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What are you"},{"speaker":"Tish Woods","startTime":1810.34,"endTime":1814.3,"body":"currently dabbling in right now?"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1815.0,"endTime":1817.34,"body":"Well, I just"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1815.0,"endTime":1817.34,"body":"wanted to recommend a book"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1817.34,"endTime":1821.06,"body":"called Tiny Beautiful Things by"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1817.34,"endTime":1821.06,"body":"the author who wrote Into the"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1821.06,"endTime":1826.04,"body":"Wild that movie, Reese"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1821.06,"endTime":1826.04,"body":"Witherspoon was in, I wanted to"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1826.04,"endTime":1829.52,"body":"recommend the Paris Apartment."},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1826.04,"endTime":1829.52,"body":"It's like a mystery thriller"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1829.52,"endTime":1832.76,"body":"because I didn't have a mystery"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1829.52,"endTime":1832.76,"body":"thriller on these, these five"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1832.76,"endTime":1837.32,"body":"books we just went through by"},{"speaker":"Ellen Gustafson","startTime":1832.76,"endTime":1837.32,"body":"Lucy Foley at sent in Paris. 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