5:29

No, I took three.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

You took three capsules, okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

Three, three, and I didn't feel good, so I just stopped, and I was like, something doesn't feel right. I don't know what's happening. So um I had all these symptoms that just started coming on. So I would end up in the hospital. Um, I have this high blood pressure, I have sleep issues, I'm having everybody'd be like, Oh, and I started to tell them, I said, Well, I did take an antibiotic, CIPRO, and um nobody would ever say they're like, Oh, that was the drug of choice for like 30 years. A heart doctor told me. I was like, that was the last time I went to a hospital. Never went to a hospital again. He brushed me off, he gaslighted me. He I said, I said, look it up. This is after I knew, I said, look it up. I said, it's got like seven black box warnings. I said, he goes, Oh, it's just he goes, he goes, all right, I'll I'll I might look it up. He left the room, went away for a half an hour, came back, he goes, Okay. I looked it up. He goes, it's really just a tendon thing.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

I'm like, he goes, it's been our drug of Joyce for like 30 years for almost anybody that would come in. I'm like, that's probably why people are walking around really messed up and they have no idea why.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Some of it for sure, yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

I mean, immediately after I took um Cypro, I had I have a whole list. I had rapid heart palpitations every day, two to three hours of sleep every night. That was it. Anxiety. I started to feel depressed. I had um, I was losing all my hair every day.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

You have long, beautiful hair. It looks like you have a natural curl to it or wave.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

I do, and I was losing all my hair. I had like the coldest hands and feet I'd ever had. It would never go away. I lost 10 pounds right away out of the gate, and I lost 20 total. I was down to 108 pounds. 188 every and I'm five seven.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Yeah, that's way too thin.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Uh, you could see every bone in my chest. You could see, uh, I mean, I was just a stick figure. People are like, Are you sick? Do you have cancer? Are you are they? They started to think I was like anorexic, all the things. People would just question me all the time. Um, I had malabsorption issues. I could, it didn't matter how much food I ate, I always felt hungry. Um, I remember one time when I felt really vulnerable, and this is probably about six months in. I was standing in the kitchen and I just felt like nothing was gonna get me better. And I did, and I told my husband, I said, I just feel like I'm gonna die. Everything inside of me just feels like it's dying, like I'm just gonna die. I said, I feel so sick, I feel like I'm gonna die. Yeah, I said, I don't even know where to go from here. I have no idea. Yeah, and it was just like one of those really major turning points for me to really figure it out because I was like, I can't let Cypro steal my life. And the only reason why I knew it was Cipro is because my husband asked me one day, he's like, Hey, what was that antibiotic that you had taken? And I told him, and he looked it up and he said, and he found Telia's name um attached to what he was looking up. And he went to her site on Instagram, I believe, and he's like, Hey, this girl took three pills just like you, and she couldn't even walk. And he's like, That he was how many pills did you take? I said, I'm not sure. It was like two or three. And I went home and I kept the bottle, and um, three pills were gone. Three pills, and all my symptoms just started rolling, like one like I would might get one under control, and another symptom would come in. I mean, I had food sensitivities, I had a rash that didn't go away for a year and a half, Achilles pain, um, gut issues, neuropathy in my feet and hands. I had my teeth were loosening up, like they were loosening because I had so much bacteria in my body that bacteria was just staying in my mouth. I had um, let's see, I had hormone imbalances, cold hands and feet. I had so many things. And then nine months later, I started having after most of these things started to subside because they would start to subside, but then something else would show up. Yeah, I had um internal tremors. I started having internal tremors, and I thought, well, that's weird because they started off really small that they weren't super noticeable yet. I was like, Well, that was a weird feeling, and then they just gradually started getting worse, and then I started having ringing in my ears, and I'm just like, what is happening? And this is when I was down 20 pounds, I was very sick, no matter what I did, and I worked out every day still. Still, you worked out every day. Yeah, I was working out every day, I was eating super healthy. I changed and I ate healthy before, but I was real, like I didn't drink any more caffeine right away out of the gate, no more sugar, no more nothing. And I was just eating proteins and what leafy greens, and you name it. I I wasn't doing anything, only water, and then I had chronic UTIs for two years.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

On top of that, I started having chronic UTIs that would not go away for two years. Finally, December of 25, I did a that prosymbiotic um uh what do you call it? Remember that? Um a probiotic? That that vaginal probiotic yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

I yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

That's the only thing that made those um UTIs go away. And I had them for two years.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

So, meantime, what were all the things that you did to try and get yourself better? Like, give give the people watching you, like I know you did a lot of stuff before we met.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Um, I know you went you went to you got some testing, and so just kind of just I worked for I worked for a chiropractor who also does natural things and he helped me get to a certain point, but he didn't do blood testing in his office. So then I started to see a different natural path that could do blood tests and what some things more extensive. Because when I started following um these groups on Facebook for people who are injured by CIPRO, I started seeing other people talk about testings and supplements and things like that. So I started going to a natural path back in Michigan where I lived, and um, they helped me get to a good certain point, but I knew I needed something more. Like everybody helped me get to a certain point until I just needed something more, right? And then I started seeing another doctor out here in Arizona who can get really deep into testings and understood different things, and he helped me get to a certain point. Um, but then I found you through Talia, because you understand being injured by antibiotics now. All these other doc natural paths, um, they it's not that they didn't believe me, they just never really understood it or just didn't deal with anybody that was ever really injured.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Yeah. And um it's a clinical experience. You know, you kind of get into a kind of a niche thing, and then you have a real in-depth knowledge about some kind of particular topic. And this in this case, being damaged by antibiotics.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

No, my doctor that I worked for knew I was. He he actually he believed that I was because I worked there the whole time and it changed after that. So he worked with me, you know what I mean? And we got two good points, like he was really on top of everything. Um, but the thing about it is that until somebody really understands what it means to be injured by an antibiotic, um, nobody can really help you get to the point that you need if nobody's really willing to dig that deep, you know. Like it's not that they weren't willing, you just can't do something that I guess you don't understand, right? Yeah, and um they my doctor that I work for understood those things and he was getting me good, but I had to go doctors where there's blood testing so I could see what was going on in my body and my blood. And I did, I mean, I did thousands of dollars in testings.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

Yeah, we had to do a I I said I remember a text, a uh a picky promise. Don't do any more damn testing. Yeah, it's just like so. I mean, sometimes you go to these these providers, they test and they test and test. So, and you just get overwhelmed. Here, here's what I think. Just just to clarify, here's what I think. If you're watching this and you're like, what testing is do here's how I I test. I think someone needs good solid blood work, 11, 10, 12 hours of blood. Okay, if you want to know what that is, you can go to my website. I think then, uh, depending on how someone responds, you need to you need a check out for mold, heavy metals, and environmental pollutants. That's a urine test. Yeah, the third test is like a GI map test, a poop test. That's the tests you need, right? So some people they just go off and off and get test after test after test after test. But you know, no test has ever gotten one of my clients better. Zero. What gets people better is a clinical application towards a specific problem like you, April. That's what gets someone better, not testing, it's an application very specifically geared towards you know your needs.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Well, on top of that, I can tell you I've never prayed harder than I prayed during these times. On top of that, yeah. Like I've really dug deep in my faith, and I've really looked to God to lead me and guide me, and I've really stuck to my faith the whole time. Um, to top off this whole thing, um, two months after I had been injured by Cypro, my daughter was diagnosed with cancer, and I was so sick, I couldn't even fly out to Arizona to see her. And it took me four months to get to a decent point, you know, to where I could even come out here to Arizona and see her. Now, now I live out here. Yeah, but it was a very daunting dark time in 2024 and through 2025 moving out here, and it's just been the longest journey. But you know what? I have had hope all along because I put my hope in him first, my faith in him first, and I let him guide me to where I need to be. And I remember praying so hard for him to send me somebody that just understood antibiotic injury or just miraculously hear me, heal me right now. And I watched that um that whole message between you and um tell ya, that whole station where she interviewed you. Yeah, and that was like the one thing that I feel like gave me the most hope was seeing that somebody actually tailored themselves to understand this antibiotic injury and is helping people in ways that nobody else really can. And it's just been amazing to know that you know, there's somebody out there that listens, that understands it, and that can help people and give them hope.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

Yeah, that's awesome. Well, thank you. I think I think with that, you know, I've been helping this community, this, this, this community probably for eight years now. Like, that's where it's kind of started. And I'll tell you this people that have a faith-filled background get better. Like, and I I I make it very clear. Like, I try and make it clear, like when I communicate with people, when people come aboard for care, is I'm saying, you know, God created you to be healthy, like God designed you to be healthy, like we need to figure out what's interfering with that God-given potential for you to be well. Like, that's really where the investigation needs to go to. And I think if you can have a spiritual component, and if people are spiritual, then they have more faith in their ability to heal and function. And really, I just look at it like what's hindering the God-given healing ability for April or whoever's watching this right now, what's hindering your God-given healing ability to recover from these antibiotics, whatever your condition is, that's where the investigation needs to go. And you, if you have faith that you have a spiritual power, like you just think about like uh, you know, you cut your finger and your finger heals. Like, that's that's a miracle, right? Like, I mean, it it happens. There's some amazing power in the body that can heal the body. You just have to figure out what's hindering that uh, you know, that ability to to get well. And that's where the kind of the investigation goes on.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

But well, I can I can say that um God will use any tragedy and turn it into a triumph. He will. He'll use what we're going through and he will use it for his goodness. And I can say for sure that I have helped so many people not take Cipro just because I knew what Cipro did to me.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

And because of that reason, I guess I can say it's worth it to know that at least what I've gone through has helped other people not have to go through that. And I know that it's tragic. It really is. It's all of us wish we could go back to the three days prior or the five days prior, the two weeks prior. We all do. And if I can say as long as what I've been through has helped others, I guess then that's the that's the triumph out of the tragedy for me. Yeah, um, because I can tell you it's been no small road to have to travel. It's been a tough road, and I've been through some really hard things, but this has been really hard. Yeah, but I can tell you with my faith and my prayers, and I know that God's not left me at all, that I can say that I will experience full healing at some point. It's never on my timing, it's always on his.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

I have to remember that.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Yeah, that's critical. So maybe just do a quick comparing contrast on your the darkest days versus where you are now, because I think people might want to see the the distinction there, and then we can move move the move the conversation from there.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

My darkest days were in the very first, I say four months probably, where I was experiencing all the symptoms I listed at like one time. And I would feel like I would maybe make a little progress, but go five steps back all the time to the point to where I couldn't sleep at all. I felt like nothing I ate was even doing anything for me. I was crying on the daily, I was still going to work every day, but I was a I was the biggest mess I think I've ever been. I didn't even know how I could function from day to day at all. It was just basically I was like on this autopilot of just purposefully trying to gain my life back as much as possible and keep going. Because I knew if I would have curled up in a ball and sat on my couch or crawled under the covers, my body would have shriveled up. I had to keep exercising, I had to keep taking supplements, I had to keep eating healthy, and I had to keep my mind strong enough to know that I just couldn't, I couldn't give up.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

And um, that was where I was probably in my darkest days was that first four to six months, probably.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Yeah. And now where are you at?

SPEAKER_00 20:24

Oh man, I can say that my tremors are almost nothing compared to where they were. Like I was having tremors every single day when I met you. Yeah. And um, my tremors are down to I may not even have one for a few days, and I might have a small, tiny one, but they're not throughout the whole day. They last for like a few minutes and then they're gone, and they're not very strong at all. Um, the ring in my ears has gotten less. That may or may not go away. We don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

Um, my hair falling out was another major thing that I still continue to do, but it's getting way better. Like I'm not losing hair like I was at all. And I can tell you that I gained all my weight back last year. So I'm healthy where I was. Yeah, I'm back to where it took a year and a half to get there, but I'm there. It's because I just told myself I wasn't gonna quit on myself. I was gonna figure that out. And um, I can say that if you don't quit and you keep looking for the next answer, like, okay, this is what's happening. If this doesn't work, something else might work, and you don't stop looking for that answer. I feel like that's when you'll find it. Um, because I can tell you, like I said, people, certain people from the Cypro community did help. Like, I can't go back and read everything anymore because it's too much in my head at that point because it makes me relive so many things. Yeah, but there are so many people I'm to be thankful for in that community because had I not had a community, I wouldn't have even known where to go from point A to point B at all. So I can tell you that I'm way better off. than where I where I was even six months ago when I found you.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

And um I'm in a much better place. I'm much happier. I sleep better. I'm I'm thriving. Um we still have our little challenges. Yeah. But like you keep reminding me that you know our bodies have to heal and it takes it could take you know a few months or maybe it's everybody's body is different. We're all different. What might be good for me might not be good for the next person.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

That's the whole problem with this kind of like this kind of condition. Is there's everyone's an outlier. It's not like you go and you go oh you have a hypothyroid condition we're gonna give you a uh you know thyroid hormone you'll be better that's not how this works there has to be a process where you work through things to figure things out so what do you think like when we started working together what do you think were some really key essential things that you thought were like move the needle for for you April I can tell you changing out my supplements like um you had changed me out to liposomal because I feel like because my gut was in a bad place maybe I wasn't absorbing all the nutrients from the supplements that I was taking necessarily yeah um so I think that changing over the liposomal supplements was a good call.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Yeah um I feel like um the the neurological testings that you have me do although my body is as we both know super sensitive to um certain changes I can do them in small doses.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Yeah the infrared blanket I can do it take it in small doses yeah and um the that arc pen that you had me um oh the vibration thing yeah yeah I can do that in small doses but now I'm getting to the point where I can handle bigger doses um yes that's that's a critical thing that so when people come to me with like um central nervous system problems with these the these antibiotics like they're in a sympathetic storm the sympathetic drive so you really have to figure out what you can do to calm down the nervous system and it's just not a supplement game like we've done many many things besides just supplements like it's if people are out there and you're watching this and you're like what the hell supplement can I take to fix my problem that's the losing game. That's what I feel I think that's the losing game. You're you're not gonna win in that game it's a it's a uh it's a pro it's um what's the best way I would describe it I have a like there's a there's physical medicine things like April mentioned like we we did some vibration things around her face we had her do some neurological things a sauna blanket a chi machine all these things are physical we we had you check your blood sugars I have a better thing now with the lingo checking blood sugars but this physical medicine portion things that you do at home are more important than the supplement like so when people get on there what supplement can I take you know people will will I'll put some stuff on on um you know Facebook or whatever they're they're like what supplement it's not a supplement it's not even a protocol that's that's where the that's where the difficulty comes in so you did a lot of the the physical medicine things um and then yeah we also kind of to what they're what's happening for them like it's not one size fits all right that's for sure yeah it's not like I do certain things that other people may not do and they might be fine like I have my own ritual of things that I do also that somebody suggested to me on the Cypro site um and it works for me but it may not work for somebody else I know minerals are extremely important to healing because we're mineral deficient and I knew that because my gut wasn't working properly and my teeth were receding all the things and it alerted me I'm like okay what can I do for this right like and I just started finding things and certain people from the the community you know I'll read things because we're all searching for answers.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Yeah and so you can try things but like you said it's it's the supplement game that you don't want to have to play that is frustrating because it's not about a supplement it's about also the therapies what therapies can I do yes you know it's not just what can I take it's what can I do. And I think like you're saying the things that are important is like you changed my diet as far as the the meat and the fruit that changed me for a while. I think that helped I mean I think there's a there's a series of things that helped me throughout these past two and a half years that got me here. It wasn't just like one miracle thing. No it was a series of dozens of things that I had to do depending on what was happening to to get me to this point.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Yep I agree 100% yeah and I think you know I talked about kind of like a tidal wave I think like when you add a bunch of things at once that's like when the tidal wave can start to happen. Like things don't happen on a monotherapy approach one thing like oh I'm gonna try vitamin D, I'm gonna try magnesium, I'm gonna try sauna blanket if like if you're just doing this monotherapy one thing approach that's again I think that's a losing game as well because the body's too complex and in in order to get that God given hearings that healing power working there's many things that you can do to stimulate or heal the body uh like we did for you April and I think another thing that we found is that you had a silica sensitivity and this is um so so you were texting me back and forth and I still remember this. I don't know why the hell I started looking researching the silica thing but you you sent something to me like at 5 30 in the morning right I read this text and then I started going on this silica thing and doing research on silica I'm trying I was trying to think today what why the hell I even researched the silica because I was comparing products and then you looked at it you said oh it's probably the silica because I had silica in all my in all my supplements and I was still having all these issues and you said it's silica and you looked it up and it showed that it can cause the tremors. Yes yes because I think you were taking the the quicksilver products which don't have silica in them and then you were getting better and then you had a flare and then I started doing the research on the silica and then when you when you eliminated silica which basically silica it's just kind of a filler in these supplements and and like 90% of the supplements have silica. And actually um I know a lot of people that have sensitivity to silica now that that are really fragile people that yeah I've a I have a sensitivity to silica um so I think knowing that and eliminating the silica was a really critical uh kind of turning point I think in in the case and I think that hap happened with just like being in conversation with each other knowing the case and having experience with these different products yeah I think you're right I mean because when you told me that it just made sense because you're like you're silica to death because you have so many supplements and you've got silica in all of them so all my all my uh my my tablets my tablet um vitamins you're like we need to change those out because you need to stop taking silica for a while and see if things change and it did change yeah it did change and um so that was just it was just one more thing that was like oh of course I'd have a silica like it's just like ah you know but yeah and that's like all the combination of the the silica the change of the diet the supplements the sauna blanket the different uh functional neurology exercise that we have you do and you were still doing um maybe kind of give give an audience of what what does it look like to get so we did some testing on you and you did some things what what are some exercises that you're doing just so people can understand you know what what a functional neurology check or exercise would be.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

So I do the dot test where there's a dot on a piece of paper and I um and I and I move my head back and forth as I stare at the dot and I put I'm at a point now where I have one foot in front of the other for balance and things like that. And then um I move my head starting off slowly and I start to move it faster just to see where my tolerance levels are. Yeah. And that's how my brain is starting to heal that way. Yeah and that's pretty um go ahead go ahead no I'm sorry go ahead April yeah and so I I've been doing that I can remember in the beginning how bad I did with that test.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

Yeah I had a a super flair when you tested me that's how we knew yeah yeah yeah and just to give some audience the background there is like when people are in this sympathetic drive like April was the whole midbrain which has to do with your vision your vestibular system balance if that's overstimulated which I find that to be uh a common area where these antibiotics will flutter up is the midbrain and that has to do with the eyesight the vestibular system your vagus nerve if that's really inflamed and you turn your head and you and you get these this flare you need to try and exercise that area very slowly to put more stability into that area besides all the other things that we were doing working with you April like it's a combination of things like if someone just goes out there and does this you know that that's not going to help them right that that's just like that's a monotherapy approach you have to look at the whole thing and apply many things and yeah I mean that's pretty awesome especially when you do those exercises and you can see wow I can do it way better now I can stand tandem and I can move my head faster yeah and then you had me doing the um infrared red blanket yeah the sauna blanket yeah yeah I still um I still tolerate it at low low doses but I'm still I'm still tolerating it yes for some reason my body does not like that one as much as it likes other things but it's doesn't matter I just keep hammering it out till I get better.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

Yeah you know until I can move up and up and up to the point to where you know I I'm feeling like there's gonna come a point where I'm not gonna flare and then be like wait a minute I don't have any flares and it's gonna be super amazing.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

And then I do the Chi ma that that Chia machine yeah and um I can tolerate that for longer periods of time. I can't do it on the super fast setting but I do it I just stay consistent and I just do it longer.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

So I do those things and I go to the gym every day.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

I just keep my body moving well for your body yeah yeah yeah we've had a lot of conversations yeah the treadmill yeah we've had lots of conversations over the six months and um you know sometimes you're calling and flair and you're and you're crying and you're frustrated and um yeah you know it's just a matter of just like being calm working working through the things and uh yeah that that's that we did that together and you did an awesome job.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

I was no easy case and I can tell you before Cypro ever hit me I could just roll with anything I nothing really bothered me. I mean I was a single parent I was a young mom I lived on my own I did all the things I mean things didn't really bother me I just knew how to manage you know what I mean yeah and then Cypro hit me hard like I experienced things about myself that I never even knew that I would experience about who I was I'm like this is not even me I I never felt like myself in my own shell because I just felt like I was a completely different person living this completely different life and I didn't know how to fix it. And I was used to being able to fix things and I couldn't fix this not on my own. So I just knees to the ground praying for help and God just sent angels along the way yeah it's awesome and that's what I truly believe.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Yeah that's great that's awesome. Yeah and it's been it's been a journey but if this journey saves other people's lives that's what I care about the most because I don't want it to go to waste yeah well this video is gonna make an impact for sure there's gonna be people watching this that are gonna have the same realities and and give them hope and there there's gonna be people watching this video having a panic attack an anxiety attack whatever it is going on searching for answers and you're gonna pop up April and they're gonna say man this this is there's actually hope for me I don't have to uh you know live like this especially coming from I mean you were in a rough spot I mean your daughter had cancer you could you couldn't function I mean I don't know I can't even imagine a darker spot than that right I mean with your daughter then we moved all the way across the country we sold everything put our jobs moved all the way across country from Michigan and we started a whole new life here in the middle of all that like last year and um I I became a full-time homeschool grandma and um taking care of two little ones five days a week while my daughter went to her treatments and that was I mean I had to be strong and awake and capable and there were some days it was it was a struggle because I was going through so much myself but I wanted to stay strong for my daughter and my grandkids and I just prayed every day that to give me the strength to get through another day. That's yeah I learned to live just like the Bible says one day at a time he only gives us today he doesn't promise us tomorrow and yesterday's gone all I have is today and that's how I started living yeah that's awesome okay and you had no easy case because I was not an easy case no you weren't an easy case it took a lot of work it took a lot of work for sure and I had to be very yeah it took a lot of work and and um no I had to be very you know sometimes I had to talk to myself just be calm be calm breathe be calm she wants I mean several times I I don't know if you ever sensed that my voice or not I try not to but I'm I I'm generally a very calm person but there was there was definitely sometimes I had to like really exercise my calmness and and um but that's you gave me some tough love it was okay I did I did have to give you some tough love at some at some times but you you took it in and you um did I think you ran with it appropriately it was all like for bettering your case I mean that's what it was for. I mean I yeah so um but yeah you're a tough case not every cases are easy I mean that's that's just how it goes and that's some of the yeah I don't know you want to say pleasures but challenges of of things that stimulate you you you gotta always kind of kind of think harder and you got to come up with better thoughts and better I don't want to say protocols but better better methods to help people because these the cases that are on my plate are not easy cases. These are really really tough cases right and I'll be the first one not everyone that comes to me you know gets better. Like it's just the reality this is this is a tough situation.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

So um I think every day part of it's because I think part of it is because there's no like um protocol for antibiotic injuries because nobody uh in the in the world of medicine wants to believe those things happen. So I feel like it's different than like other diseases or disorders or things like that because nobody recognizes it. So it's like we're all just in this um hunger game type situation where we're all trying to figure it out and make it known that it's a real thing. And until doctors in the medical world and things like that start to actually recognize it as something we're we're gonna be playing this game for a long time. Yeah and we're all the rest of us are trying to do is save the next person from taking a fluoroquinolone right so that they're not injured and have to go through the same things because they're just gonna be gaslighted as fibromyalgia or anxiety or depression just like the rest of us. Yeah exactly that's exactly what happens that's exactly what happens here's a pill take another pill and I was gonna be on three to five pills by the time my doctor was done with me. Yeah and I didn't take no pills and I still don't take I take no medications and I wasn't about to start taking medications.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

Yeah it's good for you that's great.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

This has been awesome so in in the um the last closing couple minutes here what's your what what do you want to put out in the in the physical universe there to the people what's your last words of uh hope for the community here April when you feel like you're alone in the situation you're you're not alone here like we there's a community of people that see you and people that will hear you and will listen to you that if you know that fighting for your life is worth it you'll just keep keep searching for the answer and keep looking to the next step to try to get better. Listen to your body don't let somebody else tell you how you should feel or how your body could heal or this or that because you know your body better than anybody else knows your body even when everybody looks at you like you're crazy because you're not it's like I'm so in tune with my body I know the slightest thing when it's off because I'm that in tune. It's almost annoying. So when somebody tries to brush you off as it's not this or it's not that but you know it is you listen to your body you do what you know is right for you in your body and it doesn't have to be the same way somebody else does something it this is this is your way of doing things your journey it's it's it's not the fun journey but it's a journey nonetheless to get to your life back the way that you need to get it back. And if you have faith and you pray and you give your life to the Lord he hears you and he will lead you you just have to be willing to listen and that's what I really truly believe that the Lord has led me every step of the way he doesn't say he'll be there for the he says he will be there for the next step. He's a lamp to our feet because he shows you the next step with that lamp not the whole journey but the next step. And that's where I see me being taken the next step.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

Yeah yeah that's awesome that was a great note to end it and with that being said if you're out there suffering um there's hope for you and remember is where there's help there's hope. Where there is help there is hope. Take care. Bye bye