{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":21.02,"endTime":24.259999999999998,"body":"Welcome back to the"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":21.02,"endTime":24.259999999999998,"body":"Midsters Podcast. I am Tish here"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":24.259999999999998,"endTime":28.49,"body":"with my co host, Ellen, when we"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":24.259999999999998,"endTime":28.49,"body":"launched the Midsters podcast"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":28.58,"endTime":33.14,"body":"four months ago, we had a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":28.58,"endTime":33.14,"body":"concept of what our podcast"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":33.14,"endTime":38.599999999999994,"body":"would focus on. Well, for months"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":33.14,"endTime":38.599999999999994,"body":"19 episode and 1000s of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":38.599999999999994,"endTime":43.34,"body":"listeners later, we couldn't be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":38.599999999999994,"endTime":43.34,"body":"more excited. What we found in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":43.34,"endTime":47.9,"body":"our first episode still holds"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":43.34,"endTime":47.9,"body":"true. We want to show other"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":47.9,"endTime":51.59,"body":"women how to create their own"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":47.9,"endTime":51.59,"body":"butterfly moment."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":53.150000000000006,"endTime":56.69,"body":"So Tish, let's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":53.150000000000006,"endTime":56.69,"body":"explain for our newer listeners,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":57.05,"endTime":61.28,"body":"and maybe some other listeners"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":57.05,"endTime":61.28,"body":"who may not have had a chance to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":61.31,"endTime":66.2,"body":"listen to our inaugural episode"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":61.31,"endTime":66.2,"body":"yet. What a butterfly moment is."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":66.98,"endTime":70.82,"body":"This was a new concept for me"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":66.98,"endTime":70.82,"body":"when you brought it up. But it's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":70.82,"endTime":75.65,"body":"not only one of our most popular"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":70.82,"endTime":75.65,"body":"episodes to date, but it also"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":75.67999999999999,"endTime":79.52,"body":"really is the essence of our"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":75.67999999999999,"endTime":79.52,"body":"podcast, it tells you what our"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":79.52,"endTime":84.77,"body":"podcast is about. So a butterfly"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":79.52,"endTime":84.77,"body":"moment, recognizes that even as"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":84.77,"endTime":90.02,"body":"midlife brings dramatic changes"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":84.77,"endTime":90.02,"body":"in our lives, it can be a period"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":90.05,"endTime":94.67,"body":"of renewal and rebirth. The"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":90.05,"endTime":94.67,"body":"changes we face as women at"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":94.67,"endTime":98.93,"body":"midlife could be anything from"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":94.67,"endTime":98.93,"body":"becoming an empty nester losing"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":98.93,"endTime":102.65,"body":"our parents, the loss of a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":98.93,"endTime":102.65,"body":"spouse or partner, or even"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":102.65,"endTime":107.51,"body":"retiring from a long term"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":102.65,"endTime":107.51,"body":"career. The bottom line here is"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":107.51,"endTime":113.12,"body":"that midlife brings us change."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":107.51,"endTime":113.12,"body":"So basically, our first episode,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":113.36,"endTime":117.5,"body":"what we talked about is how we"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":113.36,"endTime":117.5,"body":"can either let this time become"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":117.5,"endTime":123.98,"body":"a midlife crisis, or a time of"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":117.5,"endTime":123.98,"body":"renewal and rebirth in what we"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":123.98,"endTime":126.2,"body":"call this butterfly moment."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":127.09,"endTime":130.12,"body":"Ellen that is like"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":127.09,"endTime":130.12,"body":"so well said I just love this."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":130.48,"endTime":134.59,"body":"So it's at this time of our"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":130.48,"endTime":134.59,"body":"lives, that we should be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":134.59,"endTime":138.16,"body":"embracing these life changes and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":134.59,"endTime":138.16,"body":"not being afraid of them. You"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":138.16,"endTime":142.42,"body":"know, we can start by"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":138.16,"endTime":142.42,"body":"reconnecting with the things"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":142.42,"endTime":146.77,"body":"that we were passionate about in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":142.42,"endTime":146.77,"body":"our youth, we can find new"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":146.77,"endTime":151.93,"body":"challenges and new adventures to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":146.77,"endTime":151.93,"body":"get excited about Yes. And in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":151.93,"endTime":156.58,"body":"this episode, I also want us to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":151.93,"endTime":156.58,"body":"dive into another piece, another"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":156.58,"endTime":162.31,"body":"facet of this butterfly moment."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":156.58,"endTime":162.31,"body":"And that's really about creating"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":162.31,"endTime":166.9,"body":"happiness in our lives. But"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":162.31,"endTime":166.9,"body":"before we start diving deeper"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":166.9,"endTime":170.98,"body":"into how to create that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":166.9,"endTime":170.98,"body":"butterfly moment, you know, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":170.98,"endTime":173.08,"body":"love talking about our obsession"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":173.06,"endTime":173.354,"body":"Me Too"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":173.354,"endTime":210.89600000000002,"body":"Totally. Now, it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":173.354,"endTime":210.89600000000002,"body":"just goes by taking not taking"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":175.83,"endTime":178.41,"body":"So why don't I go"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":175.83,"endTime":178.41,"body":"ahead and jump off on this one?"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":178.56,"endTime":180.81,"body":"Tish, what do"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":178.56,"endTime":180.81,"body":"you got for me this week?"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":211.695,"endTime":241.25,"body":"yourself so seriously in life. Right?"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":241.34,"endTime":245.09,"body":"Yeah. And"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":241.34,"endTime":245.09,"body":"really, you know, do you get to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":245.09,"endTime":248.42000000000002,"body":"see at the thrift store what"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":245.09,"endTime":248.42000000000002,"body":"your friend is buying for you."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":248.69,"endTime":252.35,"body":"Are you trying it on? Or is it a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":248.69,"endTime":252.35,"body":"surprise bag that that you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":252.4,"endTime":256.63,"body":"it's a surprise bag."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":252.4,"endTime":256.63,"body":"So you should have like, whether"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":256.63,"endTime":260.77,"body":"it's you know, some of them do"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":256.63,"endTime":260.77,"body":"like shoes and everything. Wow,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":260.8,"endTime":264.64,"body":"you'd have everybody's sizes and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":260.8,"endTime":264.64,"body":"be able to do that. But you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":264.64,"endTime":268.36,"body":"know, I'm going to be peeking"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":264.64,"endTime":268.36,"body":"over the rack seeing like what"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":269.21,"endTime":272.99,"body":"that sounds"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":269.21,"endTime":272.99,"body":"like a blast. So you need to let"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":272.99,"endTime":275.9,"body":"me know when the thrift store a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":272.99,"endTime":275.9,"body":"party is because I'll be flying"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":275.9,"endTime":276.68,"body":"in for that."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":276.95,"endTime":278.54,"body":"Yeah, and you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":276.95,"endTime":278.54,"body":"there's gonna be lots of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":278.54,"endTime":280.04,"body":"pictures that that one Oh,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":280.07,"endTime":281.93,"body":"I know. Well,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":280.07,"endTime":281.93,"body":"maybe you can wear your white"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":281.93,"endTime":283.94,"body":"cowboy boots with the thrift"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":281.93,"endTime":283.94,"body":"store party."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":285.56,"endTime":288.05,"body":"I love those boots."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":285.56,"endTime":288.05,"body":"I'm still I'm still obsessing"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":288.05,"endTime":291.56,"body":"about those. I know you are. I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":288.05,"endTime":291.56,"body":"know. Ellen, what about you?"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":291.56,"endTime":293.21,"body":"What is your obsession this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":291.56,"endTime":293.21,"body":"week?"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":293.67,"endTime":296.22,"body":"All right,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":293.67,"endTime":296.22,"body":"well, you know I like to change"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":296.22,"endTime":300.33,"body":"my purse or my handbag every"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":296.22,"endTime":300.33,"body":"season. And even though it's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":300.33,"endTime":304.17,"body":"still kind of warm here in"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":300.33,"endTime":304.17,"body":"California, I decided to go from"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":304.2,"endTime":307.56,"body":"a really big tote that I had"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":304.2,"endTime":307.56,"body":"like you know where you could"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":307.56,"endTime":311.07,"body":"fit a computer you can fit"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":307.56,"endTime":311.07,"body":"everything. I want to streamline"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":311.07,"endTime":316.23,"body":"for the fall. But when I was at"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":311.07,"endTime":316.23,"body":"our Trinity as sister tribe"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":316.23,"endTime":320.43,"body":"member Kathy's house this summer"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":316.23,"endTime":320.43,"body":"she had the cutest bag. It was"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":320.43,"endTime":324.33,"body":"by this company noon day. And"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":320.43,"endTime":324.33,"body":"it's one of those companies"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":324.33,"endTime":328.92,"body":"where somebody hosts a party."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":324.33,"endTime":328.92,"body":"And it is just like a beautiful"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":328.92,"endTime":333.48,"body":"leather, big wallet. And it's a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":328.92,"endTime":333.48,"body":"crossbody. But you can get one"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":333.48,"endTime":337.56,"body":"of those cute striped straps,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":333.48,"endTime":337.56,"body":"like you can change out the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":337.56,"endTime":338.79,"body":"straps on it."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":338.82,"endTime":341.19,"body":"Don't They refer to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":338.82,"endTime":341.19,"body":"those as guitar straps,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":340.56,"endTime":345.51,"body":"Guitar straps,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":340.56,"endTime":345.51,"body":"exactly. But you can fit like a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":345.51,"endTime":352.68,"body":"couple cards, some cash, your"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":345.51,"endTime":352.68,"body":"Silver City pink, and your. So I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":352.68,"endTime":356.28000000000003,"body":"got one and I am just so"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":352.68,"endTime":356.28000000000003,"body":"obsessed with it. It's like"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":356.28000000000003,"endTime":361.17,"body":"light, you know, I'm not I'm not"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":356.28000000000003,"endTime":361.17,"body":"bogged down by the big tote with"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":361.2,"endTime":364.35,"body":"everything falling to the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":361.2,"endTime":364.35,"body":"bottom. So I'll post a picture"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":364.35,"endTime":369.12,"body":"of it. It's super cute. It's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":364.35,"endTime":369.12,"body":"called the rustic leather wallet"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":369.12,"endTime":372.03000000000003,"body":"bag. And I am in love."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":372.86,"endTime":375.23,"body":"You know, I love"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":372.86,"endTime":375.23,"body":"those guitar straps sit there"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":375.23,"endTime":379.94,"body":"using it can just give a little"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":375.23,"endTime":379.94,"body":"personality over you know, to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":379.94,"endTime":383.12,"body":"your purse in your outfit and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":379.94,"endTime":383.12,"body":"stuff like that. And it's that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":383.12,"endTime":388.73,"body":"little nod of you know, retro"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":383.12,"endTime":388.73,"body":"hippie chic or whatever. I love"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":388.73,"endTime":390.77,"body":"it that definitely my vibes"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":390.56,"endTime":394.97,"body":"No my strap."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":390.56,"endTime":394.97,"body":"No, my strap is blue and black"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":394.97,"endTime":398.66,"body":"and white. So it's like a like a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":394.97,"endTime":398.66,"body":"royal blue. So it really does"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":398.66,"endTime":404.99,"body":"make it pop, you know. So,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":398.66,"endTime":404.99,"body":"alright, enough about our"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":404.99,"endTime":408.68,"body":"obsessions. Because this is a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":404.99,"endTime":408.68,"body":"topic I can't wait for us to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":409.01,"endTime":413.69,"body":"jump right back into, you know,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":409.01,"endTime":413.69,"body":"Tish in the first episode, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":413.69,"endTime":418.49,"body":"talked about the plan you'd been"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":413.69,"endTime":418.49,"body":"working on for a long time on a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":418.49,"endTime":422.21,"body":"very specific plan for your"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":418.49,"endTime":422.21,"body":"butterfly moment to be ready"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":422.21,"endTime":425.54,"body":"when you became an empty nester."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":422.21,"endTime":425.54,"body":"And I think this is because"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":425.57,"endTime":429.14,"body":"unlike some of us, you've been"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":425.57,"endTime":429.14,"body":"mothering for a really long time"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":429.14,"endTime":433.01,"body":"you have a longtime age"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":429.14,"endTime":433.01,"body":"difference. I don't want to say"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":433.01,"endTime":436.55,"body":"the years but bigger age"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":433.01,"endTime":436.55,"body":"difference with your four kids"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":436.55,"endTime":441.05,"body":"and a lot of us. And now you're"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":436.55,"endTime":441.05,"body":"two months into this, this new"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":441.05,"endTime":444.92,"body":"phase. And I really just wanted"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":441.05,"endTime":444.92,"body":"to check in with you and see how"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":444.92,"endTime":450.35,"body":"well the plan is going to the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":444.92,"endTime":450.35,"body":"plan make it easier and didn't"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":450.35,"endTime":451.82,"body":"really make you ready for it."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":452.99,"endTime":457.64,"body":"You know what, what"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":452.99,"endTime":457.64,"body":"all my planning is really paying"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":457.64,"endTime":458.21,"body":"off."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":458.3,"endTime":459.47,"body":"All right,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":459.52,"endTime":464.8,"body":"I am telling you, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":459.52,"endTime":464.8,"body":"really was ready. So, you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":464.8,"endTime":467.95,"body":"again, anyone who hadn't heard"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":464.8,"endTime":467.95,"body":"our first episode, definitely go"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":467.95,"endTime":470.08,"body":"back and listen, because it's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":467.95,"endTime":470.08,"body":"definitely worth the listen."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":470.62,"endTime":477.16,"body":"But, you know, it was this idea"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":470.62,"endTime":477.16,"body":"that after my second youngest"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":477.34,"endTime":480.55,"body":"was going off to college, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":477.34,"endTime":480.55,"body":"thought, oh, when the youngest"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":480.55,"endTime":484.6,"body":"goes, I need to be ready to be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":480.55,"endTime":484.6,"body":"an empty nester. And so that's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":484.6,"endTime":488.02,"body":"where the plan started coming"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":484.6,"endTime":488.02,"body":"in. So I guess it's been about a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":488.02,"endTime":491.56,"body":"year and a half now that I've"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":488.02,"endTime":491.56,"body":"really been, you know, thinking"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":491.56,"endTime":495.67,"body":"about it working on it. And I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":491.56,"endTime":495.67,"body":"wanted to make sure that my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":495.67,"endTime":499.42,"body":"transition was going to be a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":495.67,"endTime":499.42,"body":"smooth one. So now don't get me"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":499.42,"endTime":503.29,"body":"wrong. I love having my kids"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":499.42,"endTime":503.29,"body":"around. There is nothing like a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":503.29,"endTime":507.85,"body":"full house of kids. It keeps"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":503.29,"endTime":507.85,"body":"life interesting. I loved when"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":507.85,"endTime":512.17,"body":"my kids had their friends over."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":507.85,"endTime":512.17,"body":"And so all that was very joyful."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":512.17,"endTime":520.99,"body":"I don't regret any of that. But"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":512.17,"endTime":520.99,"body":"34 years of being a mom. Focus,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":521.0799999999999,"endTime":525.5799999999999,"body":"right. And so with this new"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":521.0799999999999,"endTime":525.5799999999999,"body":"chapter, it's not about"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":525.5799999999999,"endTime":529.03,"body":"forgetting to be a mom, but it's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":525.5799999999999,"endTime":529.03,"body":"more about remembering to be an"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":529.03,"endTime":534.64,"body":"individual. So, um, so moving on"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":529.03,"endTime":534.64,"body":"to the next chapter in my life,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":534.67,"endTime":539.89,"body":"and I wanted to really focus on"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":534.67,"endTime":539.89,"body":"being healthy and happy. So for"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":539.89,"endTime":543.55,"body":"that year and a half, I started"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":539.89,"endTime":543.55,"body":"putting this plan in place. So I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":543.55,"endTime":547.81,"body":"picked up two new hobbies,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":543.55,"endTime":547.81,"body":"beekeeping and pickleball."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":547.8699999999999,"endTime":552.52,"body":"Right. And we started this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":547.8699999999999,"endTime":552.52,"body":"amazing podcast. Yeah, that has"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":552.52,"endTime":556.0899999999999,"body":"really been so fulfilling, you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":552.52,"endTime":556.0899999999999,"body":"know, works always busy, but"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":556.0899999999999,"endTime":560.9799999999999,"body":"work always is you know. So I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":556.0899999999999,"endTime":560.9799999999999,"body":"have to tell you, I feel like my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":560.9799999999999,"endTime":566.3199999999999,"body":"life is full. And Ellen, I hope"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":560.9799999999999,"endTime":566.3199999999999,"body":"you're taking notes because"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":566.3499999999999,"endTime":570.4599999999999,"body":"you're going to in less than a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":566.3499999999999,"endTime":570.4599999999999,"body":"year and in less than a year."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":570.67,"endTime":574.3599999999999,"body":"That is going to be you and I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":570.67,"endTime":574.3599999999999,"body":"want your transition to be as"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":574.3599999999999,"endTime":576.1899999999999,"body":"smooth and joyful as mine."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":575.56,"endTime":581.9499999999999,"body":"Well, I'm so"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":575.56,"endTime":581.9499999999999,"body":"delighted to hear that it's been"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":581.9499999999999,"endTime":587.05,"body":"going well. And you know, for"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":581.9499999999999,"endTime":587.05,"body":"me, it is coming up I have less"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":587.05,"endTime":591.88,"body":"than a year on it right as we"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":587.05,"endTime":591.88,"body":"speak. And you know, the thing I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":591.88,"endTime":597.25,"body":"worry about, you know, becoming"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":591.88,"endTime":597.25,"body":"an empty nester is just really"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":597.25,"endTime":602.3499999999999,"body":"being home alone. Like you. I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":597.25,"endTime":602.3499999999999,"body":"love the hubbub of lots of kids"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":602.3499999999999,"endTime":606.04,"body":"in the house and kids friends"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":602.3499999999999,"endTime":606.04,"body":"and something always happening"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":606.04,"endTime":611.8,"body":"or a sporting event to go to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":606.04,"endTime":611.8,"body":"baseball, crew volleyball, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":611.8,"endTime":616.8399999999999,"body":"know, and so, I think it's going"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":611.8,"endTime":616.8399999999999,"body":"to be really difficult for me to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":616.9599999999999,"endTime":622.39,"body":"have a schedule that I run"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":616.9599999999999,"endTime":622.39,"body":"myself and put things on it."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":622.39,"endTime":626.56,"body":"Right. So that's what I worry"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":622.39,"endTime":626.56,"body":"about. Did you feel lonely being"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":626.56,"endTime":627.7299999999999,"body":"home alone? Tish?"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":628.8489999999999,"endTime":631.2489999999999,"body":"Well, I mean, I have"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":628.8489999999999,"endTime":631.2489999999999,"body":"to tell you, between the new"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":631.2489999999999,"endTime":636.439,"body":"hobbies, our podcast, my job, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":631.2489999999999,"endTime":636.439,"body":"spend lots of time, you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":636.4689999999999,"endTime":640.549,"body":"doing social things with friends"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":636.4689999999999,"endTime":640.549,"body":"and stuff. I really do feel"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":640.549,"endTime":644.2689999999999,"body":"content. You know, I've been"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":640.549,"endTime":644.2689999999999,"body":"working on a lot of different"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":644.2689999999999,"endTime":648.2289999999999,"body":"projects at home and doing these"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":644.2689999999999,"endTime":648.2289999999999,"body":"purges and organizations and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":648.2289999999999,"endTime":653.539,"body":"stuff like that. And I even let"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":648.2289999999999,"endTime":653.539,"body":"one of our episodes about our"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":653.539,"endTime":657.799,"body":"fall reads inspire me to pick up"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":653.539,"endTime":657.799,"body":"a book because I don't cut a lot"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":657.799,"endTime":661.909,"body":"of time for myself with reading"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":657.799,"endTime":661.909,"body":"that I should. So you know, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":661.909,"endTime":670.039,"body":"started the book. But also, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":661.909,"endTime":670.039,"body":"wasn't just randomly trying to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":670.039,"endTime":673.699,"body":"fill in every hour, I wasn't"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":670.039,"endTime":673.699,"body":"just trying to do anything and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":673.699,"endTime":678.1089999999999,"body":"everything. Okay. Just so I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":673.699,"endTime":678.1089999999999,"body":"wasn't going to be alone. Right"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":678.1389999999999,"endTime":682.7289999999999,"body":"now, I'm been really deliberate"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":678.1389999999999,"endTime":682.7289999999999,"body":"about pursuing things that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":682.7289999999999,"endTime":687.649,"body":"really bring me joy. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":682.7289999999999,"endTime":687.649,"body":"spending some quiet time with"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":687.649,"endTime":694.309,"body":"myself has been part of it. So I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":687.649,"endTime":694.309,"body":"think I really owe this positive"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":694.3389999999999,"endTime":699.6189999999999,"body":"outlook to one planning ahead"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":694.3389999999999,"endTime":699.6189999999999,"body":"for this time, and not waiting"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":699.649,"endTime":704.5089999999999,"body":"for my youngest to be gone"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":699.649,"endTime":704.5089999999999,"body":"before I started. But, you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":704.5089999999999,"endTime":710.4789999999999,"body":"this whole idea of being"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":704.5089999999999,"endTime":710.4789999999999,"body":"comfortable in your own skin by"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":710.4789999999999,"endTime":715.279,"body":"yourself, right? It's, it's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":710.4789999999999,"endTime":715.279,"body":"something I think when you when"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":715.279,"endTime":719.8689999999999,"body":"you're a busy mom and a busy"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":715.279,"endTime":719.8689999999999,"body":"life and a busy house, that it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":719.8689999999999,"endTime":725.5989999999999,"body":"seems like it would be a vacuum."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":719.8689999999999,"endTime":725.5989999999999,"body":"Yeah. But you know what, if"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":725.5989999999999,"endTime":729.919,"body":"you're ready, and if you have"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":725.5989999999999,"endTime":729.919,"body":"things that fulfill you, during"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":729.919,"endTime":733.1289999999999,"body":"your week, you know what you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":729.919,"endTime":733.1289999999999,"body":"really do enjoy those quiet"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":733.1289999999999,"endTime":733.669,"body":"times."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":734.78,"endTime":737.5699999999999,"body":"I really think"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":734.78,"endTime":737.5699999999999,"body":"a lot of us underestimate the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":737.5699999999999,"endTime":743.6899999999999,"body":"value of recharging, and being"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":737.5699999999999,"endTime":743.6899999999999,"body":"still and being quiet. So I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":743.7199999999999,"endTime":746.2099999999999,"body":"think that's something I'm"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":743.7199999999999,"endTime":746.2099999999999,"body":"really hearing from you right"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":746.2099999999999,"endTime":751.28,"body":"now. And that this is just not"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":746.2099999999999,"endTime":751.28,"body":"not about keeping busy and doing"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":751.28,"endTime":753.1099999999999,"body":"as many things as you can,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":751.28,"endTime":753.1099999999999,"body":"right?"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":753.5,"endTime":755.81,"body":"You actually know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":753.5,"endTime":755.81,"body":"it's not about just keeping"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":755.81,"endTime":760.25,"body":"busy. Yes, being active and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":755.81,"endTime":760.25,"body":"busy, are part of it. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":760.25,"endTime":765.17,"body":"they're an important part. But I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":760.25,"endTime":765.17,"body":"also realize that I've really"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":765.17,"endTime":769.9699999999999,"body":"been changing my Outlook, my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":765.17,"endTime":769.9699999999999,"body":"outlook about myself, my outlook"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":769.9699999999999,"endTime":774.14,"body":"about what's important in my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":769.9699999999999,"endTime":774.14,"body":"life. And I know this may sound"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":774.14,"endTime":779.51,"body":"very simplistic, but I've been"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":774.14,"endTime":779.51,"body":"focusing on finding happiness in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":779.51,"endTime":786.65,"body":"my mid life. So I was reading"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":779.51,"endTime":786.65,"body":"this article from the AI NLP"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":786.65,"endTime":793.13,"body":"Center team. Okay. And it's this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":786.65,"endTime":793.13,"body":"couple in 2011, that had written"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":793.16,"endTime":797.66,"body":"or developed this whole training"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":793.16,"endTime":797.66,"body":"program to help people focus on"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":797.6899999999999,"endTime":804.8299999999999,"body":"10 things that mid lifers can do"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":797.6899999999999,"endTime":804.8299999999999,"body":"to find happiness. Wow. So"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":804.8599999999999,"endTime":809.9599999999999,"body":"Ellen, I swear, if you follow"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":804.8599999999999,"endTime":809.9599999999999,"body":"this list, and work each of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":809.9599999999999,"endTime":815.39,"body":"these 10 items, you can't help"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":809.9599999999999,"endTime":815.39,"body":"but find more happiness in your"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":815.39,"endTime":815.8399999999999,"body":"life."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":816.5889999999999,"endTime":819.949,"body":"Well, I'm"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":816.5889999999999,"endTime":819.949,"body":"really interested in these. And"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":820.069,"endTime":823.669,"body":"I see that it's not just about"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":820.069,"endTime":823.669,"body":"being busy, but making sure that"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":823.669,"endTime":827.809,"body":"we have this right mindset, this"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":823.669,"endTime":827.809,"body":"kind of the mindset, middle age"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":827.8389999999999,"endTime":832.6389999999999,"body":"mindset of happiness. It sounds"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":827.8389999999999,"endTime":832.6389999999999,"body":"like a next kind of a Netflix"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":832.6389999999999,"endTime":837.199,"body":"show to me a little bit with"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":832.6389999999999,"endTime":837.199,"body":"Marie Kondo, where she helps"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":837.199,"endTime":842.4789999999999,"body":"people like declutter their"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":837.199,"endTime":842.4789999999999,"body":"homes, and organize but you have"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":842.4789999999999,"endTime":846.1089999999999,"body":"to hold on the items and ask on"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":842.4789999999999,"endTime":846.1089999999999,"body":"each one, does this bring you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":846.1089999999999,"endTime":849.4689999999999,"body":"joy? And you only keep the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":846.1089999999999,"endTime":849.4689999999999,"body":"things right, the Marie Kondo,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":849.4689999999999,"endTime":853.6389999999999,"body":"what gives you joy? So in a way,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":849.4689999999999,"endTime":853.6389999999999,"body":"it sounds like that, right?"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":854.18,"endTime":857.5999999999999,"body":"Yeah, it's I want"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":854.18,"endTime":857.5999999999999,"body":"everyone to go through and take"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":857.63,"endTime":861.6199999999999,"body":"inventory, about the things that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":857.63,"endTime":861.6199999999999,"body":"you spend time with in your"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":861.6199999999999,"endTime":865.8199999999999,"body":"life. And I want you to hold"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":861.6199999999999,"endTime":865.8199999999999,"body":"that thing in your hand and ask"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":865.8199999999999,"endTime":870.8299999999999,"body":"yourself, Does this bring me"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":865.8199999999999,"endTime":870.8299999999999,"body":"joy? You are spending hours and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":870.8299999999999,"endTime":874.5799999999999,"body":"hours doing things? And does"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":870.8299999999999,"endTime":874.5799999999999,"body":"this bring you joy? And it's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":874.5799999999999,"endTime":879.65,"body":"time to declutter the things in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":874.5799999999999,"endTime":879.65,"body":"our lives, that don't bring us"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":879.65,"endTime":884.2399999999999,"body":"that joy and happiness. So I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":879.65,"endTime":884.2399999999999,"body":"want us to go through this list"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":884.2399999999999,"endTime":889.43,"body":"of 10 things, and that Midsters"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":884.2399999999999,"endTime":889.43,"body":"need to help find happiness, and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":889.43,"endTime":893.9899999999999,"body":"just really think about making"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":889.43,"endTime":893.9899999999999,"body":"this a jumpstart to this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":893.9899999999999,"endTime":894.8299999999999,"body":"process."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":895.4599999999999,"endTime":898.2199999999999,"body":"Oh, great. All"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":895.4599999999999,"endTime":898.2199999999999,"body":"right, kick us off here. Tish."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":898.64,"endTime":903.0799999999999,"body":"Okay, so the first"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":898.64,"endTime":903.0799999999999,"body":"one is rethink winning. So in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":903.1099999999999,"endTime":907.0699999999999,"body":"early childhood, they talk about"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":903.1099999999999,"endTime":907.0699999999999,"body":"being competitive served us"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":907.0699999999999,"endTime":911.15,"body":"well, right. Well, doing your"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":907.0699999999999,"endTime":911.15,"body":"best will always be important."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":911.4799999999999,"endTime":914.4499999999999,"body":"And I'm not going to knock that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":911.4799999999999,"endTime":914.4499999999999,"body":"you know, we all kind of strive"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":915.05,"endTime":919.52,"body":"but maybe it's time for us to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":915.05,"endTime":919.52,"body":"let go of That attitude that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":919.52,"endTime":924.29,"body":"says, You must be better than"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":919.52,"endTime":924.29,"body":"others and win at all cost"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":924.3199999999999,"endTime":925.0999999999999,"body":"mindset."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":926.149,"endTime":930.1389999999999,"body":"Wow, you know,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":926.149,"endTime":930.1389999999999,"body":"I think I have really redefined"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":930.1389999999999,"endTime":935.6289999999999,"body":"to that. And what's important,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":930.1389999999999,"endTime":935.6289999999999,"body":"and it's not about winning or"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":935.6289999999999,"endTime":940.7289999999999,"body":"having more, or beating others,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":935.6289999999999,"endTime":940.7289999999999,"body":"you know, it might sound kind of"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":940.7289999999999,"endTime":944.689,"body":"corny, but I know in our dogs"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":940.7289999999999,"endTime":944.689,"body":"episode, I said that thing for"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":944.689,"endTime":949.5189999999999,"body":"me was enjoying the journey,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":944.689,"endTime":949.5189999999999,"body":"like really enjoying the journey"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":949.6389999999999,"endTime":952.5189999999999,"body":"and being present is the most"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":949.6389999999999,"endTime":952.5189999999999,"body":"important."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":953.39,"endTime":956.42,"body":"Yeah, when I wrote"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":953.39,"endTime":956.42,"body":"about this number one thing I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":956.42,"endTime":961.4899999999999,"body":"thought, wow, I said, you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":956.42,"endTime":961.4899999999999,"body":"that when at all cost mentality"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":961.76,"endTime":967.13,"body":"that a lot of driven people"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":961.76,"endTime":967.13,"body":"have, right, is just so off"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":967.16,"endTime":972.56,"body":"putting to me now. And I tend to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":967.16,"endTime":972.56,"body":"want to be around people who are"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":972.5899999999999,"endTime":979.9699999999999,"body":"invested in more of a, we all"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":972.5899999999999,"endTime":979.9699999999999,"body":"can succeed mind set, you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":979.9699999999999,"endTime":984.8299999999999,"body":"I prefer, I'm more of a team"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":979.9699999999999,"endTime":984.8299999999999,"body":"player I prefer working together"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":985.16,"endTime":989.42,"body":"and mentally kind of working"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":985.16,"endTime":989.42,"body":"towards everyone can be better,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":989.63,"endTime":993.17,"body":"you know, not let me beat you."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":989.63,"endTime":993.17,"body":"Let me beat you. I'm the winner"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":993.17,"endTime":998.4499999999999,"body":"on the top. Everyone's below me."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":993.17,"endTime":998.4499999999999,"body":"But this idea of let's uplift"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":998.4799999999999,"endTime":999.7099999999999,"body":"all of us together,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1000.3699999999999,"endTime":1003.6999999999999,"body":"right? The kind"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1000.3699999999999,"endTime":1003.6999999999999,"body":"of collective we Right? Yes,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1003.7299999999999,"endTime":1007.8399999999999,"body":"then we win. I'm right there"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1003.7299999999999,"endTime":1007.8399999999999,"body":"with you. Yeah. Okay. Well,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1008.16,"endTime":1011.2199999999999,"body":"that was a real"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1008.16,"endTime":1011.2199999999999,"body":"positive way to start off, you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1011.2199999999999,"endTime":1015.81,"body":"know, rethink winning. Act."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1011.2199999999999,"endTime":1015.81,"body":"Number two was stop the"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1015.81,"endTime":1019.65,"body":"comparisons. Obviously,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1015.81,"endTime":1019.65,"body":"comparing yourself to other"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1019.65,"endTime":1023.79,"body":"people is a common habit of a 20"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1019.65,"endTime":1023.79,"body":"year old. Okay, so you're gonna"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1023.79,"endTime":1026.85,"body":"hear 20 year olds talk about"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1023.79,"endTime":1026.85,"body":"they have, you know, very"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1026.85,"endTime":1030.24,"body":"similar type of friends and, and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1026.85,"endTime":1030.24,"body":"they're so worried about what"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1030.24,"endTime":1033.42,"body":"their places in the world,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1030.24,"endTime":1033.42,"body":"right, I think this stop"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1033.42,"endTime":1036.96,"body":"comparing yourself to other"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1033.42,"endTime":1036.96,"body":"people, is something that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1037.02,"endTime":1039.96,"body":"really, we need to embrace at"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1037.02,"endTime":1039.96,"body":"midlife."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1040.81,"endTime":1044.26,"body":"You know, I'm"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1040.81,"endTime":1044.26,"body":"100% agree, and don't you think"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1044.26,"endTime":1048.28,"body":"as we develop more self"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1044.26,"endTime":1048.28,"body":"confidence as we're in in mid"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1048.28,"endTime":1052.81,"body":"life, most of us are less"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1048.28,"endTime":1052.81,"body":"inclined to comparing ourselves"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1052.81,"endTime":1053.71,"body":"to others."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1054.85,"endTime":1057.46,"body":"Oh, yeah, I couldn't"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1054.85,"endTime":1057.46,"body":"agree more, I think that we"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1057.46,"endTime":1062.86,"body":"stopped comparing ourselves. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1057.46,"endTime":1062.86,"body":"we're just worrying about being"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1062.86,"endTime":1069.97,"body":"happier in our own skin. You"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1062.86,"endTime":1069.97,"body":"know, I, I just want to get to a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1069.97,"endTime":1074.08,"body":"point where I'm just genuinely"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1069.97,"endTime":1074.08,"body":"happier for what others are"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1074.08,"endTime":1077.5,"body":"accomplishing. And not so you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1074.08,"endTime":1077.5,"body":"know, worried about comparing"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1077.5,"endTime":1080.74,"body":"what does that mean? Does it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1077.5,"endTime":1080.74,"body":"make me look good or whatever, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1080.74,"endTime":1084.6699999999998,"body":"just want to worry about doing a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1080.74,"endTime":1084.6699999999998,"body":"little bit better than I than I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1084.6699999999998,"endTime":1089.23,"body":"did yesterday, not worrying"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1084.6699999999998,"endTime":1089.23,"body":"about how it compares to my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1089.23,"endTime":1094.21,"body":"girlfriends. But, you know, just"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1089.23,"endTime":1094.21,"body":"worrying about kind of being in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1094.21,"endTime":1098.86,"body":"that race by with yourself to do"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1094.21,"endTime":1098.86,"body":"a little better than yesterday."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1099.22,"endTime":1102.49,"body":"Right It's not"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1099.22,"endTime":1102.49,"body":"about others, it's about you,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1102.55,"endTime":1106.9299999999998,"body":"and your mindset, and you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1102.55,"endTime":1106.9299999999998,"body":"feeling like you're moving"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1106.9299999999998,"endTime":1109.33,"body":"forward, I'm completely there"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1106.9299999999998,"endTime":1109.33,"body":"with you."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1110.29,"endTime":1114.79,"body":"Now, number three,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1110.29,"endTime":1114.79,"body":"is go for self expression, and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1114.79,"endTime":1118.3899999999999,"body":"not approval. And I think those"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1114.79,"endTime":1118.3899999999999,"body":"two kind of really go hand in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1118.3899999999999,"endTime":1123.85,"body":"hand. So of course, youngsters"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1118.3899999999999,"endTime":1123.85,"body":"don't like to admit it. And I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1123.85,"endTime":1127.24,"body":"know personally, I didn't"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1123.85,"endTime":1127.24,"body":"either, but they crave"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1127.24,"endTime":1132.01,"body":"recognition and approval, and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1127.24,"endTime":1132.01,"body":"not having the life experiences"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1132.01,"endTime":1135.82,"body":"that you you have obtained by"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1132.01,"endTime":1135.82,"body":"the time you're at midlife. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1135.82,"endTime":1140.71,"body":"that personal depth of you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1135.82,"endTime":1140.71,"body":"what is possible. 20 years"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1140.71,"endTime":1145.99,"body":"later, young adults tend to look"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1140.71,"endTime":1145.99,"body":"outside themselves to know that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1145.99,"endTime":1152.32,"body":"they are okay. And midlife"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1145.99,"endTime":1152.32,"body":"returning that, that, you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1152.4099999999999,"endTime":1154.09,"body":"microscope inward."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1153.56,"endTime":1155.57,"body":"Yeah, we sure"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1153.56,"endTime":1155.57,"body":"are and I really like this one."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1155.57,"endTime":1157.1,"body":"I enjoy sharing with other"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1155.57,"endTime":1157.1,"body":"people what I'm doing. But I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1157.1,"endTime":1167.12,"body":"really I think as we hit 50, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1157.1,"endTime":1167.12,"body":"know, don't really feel like I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1167.12,"endTime":1171.56,"body":"need anyone's approval anymore."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1167.12,"endTime":1171.56,"body":"And I noticed what I've stopped"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1171.56,"endTime":1176.12,"body":"doing is asking people all the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1171.56,"endTime":1176.12,"body":"time, what do you think? What do"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1176.12,"endTime":1179.1499999999999,"body":"you think about this? Should I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1176.12,"endTime":1179.1499999999999,"body":"do that? You know, because"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1179.6,"endTime":1183.2,"body":"there's just a more of a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1179.6,"endTime":1183.2,"body":"confidence of knowing what's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1183.2,"endTime":1184.25,"body":"right for me."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1185.32,"endTime":1189.61,"body":"I like that. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1185.32,"endTime":1189.61,"body":"And it's it's not needing others"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1189.61,"endTime":1194.62,"body":"to approve of our choices. I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1189.61,"endTime":1194.62,"body":"think other women around us. If"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1194.62,"endTime":1199.72,"body":"we're not judging them, okay,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1194.62,"endTime":1199.72,"body":"then they may not feel the need"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1199.72,"endTime":1203.71,"body":"to judge us right. So we can"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1199.72,"endTime":1203.71,"body":"share without all that judgment."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1204.58,"endTime":1208.51,"body":"I think we could be more"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1204.58,"endTime":1208.51,"body":"creative, be more imaginative"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1208.51,"endTime":1214.0,"body":"think out of the box. When we"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1208.51,"endTime":1214.0,"body":"develop that safe environment to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1214.0,"endTime":1215.26,"body":"share without judgment."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1216.0,"endTime":1219.36,"body":"I just have to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1216.0,"endTime":1219.36,"body":"add here this whole idea I know"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1219.36,"endTime":1222.6,"body":"you and I have talked about this"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1219.36,"endTime":1222.6,"body":"is that everyone's on their own"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1222.6,"endTime":1228.6299999999999,"body":"journey. And you just need to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1222.6,"endTime":1228.6299999999999,"body":"accept their journey. And that"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1228.6299999999999,"endTime":1233.3999999999999,"body":"comes with no judgement without"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1228.6299999999999,"endTime":1233.3999999999999,"body":"judgement, right and, and so I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1233.3999999999999,"endTime":1234.8999999999999,"body":"think that's really important."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1235.9289999999999,"endTime":1241.599,"body":"So number four,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1235.9289999999999,"endTime":1241.599,"body":"discover your values. So the key"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1241.629,"endTime":1246.339,"body":"to being fulfilled and effective"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1241.629,"endTime":1246.339,"body":"at any age in life is to know"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1246.339,"endTime":1250.389,"body":"how to live your personal"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1246.339,"endTime":1250.389,"body":"values. This is particularly"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1250.389,"endTime":1254.469,"body":"important at midlife, because"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1250.389,"endTime":1254.469,"body":"this is when you are most"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1254.469,"endTime":1259.989,"body":"capable of truly embracing your"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1254.469,"endTime":1259.989,"body":"values. So they pose this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1259.989,"endTime":1266.9489999999998,"body":"question, what's most important"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1259.989,"endTime":1266.9489999999998,"body":"to you in life? And so this deep"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1266.979,"endTime":1272.499,"body":"answer to this question really"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1266.979,"endTime":1272.499,"body":"will reveal what your values"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1272.499,"endTime":1276.549,"body":"are. So this is they want this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1272.499,"endTime":1276.549,"body":"idea. They want you to pose this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1276.549,"endTime":1280.359,"body":"to yourself, what is most"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1276.549,"endTime":1280.359,"body":"important to you in life? And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1280.359,"endTime":1283.6589999999999,"body":"that's going to tell you where"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1280.359,"endTime":1283.6589999999999,"body":"your value system is?"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1283.6589999999999,"endTime":1286.719,"body":"And that's a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1283.6589999999999,"endTime":1286.719,"body":"great question. And we should"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1286.749,"endTime":1290.799,"body":"all be asking ourselves that,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1286.749,"endTime":1290.799,"body":"that all the time, and you know,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1291.219,"endTime":1294.609,"body":"another task, it's like another"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1291.219,"endTime":1294.609,"body":"one that makes us look inward,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1294.639,"endTime":1299.049,"body":"really, to sort out what we"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1294.639,"endTime":1299.049,"body":"believe in from what we just"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1299.079,"endTime":1302.739,"body":"might be doing from habit or"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1299.079,"endTime":1302.739,"body":"obligation. You know, a great"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1302.739,"endTime":1305.649,"body":"example of this is church"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1302.739,"endTime":1305.649,"body":"growing up, we went to church"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1305.6789999999999,"endTime":1308.979,"body":"every Sunday, you know, as a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1305.6789999999999,"endTime":1308.979,"body":"young person, either your"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1308.979,"endTime":1313.479,"body":"parents brought you or, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1308.979,"endTime":1313.479,"body":"know, it was a habit or how we"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1313.479,"endTime":1318.1589999999999,"body":"were raised. But as adults, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1313.479,"endTime":1318.1589999999999,"body":"know, we need to question why"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1318.1589999999999,"endTime":1322.119,"body":"it's important, or if it's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1318.1589999999999,"endTime":1322.119,"body":"important to us, once we have"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1322.119,"endTime":1326.9189999999999,"body":"that intentional value, that"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1322.119,"endTime":1326.9189999999999,"body":"intentional value, I'm gonna say"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1326.9189999999999,"endTime":1331.119,"body":"it again, it increases our joy"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1326.9189999999999,"endTime":1331.119,"body":"in doing it, whatever it is."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1331.6699999999998,"endTime":1335.21,"body":"Oh, I absolutely"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1331.6699999999998,"endTime":1335.21,"body":"agree. You know, I always I was"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1335.21,"endTime":1338.21,"body":"always in a couple of these"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1335.21,"endTime":1338.21,"body":"groups for church, these small"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1338.21,"endTime":1342.86,"body":"Christian communities. And I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1338.21,"endTime":1342.86,"body":"always was kind of in awe. As,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1343.19,"endTime":1347.48,"body":"you know, older people in our"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1343.19,"endTime":1347.48,"body":"group, they seem to embrace"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1347.96,"endTime":1351.86,"body":"their spirituality so much"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1347.96,"endTime":1351.86,"body":"deeper than I did. And I didn't"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1351.86,"endTime":1355.82,"body":"quite understand it. And it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1351.86,"endTime":1355.82,"body":"wasn't until I read this, that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1355.82,"endTime":1360.3799999999999,"body":"it really hit me why that was"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1355.82,"endTime":1360.3799999999999,"body":"true. Because I think they were"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1360.3799999999999,"endTime":1365.3,"body":"getting in touch with why"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1360.3799999999999,"endTime":1365.3,"body":"they're religious beliefs were"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1365.3,"endTime":1369.35,"body":"of such value to them. And it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1365.3,"endTime":1369.35,"body":"really showed their joy and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1369.35,"endTime":1373.9099999999999,"body":"increase their joy of what they"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1369.35,"endTime":1373.9099999999999,"body":"believed in. But it took it took"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1373.9099999999999,"endTime":1376.7,"body":"me a long time to understand it."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1373.9099999999999,"endTime":1376.7,"body":"It really did."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1376.79,"endTime":1379.49,"body":"Yeah, that it"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1376.79,"endTime":1379.49,"body":"was deep and true, deep and"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1379.8799999999999,"endTime":1380.27,"body":"true."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1380.27,"endTime":1382.25,"body":"And you can you can"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1380.27,"endTime":1382.25,"body":"tell when someone's true in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1382.25,"endTime":1385.79,"body":"their beliefs. Yeah. Yeah. You"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1382.25,"endTime":1385.79,"body":"know, for me, I think, I think I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1385.79,"endTime":1390.74,"body":"spent the last 34 years really"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1385.79,"endTime":1390.74,"body":"focused on what values I needed"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1390.74,"endTime":1395.6,"body":"to teach to my kids. Okay. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1390.74,"endTime":1395.6,"body":"so, of course, those are an"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1395.6,"endTime":1400.37,"body":"extension of what we find"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1395.6,"endTime":1400.37,"body":"valuable, right? Yeah, this is a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1400.37,"endTime":1405.08,"body":"little bit different. This is"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1400.37,"endTime":1405.08,"body":"more about a fine tuning of our"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1405.11,"endTime":1409.73,"body":"own personal values. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1405.11,"endTime":1409.73,"body":"basically, the only thing is"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1410.3899999999999,"endTime":1415.85,"body":"that I, if I don't value it, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1410.3899999999999,"endTime":1415.85,"body":"don't want to spend time on it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1415.85,"endTime":1420.1399999999999,"body":"anymore. You know, so it's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1415.85,"endTime":1420.1399999999999,"body":"sorting out what's that truly"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1420.1399999999999,"endTime":1424.22,"body":"important thing? And where am I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1420.1399999999999,"endTime":1424.22,"body":"going to, you know, put that I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1424.22,"endTime":1428.24,"body":"think that if you're not clear"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1424.22,"endTime":1428.24,"body":"about what your values are,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1429.95,"endTime":1434.78,"body":"journaling may be a great way to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1429.95,"endTime":1434.78,"body":"start exploring that with"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1434.78,"endTime":1438.23,"body":"yourself. So again, this is"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1434.78,"endTime":1438.23,"body":"something you should seek out to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1438.23,"endTime":1441.9199999999998,"body":"someone else, and you know, have"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1438.23,"endTime":1441.9199999999998,"body":"that conversation to have it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1441.9199999999998,"endTime":1445.76,"body":"afterwards. But this is really"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1441.9199999999998,"endTime":1445.76,"body":"that inward look at what is"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1445.76,"endTime":1449.8999999999999,"body":"truly important to you. So if"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1445.76,"endTime":1449.8999999999999,"body":"you've never journaled before, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1449.8999999999999,"endTime":1454.55,"body":"would highly encourage you to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1449.8999999999999,"endTime":1454.55,"body":"really talk about in a journal"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1454.55,"endTime":1458.78,"body":"to yourself, you know, what's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1454.55,"endTime":1458.78,"body":"important in your life? And what"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1458.78,"endTime":1461.84,"body":"are those values that surround"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1458.78,"endTime":1461.84,"body":"it might be a great way to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1461.84,"endTime":1462.29,"body":"start."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1463.21,"endTime":1465.8799999999999,"body":"It sounds like"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1463.21,"endTime":1465.8799999999999,"body":"a great way to start and, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1465.8799999999999,"endTime":1469.36,"body":"know, when you're, you're at"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1465.8799999999999,"endTime":1469.36,"body":"this stage, this butterfly"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1469.36,"endTime":1473.8,"body":"moment, you have a little bit"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1469.36,"endTime":1473.8,"body":"more mindshare to put towards"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1473.8,"endTime":1477.85,"body":"these things, and to really dig"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1473.8,"endTime":1477.85,"body":"deep so I think I'll be getting"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1477.85,"endTime":1478.54,"body":"a journal."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1479.1689999999999,"endTime":1482.829,"body":"Okay, that sounds"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1479.1689999999999,"endTime":1482.829,"body":"good. I've journaled many times"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1482.829,"endTime":1485.7089999999998,"body":"over the in the past and I think"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1482.829,"endTime":1485.7089999999998,"body":"I've gotten away with it, but"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1485.7089999999998,"endTime":1489.819,"body":"it's away from it. Right? But I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1485.7089999999998,"endTime":1489.819,"body":"think I really need to get back"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1489.819,"endTime":1493.239,"body":"to it especially as I'm doing"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1489.819,"endTime":1493.239,"body":"this very inward journey lately."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1494.349,"endTime":1496.989,"body":"So number five, let me move on"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1494.349,"endTime":1496.989,"body":"to number five. This is a big"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1496.989,"endTime":1503.289,"body":"one. curb the materialism. So in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1496.989,"endTime":1503.289,"body":"our youth getting stuff may have"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1503.289,"endTime":1507.999,"body":"served as a way to boost our"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1503.289,"endTime":1507.999,"body":"status and kind of as they put"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1507.999,"endTime":1513.249,"body":"it tickle our ego. You know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1507.999,"endTime":1513.249,"body":"what's good for us, we sought"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1513.249,"endTime":1519.339,"body":"out for the evidence of our"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1513.249,"endTime":1519.339,"body":"worthiness external All things,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1519.519,"endTime":1523.899,"body":"you know, that car that house"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1519.519,"endTime":1523.899,"body":"that trip that this? You know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1523.9289999999999,"endTime":1528.969,"body":"those are the things that we"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1523.9289999999999,"endTime":1528.969,"body":"kind of showed off to say, we"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1528.999,"endTime":1534.609,"body":"were successful, right? Yeah. So"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1528.999,"endTime":1534.609,"body":"if we let it run its course"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1534.609,"endTime":1539.859,"body":"okay. So this stuff is to be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1534.609,"endTime":1539.859,"body":"appreciated for what it is and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1539.859,"endTime":1545.889,"body":"enjoyed right? Yet, when you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1539.859,"endTime":1545.889,"body":"invest in stuff as your primary"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1545.889,"endTime":1553.629,"body":"means of happiness, it will fail"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1545.889,"endTime":1553.629,"body":"you miserably. Now lost, always"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1553.629,"endTime":1556.989,"body":"going to check, we're always"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1553.629,"endTime":1556.989,"body":"chasing the next, the next the"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1556.989,"endTime":1560.319,"body":"next the next purse the next"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1556.989,"endTime":1560.319,"body":"shoes the next high the next"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1560.319,"endTime":1565.119,"body":"this materialism is an endless"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1560.319,"endTime":1565.119,"body":"Chase."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1565.899,"endTime":1570.519,"body":"Absolutely. And"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1565.899,"endTime":1570.519,"body":"I heard John Mayer, the musician"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1570.519,"endTime":1575.139,"body":"once talk about this, that he"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1570.519,"endTime":1575.139,"body":"loves expensive watches. And the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1575.139,"endTime":1580.599,"body":"second he would get one he was"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1575.139,"endTime":1580.599,"body":"on to the next. The satisfaction"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1580.629,"endTime":1586.539,"body":"was so short, it was about the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1580.629,"endTime":1586.539,"body":"question and moving on. And, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1586.539,"endTime":1589.6589999999999,"body":"know, I'd rather spend money"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1586.539,"endTime":1589.6589999999999,"body":"hanging out and being with"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1589.6589999999999,"endTime":1594.6989999999998,"body":"friends or traveling with my"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1589.6589999999999,"endTime":1594.6989999999998,"body":"kids, then getting new jewelry"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1594.6989999999998,"endTime":1598.629,"body":"or a watch or, you know,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1594.6989999999998,"endTime":1598.629,"body":"something fancy like that. And I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1598.629,"endTime":1603.879,"body":"think at this stage, you know, I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1598.629,"endTime":1603.879,"body":"don't value shiny things."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1603.56,"endTime":1608.54,"body":"Mm hmm. No, no,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1603.56,"endTime":1608.54,"body":"don't get me wrong, I love me a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1606.08,"endTime":1675.98,"body":"Yeah. And"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1606.08,"endTime":1675.98,"body":"there's a lot of research out"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1608.54,"endTime":1614.06,"body":"new purse. I do mean to I'm not"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1608.54,"endTime":1614.06,"body":"saying this is not to say that"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1614.06,"endTime":1617.3899999999999,"body":"people should take a vow of"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1614.06,"endTime":1617.3899999999999,"body":"poverty that they shouldn't, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1617.3899999999999,"endTime":1621.44,"body":"know, do nice things and go on"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1617.3899999999999,"endTime":1621.44,"body":"nice trips. That's not what I'm"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1621.44,"endTime":1625.52,"body":"saying. It's different, but you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1621.44,"endTime":1625.52,"body":"know, that purse is going to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1625.52,"endTime":1630.08,"body":"wear out and, and go out of"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1625.52,"endTime":1630.08,"body":"style. But when you invest, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1630.08,"endTime":1633.9199999999998,"body":"know your heart and soul and"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1630.08,"endTime":1633.9199999999998,"body":"time into spending time with"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1633.9199999999998,"endTime":1638.03,"body":"things that really bring you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1633.9199999999998,"endTime":1638.03,"body":"long lasting joy. You know,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1638.03,"endTime":1642.62,"body":"taking time out to go laugh with"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1638.03,"endTime":1642.62,"body":"friends, to go travel and see"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1642.62,"endTime":1647.48,"body":"new things to break bread and"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1642.62,"endTime":1647.48,"body":"share wine with others. Those"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1647.48,"endTime":1651.32,"body":"are the things that you know,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1647.48,"endTime":1651.32,"body":"have meaning more to me. But"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1651.32,"endTime":1655.4299999999998,"body":"there's a difference. So when"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1651.32,"endTime":1655.4299999999998,"body":"you focus on things to bring"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1655.4299999999998,"endTime":1659.81,"body":"your happiness that is fleeting,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1655.4299999999998,"endTime":1659.81,"body":"and you'll always chase it. Now,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1660.1399999999999,"endTime":1664.6699999999998,"body":"if so, again, it's not the, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1660.1399999999999,"endTime":1664.6699999999998,"body":"should never want nice things."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1664.6699999999998,"endTime":1668.54,"body":"That's not it at all. But if"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1664.6699999999998,"endTime":1668.54,"body":"that's the only thing that you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1668.54,"endTime":1673.04,"body":"chase to have happiness, you're"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1668.54,"endTime":1673.04,"body":"gonna keep chasing, you're gonna"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1673.04,"endTime":1673.82,"body":"keep chasing."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1675.98,"endTime":1679.73,"body":"there about how memories"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1675.98,"endTime":1679.73,"body":"building memories with those you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1679.73,"endTime":1684.59,"body":"love is so much more satisfying"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1679.73,"endTime":1684.59,"body":"than consuming things."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1685.25,"endTime":1688.85,"body":"Absolutely. I was"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1685.25,"endTime":1688.85,"body":"just with a new friend today."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1688.8799999999999,"endTime":1695.12,"body":"Her name is Dee. And I was so"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1688.8799999999999,"endTime":1695.12,"body":"inspired because her birthday"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1695.12,"endTime":1697.97,"body":"her son's birthday, and her"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1695.12,"endTime":1697.97,"body":"daughter in law's birthday are"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1697.97,"endTime":1701.96,"body":"boom, boom, boom on a row. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1697.97,"endTime":1701.96,"body":"they have decided to do birthday"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1701.96,"endTime":1705.8,"body":"trips. They're not doing gifts"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1701.96,"endTime":1705.8,"body":"and stuff. And their next trip"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1705.8,"endTime":1709.8799999999999,"body":"is up to Boston. And you know,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1705.8,"endTime":1709.8799999999999,"body":"we were telling her she needs to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1709.8799999999999,"endTime":1712.97,"body":"go to North End and do these"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1709.8799999999999,"endTime":1712.97,"body":"quaint little Italian"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1712.97,"endTime":1717.44,"body":"restaurants because she's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1712.97,"endTime":1717.44,"body":"considering opening one. And so"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1717.47,"endTime":1722.24,"body":"I loved that idea, though, you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1717.47,"endTime":1722.24,"body":"know, kind of it's about that."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1722.96,"endTime":1725.75,"body":"Can you tell? Can you tell me"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1722.96,"endTime":1725.75,"body":"what somebody bought you for"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1725.75,"endTime":1727.1,"body":"your birthday four years ago?"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1727.6699999999998,"endTime":1730.73,"body":"Absolutely not."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1727.6699999999998,"endTime":1730.73,"body":"I can't even tell you last year."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1731.54,"endTime":1732.74,"body":"But you usually remember"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1732.74,"endTime":1735.4099999999999,"body":"like, oh, we went to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1732.74,"endTime":1735.4099999999999,"body":"this dinner we had laughs We"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1735.4099999999999,"endTime":1739.19,"body":"did. Yeah, those are things"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1735.4099999999999,"endTime":1739.19,"body":"remember. Number six, surprise"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1739.19,"endTime":1741.6499999999999,"body":"me at first, I didn't quite"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1739.19,"endTime":1741.6499999999999,"body":"understand it until I really"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1741.6499999999999,"endTime":1745.55,"body":"started to think about it. But"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1741.6499999999999,"endTime":1745.55,"body":"it's called honoring authority."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1746.06,"endTime":1751.73,"body":"Okay, so it's this idea that you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1746.06,"endTime":1751.73,"body":"should start to relax and enjoy"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1751.73,"endTime":1755.6299999999999,"body":"your role. There are several"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1751.73,"endTime":1755.6299999999999,"body":"benefits to simply allowing"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1756.05,"endTime":1760.4299999999998,"body":"those in authority and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1756.05,"endTime":1760.4299999999998,"body":"authority, authoritative roles"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1760.7,"endTime":1764.78,"body":"to just do their job. You get to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1760.7,"endTime":1764.78,"body":"relax and just play your role."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1764.9299999999998,"endTime":1769.31,"body":"You can focus on simply doing"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1764.9299999999998,"endTime":1769.31,"body":"your best you can earn the trust"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1769.31,"endTime":1774.71,"body":"of those with more power in any"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1769.31,"endTime":1774.71,"body":"organization. The clarity of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1774.71,"endTime":1778.9099999999999,"body":"knowing your role takes pressure"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1774.71,"endTime":1778.9099999999999,"body":"off of you. And you can take"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1778.9099999999999,"endTime":1781.19,"body":"full responsibility for just"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1778.9099999999999,"endTime":1781.19,"body":"yourself."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1782.78,"endTime":1785.9299999999998,"body":"I really like"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1782.78,"endTime":1785.9299999999998,"body":"this one and it's kind of a new"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1785.9299999999998,"endTime":1790.76,"body":"concept but you know, in it can"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1785.9299999999998,"endTime":1790.76,"body":"also be tricky for us driven"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1790.76,"endTime":1795.8899999999999,"body":"kind of career. Women. It's like"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1790.76,"endTime":1795.8899999999999,"body":"we've been driving in fifth gear"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1795.8899999999999,"endTime":1801.86,"body":"on the autobahn, right. And now"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1795.8899999999999,"endTime":1801.86,"body":"we're gonna shift maybe to to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1801.86,"endTime":1806.81,"body":"third. And to be okay with that,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1801.86,"endTime":1806.81,"body":"right? Tish? Oh, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1806.62,"endTime":1810.182,"body":"agree. You know, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1806.62,"endTime":1810.182,"body":"think this one and I said, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1810.258,"endTime":1814.8049999999998,"body":"think I still need to work on"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1810.258,"endTime":1814.8049999999998,"body":"this as well. I can see I'm in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1814.8809999999999,"endTime":1819.126,"body":"the downshift, right? That some"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1814.8809999999999,"endTime":1819.126,"body":"of my friends I know are"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1819.202,"endTime":1823.749,"body":"retired. Hearing and focusing on"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1819.202,"endTime":1823.749,"body":"that. And then I have other"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1823.825,"endTime":1828.373,"body":"friends who are 40 something, my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1823.825,"endTime":1828.373,"body":"friend Sara, in particular,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1828.4489999999998,"endTime":1833.224,"body":"think about her. And she's just"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1828.4489999999998,"endTime":1833.224,"body":"kicking that and into high gear"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1833.3,"endTime":1837.772,"body":"right now her career is going"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1833.3,"endTime":1837.772,"body":"crazy. And instead of feeling"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1837.848,"endTime":1842.395,"body":"like, oh, I need to keep up, or"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1837.848,"endTime":1842.395,"body":"threatened or intimidated, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1842.471,"endTime":1847.095,"body":"just tried to be so encouraging"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1842.471,"endTime":1847.095,"body":"and supportive, because I was"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1847.1699999999998,"endTime":1851.87,"body":"there, and guess I am shifting"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1847.1699999999998,"endTime":1851.87,"body":"down. And I'm okay with that. I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1851.946,"endTime":1856.569,"body":"can be absolutely okay with her,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1851.946,"endTime":1856.569,"body":"flying past me, and going in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1856.645,"endTime":1861.344,"body":"lightning speed and be all the"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1856.645,"endTime":1861.344,"body":"encouraging and supportive that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1861.4199999999998,"endTime":1866.12,"body":"I can to her. And it's about my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1861.4199999999998,"endTime":1866.12,"body":"internal happiness and where I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1866.195,"endTime":1870.5159999999998,"body":"am, and it's not as wrapped up"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1866.195,"endTime":1870.5159999999998,"body":"anymore in what do I do my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1870.591,"endTime":1875.291,"body":"career. And it's focusing, it's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1870.591,"endTime":1875.291,"body":"shifting, I can see that I can"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1875.367,"endTime":1878.02,"body":"see on going down a different path."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1879.4289999999999,"endTime":1882.219,"body":"And I think"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1879.4289999999999,"endTime":1882.219,"body":"that's a, it's a really great"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1882.219,"endTime":1888.579,"body":"point, for those of us that have"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1882.219,"endTime":1888.579,"body":"really put a lot of time into"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1888.579,"endTime":1893.109,"body":"our careers, right? That things"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1888.579,"endTime":1893.109,"body":"can be changing and to to be"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1893.109,"endTime":1894.069,"body":"okay with that."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1895.4199999999998,"endTime":1899.62,"body":"Yeah. Now, number"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1895.4199999999998,"endTime":1899.62,"body":"seven, it kind of goes hand in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1899.62,"endTime":1904.48,"body":"hand with that one to embracing"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1899.62,"endTime":1904.48,"body":"your limitations. And it's talks"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1904.48,"endTime":1910.84,"body":"about slowly accepting that I'm"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1904.48,"endTime":1910.84,"body":"not the right guy for every kind"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1910.87,"endTime":1918.6699999999998,"body":"of case, okay. And it's this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1910.87,"endTime":1918.6699999999998,"body":"idea that, as we recognize that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1918.73,"endTime":1924.34,"body":"we're not, we're not everything"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1918.73,"endTime":1924.34,"body":"for everybody. Okay. So it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1924.34,"endTime":1930.1,"body":"allows us to kind of say, that's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1924.34,"endTime":1930.1,"body":"not my expertise. This is my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1930.1,"endTime":1935.29,"body":"lane. This is where I'm really"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1930.1,"endTime":1935.29,"body":"good. And let me soar in, in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1935.29,"endTime":1940.21,"body":"where I'm really successful at"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1935.29,"endTime":1940.21,"body":"what I already know. It's kind"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1940.21,"endTime":1945.28,"body":"of letting go of needing to be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1940.21,"endTime":1945.28,"body":"knowing everything about"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1945.28,"endTime":1949.1799999999998,"body":"everything. But to say, You know"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1945.28,"endTime":1949.1799999999998,"body":"what, I know an awful lot about"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1949.21,"endTime":1954.25,"body":"this, too. You need this. I'm"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1949.21,"endTime":1954.25,"body":"your girl, you need that. Maybe"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1954.25,"endTime":1957.19,"body":"we need to go to elsewhere in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1954.25,"endTime":1957.19,"body":"life right now. Right?"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1957.6699999999998,"endTime":1961.1799999999998,"body":"I know, we I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1957.6699999999998,"endTime":1961.1799999999998,"body":"kind of call those people EOE's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1961.21,"endTime":1967.24,"body":"expert on everything. And I've"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1961.21,"endTime":1967.24,"body":"never needed to be an E. O. E."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1967.45,"endTime":1970.75,"body":"myself. You know, there were"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1967.45,"endTime":1970.75,"body":"some that really felt they were"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1970.75,"endTime":1974.95,"body":"experts on everything. But I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1970.75,"endTime":1974.95,"body":"agree it's really being more"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1974.95,"endTime":1978.3999999999999,"body":"focused and knowing what you're"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1974.95,"endTime":1978.3999999999999,"body":"good at and letting someone"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1978.3999999999999,"endTime":1982.4199999999998,"body":"else. Take it on when when"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1978.3999999999999,"endTime":1982.4199999999998,"body":"you're you know, that's not your"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1982.4199999999998,"endTime":1986.9199999999998,"body":"expertise. I definitely think"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1982.4199999999998,"endTime":1986.9199999999998,"body":"that at first, I thought when"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1986.9199999999998,"endTime":1991.06,"body":"you when you brought this up,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1986.9199999999998,"endTime":1991.06,"body":"embrace your limitations. It was"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1991.06,"endTime":1995.29,"body":"more like on our kayaking trip"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1991.06,"endTime":1995.29,"body":"when you wanted to go into caves"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1995.29,"endTime":2000.12,"body":"and be really daring, and I did"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1995.29,"endTime":2000.12,"body":"not. I had definitely embraced"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2000.12,"endTime":2003.3,"body":"my limitations in a sea kayak."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2000.12,"endTime":2003.3,"body":"But"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2003.34,"endTime":2006.07,"body":"you made me embrace"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2003.34,"endTime":2006.07,"body":"my limitations on the sea"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2006.07,"endTime":2011.02,"body":"kayaking, too. And we still had"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2006.07,"endTime":2011.02,"body":"a great time with our time . We"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2011.05,"endTime":2014.71,"body":"but you know, I really thought"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2011.05,"endTime":2014.71,"body":"about this one. This one gave me"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2014.71,"endTime":2017.77,"body":"a little when I first read it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2014.71,"endTime":2017.77,"body":"gave me a little trouble because"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2017.77,"endTime":2022.8999999999999,"body":"I was like, you know, again, as"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2017.77,"endTime":2022.8999999999999,"body":"driven women, the word"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2022.8999999999999,"endTime":2029.23,"body":"limitation is like a dirty word."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2022.8999999999999,"endTime":2029.23,"body":"Right. And that's not, that's"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2029.23,"endTime":2033.25,"body":"not what this is about. It's I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2029.23,"endTime":2033.25,"body":"think, anytime I was in a job"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2033.25,"endTime":2038.1699999999998,"body":"when I was younger, and I didn't"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2033.25,"endTime":2038.1699999999998,"body":"know part of it, I felt a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2038.2,"endTime":2043.21,"body":"burning need to become an expert"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2038.2,"endTime":2043.21,"body":"on that area, because I saw it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2043.21,"endTime":2048.61,"body":"as a weakness or a missing link"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2043.21,"endTime":2048.61,"body":"or something. And I think now"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2048.64,"endTime":2054.31,"body":"it's that, let it go. Just keep"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2048.64,"endTime":2054.31,"body":"moving forward with where you do"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2054.31,"endTime":2059.71,"body":"dominate where you are an expert"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2054.31,"endTime":2059.71,"body":"at, you don't need to be that EO"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2059.71,"endTime":2062.9500000000003,"body":"E. I've never heard that one"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2059.71,"endTime":2062.9500000000003,"body":"before. But you don't need to be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2062.9500000000003,"endTime":2066.7599999999998,"body":"that and there's a lot of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2062.9500000000003,"endTime":2066.7599999999998,"body":"happiness and not chasing being"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2066.7599999999998,"endTime":2067.2999999999997,"body":"the EOE"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2068.43,"endTime":2071.37,"body":"true it's true"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2068.43,"endTime":2071.37,"body":"in my kind of work. A lot of"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2071.37,"endTime":2074.79,"body":"times we say stay in your own"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2071.37,"endTime":2074.79,"body":"swim lane. That's one of the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2074.79,"endTime":2076.47,"body":"things right and I think that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2075.56,"endTime":2082.1,"body":"line okay. So number"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2075.56,"endTime":2082.1,"body":"eight, draw the line, oh, this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2082.19,"endTime":2089.12,"body":"now this is setting boundaries."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2082.19,"endTime":2089.12,"body":"When we say no speaking of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2089.12,"endTime":2098.0299999999997,"body":"drawing lines, now, many of us"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2089.12,"endTime":2098.0299999999997,"body":"how to put this that that we we"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2098.0299999999997,"endTime":2101.9,"body":"are not clear at making"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2098.0299999999997,"endTime":2101.9,"body":"boundaries of what is acceptable"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2101.9,"endTime":2106.7599999999998,"body":"to us. And I think as women were"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2101.9,"endTime":2106.7599999999998,"body":"not encouraged at a young age to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2106.7599999999998,"endTime":2112.25,"body":"have good boundaries, we will be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2106.7599999999998,"endTime":2112.25,"body":"in morph into whatever is needed"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2112.25,"endTime":2118.34,"body":"in a job and our families. We're"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2112.25,"endTime":2118.34,"body":"in a relationship. Women are"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2118.34,"endTime":2125.15,"body":"We're taught to not have clear"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2118.34,"endTime":2125.15,"body":"cut boundaries growing up. So"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2125.15,"endTime":2128.9,"body":"this is a tough one, I think,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2125.15,"endTime":2128.9,"body":"for a lot of women. And I think"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2129.2,"endTime":2132.56,"body":"the real key to happiness, and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2129.2,"endTime":2132.56,"body":"I'm seeing this in a lot of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2132.56,"endTime":2137.72,"body":"different things in my life"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2132.56,"endTime":2137.72,"body":"right now, is, when I set better"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2137.72,"endTime":2143.66,"body":"boundaries, I'm happier, you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2137.72,"endTime":2143.66,"body":"know, to say, you know, this is"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2143.66,"endTime":2147.41,"body":"the line, you need to say on"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2143.66,"endTime":2147.41,"body":"that side of the line, I'm gonna"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2147.41,"endTime":2149.0,"body":"stay on this side of the line."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2149.94,"endTime":2151.47,"body":"You know, I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2149.94,"endTime":2151.47,"body":"think we could do a whole"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2151.47,"endTime":2156.6,"body":"episode on this. And I agree"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2151.47,"endTime":2156.6,"body":"that women, really, we've been"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2156.6,"endTime":2161.94,"body":"taught to be pleasers, and we've"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2156.6,"endTime":2161.94,"body":"many, many of us have led lives"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2161.94,"endTime":2166.17,"body":"with no boundaries. And I used"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2161.94,"endTime":2166.17,"body":"to get angry. It's like, well, I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2166.17,"endTime":2169.11,"body":"said that, why do I have to keep"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2166.17,"endTime":2169.11,"body":"redrawing the boundary? I have"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2169.11,"endTime":2172.23,"body":"to put the boundary back in the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2169.11,"endTime":2172.23,"body":"sand. I have to do it again."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2172.32,"endTime":2175.65,"body":"Don't put your foot over the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2172.32,"endTime":2175.65,"body":"line, you know. And now it's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2175.65,"endTime":2181.29,"body":"like, well, there it is. You"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2175.65,"endTime":2181.29,"body":"want me to say it 234 times it's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2181.29,"endTime":2186.93,"body":"not moving. Right. I think"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2181.29,"endTime":2186.93,"body":"that's something too, that you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2186.93,"endTime":2193.23,"body":"know, what has really come with"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2186.93,"endTime":2193.23,"body":"mid life? Right? There's limited"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2193.23,"endTime":2197.22,"body":"to we were feeling I'm feeling"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2193.23,"endTime":2197.22,"body":"there's limited time left? I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2197.22,"endTime":2200.52,"body":"don't want to be doing things I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2197.22,"endTime":2200.52,"body":"don't want to be doing. Right."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2200.61,"endTime":2204.15,"body":"Yeah. Yeah. I've"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2200.61,"endTime":2204.15,"body":"also found that there's a whole"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2204.15,"endTime":2209.2799999999997,"body":"lot of drama, when there's not"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2204.15,"endTime":2209.2799999999997,"body":"clear boundaries. So true. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2209.2799999999997,"endTime":2212.2799999999997,"body":"you don't have to scream and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2209.2799999999997,"endTime":2212.2799999999997,"body":"yell your boundaries? No, you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2212.2799999999997,"endTime":2216.42,"body":"just say this is it and turn and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2212.2799999999997,"endTime":2216.42,"body":"take your toys and go home, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2216.42,"endTime":2221.88,"body":"guess. Leave? You know what I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2216.42,"endTime":2221.88,"body":"really would love to do a whole"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2221.88,"endTime":2226.5299999999997,"body":"episode on setting healthy"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2221.88,"endTime":2226.5299999999997,"body":"boundaries. I think this is a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2226.5299999999997,"endTime":2231.0,"body":"skill that we need to learn and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2226.5299999999997,"endTime":2231.0,"body":"relearn. And we need to teach"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2231.0,"endTime":2232.65,"body":"our daughters at a younger age,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2232.83,"endTime":2236.16,"body":"absolutely"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2232.83,"endTime":2236.16,"body":"teach our daughters, the younger"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2236.16,"endTime":2238.2,"body":"generation of women need this."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2238.62,"endTime":2241.92,"body":"Okay, so number"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2238.62,"endTime":2241.92,"body":"nine, is see your parents as"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2241.92,"endTime":2247.14,"body":"people. So, you know, if you're"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2241.92,"endTime":2247.14,"body":"doing your own emotional work,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2247.2,"endTime":2251.34,"body":"they say that seeing your"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2247.2,"endTime":2251.34,"body":"parents as people is key in"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2251.34,"endTime":2258.84,"body":"here. And this is time to begin"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2251.34,"endTime":2258.84,"body":"in a much easier way as people"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2258.93,"endTime":2264.24,"body":"that we merely see our own"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2258.93,"endTime":2264.24,"body":"strengths and weaknesses and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2264.24,"endTime":2269.7,"body":"stuff. So I think we've always"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2264.24,"endTime":2269.7,"body":"like put our parents on this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2269.7,"endTime":2275.64,"body":"pedestal, pedestal of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2269.7,"endTime":2275.64,"body":"perfection. And if they fell off"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2275.64,"endTime":2279.84,"body":"of it, or dipped low on it, man,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2275.64,"endTime":2279.84,"body":"we were calling them out that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2279.84,"endTime":2282.21,"body":"they weren't perfect needed."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2279.84,"endTime":2282.21,"body":"They didn't do this, or they"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2282.21,"endTime":2287.22,"body":"didn't do that. And we didn't"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2282.21,"endTime":2287.22,"body":"really see our parents, as"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2287.22,"endTime":2291.27,"body":"people as they have their own"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2287.22,"endTime":2291.27,"body":"struggles, and they're going to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2291.27,"endTime":2293.97,"body":"succeed, and they're going to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2291.27,"endTime":2293.97,"body":"stumble, and they're going to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2293.97,"endTime":2297.12,"body":"get back up, and they're going"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2293.97,"endTime":2297.12,"body":"to try their best. And I think"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2297.12,"endTime":2301.41,"body":"when we see that we can be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2297.12,"endTime":2301.41,"body":"easier on ourselves as well."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2302.6,"endTime":2305.63,"body":"I completely"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2302.6,"endTime":2305.63,"body":"agree. And you know, both of us"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2305.63,"endTime":2311.45,"body":"have lost our parents, both of"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2305.63,"endTime":2311.45,"body":"them. And I think as as I get"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2311.45,"endTime":2318.5,"body":"older, I definitely see them as"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2311.45,"endTime":2318.5,"body":"more human, right. Just Normal"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2318.5299999999997,"endTime":2322.7,"body":"people. And it's true when I was"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2318.5299999999997,"endTime":2322.7,"body":"younger, I did expect them to be"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2322.7,"endTime":2328.07,"body":"perfect and really held them to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2322.7,"endTime":2328.07,"body":"too high of a standard. And now"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2328.07,"endTime":2332.66,"body":"with struggles we've all faced"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2328.07,"endTime":2332.66,"body":"in our life lives, you know, you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2332.66,"endTime":2336.56,"body":"can really understand their"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2332.66,"endTime":2336.56,"body":"choices. And I do remember when"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2336.56,"endTime":2341.15,"body":"my mom was sick, she had ovarian"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2336.56,"endTime":2341.15,"body":"cancer. And she was dying. We"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2341.15,"endTime":2344.93,"body":"were chatting one day about"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2341.15,"endTime":2344.93,"body":"something. And she said to me, I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2344.93,"endTime":2350.27,"body":"did the best I could with what I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2344.93,"endTime":2350.27,"body":"had, I always tried to do the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2350.27,"endTime":2354.86,"body":"best. And sometimes it wasn't"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2350.27,"endTime":2354.86,"body":"enough or it wasn't right. But"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2355.16,"endTime":2359.7799999999997,"body":"my heart was always there trying"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2355.16,"endTime":2359.7799999999997,"body":"to do the best thing. And I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2359.7799999999997,"endTime":2363.44,"body":"really took that moment away"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2359.7799999999997,"endTime":2363.44,"body":"with me from from that"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2363.44,"endTime":2364.58,"body":"conversation."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2365.67,"endTime":2368.7,"body":"Well, you know, it"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2365.67,"endTime":2368.7,"body":"was funny. I do not have a lot"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2368.7,"endTime":2373.5299999999997,"body":"of arguments with my daughter,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2368.7,"endTime":2373.5299999999997,"body":"right? We recently had a really"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2373.5299999999997,"endTime":2378.93,"body":"bad argument over this very"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2373.5299999999997,"endTime":2378.93,"body":"issue. She was holding me to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2378.93,"endTime":2384.39,"body":"task about things like not being"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2378.93,"endTime":2384.39,"body":"this perfect parent and I didn't"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2384.39,"endTime":2388.02,"body":"do this or I didn't do that. And"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2384.39,"endTime":2388.02,"body":"I really kind of laid into her"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2388.02,"endTime":2392.22,"body":"with this. I said you know, that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2388.02,"endTime":2392.22,"body":"kind of same kind of thing. I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2392.22,"endTime":2395.82,"body":"did the best I could. I was a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2392.22,"endTime":2395.82,"body":"single mom for you know most of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2395.82,"endTime":2400.56,"body":"my adult life. I did the best I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2395.82,"endTime":2400.56,"body":"could I'm a flawed human being"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2400.83,"endTime":2405.66,"body":"that works on trying to be"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2400.83,"endTime":2405.66,"body":"better. And we really came"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2405.66,"endTime":2413.0099999999998,"body":"through that okay, you know, I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2405.66,"endTime":2413.0099999999998,"body":"think she came to this idea of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2413.43,"endTime":2418.38,"body":"wait my mom was just a person."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2413.43,"endTime":2418.38,"body":"You know? She she did do her"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2418.38,"endTime":2422.19,"body":"best asked and stuff like that."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2418.38,"endTime":2422.19,"body":"And I think maybe at a much"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2422.19,"endTime":2425.22,"body":"younger age, she has a little"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2422.19,"endTime":2425.22,"body":"bit of a more of an awareness."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2425.7599999999998,"endTime":2429.7799999999997,"body":"Right? I'm just a person, you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2425.7599999999998,"endTime":2429.7799999999997,"body":"know? Yes, I'm mom, but I'm not"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2429.7799999999997,"endTime":2433.77,"body":"perfect. And yes, I made"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2429.7799999999997,"endTime":2433.77,"body":"mistakes. And yes, I did my"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2433.77,"endTime":2439.11,"body":"best. And I think when you let"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2433.77,"endTime":2439.11,"body":"your parents off the hook on"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2439.11,"endTime":2443.73,"body":"that, yep, start you're let"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2439.11,"endTime":2443.73,"body":"yourself off the hook on maybe"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2443.73,"endTime":2447.33,"body":"feeling I should have done more?"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2443.73,"endTime":2447.33,"body":"Or should you're just a person"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2447.33,"endTime":2448.2599999999998,"body":"you did your best,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2448.41,"endTime":2450.6,"body":"right? It's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2448.41,"endTime":2450.6,"body":"that judgment piece we talked"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2450.6,"endTime":2454.23,"body":"about earlier, when we're not"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2450.6,"endTime":2454.23,"body":"judging ourselves so harshly."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2454.2599999999998,"endTime":2457.14,"body":"We're not judging others. And"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2454.2599999999998,"endTime":2457.14,"body":"that's the same for our kids."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2457.17,"endTime":2458.58,"body":"Right eye on us."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2459.5099999999998,"endTime":2463.11,"body":"So our final one,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2459.5099999999998,"endTime":2463.11,"body":"number 10. This is the bottom"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2463.11,"endTime":2469.5299999999997,"body":"line. Look Within, for the"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2463.11,"endTime":2469.5299999999997,"body":"answers you are seeking. And I"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2469.5299999999997,"endTime":2473.58,"body":"think all of the first nine kind"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2469.5299999999997,"endTime":2473.58,"body":"of speak to this bottom line."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2474.87,"endTime":2479.37,"body":"These things are not external."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2474.87,"endTime":2479.37,"body":"They don't come from someone"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2479.37,"endTime":2485.79,"body":"else. True happiness really does"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2479.37,"endTime":2485.79,"body":"come from within, you need to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2485.79,"endTime":2488.85,"body":"answer these things for"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2485.79,"endTime":2488.85,"body":"yourself. What's important to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2488.85,"endTime":2491.85,"body":"you? Where are you spending"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2488.85,"endTime":2491.85,"body":"time, what are your your values"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2492.0299999999997,"endTime":2496.47,"body":"were your boundaries, these are"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2492.0299999999997,"endTime":2496.47,"body":"all internal things. So at the"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2496.47,"endTime":2502.17,"body":"end of the day, that you that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2496.47,"endTime":2502.17,"body":"you seek within these boundaries"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2502.17,"endTime":2507.57,"body":"of your own skin, gone are the"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2502.17,"endTime":2507.57,"body":"days when from our youth that we"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2507.57,"endTime":2512.52,"body":"are looking for outside"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2507.57,"endTime":2512.52,"body":"assurances, and reassurances and"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2512.52,"endTime":2517.86,"body":"status symbols, that every"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2512.52,"endTime":2517.86,"body":"thought leaders throughout"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2517.86,"endTime":2523.23,"body":"history have validated this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2517.86,"endTime":2523.23,"body":"principle. You know, it's just"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2523.23,"endTime":2527.43,"body":"so important, it has to come"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2523.23,"endTime":2527.43,"body":"from within. And this is the"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2527.43,"endTime":2533.61,"body":"time we are at midlife. And this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2527.43,"endTime":2533.61,"body":"is the time to really start"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2533.67,"endTime":2539.0099999999998,"body":"going from within. And if you do"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2533.67,"endTime":2539.0099999999998,"body":"these things, if you really look"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2539.0099999999998,"endTime":2542.97,"body":"at these 10 steps, you can"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2539.0099999999998,"endTime":2542.97,"body":"really get to that happy place."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2543.99,"endTime":2547.47,"body":"You know, I"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2543.99,"endTime":2547.47,"body":"just love this one so much. And"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2547.47,"endTime":2551.73,"body":"I think calling it the bottom"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2547.47,"endTime":2551.73,"body":"line is really perfect. You"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2551.73,"endTime":2559.41,"body":"know, it's a journey. It's a"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2551.73,"endTime":2559.41,"body":"it's a discovery. And it's so"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2559.41,"endTime":2564.36,"body":"great that we have this ability"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2559.41,"endTime":2564.36,"body":"to be at this moment of self"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2564.36,"endTime":2568.74,"body":"discovery, and beyond this"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2564.36,"endTime":2568.74,"body":"journey. And I think, you know,"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2568.77,"endTime":2574.0499999999997,"body":"maybe in the past, there's been"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2568.77,"endTime":2574.0499999999997,"body":"a lot of noise around. But the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2574.0499999999997,"endTime":2580.14,"body":"noise is quieted and you you are"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2574.0499999999997,"endTime":2580.14,"body":"seeking this from within. And as"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2580.14,"endTime":2585.27,"body":"you said earlier, Tish it's not"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2580.14,"endTime":2585.27,"body":"about busying yourself, it's"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2585.27,"endTime":2587.7599999999998,"body":"about knowing yourself."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2588.07,"endTime":2592.93,"body":"Yes, that is so"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2588.07,"endTime":2592.93,"body":"true. And so this is I think,"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2592.96,"endTime":2596.74,"body":"and this is why we redid this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2592.96,"endTime":2596.74,"body":"episode, and this is why it was"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2596.74,"endTime":2601.66,"body":"important for us to redo this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2596.74,"endTime":2601.66,"body":"episode, if we really want to"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2601.66,"endTime":2606.07,"body":"get this through, and get this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2601.66,"endTime":2606.07,"body":"conversation started with our"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2606.07,"endTime":2611.44,"body":"listeners that, you know, make"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2606.07,"endTime":2611.44,"body":"those plans that that you want"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2611.44,"endTime":2614.71,"body":"to do about happiness, reconnect"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2611.44,"endTime":2614.71,"body":"with the things that are"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2614.71,"endTime":2619.87,"body":"important with you really seek"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2614.71,"endTime":2619.87,"body":"out that happiness. Life will"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2619.87,"endTime":2624.85,"body":"pass you by if you're waiting"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2619.87,"endTime":2624.85,"body":"for other people to do these"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2624.85,"endTime":2629.2599999999998,"body":"things for you. Yes, this work"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2624.85,"endTime":2629.2599999999998,"body":"has to come from within."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2629.5,"endTime":2631.36,"body":"That's right."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2629.5,"endTime":2631.36,"body":"And it's your work."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2631.48,"endTime":2634.75,"body":"It's your each of"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2631.48,"endTime":2634.75,"body":"us, each and every one of us."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2634.96,"endTime":2640.12,"body":"And I want to be that spark that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2634.96,"endTime":2640.12,"body":"moves you forward in this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2640.12,"endTime":2645.46,"body":"journey. I know you do as well."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2640.12,"endTime":2645.46,"body":"I'm passionate about why this"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2645.46,"endTime":2650.89,"body":"podcast is important. And why"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2645.46,"endTime":2650.89,"body":"this particular topic is really"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2650.89,"endTime":2655.93,"body":"the essence of who we are The"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2650.89,"endTime":2655.93,"body":"Midsters Podcast, this idea that"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2655.93,"endTime":2661.63,"body":"we have endless possibilities."},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2655.93,"endTime":2661.63,"body":"still rings true. It started a"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2661.63,"endTime":2666.31,"body":"first episode, and it still"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2661.63,"endTime":2666.31,"body":"rings true a number 19 And going"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2666.31,"endTime":2666.88,"body":"forward."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2667.04,"endTime":2669.77,"body":"I know and"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2667.04,"endTime":2669.77,"body":"listeners hate we'd love for you"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2669.77,"endTime":2675.0499999999997,"body":"to post on our Facebook page."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2669.77,"endTime":2675.0499999999997,"body":"Some things around this concept"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2675.0499999999997,"endTime":2678.65,"body":"and this topic and your"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2675.0499999999997,"endTime":2678.65,"body":"butterfly moment. We'd really"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2678.65,"endTime":2683.57,"body":"like to hear from you. We'll go"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2678.65,"endTime":2683.57,"body":"ahead and put these 10 on our"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2684.14,"endTime":2688.64,"body":"website as well and thanks for"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2684.14,"endTime":2688.64,"body":"listening till Next Week"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":2688.64,"endTime":2689.48,"body":"Midsters"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2690.0,"endTime":2691.47,"body":"Till next week"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":2690.0,"endTime":2691.47,"body":"Midsters"}]}