Organic Sexuality

Receiving Your First Prostate Massage and Dearmouring with Stine and Asim of The Prostatic Portal

Rahi Season 3 Episode 7

Prostate massage and dearmouring is perhaps the least understood process of the body with the greatest potential for healing, empowerment, pleasure and health.  Stine & Asim are perhaps the world’s foremost experts in facilitating, teaching and guiding this sacred experience and initiation of releasing past wounds, expanding erotic bliss, and merging the inner feminine and inner masculine into sexual wholeness.  

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Organic Sexuality, where we explore the restoration of pleasure, the reclamation of sexual sovereignty and the realization of our embodied sexual nature. An invitation to honor the pleasures of your body by embodying the pleasures of your nature. By embodying the pleasures of your nature, I'm your host, rahi Chan. I'm a certified somatic sex educator, sexological body worker and creator of Somatic Sexual Wholeness. Our first interview with Steena Ennisine three years ago in Season 1 generated the most downloads of any Organic Sexuality Podcast episode and focused on the incredible benefits of prostate massage and what guided them to create the pioneering prosthetic portal. Consider this episode a part two, as Astina and Asim return to guide us through the process of a first-time prostate massage, both for the receiver and for the giver, valuable considerations of what to expect and how the sacred process unfolds. Their pioneering work and training now includes an online course for prostate owners and for their partners to explore in the privacy of their own home and in their own time.

Speaker 1:

I am really, really excited to invite back to the podcast Steena and Asim. Invite back to the podcast Steena and Asim. It's pretty rare to have guests come back to the podcast, but one. It's been three years since our first interview and the first interview that we did on the Prosthetic Portal. Their pioneering work on prostate health, massage and pleasure was the most downloaded episode in the whole podcast series. I think there's close to 3,000 downloads. So clearly there is a curiosity and an interest in prostate health, prostate pleasure and prostate massage. So I wanted to have them back on so we could kind of do a part two and build on it. Stina Asim, thank you for joining the podcast again.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm so excited that we can go deeper, together with you on this topic.

Speaker 1:

Wonderful. I love going deeper. Okay, and we, yeah, given this is prostate massage, we must go deeper. We must go as deep as we can. Let me yes, let me introduce Stina and Asim to our audience. So Stina is a holistic body therapist, a midwife, an integral sexologist specializing in sexual health for all genders, working with de-armoring and healing sexual trauma, birth trauma, prostate health. She facilitates workshops and trainings all around Europe and is based in Denmark and Holland.

Speaker 1:

Aseem, sacred Fire, is a tantric body worker, shamanic practitioner and energetic healer, educated in koala, tantra, core shamanism, lumi lumi massage, energetic healing and tarot. Aseem facilitates sessions, workshops and ceremonies in a blend of tantra, yoga and shamanism, also in Copenhagen, and is originally from the Netherlands. So for listeners who have not heard the first podcast, please do so Again. It was the most popular podcast and we covered a lot of wonderful information, specifically how the prosthetic portal draws on the depths of wisdom from a wide variety of cultural traditions involving somatic psychology, physiology, sexuality and tantra. It's a really holistic and complete exploration of health, pleasure and the spiritual benefits of this incredible gateway which is the prostate in the body. We talked about how the tissue of the womb and uterus is the same tissue that makes up the male prostate and, as such, holds unintegrated issues and emotions relating to unbirthed dreams, purpose and intentions for prostate owners.

Speaker 1:

We talked about the wide range of health benefits, including increasing blood flow, draining toxins, softening muscles and ligaments, relieving lower back pain, everything from alleviating enlarged prostates, which cause frequent urination, to how to separate orgasm from ejaculation, leading to multi-orgasmic states of being. So you know it's no surprise that it was such a popular podcast. I thought today, steena and Asim, we could focus on really helping the listeners understand what the process is, as you guys, I mean, I consider the listeners understand what the process is, as you guys, I mean, I consider the two of you the foremost experts in the world regarding prostate health and massage, and I think it would be helpful for listeners to understand, like, what it's like to go through a prostate, to go through the process of prostate massage, of prostate massage, to go through the process of prostate massage. So how do you guys prepare clients or students mentally, emotionally and physically to prepare for a prostate massage, and what are the most important steps as you guide them through this deep and sacred and profound experience?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think, first and foremost, like really we like to call it the fear of the fart talk, like when we have this, the workshops, and also with clients, really kind of really making it quite transparent and open exactly what is going to happen on a very practical level, because there are so many unspoken fears and anxiety about going to this place, both for for the giver but very much for the receiver, like there's so many taboos about having that area of your body touched, especially the anus, homo big fear, like there can be so many things that can be kind of in the back side of the mind but, it's so so vulnerable to share in a group or even being on one-on-one with me.

Speaker 2:

So what? I think the feedback we get in a lot of workshops is like wow, you make it so sound, so natural and so like safe, like I really feared all these things and it was just nothing like it to go there with you yeah, so, especially all the shame this can be around it.

Speaker 4:

So we try to bypass that by being very practical and also, and okay, you know, and if it smells, it smells, but it won't smell. So uh, and, and yeah, so to make it uh, to mention it, and um, and it's, it's take, takes away the fears and the, the, the shames that are hidden in, uh, inside yeah, try to make some jokes and like make it a little bit funny once in a while as well, and right, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's so wise because I'm sure people who've never had a finger in their anus or prostate massage I mean it's so great to just get it all out in the open. You're actually pulling out what they're thinking or what they're afraid of in the unconscious, so that the fears are out, so it doesn't have to be a fear anymore. So things like taboo around the anus, fears about being dirty or smelly, fears about, like you said, homophobic fears all of that that's great. What have you found to be important as far as, like down-regulating the client's nervous system to actually be receptive to that part of the body, because it's such a sensitive, vulnerable part of the body?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we kind of developed a specific breath work for that. Ah, that is like, really like, like stepping on of knowledge of the tantric world and and also the vagal theories of like how can we like regulate our nervous system? Because that part of the body is really the one part that really tenses up a lot when we're in the sympathetic and a lot of these muscle groups that we are indirectly or directly touching. Is is not really like letting go and surrendering in that mode.

Speaker 2:

So, however, we can support people to more in the path of mesetic state of the nervous system is is something we designed, a specific breath work that we call the anal flower breath, and, yeah, so that can be used for so many other things than prostate massage, but we just really customize it specifically for prostate massage.

Speaker 1:

That's terrific. It's so interesting because when the body feels fear or a threat of security, it is the anus that clenches, and here you are entering that very area that's used to clenching. So it sounds like tailoring this breath work is really a key to preparing the body for this entry.

Speaker 2:

And then we talk a lot about, like the goal orientated experience like obviously a lot of people receiving prostate massages are male and, uh, that, like the goal orientated approach to things, is quite dominant once in a while. So we really speak a lot into you have to let go of a goal to experience this and having that part of your body letting go and going into surrender.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's part of relaxing the whole nervous system. I mean, if someone's fixated on a goal, they're going be, um, not particularly present to all of the sensations and what's actually happening in their body in the moment.

Speaker 2:

Um, and that's also what we see when we do the workshops and I also work with client if there's any hint of like performance in it it doesn't really work very well, because then there's a goal again.

Speaker 1:

So it's really inviting like a real complete surrender to receiving, which is so unlike a lot of, I guess, masculine kind of ways of moving in the world. It's really teaching men to really get in touch with their inner feminine, if you will, and be in a receptive mode.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah. Because when and to make it specific to when men have having sex, you know they are in contraction. So when men are there thrusting their lingam, and so they have this contraction, even though they're conscious of not having a goal, still you keep having control. And what is very special about prostate massage is that you surrender that control to somebody else and then you can come. Only then you can come to receive pleasure from the prostate.

Speaker 1:

Otherwise, you keep being too contracted from the prostate, otherwise you keep being too contracted.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's really fascinating because the male body is so used to being the doer or the penetrator or the thruster that it's almost like unconscious, like the body's memory is almost like so used to doing that really being entered for, like receiving, being receptive is, you know, can be a whole new experience for the body and for the body's psyche.

Speaker 1:

You know, I mean I mentioned this in the first interview. I just I became so much more sensitive, I think a better lover, but sensitive and empathic to how vulnerable it is to receive after starting, you know, after my first prostate massage. So I'd love to, I'd love to take our, our audience, our listeners, like kind of through a process, process of prostate massage, of prostate massage, so you know, the breath work that's tailored to relax the body, to down, regulate the nervous system, sounds really, really beautiful. And then, when you first make contact with the external sphincter or the mouth of the anus, what is? How do you guide couples or how do you facilitate that process? Because that could be for a lot of bodies the first time they're receiving a finger in the area.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think when we guide the massage we kind of start even before the anus. We guide people into different techniques of releasing tension in the pelvic, into different techniques of releasing tension in the pelvic, because we kind of believe that it's not only like working with the prostate is not only working directly on the prostate, it's very much working on all the structures that are holding the prostate.

Speaker 2:

That has a very deep impact on the prostate. So we just like really start with going slowly towards the area and we guide them into this breath and we guide them into slowness and we guide them into maybe in this experience, you will only work on the anus, you might not even get to the prostate. Like, constantly trying to take the goal out of the experience and be present with what is and that's also we kind of made a quote of ourselves in the online prosthetic portal program is that the prosthetic portal is not going to give you what you want. It's going to give you what you need. So meeting it with that anticipation instead of wanting to go somewhere specific or have a specific experience.

Speaker 2:

And then you know people can either wear gloves or do it with without fingers of course, wearing a lot of oil. There's no lubricant in the area. That also gives people sense of safety. With the like, if you have a lot of oil in your finger and no poo is going to stick to the finger, like those kind of informations, and then it's really slowing down, we guide them into some very basic, simple jammering techniques, because there can be a lot of tension, a lot of pain, discomfort, armor on the anus itself, and so it's really a big part of a prostate massage is actually the anus. So we're not only offering prostate massage, it's actually also like an anal massage in that sense, because it's so linked.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. So what I'm hearing is the prosthetic portal, and prostate massage is really inviting an exploration of the whole pelvis and the anal canal Right. It's like the whole package and also the root of the lingam.

Speaker 1:

Like the root of the lingam is, meeting, the prostate in that area is also really an area that a lot of men can benefit from having explored connecting to it, massage relief, tension in that area, because it also affects prostate, sexual performance, so many things yeah, that's so um important to convey to listeners that you know engaging with the prostate is it can be a really multi stepped experience where you're really moving so slowly from the outside in and releasing any tension from the outside in, from the external sphincter, you know, layer by layer.

Speaker 1:

So it's really kind of like you know it's inviting a deep intimacy with the pelvis itself but also kind of I don't know, I want to say rebirthing the pelvis into a new pelvis before getting to the prostate. Yeah, I'm curious, like I'm sure, with so many different prostate owners and bodies, the process and the experience is so different for everyone. You know everyone has different levels of tension and trauma and issues that are held in the area. I'm wondering, in the workshops that you guys facilitate and I attended one in Amsterdam with you guys and it was so beautifully held and facilitated what are some of the common experiences that first-time prostate massage receivers have that surprised them about that part of their body, about their anal sphincters or the anal canal? What are some common discoveries that your clients or students make as they're exploring their anal canal and the issues held there?

Speaker 4:

yeah. So what the when it's the first time that they receive a anal massage or a prostate massage, then then they mostly say, oh, it's, it's actually quite normal and it's, it's, it's very natural. So it is again, all the thoughts that they created around it are taken away and that is, oh, it's very natural to have and it's natural to have pleasure from that. So that is very common, that they say that have pleasure from that, and so that is very common, that they, that they say that. And then, and then the second thing is that, um, yeah, if they, if they read, uh, if they have some experience then with our approach, then they can. Um, that they say for, oh, it's so much relaxing, I'm very used of having it more, that it's actively engaged and that now this is more in a relaxed state and now I'm feeling more instead of holding on.

Speaker 2:

You can also have people that say I don't feel a thing. That's also normal, and then some frustration can come up from that. And then there are also guys saying wow. I connected to the whole lineage of men in my family and all of a sudden I see how things can heal like really profound Wow or orgasmic experiencing. There was one guy in a festival. We met him like four or five hours after the workshop and he was like I'm still shaking.

Speaker 2:

I'm still shaking like this so it can go in so many directions, so many directions, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I'm hearing Asim share that a lot of people respond in a way where they realize how normal and how relaxing the experience can be.

Speaker 1:

Because I think, I think you know like a lot of men have the experience of going to the doctor and getting their prostates, you know, like a just kind of a looped finger getting stuck in there.

Speaker 1:

But the way that you guide, uh, your students and clients with the breath work and going layer by layer and slowing down and being really receptive and feeling everything, it sounds like there can be a lot more relaxation and normalizing of the experience and the range of responses can go from numbness to extreme pleasure and kind of ecstatic state. So it can really be anything but how amazing that you know the body can be explored in such a safe and gentle way to discover what is actually there to be felt and to be released. I'm curious I know when you created the prosthetic portal online course, there was a lot of thought that went into how to support people when they're teaching people, when you know the internal anal canal can hold different, you know various traumas, whether it's sexual violation or fears of security, like how do you teach people to hold space for that kind of material to show up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that's.

Speaker 2:

We had some hesitations making the online program because we could not be present if all of a sudden people go into a full trauma release in a session like that and then is the giver of the prostate massage capable of holding that space?

Speaker 2:

But it is something that we're addressing in the online course and we're talking about the different kind of traumas that can make the origin of them, how they can show up and how you can handle them. But we also kind of put in some some like safety pieces into to the online program where we kind of say, if you have this and this and this, maybe it's not good to do it. Like, if this comes up, what can you do then? If that doesn't work, then do that comes up, what can you do then. If that doesn't work, then do that. And in the end of that that we also kind of keep like an email line open. If people really feel lost and and need support, then we will just so love them to reach out for us and then we can guide them and maybe people need to go eventually to some kind of practitioner that can actually work with them very specifically, unless they need that kind of support, maybe if something really comes up that they cannot regulate or hold space for themselves, Wow.

Speaker 1:

So you've really like thought it through in sharing the possible responses traumatic responses that can happen, and what to do in that case, and it sounds like there's like an email correspondence line that's open so you guys are can make yourselves available, um, in case that happens as well. Um, I'm I'm really curious about the surprising pleasure that students or clients discover that they didn't know was possible, like what you mentioned at the festival, like the guy being in an ecstatic state for hours after. I'm guessing a lot of students and clients are very I mean, there's a deep curiosity about what pleasure exists around their prostate. I guess I'm wondering, like, for students and clients who are very curious about their pleasure potential, do you guide them in a different way? Are there tips that you share about how to engage with the prostate or the anal canal that supports more of a pleasure exploration for them?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I think the most important thing is that you, you have to be able to move the energy inside into the body, and so and we work a lot with that, with a different breath work tend to got me, sarah, to to so when so, when we generate energy, we pull the energy into the body. And well, when you have a penile orgasm, you know it's very intense and it's like going up the mountain and then when you drop off the peak, peak, then you're having the orgasm and and and you're shooting out your energy, yes, and but because the prostate is located inside the body. So then the, the energy is released in the body, and when you then are able to move that energy up instead of out, and then you can expand the energy in your body and but also expand the pleasure inside your body, and then you have a very different experience of of having an orgasm or having pleasure.

Speaker 2:

um, in, yeah, because it's more inside and it's not uncommon that some men experience when you touch their prostate they feel like a tinkling or like in the tip of the penis, so that they are kind of connected through different nerve endings and wiring. So you can also use like, like creating pleasure, where it's quite well known and why you quite feel safe, feeling pleasure, usually touching the tip of the lingam, making some kind of massage on the lingam while massaging the prostate.

Speaker 2:

So kind of you can connect the two dots. Neuroplasticity, like the brain, is discovering these new pathways of pleasure from being touched in an area you haven't been touched before.

Speaker 4:

So that's also a way to guide this Because when the prostate has never been touched, touched then the body doesn't know what to do with the signals and it's it's uh. So then it's very good to to have some pleasure, touch on the lingam or somewhere else. That you have that, that the body is, is taught, that it's pleasure, that it can be pleasure.

Speaker 2:

And most men. They need that to awaken the pleasure potential. Some men can have it spontaneously. Never had experience.

Speaker 1:

that happens too, but quite often they need a bit of support in that way to go in this new path. So, yeah, what I'm hearing is, because the prostate for most people have never been touched manually or never been touched at all, there's an incredible opportunity to wire pleasure from the lingam with the prostate as it's being touched for the first time. Yes, that's fantastic because we are so Pavlovian, you know, and how we get wired, that that is that sounds like fun. It's fun and it's just such a cool way to engage with this sacred portal in the body For me.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I mean, asim, what you shared about the internal energy because of where the prostate is positioned inside of the body, that that makes so much sense. Um, I, you know, I feel like, for I feel like my exploration of separating ejaculation from orgasm really came from from prostate massage, self-prostate massage, and, um, I didn't have to necessarily consciously like do a microcosmic orbit just because the prostate is so internal, the energy was, was being released inside without me really needing to do anything. That's awesome, yeah, yeah. So I'm curious because I know you guys. I'm curious because I know you guys. Well, let's talk about integration, because you know it's such a vulnerable, you know, deep, deep part of the human psyche and the prostate owner's body. How do you guide your students or practitioners to facilitate, like? What are the tips you share in regards to integrating from a prostate massage?

Speaker 2:

like what are the tips you share in regards to integrating from a prostate massage? Yeah, so we have this kind of also like piece or chapter that is called what to expect after a prostate massage. So we kind of try to tell people what they can expect the following days after receive the prostate massage or even giving it. So it's specific for the one giving, like how to cleanse yourself. You really have to have your finger inside this, like sometimes this can be like this is like a hot spot of so much emotion, not like taking that into your system.

Speaker 2:

So that's one part of it and then the other part is for the men that can have so many, like the peeing sensations. The peeing flow can change, the poo can change, the emotional letting go of bullshit can change and it can come days after. It can really like have this afterglow effect for days. So we try to be very specific. What can happen and then notice it, notice it and then see okay, what does that remind me of? What can I learn from this experience? Have somebody to share about afterwards, either the one giving or somebody else like to, really, because it comes in layers and it can come in with delayed messages no it's um I always say from you know, your shit is stirred.

Speaker 4:

All your shit is stirred, so then anything can happen that can come up. You know, it's all in the darkness, but now it's stirred and so it can come to the surface.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, something I really appreciated about our first interview, asim. I remember you know you really were commenting on how it is the darkest kind of you know. It's like the most innermost dark place of the body where there is so much shadow and so we are stirring, you know, kind of what's in the shadow to come into consciousness and to be revealed and released, letting people know, in the prosthetic portal, all of the possible things that can come up and how to take care of themselves during, during the integration which is so so key.

Speaker 2:

And then we also offer the Zoom calls, like if you're part of the online thing, that that you can kind of come with Q and A or come with you know, get advice or share your experience. So so also kind of wanting to offer, um, the support that way.

Speaker 1:

So people have uh like opportunity to create an email thread or hop onto a zoom call to support you know any, any questions or integration process, or I'm curious about whether there are possibilities there are with their prostate experience. You know something you mentioned, steena, about the giver not taking on the energy of the prostate owner. That's a really, really important preparation thing for the giver. I'm wondering you know we've been talking about the prostate owner and the receivers experience what have you noticed in first time givers and their experience of, you know, entering the body of their beloved or, uh, you know, in such a deep and sacred way?

Speaker 2:

you know in such a deep and sacred way. Yeah, so I think one thing that is really often like a topic is already like the polarity if, especially if it is their private, romantically partner or lover that if the roles always have been reversed, the guy being the penetrating or the one being more the doer that now they, they change those roles and that's not all women that is comfortable with that, and so that could look like when the woman start to give the prostate massage that the man is still very much directing no, no touch me here, no, not there.

Speaker 2:

Go a little bit deeper and they just follow along, and then like there's no surrender happening and then that dynamic is just showing up. So that could be one thing that we see. And then it can be about wearing gloves, not gloves. Mostly, if it's your private partner a lot, prefer not to wear gloves because it's so difficult the first time to feel stuff in there and people get confused when they're wearing a glove.

Speaker 2:

So that's another thing. Then we can also see that the woman is so eager to give her man a prostate orgasm that then it becomes goal-orientated through the giver. Yes.

Speaker 2:

And then we can see the response can be in the man no, I'm not going to give you my prostate orgasm for your sake. That kind of thing can happen. So that is really interesting. And then the the like very practical experience, like, oh my god, my finger is burning inside, like it's so hot or it's so stinging, or it's so tight and and everything is just conducted through that that area you're touching and it becomes really, really intense and it's like people cramping up their shoulders and stop breathing and like it becomes so tense yeah wow, the tenseness of the anus just travels up that arm and yeah yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 1:

It's amazing how um the energy can transfer when one is not conscious and aware of all of all of what can happen. But, you know, it's so interesting the way you describe the female wanting to, you know, elicit an orgasm from the male prostate. It's. It's such a role reversal, isn't it? It's like, yeah, it's so common for that, for that to be the man wanting to give a woman an orgasm and I don't know, in some ways it's probably a good teacher for the man to realize what that feels like. So I'm very curious about I know it was a process to create the online course through the prosthetic portal, and so much goes into creating a course, like deciding what information to keep in and what information to pull out. What were some of the main objectives in how you decided to include the information that you did in the online course, because I know it was a lot. It sounds like it was a lot of consideration of how to make it as most trauma-informed as possible as most trauma-informed as possible.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was mostly about how we can be guided to give a safe prostate orgasm. Yes, especially because if you go to the online course, that is an introductionary course and so it's very much about what to do and about the safety to and yeah, less about very specific details, because then it becomes it would get lost in it.

Speaker 2:

yes, the feedback we get from our workshops is so precise. It's so detailed the feedback we got from people who've done the online course. It's like all of a sudden. I could do a breast massage. Usually you can just stick a finger up the ass and look around for it. Here we really try to put it into small little blocks, step by step, All the things you need to explore, experience, get confident in before going for the full massage of your prostate. So really dissecting it into small bits.

Speaker 4:

And the first very large part of the course is just that we share about it and then in in pieces and so before we go into it, and even even the massage itself, we, we, uh, we have like a run through of all the steps, um, before the actually massage is done.

Speaker 1:

So you've really broken down the process into digestible, easily to understand steps before really inviting the experience so people can understand intellectually, they can prepare their bodies, their emotions, they can understand what can happen. Yeah, it sounds amazing.

Speaker 2:

And okay. So how do people find the course? Where do they go?

Speaker 1:

they go to the prosthetic portalcom okay, the prosthetic portalcom and I know, um, there's the same sacred fire, uh website and website and uh, I'm a Soma. Are there links to the person?

Speaker 2:

We also made like, whenever we make stuff together, we call us sacred Soma. Um, so there's a website there where you can, and that's linked out. Yeah. So there are four websites you can go to.

Speaker 1:

Wow. Okay, but the main one is the prosthetic portalcom.

Speaker 2:

For the online and everything related to the prostate.

Speaker 1:

Yes, awesome, awesome. Um, guys, I'm so excited that you've created this service. I mean it's, it's amazing. I mean it really blows my mind, like it blew my mind the first time I experienced my own prostate, and I just think you know, if you have a body, you have to really understand how to optimize your health, release toxins, heal traumas, increase pleasure. I mean it just advances everything in regards to your understanding of lovemaking and and your body, and here you've created this really, really digestible. I mean you've curated all of the, the wisdom that that that you've been researching and facilitating for years into this online portal. I just think it's a tremendous service.

Speaker 2:

And I just think like we really like to use the tree as a symbol. Like whatever happens in the root will show up in the rest of the tree. So whatever work you do on that area, it's so beneficial for it just, you know, creates rebels in the world to the rest of the being.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I also just want to use this opportunity to like really thank for you. Like you, you've been a big support and a guidance for us in this, so I just want to really share that we'll be so grateful for for for your support and your encouragement through this, this process.

Speaker 1:

You've been a big part of it oh well, I've really enjoyed it and I've it's been exciting to watch it evolve. I cannot wait for people to discover it and find it. So it's the prostheticportalcom and you can get all the information and details there, and you guys have a special going on until the end of November.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's like an opening premiere kind of big discount. Basically you save off the Watt taxes 25% so in November. So it's like an opening premiere kind of big discount and basically save up the what taxes 25% so in November. And then we have plans to already two Zoom calls for everybody signing up in that month, like one in December, one in January. Awesome.

Speaker 2:

And we also record the Zoom calls if people can't make them, of course. Yeah, so we just really want to interact with people. That jumps on this, this journey, because we learned so much from the questions as well, and yeah, Beautiful, Beautiful Guys.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for returning and sharing your wisdom and offering this into the world. I'm so excited for everyone to hop on and check it out.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much. Thank you so?

Speaker 1:

much, jorge, thank you, thank you. How is this episode landing for you and your body right now? If you're a prostate owner, are there inquiries you have about what material may be held in and around your prostate waiting to be released and metabolized, or what potential in the realms of pleasure, health and embodiment await you? If you're a lover of a prostate owner? Is touching into this most sacred and vulnerable part of their body and psyche an experience you might want to hold space for? You might want to hold space for. Links to theprostheticportalcom and Steena and Asim's websites are in the show notes. Until next time, take good care.