Hello, how are you? God damn. God damn. This is who The Fuck knows with Emily Rose. I'm Emily Rose. Welcome to 2023 y'all. I am so excited to be back on the mic. I'm excited, particularly right now because Bravo's delivered Bravo has delivered, and I know I'm not exclusively a Bravo podcast and I know I've been missing for a while, so I'll explain that just a bit and then we'll get into it.

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All right, let's get started. Oh my God. Okay, so I've been missing, I talk constantly about how consistency is not my strong suit. I'll give you a little bit of insight into why had a couple of  pretty tough months. Uh, personally, I kind of just, I had a family situation and I wasn't at home. I wasn't living in my apartment for about a month.

I was living at my mom's house, which isn't too far from my apartment, but it's not in the city. And , she has at and t as her internet provider and very few outlets in her home. So all of that is to say recording at my mom's house wasn't really an option. I. Didn't really have a lot of time to like decompress and to think and to be in a space where I had, where I wanted to come and talk about anything going on.

Uh, there were some shows that I watched, some things that I did that were cool, but I didn't really have the wherewithal emotionally, mentally, physically to, to talk to you guys. And I feel bad. I really felt like, God, why am I letting me get me as pink would say so bad. But truly it just, it was just a tough couple of months and I, you know, I'm ready to go.

Let's, so let's just go. Okay, that's enough of the sad shit. Let's just go few things on the docket I was going to record over the weekend. Then I thought I would wait for the Vanderpump Rules trailer premiere, which did happen yesterday when I tell you I was. If you follow me on Instagram, either my personal at Emily Gogo or my, , professional, my ins, , podcast account, you would know that I was waiting with baited breath updating, tuning in, following Twitter accounts that I don't even wanna follow anymore, just to see when it was going to drop and ala.

As soon as I got home from work yesterday, the trailer dropped. So we will definitely be talking about that. You guys know that I have been saying I am waiting and waiting for this new season of Vander Pump Rules. I think it's probably the thing that I've been most excited to talk about since Southern charm.

On that note, there are some things that have been going on in the Bravo verse that I have not been as enthused with, uh, Beverly Hills, which we are going to get there. Really bummed me out this past season and kind of turned me off to talking about reality television because it wasn't fun. , it was plagued by someone who is no longer a part of it.

So hopefully that won't be an issue anymore. And then some other characters that I'm just not interested in. So since then I've been kind of down, Potomac has been out. I've been really enjoying watching Potomac. Commenting on Potomac is tough. If you are someone who listens to other Bravo podcasts or maybe follows other accounts or anything like that, you probably know that there's been a lot of discussion about colorism and things like that on the show.

I am not the right person to talk about colorism. I've been saying that, I've said it for the past couple of years that I've been on this podcast. When it comes to Potomac, there are just issues that I don't feel comfortable talking about. I don't, I don't wanna con, I don't want any negative opinions that I have to contribute to an already.

Tough conversation. That's not my place to talk about. So that's why I don't talk about that. However, I am enjoying it and I do still hate Ashley Darby. Don't worry, I'm not. I might have gone through something, but I'm not a completely changed person. I still think she's the worst. And I think that she deflects and I think that her outfit this week on watch What Happens Live was atrocious.

And I thought that her relationship with Luke was a scam and they're broken up. I'm putting that in air quotes right now because I don't know that they were ever truly together, but maybe, maybe, I don't know. So I still hate her. The rest of the cast, you know, there are other accounts that you can listen to, follow, read that give maybe better insight.

Uh, there Faison of uh, what else is going on? Podcast. Bravo. We are Black is another one. Uh, I got there. Bravo and Bake Oven, mit. So cute. . So cute, so helpful. I use it pretty much every time that I go in near anything hot . So check out their merch and there's a lot more Kendrick from not, what else is going on?

Kendrick from reality and comics. And then what else is going on is already, I've mentioned it. I don't know, I'll, I'll mention more as I come to think of them, but that's where you should go for a Potomac. Atlanta wrapped and they were rapping when I was still talking about Beverly Hills, and I don't, I think I probably mentioned that it just wasn't for me.

Uh, my favorites are all off the show, so I, I don't the, the drama, and I've said this a million times. I live in Atlanta. They, these women, I, I just take it a little personally, I felt like it used to be kind of true to what living in Atlanta or meeting people in Atlanta, women was like, and I don't feel like that's, , the, the vibe anymore?

I don't, I don't get that from them. And it's a little like, I take it a little personally. Maybe I shouldn't, so not sure if I'm going to be covering Real Housewives of Atlanta this upcoming season. But we will see, I think was the, oh, Southern Hospitality has been on, I'm gonna be honest. I'm very behind, but I'm hearing good things.

I saw, I saw the premiere episode, really liked it. I just haven't caught up with it because again, reality TV has been kind of a bummer. And then there's Salt Lake City, which is gonna bring me to my first topic, which I'm going to cover very quickly. Real House of Salt Lake City. They just filmed their reunion.

I believe that tomorrow, Wednesday is their finale. Good rids in my opinion. I know, I, I think it's so funny and I try not to get too into the discourse because that's when I get really discouraged and I don't wanna record and I don't wanna voice my opinion. But I do think it's really funny. There's this, this half of fans of the show that are like me, that are like, This show is terrible.

Nothing's happening. There's no, and anything that is happening is completely difficult to follow. And the new characters aren't really, they have nothing in interesting going on in their lives. And it's just kind of like a mess. And then there's another side that's like, oh my God, this season is giving it's drama, drama, drama.

But it's like, the drama is, I, I, I don't, I don't understand it. I don't get it. I can't even, you know, I love a conspiracy, you know, I love to hypothesize, but I cannot hypothesize on this one, guys. I really don't get it. I don't understand the Heather I stuff is like, and then here we go again. We're gonna have Heather, who was a quote unquote fan favorite for the first couple of seasons.

Now she's getting re ripped apart on social media, and I'm kind of like, . Let's just, let's just try to be a little more balanced. Let's like, wait a minute, take a breath. I do think that she's being really annoying. I kind of figured this was gonna happen, but also like I don't know what else is going on on the show other than Lisa Barlow, who I love.

So speaking of that, Jen Shaw, arguably the lead cast member of real Hawas of Salt Lake City, was sentenced to people keep saying six and a half years. , uh, I was told that it, when you have a month, like when the sentence is in months, it's not, you can't really translate it to years that way. I could be wrong.

I know that she can't appeal thanks to, uh, the Bravo Docket. They have a great series. The Bravo Docket is a podcast. They have a great series on Jen Shaw. Gives lots of information, lots of insight into what she did, what she ran, the kind of people she employed, and the kind of people that she scammed. And it's just a taste because there were thousands of people that they tried to solicit for this.

So really, really good. If you want more of a deep dive onto what she actually did and the sentencing and what went all went into it, and why she got what she got. At this point, I'm just kind of like, all right, the lady's going to jail. She's going to prison. Excuse me. L just, we just, okay, cool. She did this miserable thing.

She's getting a consequence for it. I, I, the prison system is fucked, but.  for her. If she really is this like family woman that she's kind of perpetuated herself to be, then I think that six and a half years away from her kids, while her kids will probably be very successful and have major milestones that she's gonna miss, um, she might have family members that go through trauma or maybe even pass while she's away.

I don't know. I don't, you know, think that's great, but I, it's the reality of living and I feel like that's a punishment in and of itself. So let's just go with that. You know, I don't know the nature of her and Coach Shaw's relationship. I certainly don't think that he didn't know anything. But that's my opinion.

So that's really all I have to say. I'm, I'm, they've really bummed me out because I'm just such a big, huge, I was such a supporter of real households of Salt Lake City and then it just, I gave to mean nothing. I don't, I don't get it. I don't get what's happening on the show. It's very hard to follow and not interesting to talk about, so I'm not gonna keep talking about it.

Real Housewives of Mi Miami though on Peacock. Very cool. Very good. Lisa Hawk. Bless girl. Um, I have my conspiracy mind took me to a place with Miss Lisa and with her husband, uh, soon to be ex-husband Lenny, and just kind of like trying to figure out like what his deal is and. Uh, with the new girl and like, they kept, I didn't, they were talking so much this season about like how he would throw these weird parties and they're not weird because of the activities that were going on.

It just wasn't really seeming like what Lisa was into parties with, like, all these young girls and DJs and like, very much like clout, chasy vibes and like he wanted to be famous kind of. And then when you, when you look into it, and I encourage everybody to do their own research, I, I think I see where maybe Lenny, the kind of culture sometimes attributed to, uh, uh, being on the c uh, maybe chartering or being part of chartering certain types of sea bound vehicles and a type of person, women industry that, that might attract.

And it would seem. Again, from my research that perhaps this is a pattern for him in the type of women that he pursues, uh, for marriage or otherwise. And that's all I'm gonna say about that. But I do love the show and I feel bad for Lisa and Julia's really cringe and, uh, I don't have much else to say. I'm really enjoying it.

I think everybody should watch it. Okay, so let's get into the real reason we're here, right? Other than the Vanderpump Rules trailer, which I will talk about. The same day that Jen Shaw was sentenced, Lisa Rena announced her quote, exit mutual decision Exit from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. After eight years, she gave a statement.

She said, this is the longest Jo job I've held, which is like, I get what she's saying, but like in any other context, like. . A professional wouldn't say like, oh, this is the longest job I've ever had. That's like, girl, that sounds like you can't hold a job. That's me. Look, here's the thing. There was a, there was also a statement.

There's been a few statements, right? One was from Harry Hamlin who said, you know, the show will be nothing without her, yada, yada, whatever. And then it said, my wife is not a liar and she's never lied and whatever. I'm like, I can't believe you guys are still trying to spin this. I don't think that the primary issue with Lisa Rena is that people thought she was a liar because clearly lying is not an issue for being a fan favorite or staying employed on these shows.

You got Erica Jane still on. Uh, Jen Shaw was honestly, is still a fan favorite, not to me, but to some people.  and she's serving years in jail for being a con artist, right? The list goes on and on of people that are liars that keep their jobs. The problem is that Rena's job as fans will tout all the way home.

Her job is to stir the pod and no one can stir the pod and nobody can bring drama like Lisa. Sure. Three seasons ago, four seasons, five seasons ago. Absolutely. But what the fuck has she stirred in the past couple of seasons, particularly this season? And look, I know that Lois passed away and I know that that was hard on her, but I can't believe that she can't just be like she kind of did early on.

But , she also look, if the excuse was, Hey, I wasn't present on this season because mentally and emotionally I was not present because of my mom. Totally understandable what she did though. What she did though.  was act a fucking fool off the show. And here's the thing. First of all, it has, it has come to pass that her contract was a thing.

So, uh, Kathy Hilton on the reunion saying your contract was coming up and you needed to find something to do to keep you relevant and to keep your job. I don't see a lie there, man. Her contract was up. Plenty of sources have said she was on a four year contract after her last one. This was coming up. She has not done anything.

What has she done? What ha what pot has she stirred? Let me think of the biggest drama things these past couple of seasons. So you have jacket gate with Crystal. That wasn't Lisa, that was Sutton technically, right? You have. This this year, crystal And the dark stuff, the dark comments that wasn't Lisa, that was actually Garel, who is a great pot stir.

Frustrating though it may be in her own right. Right. Lisa wasn't there to say, oh, even if she's saying, oh well what is it that's not stirring the pot that's asking a question? Garel very literally was like, oh, well you told me da da da da da. So that's stir the pot, not her. Oh. What else happened this season?

Well, you know, Erica, Jane EJ global, she is  going through a major divorce from a huge criminal. And if I were a pot stir truly with no alliances and you know, no, my hands aren't in anybody's pocket, then I would probably be like, uh, what are you hiding? And did Tom steal from these people? And are you gonna give the money back?

Oh wait, that that did happen though. Sutton did that.  Sutton did that. Put the little bit of probing from Kyle and Dorit last season. I'll give them that. How about all of the skepticism around DOT's robbery? I feel like there was enough there. Like why did you let them, you know, like why did you tell them to leave your phone outside?

Like things like that. That the audience who needs a true like Greek chorus to resonate with and to come off of. Why didn't you ask any questions about Doris robbery? Well, well, that would just be, well, you didn't feel like it was any kind of way when you asked her if she was getting up to do coke in her bathroom, you didn't feel like it was any kind of way when you asked a woman who was allegedly suffering from a major disease if she was faking it with Munchhausen.

Right? You didn't have a problem exposing another Hilton sister. Richard's sister, excuse me.  for being a drug, an alcohol addict to her sister, and then a friend of yours, and then more friends of yours. You didn't have problems with that. So now what I think we're forgetting is that for the past few seasons, Lisa has been trying to plant a seed or keep, keep her feet on the ground so that she wouldn't leave.

And it backfired. It backfired. She's not the one stirring the pot anymore. I'm, oh, sorry, . I forgot about the Elton John charity drama. That was dumb and she was proven wrong. Okay, so she didn't stir the pot, and as soon as Diane is obnoxious ass was like at this dinner where they're bringing it up and they're arguing.

As soon as Diane is like, this is not classy, then Rena goes, oh yeah, you know what? That's not classy. What the fuck? What do you mean? See the Rena that I liked, Would've been like, well actually Diana, I do think it's important. I do. I'll be honest. I think it's important, you know, like she would've done something like that, but no, she shut it down.

So what are you doing then? What is your point on the show then? And then she has these weird outbursts. The thing, I don't have words for it, but where she was like, if you come from my family, I have will fucking kill you. Or something like that. That was weird, right? Like that was a little, that was a little unhinged.

And I know we're here for unhinged, but like if that was not real then that was corny. If that was real then she must not be very fun to work with. Huh? Like cuz if she can like do that kind of thing out of nowhere for no reason, I just feel like eggshell.  is what we would be dealing with working with her.

So I can't imagine working for her would be any fun either. So then we get into all of the off camera drama and I just, guys, I gotta say, I know that a lot of people, content people are, have been saying, you know, oh, I think that Patrick Summers, you know, I can't, we just need to not give him a platform.

And he's just crazy. And you know, he, he just wanted to get his name out there and he wanted to be famous so bad. And I'm like, well sure, absolutely. I definitely feel like that's a thing. But what I find interesting is that in that original, if you guys don't know what I'm talking about, sorry, I felt, I keep forgetting that everyone might not know, but.

offscreen, right. While the show was airing, Lisa Rena had this whole ordeal with this kid named Patrick Summers who came out and like kind of there was out of nowhere, there was like this doxing situation that happened where he said that she had tried to talk him. It was just very weird. Okay. It was weird.

They both put each other's phone numbers out there. They both kind of went after each other and then things went really south and then out of nowhere again, he came out and said, um, actually all of this was a, this is all because I'm Kathy Hilton's assistant. I'm Kathy Hilton's personal assistant, and I also work for a major PR firm.

And, uh, this was all in an attempt to take. Lisa Rena down because Kathy hired me to get Rena off the show. I said it in my last couple of episodes about Beverly Hills. Kathy Hilton doesn't need to do that. I don't. I'm, I'm tired of it. I don't care what you guys think. I don't care if you hate the Hiltons.

That's totally reasonable. This woman , her daughter married a Roth's child, okay. Kathy Hilton is now by proxy, has Roth's child money, influence and power, aside from any kind of influence that the Hilton name might have or any kind of money that she might have, or the connections that they have built over the years.

Okay? Don't, don't flick your nose at the Kardashians. They're out here covering up ods and all kinds of stuff, okay? Allegedly. Okay. She has Rothchild money now. She has Rothchild. Influence and power. They're one of the most powerful families in the world. Yes. If Kathy wants to hire someone to take Lisa Rena down, if she has the time and ener energy to do that, she can.

And it won't be messy, and it won't be some kid, it won't be all of that. It won't be flashy. She'll just do it. She'll just do it. Just like she just got rid of multiple videos of her daughters acting, the fool being racist and obnoxious on on the internet. Just like she got rid of this one night, this one weird night that she just walks out of a popular LA restaurant wearing a toga, a tablecloth, toga, and nobody has any idea why.

And just like she probably did with the Aspen stuff, because let's be real, she probably said something inappropriate to someone at some point that night. But the thing is, Lisa  that you're forgetting is. . What I know happened in my heart. In my heart, I wasn't there, but in my heart, I know Kathy got in the van.

She started going off about this, that, and the third, and she hates her sister, and she can do this, that, and all these other things. And Lisa, I promise you, as Kathy said on the reunion, was sitting there. I know, I know. Yep, yep. And I've been saying that all along because she cannot risk. What is she gonna do?

Sit there frightened? No. You're gonna sit there and you're gonna agree and you're gonna agree and agree and agree. And then when you get home and she's throwing a tantrum, you're gonna try to calm her down. You're gonna be like, all right Kathy, I'm gonna go to bed. And you go to bed and you do the thing where you like lock your door and you're like, oh my God, don't let that woman come in here tonight.

And then you go to bed and you move on about your life. But with Lisa, it's not, it can't be that like, Cut and dry. It has to be, oh, I locked myself in my room, bitch, you locked your door. I lock my door. Everybody locks the door when they're in the house with a bunch of other people and you have your own room.

That's like, to me, that's what I think happened. And I think that she's giving facts like, did you technically lock yourself in your room? Probably technically, but you probably just locked your door. And was Kathy throwing a whole tantrum? Probably. But were you horrified? Were you telling her she was wrong?

Were you trying to get help? Were you waking up Mauricio in the next room like, oh my God, this is insane. I need you to help. Probably not. And guess what, if you did, it's never gonna come out, honey. Nobody's ever gonna see that when Kathy Hilton, I, I hate, lemme not hate. I get frustrated. I feel frustrated when viewers.

are like, now why would Kathy ever say that she could take n NBC Universal and Peacock and Bravo down all in one fell swoop? Why would she say that? Y'all heard me just mention the Rothschild, right? Of course she could if she wanted. Now, could she take them down like with a phone call? No, but this is how these kinds of things work When you have that much money and influence, man, when you're in, when you have these connections and you've built and maintained them successfully, everybody has shit on each other.

Okay? When you actually know and work and have stakes in these things, then yes, that's how this all works. The problem is Lisa doesn't have that. That's why she ha, and we all respect the quote unquote hustle, but that's why she has to do all of this low rent shit. We act like the diaper commercial thing is like.

oh my God. The diaper commercial girl. You do that stuff because you cannot successfully maintain and build relationships because if you did the whole PR scan that you tried to run with this Patrick Summers kid, it would've been successful. It would've been a clean sweep. Okay? It wouldn't have been this mess of a drama.

And I just feel like she is in people's dms. I feel like she is in certain creator's dms, and I feel like she is out there trying to get people to say, you know, oh, well, I didn't know him. He had your phone number friend. He had your phone number, he has your information. How did you meet him? And the most damning evidence to me came out last week that maybe the man, maybe the kid exaggerates, and maybe he doesn't want clout, and maybe there's not a whole lot of truth to it.

But isn't it weird though? That when interviewed Patrick Summer said I made, I met Lisa Rena, um, through having been, I think he said he was cast, maybe he was just being considered for being cast on a show, not affiliated with Bravo, that would be like a real husband's of LA type show, but it wasn't gonna be on Bravo and it was going to be a competitor.

So he couldn't talk about it, but that was what he was about to be on and he or he was working on it. And so he meant Rena because he wanted to connect with her for tips on how to be a great reality TV star. Now, funny enough, one of the main cast members of, now I'm sorry. Before we even get there, please note that at the time Bravo came out and said, Bravo has no plans of a real husbands of LA show.

And then Patrick came out and said there was no show. Bravo's telling the truth. Bravo was not affiliated with the show because it's an MTV show. Now, Patrick said in an interview that he, he thought it was gonna be on Hulu, but he didn't use Hulu. He like alluded to it and made like a cute little rhyme with it or whatever.

But now it's on mtv. That's not too farfetched for me. That's not too farfetched, that little, because I feel what's gonna happen in the coming weeks is people are gonna be like, no, but he said that there was gonna be a show like that on Hulu. Well, he never did say Hulu. He alluded to it. And B, this happens all the fucking time.

Shows get picked up by a network. There's negotiations. It falls through another network, picks it up, it goes through. You see what I'm saying? Isn't that so weird though? He said that's how they met. And then Brad Goreski, one of the main cast members is friends with Lisa Rena and he said he went to lunch with Lisa Rena and another man who, another, yeah man.

Cause it's about men. Another gay, he said a , a show about gay men in LA that's kind of like Real Housewives. It's supposed to be the gay man answer to Real Housewives. But it was on a competing network. I mean, and then he went with someone else who was cool with Lisa. Brad Goreski is cool with Lisa and I don't know that this ever happened.

He said in the interview there were no cameras rolling. The interview was on um, blonde Hair Blackheart. It's a podcast. His name is Blake. And I feel bad for the guy because afterwards he was like, I felt like scammed. I feel totally scammed and weird about it. I can't believe I did this interview with this guy who has no credibility.

But it sounds like he had a little bit of credibility cuz the show just got announced last week. . So where did he get that then? If he is a total, if this kid, as people have tried to paint him, is a total out of nowhere complete clout chaser who just happened to have a connection or two, and he like how, and then people are forgetting.

He also had text messages with Kathy Hilton. Now people are saying, do you know how easy it is to fake dms? It is, but if you actually watch the video of the text messages, he goes back to Kathy's page like every couple of seconds to prove he's actually on Instagram actually on Kathy's page. And maybe he made all of that up, maybe on top of being the world's biggest clout chaser.

He's also the world's best video editor. But I believe, and the, and the conversation he had with Kathy wasn't necessarily damning for her. She's like, uh, . It's very, it's very Kathy. . She's like, I don't really know you. No, I'm not gonna call you. I need some proof. I need some evidence. What is going on? I've never said anything about Rena, which she hasn't.

Okay. Or at the time she hadn't, she didn't have a problem with Lisa. Lisa has a problem with her. Lisa's jealous of her. Okay. She's mad. I said this too on my last episode that I did about Beverly Hills. Lisa's mad because she feels like she works harder than everybody, and other people get more attention for it.

Okay, so maybe jealous isn't the right word. Maybe it's mad. Maybe it's, you know, resentment. Maybe she has like, such deep resentment exacerbated by the death of her mother. Uh, her contract was coming to an end. Hello? Hello. I just, so it frustrates me.  when people say, you know, she would, when they say the thing about her being the best pot stir of all time, and she didn't do anything these past couple of seasons, she didn't actually do anything.

All the shit that she did was off the show. And so then you think about it from a network point of view, and they're looking at numbers, they're looking at money that they need to save. And then you'll see in September, radar online published an article saying, Lisa Rena, uh, is in contract negotiations for $2 million.

And at the time everyone was saying she's planting this so that when she doesn't come back, when she's announced as fired, she can say, oh, well they didn't gimme the money I asked for, they didn't gimme the money I asked for. Well, of course they didn't because , you never asked for money. Uh, you were never in negotiations.

Okay. , they told you they weren't gonna give you a contract. And so then you have people like Zach, Peter, this YouTuber, who just truly irritates the shit outta me. I'm gonna be honest. And I really try to stay away from talking shit about other creators talking shit I think I already have about Zach. So now I'm like, Ugh.

But he's coming out and saying, see, I told you Lisa didn't quit. It was a mutual decision. Yeah. She wasn't offered a contract. So yeah, I guess she mutually accepted, I guess she accepted that she didn't get a contract, and then he comes out if it, it was today or yesterday, I, whatever. But he was like, see, I don't really believe that Lisa, uh, didn't accept the, he said he's clever.

This one, he said something, I don't really believe the whole thing about her being offered $2 million and she rejected it. Of course you don't believe it because it's not true. It never happened. They never, that was never a thing. You don't believe it cuz you know it didn't happen because Lisa Rena has you in your pocket.

I'm sorry, I know people hate to believe this kind of stuff, but Zach is all over people's Twitter talking about, Nope. See she didn't quit, da da da da da. And I can't. But why are you ca like the thing with the Patrick Summers thing? Ugh. I can't believe you're even giving him any credit. I can't believe you're giving him any, why would he like, who would be he's, who would be that thirsty?

You bitch Cuz you're talking to her and I'm sure that she is asking you to put these things out and that you will have some sort of something in the future. Cuz that's what he really wants. He wants to be a real house husband of WeHo or what Real friend of WeHo is the name of the MTV show, the Real Friends of WeHo West Hollywood.

So that's what he's holding onto. Okay. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew exactly who the hell Patrick Summers was and exactly how all that happened. And if he didn't play handed and I really wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't. She, she came for the wrong one essentially. She came for Kathy Hilton. That was dumb.

She looked dumb. She doesn't have that kind of money. I said it, I keep saying I said it last time, but I really did and I really knew, and I know now she's never gonna be that level and she's never gonna be in that inner circle. And it pains her. Crystal doesn't do a whole lot on the show and people are saying that she's gonna be the next to announce her exit.

As of right now, we have Rena. Diana announced her exit, uh, yesterday, which sure  she wasn't coming back, but, and people were saying the next one to go is gonna be Crystal. Crystal doesn't do a whole lot on the show, but she's in the circle. She's in that inner Hollywood circle. And I just think it's interesting.

I think that Rena really, really wants it and she tries really hard and it doesn't get her anywhere. And then she looks dumb and that's how she looks. And Erica looks dumb right next to her calling her the goat girl. She is nobody's damn goat. Stop. Erica looks dumb. Erica . I believe that Erica will power through this season.

I do. And by power through, I mean like she'll make it through, but I'm interested to see who they bring on. There's a lot of speculation out there that Brandy's coming on. A lot of speculation that, uh, Vanderpump is coming back. There's been, uh, I don't think Denise has ever been seriously considered, but we'll see.

I already went on record and say, I wish Brandy would come back because they need somebody that's not, that's the thing is the great thing about Brandy being so trashy.  is that everybody thinks that she's trashy and she knows that, that everybody thinks that about her. So she doesn't, she no longer wants it.

She no longer wants to be in that circle. She has no reason to be in that circle. She already kind of did her time. So she might just say the thing. The problem is, I think I said this on Reddit too. She just walks a fine line between entertainingly messy and problematically messy. Uh, she made racist comments her first couple of seasons on Beverly Hills.

Really hope she learned. Whew. Who? Because that's gonna be a disaster. And back to the money thing, right? First of all, they won't have to pay Brandi all that much to come on. So if they're saving money, if they brought her back, I don't know. , Lisa Vanderpump might be a little different because of Vanderpump rules and we'll get there, obviously, but she might, her negoti, her contract negotiations might be different.

Like I don't think they would necessarily need to offer her quote unquote $2 million because she's already making money with them or something. Maybe I'm wrong, but there might be. Lisa has more leverage to be on the show than sorry. Vanderpump has more leverage than Lisa Rena, and they look at it and they're like, you're, you, you, you didn't bring anything to the season.

People don't really like you. People aren't really rooting for you. Most people were either, oh, we'll see, we'll see what she can do when she comes back, if, even if they're fans. No one had a solid idea of how she could be productive on the season, unless, of course, Nicolette Sheridan came on. , and that was a rumor that was going around last week that got debunked.

And no one ever knew if she even was going, you know what I'm saying? Like there's too many what ifs. And now, because Lisa spent all this time at trying to expose Kathy, in the meantime, all of Lisa's problematic shit came out because she wasn't careful about it. And again, she didn't, she doesn't have the PR clout.

I, I hate to keep using that word, but she doesn't have the pull to get her shit to stay down while she's exposing others. Right? So then the Nazi costumes come up, the racist remarks about, uh, was it Star Jones? I can't remember off the top of my head. But all of these things that she's done that have been really problematic and like, guess who got fired for that?

Stassi Schroeder. And guess what? Stassi was making them hella money. Stassi was a huge asset, and I don't think it was.  all because of that. I, I have a hard time believing Bravo is, uh, that virtuous. I don't believe that Stasi was fired primarily because of her actions, but , a lot of, it's not too far from Renville.

Okay. And I bet that there's a lot of other stuff. And the thing with the Kathy Hilton thing is maybe Kathy said something really horrible wasn't on camera. And Kathy Hilton has more money than Stasi Marinna combined. And without the hotels. Cuz everybody always likes to say, well, Rick wasn't, he didn't even own the hotels.

They sold that da da da da da da da. Yeah. She still has more money. Okay.  money isn't always cash. Power isn't always in cash. There's a lot more to it. Assets are a lot more complicated than that. Rena doesn't have any of that. She doesn't have shit. Her daughters aren't as popular as she wanted them to be.

like the most relevant thing that Delilah has done is call her mom out for being miserable, uh, on Instagram. And then the most relevant thing that Amelia's done is date Scott Disk. And he is in a den with Kimberly Stewart somewhere right now. So, I don't know. I don't know. Sorry girl. I can't believe she said Kendall.

I just, ugh. It's sad, but maybe she will take a pause and then, and they, and they're not using on pause, which I think is funny. They're like, we're not doing that cuz we don't need her ask, we don't need people begging us to take her off. Pause. She's fired. We'll make the decision if she wants to come back.

Okay. I think that's about it when it comes to Lisa Rena. Like, it just like, I like couldn't sleep the other night cause I was thinking about it and I was just so annoyed of.  because there was this article that was like, Rena being fired may be the biggest disaster for Beverly Hills. How, how is that a disaster?

She was, she made me not want to watch my favorite franchise. I'll say it cuz I enjoyed the season, uh, before this of Beverly Hills, a hell of a lot more than I did Atlanta, but they're probably neck and neck. Atlanta and Beverly Hills are my favorite franchises. They made me not want to watch it with all of the shit that she was pulling behind the scenes and talk too much about the damn show and try to make herself like, it was just so desperate.

Girl, shut up. Let us watch the show. Unless you have, unless you have something. And she didn't. She was playing on people's emotions. She was trying to pull out this like resentment that the public has towards the Kathy Hiltons of the world. She was trying to bring up Paris's shit and then she caps it all.

One of the last things she said before she went mostly radio silent. Not completely, but as far as the show goes, one of the last things she said on social media was talking about Paris's time in the damn torture school. Why would you say that you've literally lost your mind? Cause the thing is, what Paris went through was, it was just

I'm not gonna rehash it. What Paris went through is not just about Paris Hilton, that is a real school. The Provo Canyon School that she went to was a real school with real kids. I think some were some level of famous, and then a lot of just kids that were troubled teens. That industry is a horrific thing.

and it's really nasty that you would come and say, Kathy, say anything to Kathy about it. Because again, these places make money off of manipulating parents and validating parents and confirming their worst fears that they fucked up their kids somehow. And so we are gonna fix it, don't you worry, we've got this covered.

And then they take the kids and they physically, mentally, and emotionally abuse them, period. And Paris is not the only one. You don't even have to look at her documentary. Go on the troubled teen subreddit, go into do some research. The Provoking Canyon School before and after Paris Hilton. The schools in those states that have little to no child abuse laws.

It's a thing. So. Why would you do that? Because you're ignorant, Rena, you're ignorant and you don't wanna be, you don't care. You. All you see in your small mind is, oh, well people hate rich people. And I hate rich people because I'm poor too. Cuz she's broke too. Cuz she's, she's not making money. Hamlin's not making money.

The girls aren't making money. And they have this lifestyle from when the two of them, at least Harry was making mad men and all, and let me not whatever, he had lots of money from other endeavors, don't get me wrong. And from her soap days, and she doesn't have, they don't have that money anymore. And now she just lost a job.

Oh, well girl, you lost a job because you tried to manipulate a whole bunch of people. And much like, I don't feel that bad about Jen Shaw. I don't feel that bad about you either, girl. Bye. All right. Speaking of people with little money and a lot to lose, let's talk of Vanderpump rules. I've never had hatred for you, and now I do.

I think you're pathetic. I think you're Arun and I think you're a loser. This does not affect me at all.

You guys. Ugh man. Oh man. I am so excited about Vander Pump Rules Season 10, their 10 year anniversary, I guess, or 10 years since the show started was a few days ago. I wanna say Sunday or Saturday.  and they're coming back with a fucking bang. Okay? I have been saying that this was gonna be a good season, and you know what?

I'm leaving doubting myself in 2022. In 2023. When I say something's gonna be good, it's gonna be good. Damn it. If it's the last thing I do, and Vanderpump Rules is gonna be good this season. Now just I wanna in 2023, we're not doubting ourselves. I don't know if Summer House is gonna be good this season, I'm just gonna say, but I haven't seen the trailer yet.

We're supposed to be getting the trailer soon. I believe that New Jersey Summer House and Vander Pump rules are all coming out in the same week or same couple of weeks. So we'll see. But I think that Vander Pumper rules is gonna come up on top. I am so just so ready to explore the drama. I am so ready to see Katie as a single woman.

I am ready for Tom Schwartz and his villain era. Ugh. People have been saying for so many years, you know, we see this one guy on the show, or you might meet him in real life and see this one guy, but he's just not that person if you really get to know him. And I feel like this trailer kind of highlighted some of that.

Now, do I disagree with his roasting of Lala Kent? I do not disagree. Uh, she looks crazy. She does, but I'm, and I hate doing this, but I'm gonna give her a pass. Uh, I think she's going through a lot. I was talking about this on Reddit, maybe Instagram, maybe both. But a few weeks ago, Lala was the guest on Heather McDonald's juicy Scoop to talk about this is kind of dark.

So Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Okay, let's go. Lala was talking about the Balenciaga scandal, and she was so, she was so passionate.  in a really dark way. I'll just say that the way that she was talking about, she never mentions Randall. You know, she doesn't mention anyone. She just is so sure of herself when she says the dark shit that goes on in some of these circles.

Circles that she believes higher up or influential people in Balenciaga, or that worked on the campaign or that have been affiliated with Balenciaga are in it. It was really hard to listen to cuz I really felt like she knows something and I do not, please don't get me wrong, do not twist,  my words.

I do not think that that means that she has anything to do with it. I just felt like she knew more than she ever wanted to know. . And I think that she genuinely, you know, , she gets kind of fake woke, fake, passionate, fake, uh, social justice sometimes, in my opinion. Sometimes she's real about it, sometimes I don't know.

But this was something that I was like, girl, if you went on a campaign and you really devoted some time to this, I would listen because I think, Hmm, how do I put this? I think that Lala has, I, I think that to get with a man like Randall in the manner that she got with him, I think she probably already had to be in or adjacent to circles of people that do things that are not culturally appropriate.

is that a PC way of saying it? I think that she, I think that she dealt with people that were into dark shit, cuz I think she dipped her toe into some, uh, circles where men treat peop other people, women, uh, like they can be bought and sold. How about that? And I think that men like that, and I talked about a man that I think is also like that.

Again, please don't take this the wrong way. Please don't, please don't mix my words up into saying or thinking that I am saying that any of these people have anything specifically or directly to do with any kind of abusive or exploitative shit. Particularly when it pertains to children. That's not what I'm saying, but I'm saying that I think that there are people out there that are really sick and I think that a lot of times to keep that kind of sickness under wraps, you have a lot of money.

and I think that's what Lala was trying to say in the juicy scoop. And I think that she, I think that she knows that the shit's real and I think that's why she got herself and her child the hell out of it. Okay. And good for her because that's scary. And so at the end of the, the trailer, I'm sorry to start off something, I'm so excited about something so dark, but it's just, it's been on my heart cuz it, when the news broke last week of some of the stuff that Randall's accused of, I just could not stop thinking about her, her interview with Heather and I just kept thinking, God, she is, she is not playing around.

And I think that she has unfortunately had to be exposed to, in the sense that been made aware of is a better word of things that us, you know, day-to-day people. Would never, could never dream of. And I feel really bad for her, and I feel really bad for that kid. And I don't normally feel bad for her. Like 90% of the time when he was cheating on her, didn't feel bad for her when they got divorced, didn't, didn't feel, didn't feel really bad for her.

In this situation, I do, because I think that the kind of stuff that he's accused of is just a true, uh, I mean, I don't, there's not a word evil. I think it's evil and I'm glad that she got out of it. And I, and I truly believe that she's out of it. And I'm not a Lala fan, but I'm, I'm really glad for her.

Okay. On to light stuff like Tom Schwartz, , God, this guy, I mean, look, we've known for years that he is a, not a good, not a great husband. We've known for years that he and Katie are not a good match, and that Katie sometimes is really a bummer to be around. But I think.  ultimately, like this is for the best.

I think everybody, I mean, we already know this was for the best, the divorce is for the best, especially the best for the show because this show is at its best when people are single, when people are messy and there's like one really dark undercurrent. Okay, now I absolutely could do without the Randall stuff, but like with Shea, right when Sheena was married to Shay, Sheena Shay, Shay Sheyy good as gold, and then we found out about his stuff.

And so like you had like real like personal relationship oriented deep shit going on with Sheena. And that was something that I think was important for people to see because especially with the heroin and all of that, allegedly people.  we're going through that. There's a literal epidemic I think that that was really important for, for people to see.

And then you have the messy single bullshit over here with like Stassi and the chaotic, the chaotic relationship dynamics and friendship dynamics and girl drama. And ugh. It's just, it's the formula for old school Vander Pump rules minus the restaurant . And I'm here for it. And you know, another thing that people keep saying is, do we need Vander Pump on Vanderpump rules?

Yeah. I don't know why p I don't know what bothers her, why people are so bothered by her being on the show that she created. I don't know. And yes. Was she the center of the show? Never. No, but she's kind of like the, she's the anchor for the show because if she wasn't there, whether it's fake or not, , these kids would just be running damn muck and there would be nothing to bring it home and nothing to kind of tie these people together.

And that's what she's there for. Her investment in Schwartz and Sandy Schwartz and Sandoval, opening their own restaurant is vital, right? Because they wouldn't have had that opportunity without her. So I think that it's kind of crazy to even posit that she shouldn't have a role on the show. The show's called Vanderpump Rules.

I don't know. I don't, I don't get that argument particularly. And I love Lisa Vanderpump too. And then you have, of course Raquel, um, hooking up with Oliver Garel from Ru Halls, one of Beverly Hills Elle's son hooking up when I say that, cuz girl, I believe that all of them are sleeping around. But I'll give, uh, you know, I'll give grace wherever grace is due, hanging out, making out, dating, whatever you wanna call it, with Oliver who is married

Still  it seems like garel wasn't like shaken by the revelation that Oliver and Raquel maybe, you know, had a little dalliance. So I'm wondering C so offscreen, which, you know, how I feel about offscreen, you know, drama. But recently Oliver's wife came out and went on a tirade against Raquel, calling her a home record, calling her all these things.

And everyone was like, oh, they're still together. Cuz we all just kind of assumed they weren't together. And now I'm kind of thinking, well maybe that's a little bit of the Venda pump. She trickery, you know, maybe she was doing that to drum up interest. I don't know. That's like the least interesting part of the show to me, honestly.

So if she was doing that for interest, that's fine. Whatever she's gotta do. Um, or he was just out here straight up cheating and garce straight up doesn't care. And that's fascinating to me too. So there we go. . Feel sorry for his kids though. Obviously then you have a James. That's another thing, man. People are like, oh my god, James isn't sober.

And I was like, oh, I thought we all kind of, I thought we were all on the same page about that one. Cuz I kind of definitely thought he was not sober. I thought we already knew that. I don't even care. Like I don't even care what he says. I just thought that everyone knew that that was kind of like a Hmm.

The sobriety, particularly when it comes to alcohol thing was less about being sober and more about, uh, being awful to people that he works with, making them miserable. And I also don't think that drinking was his primary problem. I've said that a million times. So whenever he would go sober, I don't think that the expectation was that he would stop drinking.

I thought that it would maybe be that he would stop him vibing in other vices of his, if you will. And the pasta, obviously the pasta we're talking about the pasta. . So yeah, seeing him kind of go off the rails and his weird relationship with his weird new Raquel, I'm gonna call her new Raquel. I know that's so disrespectful, but she's new Raquel, new Raquel.

And  kind of having the same problems that he did with OG Raquel. I'm like, okay, I'm not, again, I'm not invested in that, but, uh, loop me in because I couldn't tell if it was editing. Just try to make us think this. And it's really lame of them to do this. If it's, if it's editing, which I kind of have a feeling it is.

Lala goes, well, of course me and James hooked up and I'm like, they stop right there. I'm like, is she's gonna say back in the day? , you know, once, like, is that, is that an unfinished sentence that's making us think that she's saying that they.  hooked up once. They were both single. I think they both hooked up.

I really do. I don't care what they say. They, they could ring my doorbell to tell me. I did not hook up with all her. Okay. He could totally do that and I would still not believe him. , I think that once they were single, they had to, they had to bang one out. They had to, they had to just try it out, get that tension out so that they could move forward and be productive CI citizens.

I thought it was really fascinating. The scenes where Raquel is sitting there with the new Raquel and James and Lala. I'm like, this is so messy. . Not to mention Raquel making out with Tom Schwartz. Now it has been reported that. Or assumed guest on the internet that the thing with her and Tom was like, they were playing a game or it was like a joke or something like that and it wasn't that big of a deal, but it's being drummed up to be a bigger deal.

I don't know. Katie seems pretty un displeased. She seems displeased on her Instagram. She went on a crazy rant about sink water or something the other day. I, I don't know, but I recorded all of it was yesterday cuz the wait I was waiting anxiously for the v p trailer and I was like, this is pretty fascinating.

Honestly, I think she had eaten an edible or something. I don't know what her deal was, but she was not making any sense. And she's made some like cryptic IG posts. She doesn't seem to be with anybody. Like I know she had a picture with uh, Lucas Gage or something like that, but she doesn't seem to be with any of the girls, any of the cast members.

So, , then she posted something cryptic about not trusting anyone, and we haven't seen her with the girl. So I think that there's an assumption that something went on with them. And honestly, that's off camera. I kind of wanna know about it. , so I'm fine with that. Honestly, I don't hate all offscreen drama.

I just hate what Lisa Rena did. I thought that was messed up. But I think that if they wanna have offscreen drama, bring it on child. As long as, as long as the show is still giving us something, I'm fine with it. And I don't think, the thing is, it's hard for me to imagine that the show wouldn't give us something.

And I have something kind of exciting that I'm gonna do. , I don't know if you guys watch YouTube, but if you do, there's a lot of YouTubers that do tier lists. So in anticipation, once again, I watched all nine of the Vanderpump rules. Season trailers so that I can tearless them.  HIAs is gonna be sir alleyway cuz that's iconic.

That's iconic status, right? You'd think that would be the dump? No, that's iconic. And then the lowest is going to be  Villa Blanca cuz everybody says that place is trash. So, and then there, there's several in between obviously. But what I noticed when I was taking notes on them, I was like oh my God. And I was like, am I just loving this trailer because I loved the season or am I love loving the trailer cuz it's a good trailer.

But I noticed that even the trailers like, I think it was season six, I think it was season six, the Bamb I Bitch Season and Lala and the J Lo outfit that was six or seven even that season, which is so iconic, so great. A lot of the drama. Was in the trailer. I'm like, oh yeah, I remember that. Oh yeah, I remember that.

That's like my favorite part. Duh. And I was like, damn, did they give the whole season away in the trailer? But then I'm sitting here, I was rewatching that season and I was like, no, this season's really good. Even if they gave away a lot of the drama in the trailer, it's still a really great season. And there's still a lot of underlying moving pieces that you don't see in the trailer because, you know, it's a story that made the season.

So I'm gonna say for my research that a great trailer is a great indication of a great season, cuz like those last two trailers of the last couple seasons were trash, they were boring. Nothing happened. And I was kind of like, what is this? This is lame. So, you know, maybe there's something good to come.

I'm just, yeah. The Lala thing is I can't, if she's really gonna talk about it, she's gonna get. , she's gonna get some points and I just really can't stand her. So if she gets points from me, then that's how you do reality tv. That's how you do reality tv. And then I'm trying to think, oh the, well this was shot to hell, but Sheena says that someone told her, I think Katie told her that Tom and Ariana are in an open relationship, which I always assumed kind of.

I was always like, oh yeah, they've gotta be in an open relationship. But then Ariana took to Twitter Monday night and said, yeah guys, we're not in an open relationship. I'm really not that cool. I kind of thought you guys knew that already. And I was like, you know, come to think about it. She kind of isn't that cool.

She had, she hooked up with Lala. , but open relationship and inviting people in as a third is very different. Very, very different. So I'm wondering if we're kind of doing that kind of thing and since most of people, not us, obviously nobody listening to this podcast, but most people are kind of ignorant to the distinguishing factors between polyamory, open relationship, inviting someone in as a third swinging, all of swinging, Whitney, rose, all of these things that to them may be inviting.

A third is an open relationship, but it's not at all. So, I don't know, maybe there's some nuance there, but I, I, now that Ariana said, I'm like, yeah, I don't really see you guys being in an open relationship and just like, and they kind of aren't in a position where that would be a good idea. You know, cuz they're on TV and they've got a certain level of fame and.

You know, people are gonna wanna, you know, they, they, the Vander Pump Rules cast has gotten a lot of people that have tried to glam onto them for fame, for no reason. They've, throughout the years, podcasters, YouTubers random people on the streets, like they've, they people wanna be on the show and they'll do damn near anything to do it.

So I don't think that that would be a very healthy choice just for their careers either. So yeah, inviting people in as a third though, I think they kind of have, right? Like you have explicit permission. I don't know. I don't know. It's really not my business and that's again, one of the least interesting things to me.

What else?  Katie, Tom, Tom, Ariana, Sheena and Brock. Not very much in this trailer, but they're chilling and they, they kind of tried to pull, I don't wanna say they pulled a Gisele, Ashley v Chris on them, if you know what I, on Brock and Sheena. But they definitely kept trying to,  talk about something that they didn't know shit about.

And I st to this day, I don't think that they know anything about Brock's situation with his ex-wife and his kids. And I think that was really damaging to Sheena and to Brock, like as, as like a couple and to their kid. So I think it's best that they kind of have a break, so I'm okay with that. There was, I guess, speculation that maybe one of the fired cast members, as they call it on the Vanderpump rules subreddit, would be maybe making an appearance.

We did not see that in the trailer. However, you know, time will tell Kristen I think is really gunning for a cammy of, sorry guys. There's a  that's a helicopter. That's two helicopters. What are they doing?

Sorry, is blinking green? It was kind of close. Anyway. Whew. Let me, let me wrap this up. Clearly I am not  well rested enough to  continue to talk. Just know that I'm really excited if we get another teaser. You know, I'm, I'm fully in on covering Vanderpump rules for at least the first few episodes. Let's say, let me commit to three episodes, and if I'm wrong and the show is boring, or the, the fans do that thing that they like to do where they take something that's not really the plot of the show, and then they make it a huge thing on the internet to the point where by the time, you know, you get your equipment on to record, you're exhausted from it already.

It, unless that happens, which is possible, it could happen with any of the shows that I want to cover. Then  I won't cover it, but hopefully, hopefully we can, hopefully the season has enough substantial drama and, and real. , things worth discussing that are shown on the show that, that people don't need to deep dive into  maybe other characteristics that could be at play or could be perceived to be a problem when they aren't explicitly shown on the show.

If you feel me, if you catch my draft, speaking of that, I will not be covering Ru Housewives of New Jersey. I cannot, until Caroline Manzo comes back on my screen. I have nothing, I have no interest in New Jersey. I really tried last year. My friend Tyler, you guys know Tyler, he's been on the pod several times.

Love him. We love him. We went and saw, watch What Krens Live and we love, I love watch What Krens, but they covered an episode of New Jersey and I'm not that interested in New Jersey, but I tried last year so that I could, you know, be prepared for their, for their recap live. And it was really, I mean, their recap was great, but trying to get through that show was a terrible time.

And I will not be doing my that to myself this year. I'm not gonna watch stuff that makes me like, I've already started like Winter house. I was so excited. Then it fell off. I stopped watching. Um, I'm not watching Salt Lake City when, when if I put it on, I put it on. But it doesn't matter cuz it's like watching, you know, static on a TV screen.

I don't really understand what's going on and it's not really intriguing to me. I can kind of zone out, so that's fine. I can't see, I, I can't see anything worth talking about. Even with the reunion. I don't, I don't care about a black eye. Like I, I think everybody's pretty much on the same page. Like, we're tired.

Unless she, unless she really comes out and says, yes, Jen punched me. We were  hooking up and  things got a little carried away and she punched me and she didn't wanna hurt her case of her marriage. So, cuz like that's the only like, They're be, I mean, they seemed like they were, you know, maybe gonna make out a little bit, you know, I don't know.

And maybe something happened, things got rowdy. This is all the legend and this is, this is an unhinged tangent on my part, but that's the only, that's the only way I could see Jen like punching her. And then nobody on Bravo explore. Like, it doesn't get out. It doesn't, you know, cuz if it was like a mutual situation and someone got hurt, then I can see why Bravo wouldn't need to expose that or would feel uncomfortable because there's like a marriage involved.

I dunno, people think that Bravo doesn't protect people ever, but I think that they do. Um, and I, I especially think with the courts being involved, Bravo wants to save their own asses. So that's my opinion.  Other than that, I don't really see a need to, to even like, think about real house Wests of Salt Lake City forever.

and let's see, was a, oh, so summer house? Yeah. I don't, we'll see man. I'm so tired of Paige and I'm so tired of Craig and I am, oh my God. Fuck that. Catherine Dennis fired. And this is like, like, there's like up in the air about whether or not Rena was fired or left or mutual, but they're saying that Catherine was fired, bro, for  I was about to say something So unfounded for bad behavior, let's say that behavior of people that are not in touch with  time or respect or anything.

And so she's out, gotta say, kind of breaks my heart. Not gonna lie to you guys. . She's a bad person, I think, but man, she is Southern charm. And then you got people being like, Shep can go next. Let's come on. Can we not do that please? Because like, that's how we got Jacks off the show. And like, granted, I do think that Vander Pump rules is gonna be good this season, but we need a little bit of, we need a little bit of characteristics of someone who is completely not self-aware and Shep is not self-aware and he's jealous as sh there's the show is not about.

Just the girls are just the boys. But God, Southern charm is really about the boys more than anything and how much they hate each other. And if you take Shep out of the equation, then you're just gonna get Austen trying to fill Shep's role. And that's gonna be a disaster because Austen's not as well-read as Shep.

And so it's funnier when Shep's an idiot because he talks really well. And I don't know. I think you need, I think you need Shep. I'm just gonna say it. I think you need Shep now what I'm wondering, and I does, just came to me, does this give an opportunity for Cameron to come back now that Catherine's gone?

Cause you know, Catherine was the real reason that Cameron was like, I'm done. This woman is a menace to society. If Cameron comes back to Southern Charm, I, I'm watching bro. I'm watching cuz if anyone's gonna dress down, , these rambling ass men like Craig and Austen and Shep. It's Cameron. You, is it Eubanks?

It's Cameron Eubanks. I think that's her last name. I don't know. God. Yeah. Summer house, whatever. We'll see, we'll see. Um, I can't, I don't, let's not talk about Summer House. I've been talking for too long. This is my first episode back in a couple of months, so I'm gonna wrap it up here. Guys, thank you for listening.

Thank you for tuning in. Be on the lookout for that tier list cause I'm very excited to make it. And again, if you wanna follow me, follow me at who TF knows Emily Rose on Instagram. That's at who TF knows Emily Rose. You can follow my personal Instagram at Emily a Gogo. Twitter at wtf. K Emily Rose. And if you guys want to, you know, donate, I'm looking into some stuff.

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Sorry. One last thing I forgot to mention. When Yellow Jackets comes back, I think I'm gonna cover that week to week. We'll see. Um, I know I don't do scripted shows typically, but I will be covering that and just like that, season two, Gonna be hard pressed, sunny, you're gonna be hard pressed to find me watching that shit unless I hear that  Michael, Patrick King  got a dress down by somebody.

I'm not watching that. But yellow jacket season two coming out in March. I do plan on covering that. We will see. We will see. And okay, I already plugged on my stuff, so I will talk to you guys later. Bye-bye.

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