Awakening, Healing, and the Collective Evolution of Humanity - Blaise Kennedy

Blaise Kennedy reflects on how a personal crisis in his early twenties became the catalyst for a lifelong journey of awareness, healing, and spiritual development. He explains that true intelligence arises from presence and the ability to pay attention to one’s inner life, rather than from intellectual knowledge alone. Through years of exploration, Blaise developed an integrative approach that combines awakening, emotional healing, and conscious manifestation, emphasizing that these aspects of human development must evolve together. He also highlights the importance of collective growth, suggesting that awakening is not just an individual process but a shared evolution of consciousness that unfolds through relationships, community, and deeper self-understanding.

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SPEAKER_00 0:10

Hello everyone, welcome back to a new episode of the Spiritual Inspired Show. I am your guest, Claudio Morgan. For previous episodes, please visit oravers.network, spiritualinspired.ca, and our YouTube channel. My uh guest uh today is a fellow Canadian Blaise Kennedy. Blaise, thank you for joining me today.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

Yeah, happy to meet with you.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Uh, look forward to our discussion. You have an interesting um journey, and um this journey towards the work you began after a difficult period in your life happened, you know, due to a kind of a tragic uh uh event in your life. So, looking back, how do you interpret that moment of rehabilitation program? Was it a crisis, a catalyst, or a form of awakening?

SPEAKER_02 1:04

I think when I went to a treatment center when I was 24, this is what you're speaking about. And the way I would describe it is that I was actually not mature enough to kind of take the reins or sit in the the cockpit of my life. I was very much a passenger. And what happens developmentally for children when they get to be about 24 years old is their, as I've been told, uh, is their prefrontal cortex comes online. They begin to have metacognition. And so for me, it was really a convergence of two things is my childhood came to an end. And uh I began to I began to be able to be present and really pay attention to life. Uh and unfortunately for me, I had really struggled with what had accumulated through my childhood. Uh, and I was very, very disempowered at that point. So it was sort of like um I I was just waiting until I had enough capacity to deal with my life. Up until I was 24, I didn't have the capacity to deal with my life. And I really struggled, and then I gained the capacity in the form of a crisis. Uh, and really since then, that was kind of the beginning of my ability to actually uh put effort in, to try to really um be present in my life. And yeah, and then I get to choose what I wanted to do with my life rather than be a passenger.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Yes, and uh you mentioned that uh you started to be aware of your life, and I want to give a mundane example of what that awareness could be in our day-to-day life. We recently purchased a um terahertz machine that's good for your you know, blood work, cellular uh um development and the detox, and we plug it in uh in the wall, you know, power it up, we use it uh in our front room, you know. And um I realized that I was listening or hearing a beeping from the garage. I didn't pay much attention, and we kept using the machine for two days, and then one day I wasn't able to open up the garage door. I said, Oh, the fuse blew up. I went downstairs, I pulled the fuse back, and then next day I used the machine again and I heard the beep again. So then I started putting one and one together that the power in that room is connected to the power in the garage, and the fuse will blow up every single time. But I had to pay attention and make the connection of these two events in order to realize okay, I have to plug this machine somewhere else and then be attentive and see if something else will blow up, correct? Right.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Otherwise, it just keeps happening and you don't know why. Exactly. More broadly for me, having experiences sort of not about my garage, but about me and my life more personally, I realized that paying attention could actually be an activity, not just something that I stumbled into from time to time, that I could choose to live my life by being present. And, you know, my whole life I'd thought that I was really intelligent. And I was really confused why my intelligence didn't manifest as a good life. I I it it was confounding to me. You know, everyone said I was intelligent, I said I was intelligent, and yet my life was horrible. And it was no product of this intelligence, and it just kind of dawned on me. My intelligence actually comes from my ability to pay attention and be present. It's a product of presence. Um, and then I thought, well, no wonder I haven't been successful at anything. Like I've not really cultivated this at all. In fact, I've done the opposite most of the time in my childhood. I was really trying not to be present because there were so many difficult things that I didn't know how to be with. So I was actively moving away from self-knowledge. Uh, and then it's sort of all made sense. I just do the opposite of that. I just gain self-knowledge, I just pay attention to what's happening for me, be empowered, and then I just watched over and over again and improved my life.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Yes, and another example of you know, um, being smart versus wisdom is the um farmers in the old age or people living in the village, they didn't know how to write and uh read, but they were watching nature and they knew exactly when to plant their uh harvest and uh you know the seeds and everything else. They had that type of intelligence and wisdom which we kind of lost over the years, over the generations, and we think that if we go to university and get good Martin diploma, then we are very smart and intelligent.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

Yeah, that's the culture that I grew up in. And I would not have uh I would not have sought out that sort of wisdom uh until I needed it. And then I realized, you know, I can't go to the traditional sources in my culture for this wisdom because no one else has it. There's very few people at the time that I could recognize that had it. I went to uh uh an Alcoholics Anonymous program and narcotics anonymous program for a while, and uh, people had some of it there, they had some basic principles, like it really broadly, you should be honest. Like being dishonest is really not good for you. I thought, wow, that's a really good idea. And so, you know, I learned these basic principles, and that wasn't enough for me. So I started meditating and eventually found my way into sort of spiritual teachings that could guide presence more directly, and then I was and I was really off to the races when that happened.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Nice. And after you um after leaving the treatment center, you ask yourself a very powerful question how far and how deep I can take this. So, what answers have you discovered so far?

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Uh that's a big question. Um, well, the context of that was I'll give I'll give you an example of how I learned that. I I learned that really practically because I realized I actually didn't know a lot about how I felt or what was happening in my body. This was pointed out to me. And you know, I would say something and people would say to me, and this one particular counselor one time that I really remember, he said, How do you feel when you say that? And I remember I had no idea. And I just had this realization that I'm just saying things that are not at all connected to what's happening for me. And I thought, why am I talking? Like it was embarrassing. Why am I talking if it's just words, like it's disconnected from any sort of lived reality? And I thought, that's such a strange, that's such a strange thing to do. I've never realized I'd do that, but I absolutely do that. So I started to pay attention to my body, and what I realized is that I held actually a totally different story of life in my emotional body, uh, which I began to have access about. And I made to realize that my body was holding a ton of energy and ton of information I was not aware of. And so very much I started, I had this question come out of this experience like, well, what else is in there? Right? If there is this inner space that I don't know about, like how deep is this inner space? How far is this inner space? And if you you ask the question, like, you know, what have I learned about that? I mean, I could I could talk for hours. I mean, uh, that's there's a lot. Uh help me simplify or or or or have a have a framework for how to spend such a rich question.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

And and do you think that this transformation requires a breaking point necessarily or can also come out of pure curiosity?

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Well, absolutely there is pure curiosity. I don't think there needs to be a breaking point at all. And I, you know, I teach now, and when I teach, I try to avoid people having uh crises. I try to help them to avoid those because human development is supposed to flower. The the per the in my view now, the design or the potential design of our uh consciousness is to be awake and develop awake as a progressive process through our whole lives that we flower into awakening. I it's for me, it's very unnatural that we actually experience this journey that's so common that I've experienced. We're lost, we suffer, we have to figure out how to get out of this problem, and then we have to kind of come back into ourselves. That that's for me a product of living in a really traumatized and dysfunctional world. So that's what's kind of normal in the West. That's how we think about spirituality, and we even romanticize it like, you know, wow, I had this huge insight later in life. And again, I think now it's not supposed to be like that. You're supposed to grow naturally into uh a developed consciousness uh progressively from from your process of incarnation through your whole childhood up into adulthood. That should be natural. So some people retain more of that, some people retain less. Obviously, I'm telling you, I retained very, very little. I got myself in a lot of trouble. Uh, but there are many, many people who retain more. And a lot of my work is to actually chart out with people that entire developmental path so that awakening becomes a natural product rather than something that we're trying to like figure it out or break through. I I don't think that's really necessary. I think it comes naturally when certain conditions are created and we can and we can talk about those. But no, I don't think it has to be. Um, I don't think it has to come directly out of suffering. It it's very common that it does, but it doesn't have to.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

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SPEAKER_02 13:28

Well, you're touching into the the story and the history of the earth, that's exactly it. And it's a really great question to ask a Westerner. Like if our uh civilization is so advanced, how come it's corrosive to everything that it touches? Um it's a really interesting question. Um so, in terms of you know, we could take this in lots of different directions, but in terms of what Westerners can do, uh, I think we we have a whole multitude of choices. I mean, uh popularly a hundred years ago, you'd have to make great efforts to go to India to meet one person who had any of this sort of wisdom, or potentially some sort of monastery in the West that you know, I'm open to hearing that that was available as well, or South America. You had to go a long way. But this global integration of awakening is spreading for it's spreading for various ways. It's spreading because waves of teachers went over to the east, gathered experience and came back. It's spread because uh eastern teachers came over here, and uh I would say it's also spreading through the process of incarnation uh that beings who have lived and carried this wisdom in their soul arrive all over the world. It's sort of you can imagine like stitching the world together through the process of being born, dying, and being reborn. And so there is this global convergence that is happening, and the the westerner now has a much broader uh choice as to how they are going to become informed, including through, I think increasingly through parts of Western civilization, things that are much more western and uh culturally similar than shamanism or Buddhism or Hinduism or any of the things that previously were really the only choice.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Yes, and I think those who were touched by the sacred wisdom from South America or even North America, they try to um emulate those teachings based on the Western thinking. So it makes them more appealing to those who think in a certain way, with the end result being the same, increase consciousness, open your heart to to love yourself and love others, and um do as much good in the world as possible.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

And well, I would so I would even go even further to say that the idea that we can do practices to improve our consciousness, I think is universal through all of these teachings. So the idea that teachings, making time for this, devoting energy to it, is becoming increasingly a thing that we do. So all of these cultures uh in different ways, absolutely, emphasize spiritual practice. And so this is the thing that I think most broadly we are picking up is oh, this is actually a thing that I spend my time and energy on. This is a thing that I develop, just like I develop my tennis game, or just like I develop my career, there's this other lane of development that I can go on. And I think Western people are actually quite uh understanding of that kind of development. We do it in all these other spheres, and so I think we take that on quite naturally. Just how we do that in a way that's really authentic and effective and um respects the traditions that we come from. That's a that's another question.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Yes, yes, for sure. Um, your method, the process, uh integrates awakening, healing, and manifestation. Why do you believe these three aspects much uh must evolve together?

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Yeah, um, so when I started teaching about five years ago, and I said, you know, that there is a process. That was the one I called it. I was like, the teaching is called the process. We're gonna do this work because awakening and healing is a process. And I spent five years, uh, maybe six years now, really working with people and listening, and I've developed my own method, but as and I've tried to make it as um inclusive and integrative as possible. You know, if you are awakening to the nature of reality, if the premise that I my reality is the one truth is that there is a creator in creation, that everything is creation, everything is an expression of the self, then that really should express itself through all of the things that we do and want, really, fundamentally. It should be an integrative teaching, it should affect every aspect of our life. And the when I was uh early in my journey, I recognized that I wanted all these things. You know, I heard this kind of menu of things that you could have in spirituality. You could, you know, you could become enlightened, or you could realize the impersonal nature of reality or the one true creator, or you could heal from trauma, which uh clearly I was very I had a lot of and I was very attracted to, or you could, you know, talk to ascended masters, or you could uh you know be in relationship with the earth, or you could uh travel through all the dimensions, or you could, you know, utilize your light body to manifest and create in this world. And I thought, gee whiz, I want, I want all of those things. And most of the time, what I experienced is the teaching teachings and teachers really focused on one aspect of that. Um, you know, non-dual teachers would de-emphasize pretty much everything else, the non-duality. Uh, healing and and healing teachers would de-emphasize everything else other than um you know your your your body and the energy that's in your field and and how to relate to that. And I found I was going from sort of one thing to another because I had this broad um desire to have all of them. And so now when I teach, again, what I find is the people that I work with, they too want everything. And more than that being um just sort of a fact of life, I've come to see that just like an intricate watch, all of these facets of consciousness actually work together. So it's not advantageous to me to do one thing. It's actually advantageous to me to do all things because they work together. You think about it like if you wanted your physical body to be healthy and you only focused on your kidney or your heart or your skin, that doesn't make any sense because the body is a holistic system. The kidney is not an actually an independent organ, it's dependent upon the entire physical system of the body. And so we can say, oh, well, that makes sense to me. And of course, in Western medicine, they don't necessarily practice like that, right? When you they specialize and very much compartmentalized physical health. But broadly speaking, we can say, okay, my whole being, my my physical well-being is is holistic. Everything and and increasingly people realize, well, that includes my emotional health, and that includes my my uh my spiritual state and the anxiety that I'm carrying. And so we're expanding our sense of what health is. So for me, uh, if we take these three things awakening, healing, and manifestation, we can dig into what those actually mean. They are part of one system, they're part of the movement of consciousness, and they're actually all designed to work together, just like your body, just like a watch. And what the challenge is is for me to say to someone who is new that uh we're gonna take on all these things progressively, uh, it in the short term, it's gonna be complicated. Uh, it's gonna feel like a lot, or it's gonna feel like there's this long progression and we have to do all these things. But in the long term, it's really gonna serve you. And that's my job is to explain why. There are teachings that earlier on were much uh cleaner to me. Like if someone says, you know, you know, there is no blaze or or no ajancha, or there is no self, it's like, wow, that's a singular message that I can like rally around. It doesn't feel like I have to pick up. 10 different things that are divergent and I don't know how they fit together. And they're really simple. So I think some of the most uh impactful teachings in the West are some of the simplest. Like I think about Eckhart Tolli a lot. He had a really clear and simple message. He had basically said two things there's awareness and there's a pain body. And you have to learn how to engage both with the pain you carry and the present moment. And if you take a book and you s and you make 10 million copies as he did, and you send it out to people, people can really take that message in without a lot of experience. There's not a lot they have to do. You can be a first timer and read that book and go, wow, that's so clear. That makes so much sense to me. And, you know, I am so grateful that there are teachers and teachings that are like this. But if from my experience, actually, there's a lot of value in actually spending more time and energy, investing more time and energy to look at your awakening and your healing process and the direction of your life more holistically. So I'm very much asking people to invest more time with me. And I have to sort of present that I know something that they can benefit from. And so what I would generally say is that people will have some insight or some breakthrough in some domain of consciousness, say they realize that they are aware and they realize the qualities of awareness and they have this profound sense of well-being that comes from it. What I find is as transformative as that is for people, as you could say true or true as a facet of reality, that that does not in and of itself transform every other aspect of our lives and consciousness by itself. And so people can get stuck. People can get stuck, not because they've done anything wrong, but because they have a narrow focus. Just like I could get stuck with my health if I only thought, if I thought hydration was the only thing that made me healthy. And I was like, hydration is amazing. If I just drink enough water, I'm going to be healthy. Well, what you notice over time is the benefits of that are going to, you're going to run out of benefits and you're going to go, what else is there? And so my job is to say, well, there's actually many things they fit together and we can go through that together. And I think in the past this might have been too much, but there are such rapid changes happening in consciousness that make um people are becoming increasingly successful and learning at such a rapid rate. I think part of the reason we had very simplistic teachings in the West as we began was because breakthroughs came through very infrequently. Very few people had breakthroughs, and teachers kept their message very simple. What I find is when I meet with people, people can get uh such a broad range of really sophisticated material quite easily now. And that's because consciousness is softening, becoming less dense, and the learning people are much more able to intake uh learning. And so I'm really thrilled to offer a really comprehensive and sophisticated curriculum where I say you know everything that exists in consciousness, I can take you through, I can take you through in a matter of years, and uh you can internalize this in a way that it's yours and not a teaching.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Yes, very interesting. And I agree with you. A lot of uh those I interviewed started with uh, you know, Reiki, then NLP, then breath work, then something else. And in the end, they either use these multiple options based on the client's uh necessities, or they will stick only to one approach and they get expertise or high expertise in in that particular field. And you mentioned uh hydration, and I can give you an example. One of my guests, uh Dr. Um Katie Deming, she used to be an oncologist in the US, high-paid oncologist, and she gave up that job several years ago when she realized that she's helping her clients die, not leave. And she became a holistic uh oncologist, taking them through various uh holistic approaches to their health. And in the end, she realized that water fasting is the fastest way to healing. And now she's holding um workshops and live sessions on water fasting with great results. So, again, it's whatever works for specific people in specific um health situations or uh psychological situations. And um yes, we have to understand and see what's out there in terms of, as I said, um over here, alternative methods of healing, you know, based on the interviews or I mentioned sound healing, energy healing, uh, breath work, NLP, anything you can think of, which anyone can access um for free or a very low cost. So, yes, what what you are doing is also part of this opening people's mind to alternatives.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

And it's for me, it's the it's it's part of the merging of our of our of our consciousness, it's part of actually the collective awakening that many, many streams of wisdom are actually flowing into a single, into a single sort of living body of consciousness. And I only expect that to continue. I I think that's going to continue. And so if you're listening, or if you find this kind of overwhelming, uh, you know, like for example, if if if you were if somebody were to teach me how to swing a golf club and they were like, you know, keep your elbow locked and don't move your feet and your head looked down. If they gave me all the pointers at once, I would not even be able to swing my club. So, but so what you do when you teach somebody to do something like that is you teach them one thing at a time. And you say, Look, I'm gonna be your coach for six months or six years, and over time, I won't, you won't have to worry so much about your elbows, so I'll be able to point to your feet and so on. So it's very natural that at the beginning, hearing like everything at once is too much for people. And that's why it's my job to make that a progression, to have a starting point that we we grow through together and not make that overwhelming, make the learning really possible. So I that's my uh that's my journey as a teacher is to make that uh as uh accessible and effective for people as possible.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Nice. And Blaise, what's the uh most common misconception for those who start working with the um consciousness practices?

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Gee, weirds. Uh well, I'll give you one one main one is if we hear a teaching that's based on equanimity or uh fundamental well-being in some way, people have a really hard, once they sort of achieve or recognize some amount of that, they have a really hard time integrating or making sense of all of the other parts of themselves that are not in equanimity. And this is for me the challenge of teachings that over-emphasize awareness or spaciousness or witnessing or any of the other uh, or or just the practice of meditation in general. We're over-emphasizing one part of life and de-emphasizing all of the other things that are essential about being a human being, such as feeling safe, such as having our needs met, such as uh the development of our will, such as the ability to care for self another without sacrificing someone or or pushing them away. These are all developmental things that we learn as children. And so if we give people a teaching that says, just be with things as they are, or just recognize the spacious witness that has no preference, what I find happens is people have a hard time actually integrating that into their life, where they're they need to use these developmental capacities of negotiating or relating to the world that happened through childhood. So, what I often feel is that people would prefer to sort of stay in at some version of equanimity, and they don't really have the skills to navigate all of the other parts that come up. Uh, when you have your boss, when you're talking to your wife. And so they tend to want to retreat back into everything's okay, but that's not really how it works. It's for me a fundamental misunderstanding. Everything is okay as the backdrop, it's the it's the paper that life is written on. Whatever there's many forms of fundamental well-being or aspects of it, but that's the paper of the story. The story itself is of human relating and participation. And so when people awaken to something that is fundamentally well, I find they have a very hard time integrating and making sense of all of the other things that occur in life that maybe they would label as being negative or painful, and they don't, they're not served by a model that doesn't have both in them and doesn't give them a comprehensive way to be with all of life. So again, this is much of what I what I aim to provide for people because I think again, it's all important. You have to talk to your children and your wife, and you have to be able to deal emotionally, and you have to be able to want things, and you have to be able to direct yourself towards what's really resonant for your soul, and you have to be at peace all at the same time. And that might sound like a lot, but again, that's all part of consciousness, it's all part of our design is to have all of those levels of development, and we need to be fluent in all of them.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Yes, indeed. And with so much um energy coming uh to us these days, you know, from the sun, from the society, do you see in your clients more trauma bubbling up? Um, and do they remember more than during a regular period in uh before, let's say, 2020, before COVID or something like that? Do you see a difference in how much they they express in terms of um emotional intelligence?

SPEAKER_02 32:27

Well, I think what you're saying is really important to recognize that we're human, the structure that we have known is under tremendous amount of pressure. And it's really hard to know what affects what. Um, broadly speaking, I would say that the pressure comes from the higher dimensions and the incarnational force of light, putting pressure on the subtle dimensions where trauma exists and breaking through into the physical reality. Again, I could talk about that more in depth. But broadly speaking, that's where I orient to the most pressure, being that expresses itself definitely as cultural tension and this sort of awareness of the deep personal, collective pain and problems that we had. You know, there was a story, uh very 1950s picket fence story that we were well. And uh for me, it's not that we've gotten less well, it's that we are more aware of that we're actually not that well because there's more light and more presence. So for me, um am I seeing more of that in people? Well, I'm not the best person to ask because by the time people come to me, uh, they're either looking for that or they know it's happening for them, or I help induce that kind of thing in them. So um I don't know that I'm the best person to ask about that. I think more broadly, I would say when I look at my culture and my world, people that I don't work with, I notice that. I notice that in my world uh every day. And I only expect that's going to intensify. There's really no way to get out of the way of it. Uh, it's like a a wave that's going to crash over our whole world. And, you know, I'm trying to get as many people to orient positively to this as possible and do as much work again, preemptively, so it is not a crisis. Because what happens is it's again, you you you ask me again, does it have to be a crisis? I'm like, for me, say, no, it doesn't. You can preemptively move all of the energy that you store without running into it because there's some sort of crisis. Now, I don't think our world is going to do that. I don't think that's going to happen collectively. Uh, there's no collective effort to uh in a unified way process and recognize the the depth of human pain and the this the real story of human history. We're not doing that. We're uh we're going to war with each other, we're trying to rig up our financial markets, we're trying to keep the party going in a variety of ways. I don't see that collectively that's going to happen. I think we are going to crash. And that could change tomorrow, but that's what it looks like to me. But in your life, in the individual's life, in the life of you and your family and the people that you are relating to, it doesn't have to be a crisis. And I, you know, people think, you know, how do I get prepared for the end of the world? For me, this is, I would say, start doing the work now. Don't let build a boat. Don't let the water crash over you. Start doing this work. It's coming for all of us. The more that you move through, you can call it your karma, you can call it your trauma, the more you move through it, the more there's so many benefits. First, it's just good for you as an individual. It's good for your capacities, it's good for your ability to navigate through the world and get a good job and have good relationships with people. It's just good for you in general. But what it's also going to do is it's going to allow that light that is really penetrating our world, that's really uh bringing the entire world to a higher uh to a higher frequency. It's going to allow that to be absorbed more easily in you. I mean, again, I teach people to be actually an active participant in the reception of that light. You can go with that movement of awakening collectively rather than wait for it to sort of just destroy your life and worldview. I mean, you don't have to wait. So uh yeah, I absolutely think that um more and more people are making that decision. Um, and I expect in in six months and six years, that's going to be uh like parabolically increase. I I think it's an inevitability.

SPEAKER_00 36:40

I agree with you. And um, because you mentioned about the the wave of light and the people you are now dealing with, um, it it I just realized that those who somehow don't believe in the work we do and the hearts we open and the minds we open and the consciousness we increase in those we work with are those very stuck in traditional religious dogma. And everything we do in their opinion and has nothing to do with the good, has everything to do with the evil. How can we address and explain to them that we work with light and we perceive light and we spread love, and they should not judge those who have certain skills because otherwise we go back to the Inquisition times where everyone will be burnt at stake.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

Well, first off, I don't I don't know the answer to the question. Perhaps your some of your Romanian history shines through in that question. Uh, I think that that is a very traditionally European problem. Um, and for me, I really don't know the answer to that. I really don't know what what is going to happen or how that is how that is going to translate. What I find in my life is those people tend to be non-confrontational and isolate themselves and remove themselves from my life. I don't have a ton of opportunity in the ones that I do is just to build a bridge that's experiential. So, you know, meeting people with words and explaining to them that I'm good uh is not particularly useful or interesting to me. What's interesting to me is when I actually can be with people and I can love them and I can care for them. And what I notice a lot of is uh in the people that I know who are religious, the place where they struggle the most is in regulating their nervous system. And because they're again, I'm speaking very generally uh and from my own experience, but their their teaching doesn't actually reach that, it doesn't emphasize that. So of course they're not good at it, right? So that tends to be where I bring value. I just help them feel their body and I help them express their emotions and I receive them and I help them be here and I'm I'm kind to them. I give them something that they don't have. So I let my actions speak. And in terms of philosophically, what is going to happen to the major religions um as we move forward and the just the traditional attitudes I mean, I'm a I'm a I'm a witness to this transformation just with you. I think I you know I I don't see them um very open to integrating. Uh they are by their nature in all the traditions of the world, they are by their nature conservative. And um so I think it's going to be challenging for them. I I see there being a lot of challenging. I mean, I I see that in my own family in relationship to the Catholic Church. That would be one place where I know the Catholic Church is having, uh, at least in our country right now, is having huge challenges and they don't seem to be particularly open to them. I I know that from personal experience because of my family history. Um we'll see. But again, uh I broadly speaking, I have a lot of compassion for everyone in the world and the strategies that they've used to manage in this fallen world. And I think in the end, everyone is welcome in my in my field. Everyone is welcome. It's hard to be a human being, and we all learn and open at our own rate, myself included, moving forward. So uh just lots of openness and care and receptivity. And I'm certainly not banging down doors and evangelizing people.

unknown 40:44

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

Yeah, very wise uh answer. Thank you very much. And Blaze, if you have the chance to invite three spiritual personalities to dinner, who would these people be, let's say, in the last five, six hundred years, let's say two thousand years? Oh man, what a funny question. Um let's put it contemporary or not contemporary.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

Well, I think they would be they wouldn't be content. I mean, they would be people who know things that I don't know yet. Uh they would be people that we don't talk about because we don't talk about people that we can't fathom what they've done. So the highest masters for me are the ones that don't even get spoken about because we can't actually wrap our heads around them. I mean, this is not to denigrate, you know, like the Buddha, for example. I I it's it but the there are so many the highest in my experience, the highest beings are silent because they exist at such a plane that um it's very hard actually to interface with normal human beings. So that's where I'm going. I'm very clear on that. And I would welcome any of them, any of the beings that um whose whose physicality is uh is very transient, whose uh ability to uh I guess you could say who no longer are confined to form.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Exactly, and I think the higher level of consciousness one has um less recognition he or she needs from the world, uh, which is pretty much an illusion. So they understand that and they just do their work from um behind the scene, behind the veil, helping us to remember, indeed.

SPEAKER_02 42:48

And I think that's how it's been. And I'm really excited to see how it will be. Because in a world that is open to this and begins to recognize this, that's a terrible organization of civilization. I mean, basically, we have the least no, I don't mean to judge the the leaders of our world. We basically give the most authority in the physical world to the people with the least spiritual development, and I think part of that is because the path towards leadership in this world is so gruesome and violent and difficult that it either molds or attracts those of you know low low spiritual integrity. So this is the opposite of how we should run our world. I mean, it's the highest beings that should be in the highest position of authority. So I would love to see that directly um directly uh changed as we move forward. I would love for uh it's actually the highest beings to be welcomed. I think there'd be a lot of mistrust uh in the populace. We don't do great with having gods walk among us, but that would just give us an opportunity to process and evaluate our relationship between. Between higher super beings and human beings. And I think we need to do that as well. It's a central part of our history.

SPEAKER_00 44:07

Yes, in fact, this was one of my themes since I started it podcasts to have those who want to enter the political path take a course in consciousness or a sacred plant medicine ceremony or something of that nature to open them up to a higher level of consciousness. And there is a very recent case, December 2024, presidential elections somewhere in Europe. I won't give more details when one of the candidates spoke in a way that people didn't understand. He talked about consciousness, he talked about basic needs that were kind of common sense for the nation, and people just couldn't understand common sense language, but at the same time, higher vibration language. So they had to rig the elections when they realized the powers to be, they realized that that guy is going to become the president. They rigged the elections, they stop the elections in the middle of it just because they wanted someone else to be put in place who will be on the strings. So sometimes or most of the time, population is not ready to be exposed to high vibration and good intentions because, again, as you said, they won't trust it.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

Yeah. And I would add that that they are, they were exposed to it. It was transmitted. They did receive it. And as it is with someone, I mean, if you take any aspirant and you say to them over and over again, everything is love, everything is light, there's infinite space and possibility. Some version of that, if you transmit that to them over and over again, that's the path, really. I mean, that's not exactly what I do. But that kind of transmission and having the student just be exposed to higher frequency and not get it, stay in the field and then wake up through that. That's what awakening looks like. So what you're describing is actually the process of awakening. It's the same for someone who's like, I went to a meditation retreat. I don't know, I didn't get what the teacher's saying. It's the same thing as what you're describing collectively. And so it doesn't actually matter if the uptake is there. What matters is that the transmission never stops and that the student keeps listening and feeling and tracking their experience and keeps being met where they are. So I mean, yeah, yes, I see how that is a sign of our scarcity, but it's also, you know, I don't know the specific case you're talking about, but it's it's also a sign of our abundance, right? That's how it's going to work. It's going to have there's going to be a lot of things that people don't understand, I predict.

SPEAKER_00 46:57

I mean, it's like that already.

SPEAKER_01 46:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

So, Bles, for this year, what uh other plans do you have or programs to to bring forward to your uh students?

SPEAKER_02 47:07

Well, I think another thing that would be really important to emphasize here is that many teachings really emphasize the path of the individual. And of course they do. You know, if I'm if I'm selling you something or you read a book, it's because you want to have a better experience of life. You want to wake up. And so if you go to a meditation retreat, for example, you sort of sit there in your own world and you hope that you have a personal breakthrough. And maybe sometimes, uh more, some places less than others. There's some orientation to the collective field or the fact that we're here together. In my work, this is really central. I don't teach individuals with the hope that an individual will have an awakening. I teach groups of people to work together so that all of the individuals in that group function as a whole. Out of this is what awakening occurs. And the reason that this is so central to me is because the idea that we are separate individuals is what we are waking up from. The revealed truth is that everything in consciousness is a field of interrelatedness. Every structure, every emotion, every everything that we have is a product of a you could call it co-creation and interrelatedness. And if you want to say it in a negative way, we'd say it in collective trauma. All of our pains are a function of the collective pain that we were all being born into and living through. And so it's tremendously advantageous in my experience actually to lean into that interrelatedness from the very beginning. So I teach through uh the way that I you to use my language, the way that in the fifth dimension connection works. And so I start off by teaching people how to relate in the way that our emotions and our body is actually designed to relate. It's designed to be felt and seen and received and to actually live in a collective space. Our body is actually designed to live in a collective space. And a good metaphor for this is like the internet. I have a phone. My phone now, maybe in the 80s, if I had a device, it would be disconnected from the internet and I would get floppy disks, and I would, as technology has advanced, there is no device anymore that is separate from the internet. There's no advantage to that. I mean, there's no advantage to me saying, I'll just do my, I'll store all my music on my phone because somehow that's going to give me an advantage. Everyone uses the cloud, everyone uses the internet. Why? Because it's a shared pool of potential. And everyone benefits by contributing to it, and everyone benefits from drawing from it. That's actually how our consciousness works. There's no advantage to being separate or working as an individual. I do, I don't see it. I what I see is that when you teach groups of people how to relate, uh, then they all benefit together. There's a, there's a there's a collective effect that is good for all of us. So I teach this, I teach like it's like learning a language. You have to learn how to actually participate that you have to experience it and learn how to participate in that. And then what I do is I take people through uh three kind of lines of development. One is the development from your birth through to your maturation as an adult. And you could think about that as moving through your chakra system or nervous system from your base up through the crown of your head. Now, when I had an awakening, as I've described, it started in the crown, and then I had to work backwards through my whole life. And that's very, very common. That seems really unnatural to me now. I think actually it should be, as I described, something that carries through your whole life. And I start people at the base and I work them through to the to the opening in the top. Then the second process is the process of incarnating, which is to suggest that when you are born, not only do you sort of grow vertically through your body, but you actually bring light into the world. But this is what incarnation is. And this is very much recognized in the lama system in Tibet, where they actually cultivate, they try to like re-weave light back into their system over and over again by seeing and helping the child or the llama see their light so that they can continue to bring this high consciousness back into the world. And I want to do that for everybody because everyone is bringing light into the world. And so I help people to recognize that uh through my groups. I help people to bring uh sort of fulfill the potential of their soul uh and then live from that light, which is how we get into teachings about manifestation. And then the third thing that I teach about is uh waking up in its broadest sense is knowing uh the nature of reality. And so, as a metaphor, if you go to Disneyland, you can go to all of the rides. Imagine you are in Disneyland, but you've never been outside of it. You go around to all the rides and you're participating in everything, and you find yourself saying, But where am I? What is this place? Seeing more rides and going to more places is not going to inform you about where you are. It's just gonna tell you about what is existing in consciousness. So most of the time, we're actually really needing to and curious about what's happening in consciousness or Disney World. But there is this longing to be free of it, to know to be beyond it, to know what is this thing? Why is there consciousness? Why am I? Why am I feeling? And there's an urge to transcendence, to to sort of witness consciousness from beyond, to rest in the absolute. And this is an essential part of the journey as well that I teach about. So these are the sort of three processes. One is a universal process, the nature of reality, the creation of consciousness, and the uh the witnessing of it in a in a in a sort of full and total way. And the second is incarnation in the higher light dimensions, and then the third is uh where all the, I shouldn't say where all the trauma is, but is our developmental process, embodiment and learning how to develop this sort of physical emotional container. Uh, again, all of these work together, they all facilitate each other, they all support each other. And you know, I start in one place and you can take as many groups and courses as you want at your own pace.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

Thank you very much. Uh beautiful, beautiful work. And people will find all this information on your uh website, blesskennedy.com, correct?

SPEAKER_02 53:52

I'll uh I'll send you links specific to this podcast in the show notes. So if you're listening on Apple or anywhere, I'll have you put that in the show notes. Uh, it's a link to my website, but specific to this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 54:05

Perfect. Bless thank you very much for this uh lovely discussion. Any final words before we conclude? Yeah, just good luck, blessings, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Uh, whatever you hear today and whatever you were doing in your life already, I I wish you the best. We're all in it together. Thank you very much. Much love. Much love, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 54:25

And to my viewers, thank you for um watching. Share it, leave a comment, visit the links I mentioned at the beginning of the interview. And until next time, love everybody.