American Towing and Recovery Institute onThe Go
American Towing and Recovery Institute onThe Go
Bringing Accurate Towing Education to Young Readers
When Briar Roberts started reading towing-themed books to his young children, something unexpected happened – he got mad. As an experienced tow truck operator, the technical inaccuracies in these stories were glaring. Hooks attached to plastic bumpers? Cables through windows? This wasn't the profession he knew and loved.
What began as bedtime frustration transformed into inspiration when his wife suggested a simple solution: "Why don't you write one?" So, Roberts penned what would become "Chuck the Little Tow Truck," a children's book that finally represents the towing industry with technical accuracy while delivering heartwarming messages about perseverance, mentorship, and safety.
During this captivating conversation with hosts DJ Harrington, April and Wes Wilburn, Roberts reveals the surprisingly swift writing process and the more challenging journey through illustration and self-publishing. Working with South American illustrator Eduardo Posh, Roberts meticulously ensured every visual detail accurately reflected proper towing techniques – from correct vehicle recovery positions to the inclusion of specialized equipment like spreader bars and snatch blocks.
Beyond technical precision, "Chuck the Little Tow Truck" embeds critical safety messaging about slowing down and moving over for roadside workers – education that could potentially save lives by reaching children and parents simultaneously. The story itself follows a small tow truck with big dreams, teaching valuable lessons about knowing your capabilities and recognizing when to ask for help.
Now available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Walmart, this first installment in a planned series represents more than just a children's book – it's an industry veteran's contribution to accurate representation and safety education. For towers who visit schools with their trucks or want to share their profession with the next generation, Roberts has created the perfect companion piece that respects and celebrates the skilled work of towing professionals.
Ready to support this industry-changing project? Visit your preferred bookseller to purchase "Chuck the Little Tow Truck" today, or contact Roberts directly at robertsbriar91@gmail.com to arrange bulk orders for schools, events, or industry promotion.
You're on the Train to Success with April and Wes Wilburn. I'm DJ Harrington, the co-host, better known as the Toe Doctor. We're all on our way to the town of proper towing and recovery, along with our producer, Chuck Camp, in the studio. Don't go to the town of woulda, coulda, shoulda. You coulda had done this. You should have done that. Listen every week to thought-provoking wisdom from great guests iTunes, Pandora, Stitcher, iHeartMedia or the number one podcast, or maybe Amazon or wherever you get your podcasts. Turn in on Wednesday and be turned on all week long. If you are a state association and want your announcements or upcoming state association news announcements or upcoming state association news, or maybe a co-show that's coming up, let us know. Our podcast studio phone number is 706-409-5603. I'm proud to be part of a great team at the american dorm recovery institute. Let's make 2025 our best year ever. I will turn it to April Loomis.
Speaker 3:Well, thank you, DJ. Appreciate the warm welcome and all you do to make this podcast happen. We really appreciate that. Can't thank you enough for all the efforts you put into things. Hope you're doing well, April. How are you doing today?
Speaker 4:I'm doing pretty good too, and let's not forget about Chuck too, because Chuck is a behind the scenes guy, and we got Wesley Wilburn here, who's a behind the scenes person too, and I'm doing fantastic because we reached the 20,000 mark and I'm going to shoot for 25,000.
Speaker 3:Oh heck yeah, 20,000 listeners.
Speaker 4:And that's all together. We've done this all together.
Speaker 3:You're right, you recognize Chuck and Wesley. They take an integral part behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:They sure do.
Speaker 3:So the weather's broken here a little bit. In the Carolinas we're not in the 90 and 100 degree heat, so that's been real nice. We've had a busy week with getting training lined up for the fall. We made a couple adjustments in the training schedule and we'll talk about that in a couple minutes. So how are you doing? What's going on with you, april and?
Speaker 4:your new venture. My new venture, towing Equipment Direct, is something I've taken over, so we are a majority minority owned company. Wes always teases me when I say that, because it's like a little bit of a tongue twister. It makes you think about something. But it is a female ownedowned entity now and went on the road a couple weeks back with Margaret who's helping me get this launched up and started up, and Kim is helping with this too, so been received well so far. I did a little door-to-door and for my technical advisor I still have Wes Wilburn here at my side. That's always an added bonus to it too, so I'm excited about it. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's really exciting that she's taking over, so tell us about those synthetic packages.
Speaker 4:All right, and we actually just launched this package. We're calling it a Super 8 Heavy Duty Synthetic Recovery Kit. It's got eight pieces to it. It has the soft shackles, the 5, 8s by 25 foot, two of those. It's got two of the half inch by eight foot with the Spectra material super slings. It's got two of the 3.25x8 super slings and it's got two of the 7.8x8 foot container slings and a duffel bag that normally retails for $2,300, but we have that one special right now for $1,950. So if you're within earshot of this podcast, give me a call at 910-747-9000, and I can work up this deal for you.
Speaker 3:So that's one of the things they've done is put these packages together to make equipping trucks easier. So thanks for that information, april. I certainly appreciate it. For training we've got a strong schedule started in September. On September the 4th that's a Thursday evening we're going to be in Wichita, kansas, for our electric vehicle class. That is a certification class. That's September 4th in Wichita, kansas.
Speaker 3:On September the 6th and 7th will be a two-day light and medium-duty class in Elkhart, indiana. Then we go on to Buffalo, new York, october 3rd through the 5th for a heavy-duty extreme class, going to get some big equipment stuck in some real-world situations. Going to be myself and we'll have a special guest instructor. We'll also be October 9th and 10th in Chattanooga, tennessee, two-day heavy-duty towing and recovery class. Then, october 16th, we'll be in Kansas City for a one-day light duty, kansas City, missouri. Then on October 17th and 18th, kansas City for a two-day heavy-duty towing and recovery. October 25th and 26th, lake Station, indiana, heavy-duty rotator class.
Speaker 3:Then November 7th, enterprise, alabama. One day light duty, november the 8th and 9th, two day heavy duty towing and recovery. Also in November. November the 15th, we'll be in Lake Charles, louisiana, for a light duty class. Then on November the 16th we'll be in Lake Charles as well for heavy duty. December 6th and 7th we'll be down in Naples, florida, for a light and medium class. Working on a couple more dates, we'll be adding them to the schedule shortly. If you'd like any more information, go to our website americantowingandrecoveryinstituteorg.
Speaker 4:Or amtowriorg.
Speaker 3:And also you can contact our office 910-747-9000. We've got a great interview after the break. We've got a gentleman that has published a new book about tow trucks for children, so hang around until after the break and we've got a great interview for you.
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Speaker 1:Welcome back listeners. You know you're listening to the number one podcast in the towing and recovery industry. I want to thank each and every one of you. We're available on Spotify, itunes, pandora, stitcher, ilog Media, amazon or wherever you get your podcasts, and this will be a great one. We've got a great guest. We'll bring you to goodness week.
Speaker 3:Well, thanks, dj, and I want to thank you for everything you do for this podcast. We are blessed to have a great guest this week. You know a lot of people talk about things that should happen and some people step up and make things happen, and this next gentleman, a member of our industry, took action for something he saw was a problem, and I'm gonna let him tell his his own story. Brian Roberts, author of children's book, member of the towing industry, briar, introduce yourself before I get myself in more trouble.
Speaker 5:I work for Riker Nib. I have record service out of Indiana. We have multiple locations. I've been doing this for seven years. Next month will be my eighth year doing it. It's just been a passion of mine. I absolutely love what I do. I'm a retired military veteran so I did that for six years and then just kind of got out and just fell into the. Got out and just fell into the trapping and just fell into the record business and I just I love it for a long time and we get along very well.
Speaker 4:And Brian, number one, I would like to thank you for your service to our country and continuing that service to the towing industry. I looked at your book and I know you're going to go into it and I'm really interested in what inspired this to happen.
Speaker 5:Well, it's actually kind of funny because me and my wife we read books for our kids like every night. I have three kids kids and at the time I actually wrote the book about a year ago and it took that long to get it illustrated and get it published and everything. But at the time my kids were probably one, two and five and we would read to them every night. And my kids love big trucks, they love to do big trucks and everything they love. So we bought occasionally a couple tow truck books and stuff and every time I read one of them I just got so mad.
Speaker 5:I mean I'm talking like they put a hook on the front bumper of a van or something Like just grabbing on plastic. It looked like to me and a bunch of other ways. Like you see a hook going through a window and they're trying to roll a van or something over and it's just like. That's irritating to me and my kids would always ask like, oh, is that how you do it, dad? I'm like no, it's not. And then so I just I don't know. I said like they just let anybody write a book and probably don't even know anything about it.
Speaker 5:My wife is like why don't? You write one. I just brushed it off like ha ha, you're funny. And then we finished getting them tucked into bed and I went and laid down and I wrote the book just laying in bed. I looked over, he goes. Well, he told me to write it, so here you read it. She goes. You did not.
Speaker 4:So, briar, how long did it take you to write this book?
Speaker 5:In one night. Yes, it took me one night.
Speaker 2:I probably wrote it in about a half hour.
Speaker 5:I mean it's not a very long book. I just literally had a storyline in my head and it just went and I just kept going with it. It took me a couple weeks to edit everything and get it to the way I wanted it and then to be able to come up with, like the backgrounds and the images. I wanted what I saw in my head, put it down on paper to be able to explain it to somebody else and what I was looking for out of it. So I mean it was a long process, but the writing part, it just kind of just came to me and I just really liked it and I just kept going with it.
Speaker 2:As I was writing, more and more kept coming to my head.
Speaker 5:So I just kept going and going. It just kind of went from there.
Speaker 3:All right, I've got a couple questions. Absolutely First of all, introduce your wife and your family to us. Your wife's name is Lydia Roberts, okay, and you, uh, your children's names, names.
Speaker 5:Um Bowen, deacon and Callum.
Speaker 3:Awesome and so and the whole family's interested in trucks.
Speaker 5:you're saying yes, my kids love big trucks, they love tow, love tow trucks. I mean, I can read the book to my two-year-old and he just points at the picture and goes dad, that's truck, that that's truck, and just it's the best feeling ever yeah, that sounds awesome.
Speaker 3:It really does. Um, have you ever done anything like this before written a book?
Speaker 5:no, I have never written a book before. I'm kind of just out in the deep waters trying to figure it out as I go and everything else. I mean it's been quite the process to try to figure out how to get everything to come together.
Speaker 5:I found an amazing illustrator, eduardo posh, who's from south america. The guy just he worked with me non-stop and we just worked really well together. I kept explaining things and we got redoing the pictures and I wanted to get it as close as I could to the way we do things like rigging, wise utilizing. There's a spreader bar in the book. Like I tried everything I could, I got snatch blocks in it. I mean, eventually I kind of had to settle with the images because it was starting to cost a lot of money to keep having to read these images.
Speaker 4:It's interesting to me to think about making the story entertaining enough for children to be read to or read and understand it and be entertained by it, and then also using as much of the realistic image imaging in the picture and with the pictures as you can, so, when they weren't looking at this, this is a real thing that they're saying.
Speaker 5:Yes, I mean I really wanted. The main idea behind this is to try to bring a tow truck book that even tow truck operators reading to their kids like reading it, because it's more along the lines of to the way things are actually supposed to be. I mean, yeah, I had them hooking a pickup truck correctly and everything I'm. Everything needed to be the way it's supposed to be, because, as a tow truck operator, I myself could not stand supposed to be, because, as a tow truck operator, I myself could not stand reading those kind of books to my kids. And so I felt like us, as the towing industry, deserve to be able to read a good book to our kids, because you see all these awesome construction books and everything else. Well, I wanted to bring a really good tow truck book to the mix. That kind of stays true, and I do plan to do more. I do plan to have a family series in due time.
Speaker 4:It definitely seems like the book writing itself is just an adventure just in itself, and your kids are watching you do this and achieve this. Everybody says, oh, I could write a book. Everybody says that there's a little bit more to it than that. You know, there's a lot more to it than that.
Speaker 5:Oh, definitely. I mean especially coming to a children's book when you're talking about you've got to have good images to keep the kids' attention, and you can't just draw whatever you want. So that's why I say that's going to have a really good illustrator work with me and everything else, just to make it more entertaining for the kids. They deserve that.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. I love that train of thought. I've got a couple more questions, but I need to ask you to hang around until after the break. Come back and tell us I'm going to ask you the question I know our listeners have on their mind.
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Speaker 1:Welcome back listeners, and I can't thank you enough for helping us become number one in the towing and recovery industry for podcasts. This is wonderful and I can't thank you enough. So please remember to like, review and share with everyone. If you want an industry expert like we have today with a fantastic book, I want you to just dial our hotline number here at the podcast center, 706-409-5603, and April and Wes Wilburn and I will do our very best to get that industry expert on Towing News Now, which is a great channel and I'm thankful for all of our towing and recovery listeners.
Speaker 1:All right, wes, I'm turning it over to you. This is exciting, it's wonderful, and I hope each and every one of you will think about buying a book, because I'm buying one from Amazon for my grandkids. This is wonderful.
Speaker 3:Thanks, dj Briar. I know the listeners at home got to have this question. What is the name of the book?
Speaker 5:The name of the book is Chuck the Little Tow Truck.
Speaker 3:And tell us more about it.
Speaker 5:It's basically about just a little tow truck. Be stressed to do more. Be like your dad, like all the kids these days are always trying to be like our fathers and stuff, and it just raises the challenge of a can-do spirit. Um, he's, and he knows when to ask for help. He gets it over his head, calls his dad, he knows when to ask for help and he just always wants to grow up and be like his dad, handle the big situations, the bigger jobs, but he's realizing how much he can actually do as a small truck.
Speaker 4:Oh wow, it sounds like you've got a couple of world lessons rolled in there. One is work ethic, which is something I think that a lot of us have to relearn or learn, and two, it's when to ask for help, because sometimes we're not that great at that as human beings.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a great point. It's something that we learn. Sometimes we learn as children, sometimes we don't. So, yeah, it sounds like a lot of thought went into it. So talk to us about the process. You put the thought on paper.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it looks like this book is about 32 pages. It took you one night to write it and months to get the illustration. So you have all that done, the book is completed, and then now we have to think about publishing it. I don't know if that's not the hardest thing to do with this book or not. What do you have to say about that?
Speaker 5:I started working with a publishing company that was a non-for-profit for veterans and he was helping me out. But I didn't find my own distributor, so I went my own route. But they were willing to work with me and help me, but he ended up getting sick. He was a veteran himself. He ended up getting sick and I believe he had passed away, and so I wasn't able to follow through going through with their publishing company.
Speaker 5:And so I ended up just going self-publishing. So I listed my two top self-publishing sites like IngramSpark and then Amazon, kdp, so that allowed my book to be on Amazon and be on Barnes, noble, walmart and stuff like that. They'll be able to get it the library and school, supposedly. I haven't seen much move on the Ingram and Sparks side.
Speaker 4:Well, it sounds like Chuck the Tow Truck was a small truck and was able to do mighty things To me, running up against the wall on this and then saying, okay, now I have to go a different way to get this published to me just identifies your determination when getting this book published.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, I wasn't gonna stop. I wanted this thing to go out. I mean, whether it ends up becoming popular or not, it was still worth doing just because, like I'm the first author in my family, first person to ever publish a book, and just the smiles on the faces of the kids that I've been able to meet and give them the book and sign the book for them, just ends up making everything all worth it.
Speaker 4:It has to be a really good feeling.
Speaker 3:It really is. I understand the book has a strong slow-down, move-over message, trying to teach that to citizens at a younger age. Can you expand on that for us?
Speaker 5:the towing industry to try to get awareness to people to slow down and move over to actually care about us for the split second they're going around us or they have to wait on us or anything else. So I put that in the book to hopefully, when parents read that book to their kids and stuff, they're going to see that, and they're going to sit on the side of the road or whatever.
Speaker 5:I'm hoping that that's a solution in their mind to go ahead and close the wall and move over and give us some space and slow down, because I'm just like every other tow operator we work on the side of the road 99% of the time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a fact and statistics prove that's one of the world's dangerous workplaces. It's unfortunate, but it's a fact.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and to refresh a parent's memory on if something's on the side of the road to slow down and or move over. But then the other thing is that you're reading it to these children who are one, two, five, seven. You know very young children that are already getting that one piece of information that when they're older and they're driving, that that will kick into them and when they see anything on the side of the road a tow truck operator, a construction worker, whomever on the side of the road that they'll see that and say let me make certain I don't hit that. I think it's really important.
Speaker 3:The book is available on Amazon and where else can they buy it? Get it at.
Speaker 5:It's available on Barnes and Noble, and then Walmart has it for sale.
Speaker 4:Wow, that's amazing. If you're into Walmart next time I go in, I'm going to look to see if I can find your book. I'm like DJ I'm going to order this book. I'm going to read it myself first.
Speaker 5:The book is free right now on Kindle. It's going to have Kindle Unlimited, so the book is free right now for e-book.
Speaker 4:Well, don't tell everybody that.
Speaker 5:Let them buy it.
Speaker 4:Let them buy that. We need people to buy this book.
Speaker 3:And support you in what you're trying to do and what you're going to do in the future.
Speaker 4:And a Kindle book for children is great and everything. But you know, the kids love to see the pages turn, they love to see the glossiness of the paper. They love to see the pictures. There is nothing like the experience of having a book in your hands and reading it. These Kindle things, I think, are wonderful, they're phenomenal. But when you're a child there's nothing like having that book.
Speaker 3:Holding it in your lap?
Speaker 5:Yes, At our age, yes. At our generation, yes, but to me I see a lot of kids walking around with tablets and stuff anymore these days.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5:And the book is available. They can read the book right on their tablet they have. That's why I kind of went ahead and went with that program?
Speaker 4:I think it's only available free for another two months, I believe, and that that's probably like a promotional thing that they're doing to get interest in the book, I'm assuming yeah, it was a promotion that I signed up for, just to help get the book going around more.
Speaker 3:And what does the book cost If I dial it up on Amazon right now?
Speaker 5:what's it cost to the paperback version is $10.99 on Amazon, I believe. Free shipping for most places, and then the paperback copy is $18.99.
Speaker 3:The hardback copy is $18.99, yeah, yeah Sounds to me like it'd make a great Christmas gift for those generational families in the towing industry, especially if the young ones are interested in the industry. It also sounds like a great book to maybe have in a waiting room, depending on your operation, you know, if you have a waiting room for auto repair, et cetera.
Speaker 4:Also, it's the first book of a series too. This is the very first one of a series. There's going to be, I'm assuming, at least one more, if not a couple more, of these types of books out there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's the main goal. I really don't want to stop at just one.
Speaker 3:I want to do a couple more.
Speaker 5:See where it goes, what happens.
Speaker 3:And I hope it is successful, because what you're doing by A representing the industry properly, b getting that message about the side of the road, all facets of the world, you know end users along with other rescue personnel, and it's Chuck the Little Tow Truck.
Speaker 1:It's a heartwarming, adventurous picture book that follows Chuck, a brave little tow truck that has a big heart, and your grandchildren and children will love it. But we in the industry would love it most because the illustrations are more realistic than any other book out in the marketplace. So that's the real reason we should be supporting it. It and it's really a great book to raise the that little people can do big projects if they have the help and the direction of assistance of their parents, and this is a great concept, the whole book. He did mr robertson a fantastic job. We as an industry should support him and actually let Amazon know it's a great book Because if he gets 50 people, 50 towing people, 50 people across America, across Europe, that love the book, amazon would promote the book.
Speaker 1:And that is if they write a good review, which is what we need to do, and it only has to be two or three lines. My grandchildren loved it. It was a page turner, and I think the illustrations are phenomenal and God bless these people.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:We know what your positive comments are going to say DJ Well, that's awesome To have a good toe book with illustrations that are correct. And all of a sudden you sit there and you realize you know we don't tow that way, that if that truck is the wrong demonstration, if this one has the proper demonstration but it has such a good story behind it, that little people can do a big job.
Speaker 1:All they have to do is ask their mom and dad and their grandpa how's it? How's it with doing? You did it all of a sudden. Yeah, you got a great book and I tip my hat to Mr Robertson. I'm I'm proud of him. I'm proud of the service he did for our country, but I'm proud of what he's doing for our industry. Thank you, I what he's doing for our industry.
Speaker 3:Thank you, I appreciate that Absolutely, DJ Well said.
Speaker 1:He's a good guy. I think guys like him that help young people become better and that's why the word American. You know he has a can-do attitude. This little tow truck has a real can-do attitude and we in America the last four letters of the word American is I can, and Mr Roberts has an I can attitude and I think all of our listeners. We got a ton of them.
Speaker 3:Like I said in the beginning, one of the differences is that he took action and did something instead of talking about it. Thinking about it.
Speaker 1:So yeah.
Speaker 3:I agree with you. I can.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he does. Most people in the town would have, could have, should have. I should have done that, I would have done this, but Mr Roberts went out and did it and I think we as an industry should support the guy and pass it around to a lot of school teachers. This would be a great book.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and if you're going to take a tow truck to elementary school I've done that many times, we've talked about that this would be a great book to have to donate to the class. Yeah, all right, briar, any closing words? Would you like to share a way to contact you directly?
Speaker 5:I just want to say thank you to everybody and thank you guys for having me on. This was a great experience and a nice pleasure. I loved how much you guys talk about like the problems and the solutions and everything else. I thank you guys.
Speaker 4:You are most, most welcome. We're going to support this venture as much as we can, in any way that we can.
Speaker 3:We need to have you back on in the fall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we can promote them more for the midwest. Yeah, absolutely. And if there's associations that would like to buy a group of books, mr roberts, is there somebody that you could give? Can they email you or something and they would like to buy lots of books and donate oh, absolutely, you guys really to get a look, do you have my number? You can text me and then I can order the books and stuff personally and send them to where they need to go Very good.
Speaker 1:We have a lot of tellers that would love to bring the book to a school, and just not in Indiana, where you are. You could do those local schools around your location. But say the guy in Orlando, florida, that he has a relative that's a school teacher. He could bring his truck over to the school, bring 30 of the books and you know, a lot of times you can tell us how many comes in a case. A lot of times you can tell us how many comes in a case and then they let them buy a whole box of books and bring them to the school, donate them to the school as a tax deduction and put it down as a community involvement.
Speaker 1:And West does so many of those things that make sense. You know, just like your company that does that demonstration at the high school last year. You know your firm up in Indiana they demonstrated a crash. Well, there's a lot of towers listed in the West in April Wilbur that would say wait a minute. This would be a good project for us to do in Orlando, florida, or to do in South Carolina or Alabama. You know I could see a Kevin Goodyear doing something with this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I could too.
Speaker 1:So is there an email address that could email you from Mr Roberts?
Speaker 5:They can just email me. It's robertsbryer91 at gmailcom. All right.
Speaker 4:So, bryer, thank you so much for being on here. We're going to follow this and we're going to promote it with you, and we're excited to see how this is going to grow for you.
Speaker 5:Well, thank you, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3:Well, thank you and good luck with the project and we'll be in touch. And to our listeners, I want to thank everybody. We hit that 20,000 mark. We're really appreciative. We'll be back next week with another great podcast. Thanks for listening and have a great week, Thank you.