(S7Ep1) 2017!

Back for the final season! The writers do a great job of dropping us in, 2 years after Season 6, where we see that Leslie is in a feud with someone who used to be her favorite person! We also find out some cool BTS details, like when/how this aired on original network TV, when they shot this series and some super cool deleted scenes. Check it out to see where the rest of the Parks gang landed in 2017. :) 

Don't forget to rate and review! 

Sources: 

https://web.archive.org/web/20141203195019/http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/12/01/parks-and-recreation-final-season-to-premiere-tuesday-january-13th/334282/

https://www.tvline.com/gallery/parks-and-recreation-series-finale-filming-photos/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3609484/?ref_=tt_ov_ep_nx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks_and_Recreation_season_7

Transcript

Holly Constant (02:16.671)
Okay, so we're in season seven, which is wild, so crazy. This is our last season, amazing. I do have some updates from season six. So we said that the Decembers were in the farm episode of The Office, and I went back and checked because I had a note for myself.

Madi (02:18.882)
We're rolling with the punches today.

Madi (02:34.221)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (02:42.387)
And the actual band, the Decemberists, was not in the episode. They just featured the song. So that is where that discrepancy was.

Holly Constant (02:53.563)
So the song Sons and Daughters, as we learned, like Mike Scherr is a fan of the Decemberist, slash some other crew members were fans as well. So it's when the funeral happens with Dwight, and Dwight's brothers and sisters come in. And it's also when Dwight throws the crow's beak or whatever to the new girl, or not new girl, but new girl, I guess, for season seven, the blonde braided hair girl that's playing the accordion to stop on the beaks to accept the courtship or whatever.

So I'm glad we cleared that up, but I do wanna play, I recorded the clip so that if you guys were familiar with The Office, you'd understand. But if you're not familiar with The Office, you can skip ahead for like 30 seconds. But here's this clip.

Holly Constant (04:14.617)
Anyway, that's it. Do you remember that part now?

Madi (04:19.135)
yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. I know way too much about the office.

Holly Constant (04:21.129)
Okay. Okay, I figured you would, but I wanted to make sure.

Madi (04:28.098)
Give me one second. He is not leaving me alone and he's pulling my chair. I'm sorry. One second. I'll be right back.

Holly Constant (04:31.947)
That's okay. That's okay.

Holly Constant (06:43.615)
Okay. Okay, so the second update that I had was that John Denver did not do Cruel to Be Kind by Letters to Cleo. I for some reason thought that he did, but it was Nick Lowe is his name. And I'm sure people that were listening to that that knew that were screaming at me, but that's okay. So yeah, just as an update to that. And then

Madi (06:45.048)
Okay.

Holly Constant (07:06.347)
The I Want You To Want Me song that with Letters To Cleo did was by Cheap Trick. I really have no idea why I thought all of the songs were John Denver, but they just did a lot of covers and a lot of originals too, of course. But yeah, I just first knew those things from 10 Things I Hate About You. So that's why those songs were first on my mind for Letters To Cleo. So I just want to do an update that factually I was incorrect last time.

And then lastly, we were wondering why Bobby Night Ranger was wearing white wigs, but it's because they're literally cosplaying as Bobby Night. That's why.

Madi (07:39.704)
Yeah, when you texted me that after, I was like, duh.

Holly Constant (07:43.179)
we had a whole like 10 minute conversation when I cut some of it, but I didn't cut all of it because I wanted us to have like, you know, I wanted people it's authentic. We were like, not sure. but yeah, that was that whole thing. they're literally cosplaying as him with their signature red sweater khakis and white wig. Like it was not just because it's an old people thing. It was because of that. And he famously throws chairs in his games, like as coach. So that's why they threw chairs at the end of the concert.

Madi (07:51.736)
Yeah.

Madi (08:03.778)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (08:12.348)
And I was like, my God, that's so silly of me that I did not put that together. So I just needed to update everybody on that.

Madi (08:21.678)
Good info.

Holly Constant (08:23.327)
Okay, so we've got season seven, episode one. The name of the episode is 2017, written by Alan Yang and Matt Murray, directed by Dean Holland. I really don't need to explain this to anyone, but if you are new here, just joining us for season seven, Alan Yang is Chang, of course, from Mouse Rat, a huge backbone of Parks Writers Producers.

He has 9,000 other things, including Loot on Apple TV with Maya Rudolph and Master of None with Aziz Ansari. Also, you know, just as a ton of other things, those are just like the highlights, but that's Alan Yang. It was also written by Matt Murray, who has written four episodes total with Parks. He was a producer for a long run of the show as well. He wrote Article Two, which was Ted Party Day, and Jinn It Up, Prom. This will be his last writing credit for Parks and Rec, so he's not gonna be writing anymore.

for the rest of the show, but he will still be a producer. And he's done a lot of our fave shows. Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Community, like so many more.

Madi (09:20.248)
Yeah, that's great. I've seen his name pop up on, I've been rewatching Brooklyn Nine-Nine right now as like my background show. And I've noticed his name a couple times.

Holly Constant (09:26.967)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (09:31.289)
nice. Yeah, yeah, he's been a lot. And then Dean Holland, of course, is the director and, you know, editor extraordinaire, most famously to me, again, if you're new here from the office, he also edited and directed that because he really helped create the mockumentary style in addition to Greg Daniels and Mike Schur, creating those quick cuts with, you know, such a comedy genre for mockumentary and, of course, produced and edited parks. He's not an editor on this season, but he is a producer and director. And I think

I think he's in the writer's room sometimes, but he's not credited as a writer, as far as I know. If I'm wrong, I'll keep you posted. But yeah, so we've got a great crew coming in for season seven, coming in hot with everybody who is experienced and about to give us a great last season. So yeah, I'm ready for a summary whenever you are.

Madi (10:18.958)
All right. We join our parkas and wreck gang three years later in 2017. Leslie is killing it at her new job. Ben is getting recognized for planning the bicentennial for Pawnee. Tom continues to be a successful entrepreneur. Donna has moved on to focus on her real estate business and much to their dismay, April and Andy have become grownups. Ron has started his own building company and is sitting in a two-year feud with Leslie.

Holly Constant (10:44.873)
Yes. my gosh. So many new things and crazy things in this season.

Madi (10:51.328)
Yeah, there's a lot of, I really love that they jumped forward in the future. I think it gave them a lot of room to be creative. And I have like some comments on like the growth of characters, like have people grown or have they just kind of remained the same over three years because we've seen growth over the seasons, but it's going year by year and now we're seeing a jump. And so it's kind of cool to look at differently.

Holly Constant (11:00.502)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (11:16.395)
Yeah, totally, for sure. I really love that. Yeah, my first notes on this, really, this episode in particular, is that we just are dropped into the show slash story. Like, they don't hold our hand walking us through how we got here, how they got to their different jobs. Like, we did see, obviously, that Leslie has this new job, but we don't know why Ben is in a tux. We don't know why, you know, Ron is in a feud, why Andy has a broken arm. Like, I just love that we...

Madi (11:30.702)
Hmm.

Holly Constant (11:45.003)
figure it out along the way, which is great if you do a time jump. Like there's all this stuff that the audience didn't see. And I like that, you know, we really just dropped in and it is like a documentary because you're not really getting explanations. I mean, they do explain obviously, but like it's in a very subtle way. So I really appreciated that.

Madi (11:47.736)
Mm.

Madi (12:05.516)
I thought that was great as well. And I think there can be really poor writing or as a viewer, you can feel a certain way when they do baby step you through things like that. And so I do like that that was like, especially the feud between Ron and Leslie. Like we don't know for a couple episodes what's going on and that's kind of cool too. And I loved the opening on the elevator because that's how we started and ended the season six finale.

Holly Constant (12:17.579)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (12:25.398)
Yeah.

Madi (12:34.434)
So it was a really nice way to still make it feel comfortable and familiar to us while being thrown in.

Holly Constant (12:40.417)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. We talked about that in the last season where it just picks up right exactly where it left off. Yeah. So now we're in 2017. We left last season in 2014. Ben is in his tux. Leslie's saying she wasn't ready, but that's never stopped us before. And we were left on a cliffhanger because Ben was saying, let's just hear what they have to say. And we're like, who, what, what are you even saying? Side note, some really important BTS for me, which I think is really interesting. These last couple of seasons have been throwing us into it. I did see that part of the reason that

this season was set in the future was due to the fact that Amy was strongly against having to act pregnant or be pregnant in this another season of TV. And I don't think it was all because of that. Like Mike sure said, you know, like when we found articles or when I saw some articles that said that, you know, the time jump was a strategy to keep things fresh. Like we were just talking about. And since last season or they thought it was going to be the last season, they needed to come up with something totally different. And this felt better. However, that being said, I'm sure Amy told Mike

like I don't want to be pregnant because we saw that in the bloopers and we saw that like her talking about like, I don't want to be pregnant on TV anymore. So I'm sure that's how she felt. Plus having after having two kids already. And yeah, I just, think it's more interesting also to see how they are as parents anyway, instead of just like going through the pregnancy and talking about the maternity leave, like when maybe she's not supposed to be there. And we've already seen that before when she's had to take leaves of absences. And then she's like,

Madi (14:01.102)
Hmm

Holly Constant (14:09.597)
you know, coming in anyway. So I think it's more interesting regardless to drop in right here. And it is fun to imagine. Like I could imagine that she would do like 900 scrapbooks and projects. And did she actually sleep during her maternity leave and all these things? But I think it worked out for the best. Right. Exactly. She's probably like government mandated to, but, know, she probably snuck in some stuff or maybe she could like literally couldn't move and she had to sleep. I don't know. I don't know how it went.

Madi (14:23.224)
Yeah.

Did she take maternity leave?

Madi (14:34.114)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (14:39.383)
So that's fun to imagine. Yeah, but I think it was a good choice.

Madi (14:39.574)
Yeah. I know when you have triplets, who knows? Yeah. I love the, I think so too. And I'm glad they respected her wishes, right? Like, you know, don't mess with pregnant women, but it was also really cool. We got to see Anne pregnant. And so we got to already live through a character's pregnancy with them. And so giving us a different view into motherhood is really cool. Like you're saying we're getting dropped into where they're already parents. And so it's really cool to see that, that part of it.

Holly Constant (14:54.743)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (14:59.158)
Mm-hmm.

Mm.

Madi (15:09.174)
And there's things in this season where her kids do show up and it's just so relatable as a parent. So it's cool to grow with the show and now be able to watch it from a different lens. And you're like, yeah, good writing.

Holly Constant (15:22.071)
Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, you can definitely relate to it on a different level now. Yeah, love that. So as we continue relieving the elevator, Leslie says there were rumors that they were going to announce it next month. Something's afoot. Again, we don't the audience doesn't know just like we're talking about, like they just dropped us in here. I feel like they're walking really fast. This is a random side note, but her hair is bouncing and flying around so much. I was like, oh my God, how is she walking so fast?

Madi (15:27.918)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Holly Constant (15:51.527)
And then Ben says he's here, the guy you forbid me from saying and we don't know who that is yet. It's ominous because obviously, you know, if you hadn't seen it before like we have, you're like, what is going on? So that was really good writing too.

Madi (16:08.128)
Mm-hmm. Absolutely. I love all of that.

Holly Constant (16:12.355)
Mm-hmm. Okay, so another BTS moment, which is crazy, is that I was wondering when they shot this, and I could boil this down to one sentence, but I'm not going to. I'm going to take you through my whole journey of researching this. So I was wondering when they shot this and if they went ahead and shot the first episode right after they did the series finale of season six, because everything just looks so similar. Everything looks exactly the same, which is not unheard of.

Madi (16:37.582)
Hmm.

Holly Constant (16:39.145)
Many shows will do that. They'll take a break and then everything looks exactly the same. They're really good at it. But sometimes they'll just do the first two episodes just to get a jump start on it. It could go either way. I also think of, if anyone watches Friends, the in-between moment when Monica and Chandler get married, that's one season finale. And then the next time, everyone else looks the same except for Chandler because he had lost a lot of weight. But everyone else looks...

totally the same, it could have been the same season or same month, whatever, but they took a break. They had a hiatus. just like the costume department and makeup department is so good at making everything look exactly the same except for Chandler because like I said, he had lost a ton of weight and it was very obvious if you watch it back to back now. But anyhow, so I found a few articles that confirmed that the entire season seven was actually shot in 2014 and then aired in 2015.

So they took a little break, but they shot the whole thing that same year that season six was shot, which is totally news to me.

Madi (17:44.515)
Wow.

That's... I wouldn't have guessed that, genuinely. And how exhausting.

Holly Constant (17:49.495)
Yeah, insane. Not luckily, but I mean, it did help that instead of having 22 episodes, they only had 12, I guess 13, I think, with how they aired it or whatever. So that helped. But I hadn't found that confirmation from the producers in my research. I was like, is that real? I don't know. But then I found this article because season six was

Madi (18:01.644)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (18:19.157)
The finale was in April, 2014. So I was like, they could have taken a few months and filmed all the episodes in like the late summer fall, the 12 episodes, even though it's shorter than 22, it still seems like a lot. And it's not unheard of because, you know, networks work insane hours. But I found this article that, like I said, did confirm it. So all 13 episodes were aired in seven weeks and they aired two each week, back to back. So they, that's how production fits.

aired it or like they filmed it all in the same year and then they aired two episodes each week. Production began on August 11, 2014 and ended on December 12, 2014. So they did that in the fall like I thought. Apparently, Parks and Rec initially premiered on NBC's must see TV Thursday night block, which is what they called it. And then the final episodes were moved to Tuesdays.

which was possibly in an attempt to compete with ABC's dramas, which, okay. And the source for the production, actually, I thought this was funny, starting on August 11th was like the actual reason that people know that is because Reda had a Twitter post on, like in the hair and makeup chair, which I thought, I was such a stalker in this episode. Like this was in the archives, okay, for these articles and these posts that I found. But it is interesting, I thought that,

Madi (19:43.47)
Mmm.

Holly Constant (19:47.295)
like I think Donna's character would do that. It just felt like so on brand for the way we found out the production was because of Reda's Twitter. And it was also on a TV source website, like, but I don't think that particular article had been kept in the archives, like it was removed with how long ago it was. So I couldn't read the full article, but Reda's post is still up, which is funny. And by the way, Wikipedia does cite its sources. So that's how I found most of this. Like they put the little, you know,

Madi (19:52.055)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (20:16.935)
numbers and you click on the link and it goes to how it actually was found. So anyway, so there's also last day pictures from Mike Schur, which is where the production end date came into play because it was posted on that certain day and all that kind of stuff. But anyway, so let's see, I also wanted to read a portion of the article that I found and I'm going to post it in the show notes if you guys are interesting.

interested rather it is interesting because you can see like the schedule of tv that they had back in 2014 and like i think that's interesting the tv guide and like what was on at the time and all these kinds of things um but anyhow so the people like the executives wrote something in this article or said something in this article

where it said, Mike Schur and Amy Poehler, along with their incredible producers, cast and crew have given us one of the great television comedies of all time. And we're inordinately proud of Parks and Recreation, said NBC Entertainment chairman Robert Greenblatt. In an effort to give it the send off it deserves, we wanted to eventize, like make it an event, the final season to maximize the impact of these episodes, which really do take the show to a new level.

the highly anticipated one hour finale will air behind the voice in order to lead the largest audience possible into what promises to be a very special hour of television. And if I'm being completely honest, maybe I'm just jaded, but because they're very complimentary in this article and they call it an event, and I just feel like that's like a producer's way of pushing them out. Like it just seems rushed to air all.

Madi (21:45.24)
I love you.

Madi (21:51.115)
or

Holly Constant (21:52.393)
of these episodes in seven weeks. Like, I feel like there were other things at play, which, mean, this is above my pay grade, so maybe I'm completely off the mark. But I feel like there were other things and other shows, like The Voice, that needed to have more air time. So like, it was like, let's just air this all so that the next, the new, like, string of shows can come in.

Madi (21:55.715)
Yeah.

Madi (22:11.278)
Mmm.

I can see that. I can see that.

Holly Constant (22:14.453)
I mean, I don't think the executives were into it. do think that I don't think the executives were like mad about Parks and Rec, you know, whatever the it was getting viewership, I think. But still, I was like, why? Why are we rushing this? Why are you doing back to back episodes that don't even go together? That's weird. But they again, they wanted they are calling it a comedy event. So that's how they branded it, which, again, above my pay grade. But I don't like that.

Madi (22:31.553)
Yeah.

Madi (22:44.192)
Yeah, no, that's interesting. And I honestly, I was watching this show live by this point for sure. Cause we were watching it live in college and I don't remember them coming out two at a time. I don't know, was I, I don't think we had, I didn't have cable in Boston. So like, I'm wondering how I was watching it. Did I wait for the entire series to come out and then watch it on Netflix or cause Peacock wasn't a thing yet.

Holly Constant (22:50.199)
Hmm.

Holly Constant (23:00.044)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (23:07.113)
Right. think Hulu was though, and I think Hulu, you could watch it the next day. Like they didn't have the same subscription slash original shows as they do now, but I think Hulu, I remember doing that. Like the next day you could watch it or like maybe it was the next week you had to wait. Hulu didn't used to be as fast as it is now. But yeah, don't personally, I don't remember watching Parks live in college. I don't remember. I remember watching the office live in college and I had a little antenna.

Madi (23:13.73)
Maybe that's what it was.

Holly Constant (23:34.903)
because I didn't have cable, but I had a TV antenna. So I don't remember watching Parks, to be honest with you. Maybe I did, but I don't know.

But yeah, it says in my research, I found that critics weren't super happy about that either because they were like Thursday was NBC's comedy hour. Like that was when it was supposed to be set for comedy. And this Tuesday situation that they moved Parks to like wasn't it because Parks was surrounded by 30 Rock, Community, The Office, like that was the lineup.

with parks involved. And maybe it did get more views because the voice was right before it and people kept their TVs on, which is a very like big strategy in TV stuff, TV views and things like that. But it was also like, what? Like, I don't know. But it is interesting too to think of how TV really shapes our culture.

because I was also doing some research on, I don't know if you remember this, but they used to have in the 90s, so you might have been in China, I don't know, but they used to have a TGIF for ABC, and it was like 90s, early 2000s, and it was this whole branded thing of like, yes, we said TGIF before, but they made this TGIF like a really big cultural movement to where it was like all your favorite shows. was like, and it was all these like really wholesome shows too. was like.

Boy Meets World, Family Matters, Sabrina the Teenage Witch. So you really got that like, thank God it's Friday kind of vibe and like I'm gonna watch all my favorite wholesome TV shows now. And I think that's just really interesting how TV really shifts our mindset around the way we live our lives.

Madi (25:18.444)
Yeah, absolutely. love, I miss Boy Meets World.

Holly Constant (25:21.559)
I know, me too, me too. I rewatched it, like, I don't know, a couple years ago. Kourtney is actually kind of an ass.

Madi (25:29.794)
Yeah, I feel like this happens a lot. Yeah, when you rewatch shows sometimes, like...

Holly Constant (25:30.615)
It's wild when you re-watch it. Yeah, it has happened a lot. Like in 90s and 2000 shows, like the dudes that you thought were like the hero are like kind of dicks.

Madi (25:43.562)
Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, where was our headspace back then that this was the guy we were cheering for?

Holly Constant (25:45.451)
Yeah.

my god.

I still love Boy Meets World and I still think it's really funny. And I think what's his face Ben Savage who plays that character is super funny. But yeah, and the writing was great for it being a teenage show, I feel. I personally think. But yeah, some of that I was like, Cory, why are you touching ass to your parents? You have everything handed to you. Like, shut up. But his love for Topanga is really special. So that's nice, too.

Madi (26:07.266)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (26:14.008)
Yeah.

Madi (26:18.718)
Yeah, yeah, and I loved Topanga.

Holly Constant (26:21.239)
Me too. Also in that article that I found about Parks and Rec being aired was, you know, all the time slots for TV shows that I was talking about. And Nashville, the TV show, was playing on ABC the same time Parks was. So that's insane to me. So that started, Nashville started in 2012 and ended in 2018. Like it blows my mind that Parks was happening at the same time as Nashville, because I do not remember watching those at the same time. I remember watching

Madi (26:37.069)
Wow.

Madi (26:46.445)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (26:49.843)
Nashville in LA a little bit. And then I watched it when I actually lived in Nashville, like the last season, think. Yeah, which makes sense if it ended in 2018. Yeah, I don't know. That was so wild to learn that because it just doesn't seem like the same era to me at all. But it was.

Madi (26:53.934)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (27:06.124)
Yeah.

Madi (27:10.914)
Yeah, all depends on like when you chose to start watching things, right? Yeah, crazy.

Holly Constant (27:15.745)
Yep, totally. But yeah, so I just don't remember watching Parks at this time. Maybe it was because it was rushed and it just, didn't pay as much attention. I actually don't know. I'd love to hear if people did watch it in real time and remember this or remember it being back to back episodes like on actual TV network television at the specific time, like what they thought about it. And yeah, I guess if you brand it that way where it is an event,

Madi (27:23.054)
Mm.

Holly Constant (27:44.523)
then it doesn't matter if the episodes go together at all. So it's more like a movie or like a drive-in theater where you just watch random things back to back and it's just like you're here for the ride. But to me as a fan, was like, that's weird. I'd rather just stay with the comedy people and like, or comedy shows and just get its due end but.

Madi (27:55.342)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (28:10.421)
That's how they thought that they did it. And I don't, again, it's above my pay grade. So if Mike sure hears this, let me know how you guys felt about it. Cause I would love to know.

Madi (28:18.7)
Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (28:20.929)
So yeah, very interesting that this was all shot in 2014 and it just all, like they had it all edited and everything so that it could just come out in January of 2015. So yeah, I mean, I guess maybe the other actors were moving on to other things by the time they got done too. So maybe it was a good thing for them, who knows.

Okay.

Madi (28:43.298)
Yeah, well, and Mike sure had Brooklyn Nine-Nine already going too, so.

Holly Constant (28:46.271)
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Okay, so now we're in the city council chambers. Trevor Nelson is back, yay. Mark Evan Jackson is that actor's name. He is legal counsel to the Newport family and Jessica Wicks, the actress Susan Yeagley is back as well. They do this in seasons where it's the last season, they bring back all the guest stars and we got a ton. We thought we were done because we thought that last season was the last one.

But they're bringing back even more people, which is crazy.

Madi (29:20.642)
I love that they do that.

Holly Constant (34:02.135)
Okay. Okay. That's okay.

Holly Constant (36:26.103)
Alright, so the Newport Trust is selling a 25 square mile parcel containing Lake Eagleton and southern Indiana foothills and she just wants to sell because of the money when Ben asks why now. And she says it's time to trade those dumb old trees for a buttload of cash and in Trevor Nelson's monotone deadpan that's really funny.

Madi (36:46.538)
It hits so much better coming from him than her. So that was just great writing.

Holly Constant (36:50.005)
Definitely. Yeah, and Leslie wants to make it into a national park. And it's really a great idea. And she has this line where she says that she would go to law school with her one day off because she was talking about like when she retires. my God, Leslie. Yeah. So there's a bid that's going to happen tomorrow.

Madi (37:06.466)
I don't think she's going to retire.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (37:13.367)
And that is how they'll decide who is going to get this land. They all have to bid for it. So the person that Ben earlier mentioned that we didn't want to bring up is coming over and she doesn't want to talk to this person. There's panic. There's like anxiety, like she gets angry, all these things. And then, my gosh, surprise, like jump attack. It's Ron, gasp.

Madi (37:36.507)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I think it's...

Holly Constant (37:37.759)
So sad to see them on opposite sides, literally, of the aisles here. Like, she is literally on one side of where the chairs are, and he's on the other, and there's an aisle between them. Ugh. So sad.

Madi (37:42.094)
Mmm.

Madi (37:48.654)
Yeah, it's surprising but also not at the same time. You're like, who has she gotten in the most fights with over all the seasons? She and Ron don't align a lot in how they think. So that's the part that's not surprising. The part that is surprising is that they didn't work it out because they've always been able to respect that each other has a different stance and keep their friendship going. And so you sit there as the audience and you're like, what the hell could have happened?

that they're not talking anymore.

Holly Constant (38:19.447)
Totally. Yeah, like something insane must have gone on and she mentions a lot of different things that could have gone on that again, we're just kind of jump scared into it almost like we're dropped in so we don't really know what's happening. But something crazy like you said had to have happened. Yeah, so we're just like as the audience like, oh my god, what?

Madi (38:39.66)
Yeah. And they're referencing it by name, which almost kind of helps the audience stay with you while not having, sorry, not having any more information to go off of.

Holly Constant (38:42.571)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (38:46.785)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (38:50.751)
Yeah, totally. So Ron says he left the Parks Department two years ago and now he runs his own building and development company, which on the surface level, I'm really happy for him. I think it's great that he's doing something that he actually likes. He looks happy in that little like montage moment of him doing something he loves. He's good at it. We know he's good. He's good at this. It's called Very Good Building and Development Company because he wanted people to just be aware of what they do and the services they provide. Really easy. Love that.

Madi (39:17.262)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (39:19.443)
But yeah, underneath the surface, I'm like, but Ron left the parks apartment? Like what? And again, like you said, it's not really surprising because he's not, he's not really into the parks apartment, but he stayed for a really long time. So what could have made him leave? You know? and yeah. And so. Yeah. And if you start to piece together, if you've been in therapy and all these things, you start to see like, he stayed really because of the people and the people seem to be splitting up. like.

Madi (39:28.291)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (39:44.558)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (39:48.139)
Because, and even if you're not in therapy, but you've just worked jobs, you really, a lot of the times, quit the people or stay for the people, not the actual job itself. So this is starting to add up if you really think deeply about it, but also we have the bias of knowing how this ends. so at surface level and at face value, you're like, what is happening? So again, very good with the writers doing that.

Madi (39:55.81)
Mm, yeah. That's so true.

Madi (40:06.563)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (40:15.351)
And then we learned that his company is involved with one of the bitters like my god He's working with the enemy. So even more of a slap in the face grizzle like absolutely not hate this Because it's everything that Ron hates everything. He is so against and stands against, you know

Madi (40:16.418)
Yeah.

Madi (40:25.346)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Madi (40:33.25)
Yeah, which doesn't align with who we know Ron is because typically he wouldn't stand by something that he's not for. Like you remember all those letters he wrote on the typewriter to like frozen yogurt and Canada and it's just like, what are you doing Ron?

Holly Constant (40:41.185)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (40:44.481)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (40:50.997)
Yeah, yeah. And so right now you're just like, okay, well, he must be in it because his company is building something that he's, that is what he'll stand by is the building. But the actual moral of the company, yes, is very strange. And we still don't know why he's doing this. So totally makes sense. And slash is really impressive for the writers to keep us on our toes for season seven. Because at this point, we're like, what? Got to shake it up somehow.

Madi (41:00.316)
Mm, building.

Madi (41:13.56)
Yeah.

Madi (41:17.888)
Yeah, yeah, which I don't know if you would have been able to do without that three year jump.

Holly Constant (41:19.093)
And then Blake.

Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. So again, proving the point that that time jump was really beneficial. And then Blake Anderson is back. He is the actor who plays the character name of Mike Bean, which I'm just calling the grizzle guy. And I don't know if we ever actually say his name on the show like Mike Bean, but he's the one who got beaten got got by Ben at Cones of Dunshire.

Madi (41:29.485)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (41:46.999)
And he hired Ron's company to help plan and build the Grizzle campus, which is what they're bidding for, which is gross. And then he says Norm Core, which is also gross, because I'm like, get out of here with that nonsense making up language, okay? Get out of here.

Madi (41:47.628)
Yes.

Madi (42:01.79)
Yeah, I couldn't I couldn't I love how he delivers it, but I also can't stand the hell. Yeah, Pamp.

Holly Constant (42:09.627)
my gosh, I know. He is so good at it. He's so good at it. At playing this like douchey tech bro. Yes. So good.

Madi (42:17.966)
Yeah, very well done. I also love the yes, this land has good sky

Holly Constant (42:23.895)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's holding on to the most basic things I feel.

Madi (42:27.438)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely.

Holly Constant (42:32.535)
So this is when they bring up Morningstar. Like you said, they name it by name, which apparently happened two years ago. Again, the audience isn't in on this yet, but two years ago is when he left the Parks Department. So something happened when he left. And we still don't know why, but Morningham has something to do, Morningham, Morningstar has something to do with it. Yes, I'm thinking of Jon Hamm, who is here again, which I thought he was fired, which they do mention, but so funny. If anyone needs me, I'll be at Subway.

Madi (42:49.486)
Yeah, you're thinking of Jon Hamm.

Yes! Yeah.

Holly Constant (43:02.209)
He's very stupid.

Madi (43:03.406)
Very weird place to choose to hang out to invite people to go to with you.

Holly Constant (43:07.319)
Love that. Yes. Oh my gosh. Yes, I love that. That's so funny. So they actually just interviewed Jon Hamm. Amy Poehler just interviewed Jon Hamm on Good to Hang, the podcast, and it was really a great episode and interview. He credited Tina Fey actually with kind of letting him do comedy slash opening up people's minds to him doing comedy because he was on Mad Men. so when they did SNL, it all kind of came from there where Tina Fey asked to put him in 30 Rock.

Madi (43:14.595)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (43:36.887)
So he was doing 30 Rock at the same, and 30 Rock and Parks and Rec were happening at the same time. And so I think he was really like gracious to Tina for letting him kind of explore that part of it, because he likes comedy a lot and he wants to do comedy more, but with Mad Men, not many people are casting you as a comedic person when it was so dramatic, you know? So that's really cute that he said that.

Madi (43:55.016)
definitely not. And he's really made a name for himself in SNL too because they brought him in with the 50 year anniversary stuff a lot. so yeah, it's really cool because he is funny.

Holly Constant (44:05.824)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (44:10.655)
Yeah, he's so funny and doesn't take himself seriously at all, which I really love. And he's in a new Apple TV show, which again is also very dramatic. And I'm like, my God, this is hilarious that you can do both so well.

Madi (44:23.19)
Yeah, that's such a skill. And I love that we're getting to see Steve Carell do the same thing, but he did the reverse, right? He went from comedy to drama and just the talent of people being able to do both.

Holly Constant (44:27.137)
Totally.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (44:33.609)
Yeah, totally. And now he's back in the comedy world with Rooster on HBO, which is really funny. So anyhow, Andy comes in and says he dropped, well, we're at April and Andy's house now. And he comes in and says he dropped all three of the kids off at Leslie's mom's, all three of them. What a shock. like, shouldn't you be proud of him for doing all three of the kids? And now we see this new 2017 tech we were talking about the last season and that in real life has not really made it here with the hologram.

Madi (44:37.356)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (45:03.489)
phones, which could make it here. I'm surprised we haven't, honestly.

Madi (45:08.116)
Yeah, I'm okay with it though after the thing later in the show when it says I want your skin. Okay, we're not ready

Holly Constant (45:14.231)
Oh my God. Yeah, no, which we're in the midst of that now. Crazy how evergreen that is, AI and technology. Insane. So April is dressed up for some reason. She's in this very nice dress and this is where Andy has a broken arm, which is more believable, like the audience doesn't need a reason. Like I said, we were dropped in. We don't really know why, but like this is more believable. Like of course he probably, he did something like, come on, you know, we don't really need a reason.

Madi (45:21.26)
huh. Absolutely.

Madi (45:34.403)
Yeah

Madi (45:40.632)
It's kind of cool that we started the whole show with him having a broken leg and now we're ending the show with a broken arm. So it's just quintessential Andy.

Holly Constant (45:47.543)
yeah. That's so funny. Yes, absolutely. Great point. And then yeah, this is where we see, like you said in your summary, that April has really grown up. She's on top of their schedule. She seems grown up. She's speaking very like organized and she knows what's going on. She has the schedule. They have to sign the insurance renters forms.

Insane and then we also see Johnny karate super awesome musical explosion show for the first time Which honestly is such a great idea for a PBS local cable show like that's so good What a brilliant I would love to I don't think they really dive into how he got this show But I'd kind of like to see who asked him to do that. Maybe it was Joan or something, but I think it's a great idea

Madi (46:18.19)
So awesome.

Madi (46:27.872)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (46:33.6)
I agree. And you know, he made such a name for himself as Johnny Karate through all the birthdays that it made sense that he had an audience already and it just so fits his love for music, but also his childish personality and behavior.

Holly Constant (46:38.325)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (46:47.963)
Yeah, yeah, totally. That's true. He did kind of make a name for himself. So maybe someone at the party was a parent who like worked at the Pawnee Access show or something like that. That makes sense. And I really think it's funny that instead of saying like, stop hitting Jerry, he just says three kicks each, like left, you know what I mean? That's brilliant. Don't stop. Just limit it. Yeah.

Madi (47:06.444)
Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Like validating they can do that. Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (47:14.031)
so now Leslie is talking to Jessica about how to, like, she wants to get an idea of how much this land is going to sell for. They're outside of the city council moment and she says $90 million. Are you being serious? That is truly insane.

Madi (47:29.496)
I want to know because what did he say? He said a quarter of a square mile or something. I wish I knew how much land that was because 90 million seems like a

Holly Constant (47:37.943)
He said 25 square miles.

Madi (47:41.39)
25 square miles. Okay, I don't know why I thought a quarter.

Holly Constant (47:43.467)
which I don't know why it's like that instead of saying acreage, because I don't know how much miles per acre it is, but I mean, to be a national park, I'm assuming it's really a huge area.

Madi (47:47.79)
Right.

Madi (47:58.062)
Yeah, I'm googling it right now because I really care to actually know this. 25 square miles in acres.

Holly Constant (48:02.442)
Yeah.

Madi (48:13.542)
16,000 acres.

Holly Constant (48:15.845)
damn. Okay, so yeah. So yeah, makes more sense. However, 90 million is still a lot. Damn.

Madi (48:25.09)
Yeah, it's insane.

Holly Constant (48:26.165)
That's crazy. And yeah, I guess this Newport Foundation just has this land. what, where, why? How have we not heard about this much land? But again, it's the Newports and they're rich. So I'm sure that that's like, that's common. That's fine. But Leslie asks for a discount for the National Parks Department. And there's no way she will give a discount because she's in a bind between money and Leslie. Super tough decision.

Madi (48:37.783)
Yeah, it's just sitting there.

Holly Constant (48:54.367)
Obviously it's sarcastic, but I was like, my God, Jessica wakes. You're on my last nerve.

Madi (48:56.632)
Yeah.

Madi (49:01.004)
I just loved it, like Leslie, but under her breath, she's like, yeah, you really haven't though. Like when she's like, I've always liked you. She's like, you haven't though.

Holly Constant (49:06.806)
Yeah.

Right, totally. Yeah, and I like the line, like, thank you, Jessica, you did and said exactly what I thought you were gonna do and say. Yep, predictable. And somehow that's oddly comforting.

Madi (49:17.708)
Yeah. Yeah. This is an example to me of, yeah, it is oddly comforting. I think that's an example of like, we have some people who, you know, may be in different places in their life three years later, but they're kind of just the same people, you know? So.

Holly Constant (49:33.001)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, being a rich white lady will do that a lot of the times.

Madi (49:38.134)
Yeah. Why should you change? In their heads.

Holly Constant (49:41.239)
So, yeah. So now we're at Tom's Bistro. There's an interviewer there. Tom is being super douchey, feet on the table, glammed-out jacket, trying to be deep and inspirational. And this interviewer is so funny. Like, I really just need a correct spelling of your last name when Tom is going on this tangent.

Madi (50:01.556)
Yes. He's one that stuck out to me with this and then how he handles the speech here in a couple of minutes. But he really highlighted to me like he is successful. He has made something of himself. He's continued to grow in his career, but he's still the same self-centered Tom that we've known for six seasons so far. And it's like, bro, you couldn't have like elevated yourself a little bit.

Holly Constant (50:21.045)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (50:27.913)
Yeah, he hasn't super grown emotionally in this moment. I feel like he shows bits and pieces of it, but not right now at all.

So this interviewer is played by Helen Hong and her character name is Janet trungle love that She's been in so many things since doing this. my gosh Silicon Valley inside Lewin Davis with Oscar I Oscar Isaac, which is great movie She wasn't an episode of new girl, which was technically around the same time but still thought worth mentioning And then she was in sex lives of college girls, which is an amazing show Mindy Kaling

Madi (50:39.672)
Correct.

Holly Constant (51:05.527)
And then she was also in the movie if I had legs I'd kick you which is with Rose Byrne and she was nominated for an Oscar So she's got an Oscar movie in her bucket list actor life. She's also a comedian So she if you follow her on Instagram, she has a lot of like stand-up Clips and things like that and then six episodes of Thundermans under cover on Nickelodeon I feel like there's a couple people on the Thundermans from Parks I can't remember who exactly it was but there's another person from Parks on there and I know

Dexheart, Kevin Simons, was also, I don't think it was a Thundermans or maybe it was, but it was another Nickelodeon show that was really popular that he was in too. So that's fun to kind of see them bounce around. And she's also a writer and producer, which I really love and has, like I said, she has a comedy special, so definitely check that out.

Madi (51:48.267)
Yeah, very interesting.

Holly Constant (52:02.199)
Okay, so Tom got in the magazine for Indiana Monthly in the article 35 under 35, which is a very real thing, like with Forbes and Vanity Fair, all that kind of stuff. And I'm sure states do have those types of articles to keep it local. That would make sense.

And yeah, it's cool info that he now owns Tom's Bistro, two fast casual eateries, and the Tommy Chopper chopped salads out of a decommissioned helicopter, which is hilarious. But that's something he's always wanted. So like you said, he is successful and he is a mogul now. And that's something that is really cool to see because that's something that we as the audience have been waiting for that to happen. We've been rooting for him. So I do love seeing that.

Madi (52:46.016)
Agreed. Yeah, we've definitely been cheering for him to be successful at Tom's Brestrow and to find his path that'll get him somewhere. So it is really cool to see.

Holly Constant (52:56.445)
Mm-hmm. So Tom says the Chamber of Commerce asked him to introduce Ben at a fancy black tie gala, which you've which you know finally explains why Ben is in this tux. I was wondering why he's in the tux so early though. I feel like he had plenty of time to get dressed before all of this stuff happened, but that's fine. Maybe he was just nervous and wanted to get it over with. I don't know.

Madi (53:10.178)
Yeah.

Madi (53:17.046)
Yeah. I think he probably was nervous because he even mentions Ice Town, right? He's like, this is the biggest thing I've done since Ice Town or whatever. And so he's like, he might be really nervous, just be like, I got to be ready.

Holly Constant (53:22.549)
Mm-hmm.

I know. Yeah.

Yeah, he still has a lot of trauma. And then he thinks that this might be a prank from the I Sound People. my god. And they do that with Ben's character quite a bit, where he has a talking head and then he's like, realizing maybe something else is happening. I had a flashback to when he was talking about Big Ben, where he was like, man, this guy just loved me. he might have hated me. He really needs to talk it out to get to the idea that is really in his mind.

Madi (53:46.05)
Yeah.

Madi (53:52.47)
Yes. Yeah.

Holly Constant (53:57.035)
But yeah, just like, Ven says to keep the intro brief and I was like, yeah, right. Like there's no way for Tom to do that. Like set your expectations. But I guess I understand why Ven at least has to ask, you know?

Madi (54:06.488)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Holly Constant (54:10.295)
And I really want to punch Tom in the face when he says write down that I'm funny. I was like, Tom, get your fucking shit together,

Madi (54:13.677)
I

Madi (54:18.464)
It's, it... Yeah, because even when we find out why he does what he does for the speech, I'm still like, there's little things like that though that show me you haven't changed, you know?

Holly Constant (54:28.161)
grow up.

Yeah. my God. He just cannot get enough of the attention and like the insecurity that he feels like to I know it's going really deep to, you know, there applies him. But yeah, I was just like, my God. And I don't know if it's maybe it's not the insecurity. Maybe it's just him being cocky, which in a lot of ways he deserves for it in certain times. But when he says like, I'm amazing at being humble, I know that's a funny line. But I'm just like, my God, Tom, you've got to get out of here right now. I cannot handle it.

Madi (54:38.52)
Yeah.

Madi (54:59.982)
barf was how I felt.

Holly Constant (55:01.143)
Yes, exactly. Oh my god. And yeah.

Madi (55:04.974)
I think you're right with the insecurity though. I think there's this piece of him that knows that it could crash and burn at any moment. Kind of like he lost Tommy's, or I was going to call it Tommy's closet, run to swag. He did. That may be, that's why he's like, I've got to do all these interviews and look really cool while I still have everything. But again, doesn't validate or excuse the behavior.

Holly Constant (55:14.327)
That's true.

Holly Constant (55:17.939)
Yeah, I mean, he lost it to that. Yep.

Holly Constant (55:29.237)
Yeah.

Right. But how fun to be this reporter though. She doesn't have to do much, just be on set with these fools. Like so funny. my gosh, she did a great job I thought, which was hilarious. And there is a deleted scene with the reporter and it's later on at the gala, but I was gonna go ahead and play it now just because it's talking about this reporter. But John Ralphio is actually in there and he rolls up in a wheelchair, which comes back later.

Madi (55:56.174)
Yes.

Holly Constant (55:58.583)
in the season, which is hilarious. And his hair is insane. Like the biggest I've ever seen it. He has blonde highlights. I took a picture and I'll post it in the stories. It's like massive. And yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and play that scene.

Holly Constant (57:33.321)
which again, they bring back that cappuccino thing. They're just bringing back all the things that Tom has ever done before. Iconic. But yeah, so I had to play that for a number of reasons. First of all, for John Ralphio, but secondly, because of Helen Hong being in that, you know, the cut scene, which I always do if you're new here. If your scene was cut, I'm going to play it for you because the actors still worked really hard and booked that role. And I am glad that at least she got to stay in the episode with the one that we just heard before this deleted scene.

Madi (57:36.703)
Yep, iconic.

Madi (57:42.894)
until

Madi (57:48.865)
you

Holly Constant (58:02.593)
So that's good, because some actors don't get their scenes in there at all. But yeah, really crazy. I don't even know why John Ralphio is in the wheelchair. There's no plate. You can't skip the line at this gala anywhere. And then he stands up. And it's like, my god, you're insane. But it's fine. Yeah.

Madi (58:07.512)
Yeah, definitely.

Madi (58:15.691)
Yeah.

Yeah, why are you even doing this? my gosh. He's probably just waiting to see what he could get for free because of it.

Holly Constant (58:24.455)
Yeah, maybe that's it or like better seating. I don't know who fucking knows, but you're stupid and that's dumb. So Ben is being honored. go ahead.

Madi (58:29.454)
The other part of that scene that I was just gonna say the other part of this scene that sticks out to me is that when asked why don't you want Tom to introduce you, Ben backtracks and saves Tom's image. it's like, Ben gives you so much more respect and care than you care to give him. And it's just so, yeah.

Holly Constant (58:45.376)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (58:54.164)
Yeah.

Madi (58:58.028)
I have so many feelings about it.

Holly Constant (58:58.077)
Yeah, and I know, and you can see it, Tom does have a look. Obviously you can't see it in the audio, but Tom does have a look when she asks that. He's like, my gosh, no, like don't say anything. And then that's when Ben is like, okay, well, Tom's great, it's fine, whatever. So Tom knows he's being an ass.

Madi (59:12.558)
Hmm.

Madi (59:19.372)
Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (59:20.759)
But anyway, yeah. So Ben is being honored because he's in charge of the Pawnee Bicentennial Celebration, which I think is a really interesting detail here. Biggest accomplishment since Ice Town, he says. Like we talked about, he still has trauma about that, which is really sad. And then we've got.

Madi (59:39.438)
I wonder how he got this, I just wonder how he got this role when he's not working for the government anymore. Or at least it sounds like he's not working for the government anymore. Is he? I can't remember.

Holly Constant (59:50.166)
I thought it was still the Chris Trigger's job.

Madi (59:54.755)
we could be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For some reason I thought, okay. Yeah. Okay. Cool.

Holly Constant (59:55.893)
Yeah, I think he still is. Yeah, because I don't think he's working in Leslie's department. He's still like the city, not the mayor, but the city manager.

Madi (01:00:07.318)
Right. OK.

Holly Constant (01:00:08.15)
Yeah.

And then, yeah, so we see Andy and April are really adulting. my gosh, this was really interesting to see, because we've never seen them have this conversation before, where they're having plans, production meetings, talking about when to start the slow cooker. Like, my lord. Which, by the way, I do love a slow cooker, but she is right. Like, you do have to plan when you're going to put it in there. If you want to do it before work, like getting up early to chop everything, or you chop everything the night before, or whatever the fuck. Like, you do have to plan that. So,

Madi (01:00:35.938)
Yep.

Holly Constant (01:00:39.745)
It is annoying and I know that that's like a really privileged thing to say, but I'm just saying that like there's a lot of planning that goes into everything they're talking about, including this.

Madi (01:00:40.11)
Yeah.

Madi (01:00:51.872)
Absolutely. Yep, adulting, man. They're just as simple as you can try to make it. There's still stuff you got to do.

Holly Constant (01:00:58.259)
I know. And I love that they're having dinner with Donna and Joe. That's a cute little tidbit. And that Andy even remembered that they were doing that, you know?

Madi (01:01:07.385)
yeah, that's huge. I think we see a lot of growth in Andy and April here and it's really beautiful. I know that they don't like it, but I think when you watch them go to look at this house, their true personalities and who they are are still there. They just have grown to be able to support themselves so they're not eating out of Frisbees, which is really exciting for all of us.

Holly Constant (01:01:25.789)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, and I do love, that's a good idea that Andy has for a weekend moment, honestly. Like, the farmers market, watch a movie, Jason Bourne is supposed to be pretty good, the new one. I do love Pratt's performance here, like just rattling off the list, kind of robotic, just kind of going through the motions, which is what happens a lot of the times. And I think it's really realistic.

Madi (01:01:50.508)
Yep, it definitely is. And I think it ages well with those of us that were feeling more like the Andy April responsibility of life in the beginning of the series and now are like getting towards the area where we have to buckle down and be adults.

Holly Constant (01:01:50.549)
And then.

Holly Constant (01:02:00.951)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (01:02:07.977)
Yeah, totally. And you do kind of like fall into it sometimes, like just day by day. And that's why April ends up screaming. And I love that Andy does his little karate hands like there might be an attacker somewhere because April's freaking out. But April has this realization that it kind of just happened to them. They didn't plan to be adults. just like day by day, you have to do stuff.

live your life and grow up and handle things as you age. And so this is the time when she's noticing it and really actually like being aware of it, which is not always the case. A lot of times you just kind of fall into your routine and yeah, she's realizing in real time that they're not 19 anymore. You know what I mean? And she, this is where we find out that.

Madi (01:02:31.758)
Mm.

Madi (01:02:52.248)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:02:54.037)
He sprained his shoulder cleaning out the gutters, which is good to know, figuring out the details along the way, just the writers putting that in there because life happened and now we're understanding why. But it's really funny to me that he, like all of his other injuries have been for all these, which is again, proving the growth because all of his other injuries have been kind of chaotic and childish. And this one is like.

a real thing you had to do. You've got to clean those gutters, You're going to get damaged to your home if you don't. So it is really interesting. And I don't think they're boring. I think all this stuff sounds fun, like the farmers market and stuff. But I do get what she's saying. You get in the routine, and it doesn't seem exciting, especially when you're comparing it to how they used to live.

Madi (01:03:25.24)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (01:03:29.866)
Yeah. Yeah, agreed.

Madi (01:03:36.492)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:03:42.549)
But that's to me also, like, have they traveled anywhere? I feel like they need to go somewhere, because that's for me what breaks up the monotony. But for them, that's why the house, think, comes into play, because then they can kind of find that balance a little bit more with how to handle all of this. But still have the adulting and excitement, you know?

Madi (01:03:43.918)
Mm.

Yeah.

Madi (01:03:58.475)
Yeah, absolutely.

Madi (01:04:03.596)
Yeah, I think it's the spontaneity too, like she, she mentions, like every, everything might be fun, but it's planned and in a schedule and they used to just drive to the Grand Canyon. So different.

Holly Constant (01:04:07.51)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:04:15.445)
Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. And April, it's funny because April still wants to do the slow cooker. And I think that's great. I think that's okay. But again, it's like balance, baby girl. Like we just haven't found the balance because it's fine that you'd still want to do the plan stuff. But yeah, you're right. The spontaneity is like, and that's what travel is for me. think not spontaneous travel because you do have to plan for that too. But like once you're there, you can actually like just break up that monotony. So yeah, I think this is.

one of my fave parts probably of this episode because it is such a relationship writing, you know what I mean? So you really see them work through this together, which is something they're really good at, and you see them be different people but still at the core, at the root, they're the same, you know? It's nice.

Madi (01:05:02.434)
Yeah, absolutely. I love that.

Holly Constant (01:05:06.455)
Say you, Leslie now is at the gala talking to her workers about calling everyone in DC, calling every favor we have to get the Jessica wick slash Newport house. 36 hours to find $90 million. Oh girl, girl.

Madi (01:05:20.13)
Yeah, I love that she's delegating now.

Holly Constant (01:05:23.029)
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, she has to. She can't. She doesn't. She's out of ideas. She made the Thomas Jefferson sexier in the Mount Rushmore promos. Attendance has been up. That is not a coincidence. I love that.

Madi (01:05:27.19)
Yeah. Yeah. So, so true.

Madi (01:05:36.078)
But also how? I want to see the backstory on that. How did she do that?

Holly Constant (01:05:42.451)
I know, I'm imagining Thomas Jefferson having like more carved cheekbones or something and like eyelashes. I don't know.

Madi (01:05:50.35)
Or did they give him muscles in a six-pack underneath his head?

Holly Constant (01:05:55.189)
my god, maybe. This is hilarious. I really like her dress here, too. It's very formal, very cute. I like it a lot.

Madi (01:05:57.548)
I can't.

Madi (01:06:03.318)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely.

Holly Constant (01:06:04.807)
And I like that she says the tuxedo makes you look like a sexy orchestra conductor. Wave this pen around. She still hasn't lost that. That's funny.

Madi (01:06:11.214)
She always gets distracted and like turned on. Yeah, yeah, she gets turned on by these like very interesting and very unique like little things.

Holly Constant (01:06:22.185)
Yes, yes, exactly. Yes, then she has this line, which, boy, it's so funny, but it's kind of sad with our current state of times where she says, have the most valuable currency in America, a blind stubborn belief that what I am doing is 100 % right. And at least it's, I mean, at least in her case, it's for a national park, which is really good. So, I mean, I'll take it.

Madi (01:06:44.462)
Agreed. And I also took it as like her kind of calling out like one of her, not necessarily a flaw, but something that's gotten her trouble in the series throughout is like, she's kind of calling it out on herself.

Holly Constant (01:06:57.943)
Yeah, and she's calling, I mean, you could even take it as calling it out the bad people that do that, where they have a blind, stubborn belief that what they're doing is 100 % right. Like, if they can do it, then so can I for the good cause, you know?

Madi (01:07:03.308)
That's so true. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Madi (01:07:10.825)
Exactly. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:07:14.199)
We've got Ken Hotate, the late great Jonathan Jackson is back. So great. Rest in peace. Beautifully written and rightfully declined. Gotta say. She wants him to donate money to give it to the federal government that was stolen by the federal government. Yeah. Ken Hotate, great acting here. Jonathan Jackson. Absolutely. That monotony of like the monotone like, do you see the problem here? And she's like, okay. But yeah, I love that they brought that up.

Madi (01:07:32.888)
Good for you. Yeah.

Madi (01:07:39.05)
Mm-hmm. I'm so... Agreed. I loved how he laid it out like that. And you can just kind of follow along and you're like, yeah, this ain't right.

Holly Constant (01:07:51.125)
Yeah, and I mean, I understand why she like declined, I guess, the casino, but a part of me is like, couldn't you have come to a compromise and maybe have a casino on like half of that land? There's a lot of land there, I don't know. But at the same time, like, he doesn't, yeah, she doesn't need to be asking him any favors, so it's fine.

Madi (01:08:09.79)
No, no, it's different than when she was trying to do the park and was creating the Wamba Koke playground and stuff. Different.

Holly Constant (01:08:15.863)
Mm-hmm. But yeah, I mean, I see why she asked for help, I suppose. But yeah, that's not a good look for the federal government, I should say. Anyway, Andy takes his sling off. my gosh, bad idea. And then for their spontaneous crazy night, they talk about doing shots. Then she dares Andy to eat the entire jug of olives, but he needs to take his heartburn medicine.

my god, and then she says, April's like, I hate us. And I was like, no, April, don't say that. Don't you, don't hate us. You don't. I know that you're living in the moment, but no.

Madi (01:08:48.728)
Yeah.

Madi (01:08:53.804)
Yeah, I know. I love it. I love that they're in this together. They're trying to look for these things together. It's really sweet.

Holly Constant (01:09:01.555)
Yeah, it is. So there is a deleted scene here where April says she's going to pretend to be a valet and then Andy somehow got some live lobsters and he's going to put them in people's cars. I bet he stole them from the kitchen or something because it was a fancy dinner and he holds up the lobsters like they are moving in this scene. So I think they were real lobsters. But I'm just going to go ahead and play this. There's a there's a.

Madi (01:09:16.608)
He had to have.

Holly Constant (01:09:25.259)
guest star in here that for the life of me I could not find. I'll talk about it after. But he did a great job so I'll just play this.

Holly Constant (01:10:06.213)
And then he just puts the lobsters on the ground so they can like run around. Because he thinks that they're like letting go like a dog or a squirrel or something. my god.

Madi (01:10:09.519)
What? no!

Madi (01:10:17.324)
Andrew.

Holly Constant (01:10:18.25)
Andrew. But in that this this deleted scene is all over like the Parks and Rec subreddits and it's on the Parks and Rec official YouTube and all these things. So like it's not hidden or anything. So I tried to look up who this guy is, Pete Bancroftal, but I can't find him. And I'm so confused and frustrated about that because I want to know who it is. And I posted on I commented on some of the videos that posted this and was like,

Do you, does anyone know this actor? And I could not find him. And I don't know if it's on him or the production or whatever, but like, and I mean, it's sad to say, but we, and we've talked about this before, but a lot of times you as the actor have to be responsible for posting on IMDB that you were in something and then the production or IMDB will like confirm it. Sometimes if the production's really good about it, they'll, they will add it. You know what I mean? But that's not always the case. And IMDB is your resume. So I don't know if this guy is not an actor.

Madi (01:11:09.985)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:11:10.805)
like officially or if he was like a stunt performer or something or on the crew and he just kind of came in. I'm not really sure, but I think he did a great job. And like I said, I always play every guest star that got deleted. hopefully we find out who that is, but I think that's still a really funny scene.

Madi (01:11:29.666)
Yeah, reach out to us if it's you. We'd love to talk to you.

Holly Constant (01:11:31.878)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, so we'll see. Maybe someone will comment back. But yeah, if you are a fan, go on the YouTube and look up that, you know, Andy Lobster's deleted scene and it'll come up. So now Leslie is talking to Donna, Tom and Jerry saying she knows they're all off doing their own thing, but she needs the team back for the mission, which I also think is a new addition for us because we don't really know that they are not with the Parks Department.

anymore or with the National Parks Department I should say on the fourth floor. So I think that's interesting to learn. And then

Madi (01:12:07.758)
Yeah, definitely. And I'm glad we kind of follow it.

Holly Constant (01:12:12.361)
Yeah, I'm glad we kind of follow it too, but they are kind of on Ron's side, which is sad. Like Tom can build a restaurant on the land that Ron buys. Donna is the realtor slash broker for the land. She says she's engaged now though, which is also a new thing. and she needs the money. So like they're kind of not necessarily on Ron's side, like emotionally, but professionally they are, which kind of sucks for Leslie.

Holly Constant (01:12:41.879)
And then, I do like Donna's dress too, which is very nice. and they ask about her emotionally too, and she says the kids are trying to destroy us, which I think is hilarious, and I feel like you might be able to relate to that.

Madi (01:12:55.758)
I can. I can relate to that pretty heavily. they're, it's a, it's really always the adults versus the kids. They're, it's a team thing and they're trying to, yeah, bring us down.

Holly Constant (01:13:08.265)
Yeah, I think that's a really good point. And I still think they could have stuck around and like talk to Leslie instead of Tom saying like, peace out. But whatever, like I guess he had to go introduce Ben and I don't know. I feel like it was weird for them to just leave, but it's OK.

Madi (01:13:21.752)
Yeah.

Madi (01:13:25.72)
I agree. And I think it is really sad to see that Tom and Donna are like not on Leslie's side, like business case wise, it does make sense. So it's just interesting to see that, you know, they've moved on in their lives. They're not part of the parks team anymore because they're part of the team of making sure their own business is functioning.

Holly Constant (01:13:44.307)
Right. Yeah, totally. And it's really sad how kind of, you know, they're not really like, it doesn't seem anyway, like they are friends anymore or close anymore. They're friends, but they're not like in on each other's lives anymore. Which I think will build that as the season gets there. But within these two years, it's been like, she has three kids. She has a full time job. They also have their own lives and like businesses to run and things like that. So it's really.

Madi (01:13:58.414)
Yeah.

Madi (01:14:07.822)
Yeah.

Madi (01:14:11.586)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:14:12.439)
kind of heartbreaking in a way for me.

Madi (01:14:15.894)
It is. And I think it's relatable though as you go through life, right? Like life changes and you and I talk about this all the time that friendships, like they change. It doesn't have to be for the worse where you don't have them in your life anymore. But it like sometimes it just evolves and like what can you give and balancing that and being honest with each other. it just is unfortunately just part of life as you grow and

Holly Constant (01:14:21.399)
100%.

Holly Constant (01:14:28.906)
evolve.

Holly Constant (01:14:36.823)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (01:14:45.857)
and change.

Holly Constant (01:14:46.643)
Yeah, yeah, totally. And how much you can balance and give the effort and how much each person can give the effort, you know what I mean? And if that effort is acceptable to you, you know what I mean? So it's just a lot of like the the changes and you have to kind of have conversations with yourself. But yeah, I think that this is like you said, a good way of showing the growth to within those two years. And it's another good way for them to show how these

Madi (01:14:50.84)
Hmm.

Madi (01:14:56.739)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (01:15:15.467)
times have passed and that it's good that they just kind of dropped us in. You know what I mean? Instead of like explaining everything, I think it's really, I think it's more interesting that way personally. It is, I could see like if I was first watching it not knowing how it ends, I might be more frustrated. But this is also the first episode so we've got to give it some time.

Madi (01:15:29.678)
Hmm.

Madi (01:15:36.63)
Yeah, well, I like it too, because you think about how much they can do with everything you don't know with these 12 episodes, like how much they can give us and how creative they get to be. it's going to be cool to watch the whole series.

Holly Constant (01:15:41.949)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:15:46.89)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:15:50.973)
Yeah, totally. And like what they can see. Yeah, totally. So now Larry Jerry, whatever goes by Terry because there's already else someone else named Larry, which OK, whatever. Ron has I know, know it's like he is there. He's taking it so nicely, though. It's just a fun group. It's fun that I get to change my name all the time. It's fine.

Madi (01:16:06.732)
I feel so bad for him.

Holly Constant (01:16:22.399)
Okay, so, yep. So Ron has a kebab slash stick of shrimp, love that. And this lead up that Tom has for Ben, like the introduction to Ben makes me wanna smack him. I'm so sorry, I thought we were done with this shit and sleazy Tom. Like at first I could handle it, because I was like, you're in front of an interviewer, you're trying your best to have this facade of a business owner mogul like.

Madi (01:16:23.086)
true Jerry fashion.

Holly Constant (01:16:48.339)
you know, macho dude, not macho, but you know what I mean, like you're successful. But when it comes to Ben, you can't even buck up for like 10 seconds. You don't even have to say anything insane. Just say, this is a really great guy and he's my friend. Please welcome Ben Wyatt. That's it. And you had to go and like, I understand he does explain it. Like I got too emotional and it is really sweet. I do love that scene at the end. But I'm just like, you didn't have to go on and on for as long as you did.

Madi (01:17:13.848)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (01:17:17.511)
like if you were that like, you know, insecure or whatever and you were saying that you're amazing at being humble, like it didn't have to be 45 minutes of that.

Madi (01:17:19.128)
Yeah.

Madi (01:17:27.38)
No, absolutely not. And I think that the thing that made me, I wanted to punch him, like you said, immediately when he started talking anyway. But when Ben comes out and he gets cut off for time because Tom went too long, that's when I lose it because Ben's been...

Holly Constant (01:17:38.153)
Yes!

Madi (01:17:46.562)
Ben's been so excited about this, like the whole time. He's so proud of it and he gets up there and he gets like 30 seconds or less.

Holly Constant (01:17:54.749)
Yeah, I know. I absolutely agree with that. I know. my God, it's so heartbreaking when they play the music and don't even give him any time. But yeah. And my gosh, then we have this like Ron and Leslie moment and it's really sad when, you know, he has his little skewer moment and he says, why don't you, she says, why don't you take off the meat? And when I turn around, stab me in the back with the skewer. That's, that's harsh. That's intense. Yeah.

Madi (01:18:21.774)
It is harsh. That's harsh.

Holly Constant (01:18:25.535)
Yeah. And my gosh, I had in all caps, like, because Tom's still going on at this point, like during the whole Leslie Ron thing, I had in all caps like, Tom, shut up, please stop.

Madi (01:18:38.636)
No one wants to hear this.

Holly Constant (01:18:40.203)
we've got to cut it off somehow. And I mean, I'm sure it's probably just this like thing that Tom does and a lot of people maybe do where they just like can't get a hold on where to end it. So it just keeps going like a Michael Scott moment of like, sometimes I start a sentence, I don't even know where it's going, like that kind of thing, maybe. But I'm like, my god. And then the boys and girls club make a paper mache statue, which is so cute and awful. It doesn't look good, but it's still so cute.

Madi (01:18:43.458)
Yeah.

Madi (01:19:05.358)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's the effort that counts.

Holly Constant (01:19:09.119)
And then Ben is telling a great story about like how he first started here and all these things. And then the music plays him off. What the hell? Like it's his night. Why wouldn't someone.

Madi (01:19:18.382)
I wanted to hear that. I think we could have gotten more information too of what's happened in the last three years if he had given a speech too. So I feel like we feel a sense of loss as an audience, which makes us more upset with Tom.

Holly Constant (01:19:20.855)
Corbin.

Holly Constant (01:19:28.788)
Yeah, maybe so.

Holly Constant (01:19:36.467)
Yeah, totally, totally. And I love Adam Scott's performance of I guess it's time for cake. Like what perfect pause timing. He did a great job with that. That was really funny. my gosh. And then we've got Andy and April still coming up with crazy ideas and he's like, but that's it. I'll stick her across the stage. my gosh. I mean, I do love that they are on the we've already said this, but I do love that they're on the same page together. Like they're really trying to.

Madi (01:19:53.016)
issues.

Holly Constant (01:20:04.789)
be a team here, something that they do a great job of always. And Pratt's line or Andy's line of, everyone's gonna see my wiener, you've seen how dumb it looks. That's a really funny line. Just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, great idea. And okay, so now we're all holding candles to light this cake, which to me, I understand that it seems ceremonial, but it felt weird. Why are we doing this? It's not like someone died.

Madi (01:20:14.562)
And she's like, yeah.

Madi (01:20:29.742)
Yeah, it's also not anybody's... Well, I guess it's Pawnee's birthday. But do we really need to blow on a big communal cake that everyone at this party is going to eat? We want somebody to blow these candles out. Yeah, it's very interesting and weird. But they had to create chaos in some way.

Holly Constant (01:20:34.993)
Yeah, maybe that's what it is.

Holly Constant (01:20:44.662)
Yeah, it weird.

Holly Constant (01:20:50.967)
Yeah, that's true. And I mean, it's cute that like everybody can be maybe that's what it was. Like everyone, everybody that's part of Pawnee was contributing to lighting the cake. like I said, it's ceremonial, but it still felt a little funky. And then Ron and Leslie are still fighting slash discussing while they're holding the flame. By the way, she throws down her candle, like her lit candle. And I was like, you didn't even

blow it out before this happened. That's so weird.

Holly Constant (00:01.069)
Um, so she throws down this lit candle and I just feel like it was weird. She didn't even like stomp it out. I don't know. It was very strange to me. And then this is where she ruins the cake by shoving Ron and herself into the cake. And then Ben's paper statue gets lit on fire. Like Leslie, no, this is Ben's night. You've got to somehow remain calm.

Madi (00:25.078)
Yeah, I have children in all caps and like six exclamation points lined up here because yes, I'm a little frustrated with Ron, but Leslie definitely instigates more of the childish behavior. And just like you mentioned, I'm really upset with her because this is her husband's night and she comes first. I feel like in a lot of what we see as the audience, she comes first so heavily a lot.

Holly Constant (00:40.587)
Yeah, she does.

Madi (00:54.528)
not to say that they're not balanced, but whenever it's her time, he's solely focused on making sure it's her time to shine. And we're just losing that here. And I'm like, Leslie, you couldn't put this behind you for an hour so that Ben could have his time to shine. So he's being let down by Tom. And then I feel like he's being let down by Leslie here too. And it's just, it's so sad. Yeah, don't ruin the cake. Yeah, yeah.

Holly Constant (00:56.023)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (01:15.597)
Like if you fight, like don't ruin the cake. Like you can fight, but maybe take it outside. I don't know.

Madi (01:22.188)
Yeah, don't take it right next to the cake and don't take it like right, yeah. It's cause this seems like part of the ceremonial piece of the night. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:25.483)
and then just assume that there's gonna be a backup cake.

Madi (01:31.77)
Leslie. I'm yeah, I'm this is for Leslie when I look at this three years later. We see that she's been really, really successful. She's a mom now. So she's balancing a lot more, which we knew she was capable of because of who she is. But I think there's still these pieces of her that still haven't grown out of her yet, like the steamrolling and the I'm right and that kind of stuff that still hasn't.

which makes her Leslie. So I'm not saying she has to change, but we still have these familiar pieces of her that are here.

Holly Constant (02:01.644)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (02:06.997)
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Also, that cake looks fantastic. I hope they did this only one time to not ruin multiple cakes, like in the actual shooting of this. Like, what a waste that would be. But I bet they had, I bet the actual film crew did have multiple cakes.

Madi (02:14.444)
Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Madi (02:25.282)
yeah, I'm sure they were very prepared for that. And I'm Andy. I am so Andy. I'm like, they're still going to serve the cake, right? I don't care that people fell into it. It looks amazing.

Holly Constant (02:27.305)
Ugh.

Holly Constant (02:32.299)
Yeah, like they have to. So sad for Ben.

Madi (02:38.604)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (02:39.713)
So now we're at the pitches for The Land selling the bid. And Tom, Ron, and the Grizzle Dude, Jessica Wicks, and Trevor Nelson are coming out laughing, which is really annoying. mean, I had a little trigger moment when I was like, my god, this is like in auditions when someone walks out and they're just like laughing and giggling and having a great time. And I'm waiting outside in the waiting room or interviews for a job. Like, my gosh, this is really good writing. And I also love that Ron gets this like, or not Ron, sorry, Tom always, they always write for Tom

the of the joke, the punchline kind of thing, where you don't really know the joke beforehand. I think that must be so fun to be creative of like, what's the most random ass thing we can say that would be a joke for Tom? And I love Trevor's line of, get it. Like he has to say that he gets it because he clearly doesn't, or maybe he does get it and he just wants to fit in and like he wants everyone to know. Regardless though, it's really funny. I mean, Trevor's stupid, but it's funny.

Madi (03:12.728)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (03:21.91)
Yeah. Agreed.

Madi (03:29.603)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (03:33.336)
Yeah.

He also could just... Yeah. Yeah, it's so funny.

Holly Constant (03:41.057)
He also could just what?

Madi (03:44.297)
Because you're talking about the lawyer. Are you talking about the lawyer that says that?

Holly Constant (03:47.084)
Yeah.

Madi (03:49.164)
Okay, because my thought process was that he could also just be saying, get it, so nobody tries to explain it to him.

Holly Constant (03:54.701)
yeah.

Madi (03:57.358)
It's like, okay, let's move on now.

Holly Constant (03:59.721)
Yeah, which is weird though, that he was laughing about it because he's not a laugher. So I feel like he was just laughing because he's like into the money part of it and he wants to make sure that like everyone knows it. But anyway, yeah. And also, OK, this is really random, but I feel like it's my next note. And I just feel like it's kind of inappropriate to put your hands in your pants like Ron does. I know he's not going all the way down, but like, I don't know. It just feels weird to me the more I see it.

Madi (04:10.167)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (04:26.762)
like in the loop of his belt, you know what I mean? I know I've seen old white men do that before, I know that's a thing, but I'm like, it feels weird.

Madi (04:26.924)
Yeah, no, that's fair.

Mm-hmm.

Madi (04:36.79)
Mm-hmm. I can see that. Yeah, yeah.

Holly Constant (04:39.532)
And then the grizzle guy calls Jessica Witts Jessie, which is annoying and hands her this kind of a bribe in a way, but like this gift, which is what we're talking about. I love your skin. Give me your skin. They did a great job on that. And yeah, mean, I mean, that's what's something that's so brilliant about the show that I just feel like it always comes like all the problems and things that they write about with government and the culture, like it always comes back. It's not going away.

Madi (04:51.32)
Mm-hmm.

Yep.

Madi (05:04.705)
Mm, yeah.

Holly Constant (05:06.297)
and see like AI software it's only gotten worse from here. my God.

crazy. Yeah, very topical. Yeah. And yeah, I do get that AI can be a tool, but it should not take away from the creativity and human connection. Like, shut up with this AI nonsense. It's getting on my last nerve. Anyways. So Don and Tom don't say hi to Leslie, which I don't like that. They just kind of walk off. And it wasn't pointed. was not like, you know, they meant to not say hi to her. But I feel like they could have at least said like, hey.

Madi (05:14.478)
Yeah, very topical. They're very good at that.

Madi (05:26.669)
Yeah.

Madi (05:36.398)
I don't either.

Holly Constant (05:42.57)
And they didn't, they just walk away. That was weird.

Madi (05:45.998)
Yeah, it's interesting with how close you were for so long.

Holly Constant (05:49.173)
Yeah. And then Ron, like, who are you? Like, you would have had such snark when that guy said that he wants you to watch video games silently. Like, I know he likes the quietly part, but no, that feels weird.

Madi (06:01.226)
Yeah, no, I hate that. I hate that because the Ron we know would be like, nah, that sounds awful. I'm leaving. Yeah.

Holly Constant (06:07.68)
Like, I don't want to do that. That doesn't interest me. Yeah. So this is where Leslie opens her bid just to make sure she's prepared before she goes in. And it's $3.2 million, which is not enough at all. But it has a beautiful little blurb. I paused it on the description on the piece of paper. And it says, we believe our beautiful foothills and lakes should be preserved for generations to come. And the National Park Service can make that happen. It's so cute and nice.

and professional.

Madi (06:39.235)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (06:40.916)
All right, so then we've got Andy and April going to drop off their renter's insurance forms, which to April's point, that is true. They definitely would not have had this, like renter's insurance forms in season like two or three even. I mean, they literally like busted through their glass sliding door for a home movie. Like they clearly did not care how they destroyed their home. And then...

Madi (06:56.237)
Yeah.

Madi (07:00.408)
For funsies, yeah.

Yep.

Holly Constant (07:07.658)
Let's see, so Andy says he doesn't know where they are. She says it's the warehouse district, which we have not seen before or heard of really. I mean, I think maybe that's where the bread factory was that exploded. That could have been probably. But anyhow, they stop at a creepy house that has an open house slash for sale sign. And it's this like rusted old wooden, dirty looking rotten mansion. And it looks super like wild and horror movie vibes.

Madi (07:16.078)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (07:22.392)
Yeah.

Madi (07:36.238)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, very April.

Holly Constant (07:39.261)
Mm-hmm, very April. So then Tom goes into Ben's office like nothing happened. And at first you're like, my God, just stop. But he does apologize and Ben says that he knew it would happen. Like I knew, like that's why I gave you said not to do it. But then apparently it's revealed, so this is Tom's little redemption moment, that it's revealed that Tom is the one that actually asked the Chamber of Commerce to introduce him. The Chamber didn't actually ask.

Tom asked. And finally, Tom shows some vulnerability and emotion. And before he reads this speech, I mean, we've already said it, but I just kind of had a note that I was like, it feels very cowardice that you had to like, not show emotion in front of people that for your friend that has done so much work for you, and you have to do it in private, but whatever. But then, know, I did. No, go ahead.

Madi (08:22.979)
Mm.

Madi (08:29.546)
Yeah, well, I was just going to say, and you didn't have to give the whole speech that you're giving to Ben now. You could have picked a couple lines out so you didn't cry and it could still be about Ben and how much you adore him and go from there.

Holly Constant (08:38.72)
That's true.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (08:46.796)
Yeah. And also, don't think Tom understands yet too, that like if the reporter had seen that maybe she probably would have liked it because it's like, oh, he has layers. You know what I mean? And it was like really nice and sweet to his friend. But that's OK. I get it. I'm just taking it too seriously. But then it really was special. Like the actual content of the speech was really nice because he was talking about how he owes Ben so much, which he literally does.

Madi (08:54.83)
Mm.

Yeah.

Madi (09:03.68)
Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (09:14.316)
and they stood by each other. He calls Ben the biggest baller he's ever known, which is, in Tom's words, like, that's the highest compliment, like, to call someone the biggest baller, okay? I mean, that's deep for him. And it's really cute. And I love Adam Scott's performance here, trying to be nonchalant while crying. Like, it's a pretty good speech. I think I liked it. That was really, really good.

Madi (09:28.302)
Yeah.

Madi (09:35.542)
Yeah, I think I liked it. I love that.

Holly Constant (09:38.284)
Me too. It's like a little cheesy, whatever, but I think you liked it. It's so good. And then we zoom out and they're crying together.

Madi (09:44.238)
Yeah. And we don't have very many.

Yeah, and that's what I gonna say. We don't have very many instances. The only one other one I can really remember was when Ben and Leslie do this side-by-side talking head where you end up seeing they're both there for the talking head. So it has like an extra impact there that they're still together and they're gonna hug and...

Holly Constant (10:00.843)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (10:05.268)
Yeah. Yeah, very special. So now Leslie's giving her speech for the bid on the land and she writes a zero on the back of her original bid, which Jessica might think, thinks maybe is an O for Oprah being involved in her bid, which I think that's a really hilarious little piece of comedy. And Leslie's, yeah, like what is this circle? What is this? What am I looking at? It's so funny. It's very Jessica Wick's like character.

Madi (10:24.246)
Yeah, I love the circle. She also guesses circle.

Madi (10:31.757)
Yes.

Holly Constant (10:34.142)
I feel to think it's Oprah or just a circle. And yeah, Leslie's impassioned speech is really good here where she says that the new ports are within the fabric of this town, the community, the economy, all of it. And it's the 200th anniversary of Pawnee and this company, while some great things have come of it as far as like jobs and like I said, the economy, some really bad things have also come of it too. Okay. And they're not all good. They're not all morally good. They've actually hurt quite a few people.

Madi (10:34.327)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (10:39.234)
Yeah.

Madi (10:59.438)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (11:03.896)
and so she asks, like, what do want the Newport name to mean? Like, how do you want this legacy to be remembered? Because you will be a part of this, moment and cultural time for people to remember you forever. Like, and to Jessica, her reputation and her legacy is really important. So I feel like Leslie did a really good job with, kind of catering to that part of her personality and to that, like, soft spot.

Madi (11:25.742)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (11:33.172)
You know what I mean? It's maybe not as important as money, but I feel like reputation is kind of right up there with like how she's seen and viewed, you know?

Madi (11:35.18)
Yeah.

Madi (11:43.17)
Yeah, well having your name on a national park is probably like pretty, pretty important in like high class, you know, meaningful.

Holly Constant (11:52.395)
Yeah, totally. I mean, to be seen as a philanthropist, feel, and to be like a charitable person in addition to being rich is also like, I think, the best of both worlds for a lot of rich people, even though they don't contribute all the time. Like having your name and donations is like a big deal. And so once she makes this impassioned speech about the legacy thing, then she like does a, you know, a really pointed...

Madi (11:57.902)
Hmm.

Madi (12:10.68)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (12:17.778)
naming of Newport National Park and pauses and it's very effective, like very enticing. And I guess I'm wondering also why she couldn't have bid the 3.2 million and the legacy. Like the 3.2 million could be the money part for Jessica and then the national park could like the name and the legacy and all that kind of stuff could fill in the gaps for the rest of the 90 million dollars or 88 million dollars that she needs. But maybe Leslie just wanted to, you know, do that all or nothing kind of thing to see what she could.

Madi (12:24.014)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (12:41.069)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (12:47.19)
do with the legacy part of it.

Madi (12:48.706)
Yeah. Yeah, I love that.

Holly Constant (12:50.39)
that legacy is like more important maybe maybe she was just trying to make that point you know

Madi (12:55.842)
Yeah. What are you gonna do with 90 million dollars? I can't ever imagine.

Holly Constant (12:56.032)
But yeah.

Holly Constant (13:00.094)
You don't, no one needs it. No one needs it. No one, no one person needs it. need to clarify. You know what I'm saying? Ugh, so annoying. But yeah, Leslie is just like saying she needs to, she just wants to be kept in the running. Like just keep me in the running and let me prove to you how great this could be. And I think that's, yeah, we don't know what Jessica's thinking at this point in time, but that was a really, a really good Leslie speech there.

Madi (13:03.21)
No, no one needs it.

I don't even know.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Geez.

Madi (13:23.416)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (13:31.756)
Yeah, agreed.

Holly Constant (13:34.038)
So back with Andy in April at the creepy house there are 12 closets, 3 bomb shelters, 5 dumb waiters, 2 and 3 eighths baths, which is so funny, no kitchen, and to Andy I love this line, what, no kitchen?

Madi (13:44.952)
would love to know what that means.

Madi (13:50.028)
the two three eights bathroom.

Holly Constant (13:51.141)
I know, right? It's like half a bathtub or something. I love to Andy that it's a pretty standard layout. Like, yeah, that seems right.

Madi (13:55.981)
Yeah.

Madi (14:01.046)
Yeah, which shows you how little he knows about looking for a house.

Holly Constant (14:05.694)
Yeah, totally. And I really, okay, I really want a dumb waiter. Okay, like if you're not familiar people with what dumb waiters are, I don't love that name, by the way, it's like weird to me. But as a reminder, it's just like a little slot, especially for like multiple story homes for you to lift things down or up to the next floor. Like laundry chutes are technically a form of dumb waiter kind of thing. And I mean, I only have a one story house. like I...

Madi (14:11.384)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (14:29.056)
don't need it per se, but it would be nice to have like a little tunnel that shoots like my water bottle to the kitchen, fills it and brings it back, which is so like lazy of me, but I just like that idea. And I mean, at the beginning, like these were built for these types of houses with like, you know, that had servants or like people that didn't have to, or that you wouldn't want running up and down the stairs all the time. like, yeah.

Madi (14:41.806)
Yeah, I'm with you.

Madi (14:48.972)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (14:57.79)
Anyway, we see this old man now after April says, like, is this a staircase to nowhere? Yes, good eye. Love that.

Madi (15:06.06)
Yeah, this actor, he nailed this for me and just killed it. And I don't know if you could find anybody who could do this the same way and make the, cause it just hits, it hits so well. And it just makes you sit there and go, this is where they need to live because of this, way he's selling the house. It's so great.

Holly Constant (15:08.703)
Amazing.

Holly Constant (15:16.256)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (15:27.73)
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, totally. And I mean, this, I don't know how they got him or like where I'll have to look that up. I was more so involved with like what he's done before and everything. But yeah, I mean, this was like a crazy cameo. He's known for being a director and as much as he is an actor, and he was really famous before this. And after this, it's really funny, you guys probably know him from if you watch Mando Mandalorian.

Madi (15:41.294)
Mm.

Holly Constant (15:55.309)
where he's famous for his line, you know, I want to see the baby. That's him. If y'all didn't remember that. This was way after Parks and Rec. But I think it's also really funny too because he says he wants to move to Disney World. That line is hilarious. And he's now part of the Disney universe, which is so ironic, first of all. But secondly, like you said, the way he acts and performs that line of total like switcheroo, you would not think that he would be moving there.

Madi (16:15.04)
Yeah, so great.

Holly Constant (16:24.134)
happiest place on earth but that's like because his character that'd be like april moving to disney world which is like what but the way he says it and with his accent is so good

Madi (16:31.628)
Yeah. Why?

Holly Constant (16:38.078)
And good for him, he deserves it.

Madi (16:38.358)
Agreed, yeah. So well done. Yeah, you go live near Disney World. I love it.

Holly Constant (16:44.704)
So just a brief breakdown, this actor, famous actor is Werner Herzog and he also directed and worked on a documentary in 2007 that was nominated for an Oscar, which was before this episode of Parks and Rec in 2014. And it was a nature documentary where he travels to Antarctica, discovering the animals, the nature, like under the ocean and the glaciers, all the things. It's called Encounters at the End of the World, super famous.

He's also been in four episodes of The Simpsons, which I thought that was really funny, because I wonder if he met any of the Parks people on The Simpsons, and he'd be a great voice actor, hello. And he's done so much stuff as a writer, director, producer, obviously an actor, really known for his filmmaking style, which is very intense and sometimes like dangerous productions, like these documentaries. And the line that I found online when I was doing the research,

Madi (17:19.094)
Yeah. yeah.

Holly Constant (17:38.229)
someone explained it as, quote, philosophical explorations of obsessed characters against indifferent nature. So yeah, very deep and like, yeah, intense. And he was also a cornerstone of something called the German New Wave, which you guys, if you know more information about this, like, please let me know. I just did the briefest of research on this, but he achieved international acclaim through features, Aguirre, or am I saying that right? Aguirre, maybe, the wrath of God.

Madi (17:51.246)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (18:06.1)
and acclaimed documentaries such as Grizzly Man. So he is a very big, intense documentary filmmaker, which I already said, I'm repeating myself, but just to drive that home. He also, I saw in his biography that he also staged operas in Germany, according to the research I did, which I believe means he produced them, so I shall put them up, which I think that's fun. What a fun, like weird thing for this character to do. He's an enigma, he can do it all.

Madi (18:30.06)
Yeah.

Madi (18:34.326)
Yeah, I love that.

Holly Constant (18:36.916)
And dude, just the writing on this, like, not only the Disney World thing, but the house was a holding cell for the people who went insane on the assembly line for the doll head factory. Because that bait and switch of you thinking of April being excited that it was a doll head factory, but it's just the insane asylum for them. Like, that's crazy! Absolutely. It's so smart, so heightened.

Madi (18:47.672)
That kills me.

Madi (18:54.644)
which makes it better for her. I'm sure she loves that more.

Holly Constant (19:00.648)
And I also love the idea that it was just a doll's head factory, not the doll's full body, clothes, hair, like just the heads. Which is even more like psychotic.

Madi (19:06.305)
Yeah, not the doll.

Madi (19:13.11)
Yeah, I love it.

Holly Constant (19:14.482)
And there's a fire pole. I love that the guy is so honest and it's just like, it's also haunted and disgusting. It's so good. And 47 years of living here, he says he's lived there. that line just really made me laugh out loud though with his accent and clothes and face and just like everything, like imagining him and his outfit that he's wearing right now, like great job, costume department.

Madi (19:23.822)
He knows, he knows what it is.

Madi (19:32.194)
Yeah. Wow.

Holly Constant (19:42.928)
walking through Disneyland, just having the time of his life, like with probably a scowl on his face as he has now, but just like so happy on the inside. It just like is really funny and wonderful imagery there.

Madi (19:44.398)
Mmm.

Madi (19:53.015)
Yeah.

Madi (19:57.229)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (19:58.079)
And then another bait and switch where Andy says they're adults and responsible. So you know what that means. And it's so wonderful because the dejection sets in for April, like we're not going to get to buy this house. I know we're adults and responsible. And he's like, no, that actually means we have money and we are going to buy the fuck out of this house. Great bleeping moment.

Madi (20:10.124)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (20:14.186)
Yes. Yes, I love it. And I love that you see like, you know, again, they're on the same page. And I agree with this. Like if this house is going to make you happy, it's an adult purchase, but it's still going to make you feel like you're connected to who you are on the inside. Like, I kind of love this for them.

Holly Constant (20:28.634)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (20:33.204)
Yeah, and if they have the money to do it, it won't go like crazy in debt. Then yeah, I do too.

Madi (20:38.808)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (20:40.266)
Yeah. All right, so now there's a press conference on TV for the Wicks, the Jessica Wicks lawyer moment. And how did he memorize that lawyer's office name? And why is this televised? Like, I don't know.

Madi (20:51.374)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (20:56.108)
Yeah, also, why is this telepathic? I don't know, there's plenty, there's not enough other stuff going on, I guess.

Holly Constant (21:01.1)
Yeah, I guess. But I didn't even write down the lawyer's name because it was like all these, it was like six names and they were all so out there. I was like, my gosh, that must've been fun slash hard to memorize. Also, I really liked the outside shot of this, of Ben and Leslie's house. I feel like we haven't seen a ton of the exterior shots of it. I know we've seen the inside because it was a big deal when they got engaged, but I don't...

Madi (21:12.301)
Yeah.

Madi (21:21.506)
Mmm.

Madi (21:29.976)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (21:30.262)
feel like we've seen the exterior a lot, so I like seeing that. That's good. And it does look like a different house. They've definitely switched it up.

Madi (21:33.89)
Yeah.

Yeah, and I definitely don't see as... it definitely doesn't have all the wood it had that first time.

Holly Constant (21:40.048)
sorry, go ahead.

Holly Constant (21:44.231)
Yeah. Yeah. And I think they did a good, I don't know if it's this exact same interior of the house. I would assume it is. However, they just, you can see within the two years, they changed furniture. They now have toys everywhere. Like they have a life lived in there. Whereas before it was just them two. They could keep it a little bit more tidy and like not have as many, have as much clutter. And that's just not really a thing when you have kids slash live your life. You know what I mean? So.

Madi (22:09.43)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Holly Constant (22:12.446)
Anyway, so the televised event says that from this lawyer says that they've narrowed the search down to two final candidates and it's of course Grizzle slash Ron and Leslie. that's, I mean, she's in the running now. So that's good at her speech work.

Madi (22:27.79)
Yeah, and I think you get, here's where I see growth with Leslie. She sees the hard work that's coming ahead. So when she hears that she's made it in the running, there's no like blast of excitement or I did it or anything like that. Like we might've seen in the past. She has this realistic like, okay, here's where the work starts. I made it in the door and here we go. So, yeah.

Holly Constant (22:47.338)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, good point. Yeah, she has this moment where she says she started with the pit, and now she can take this national park and do the same thing on a grander scale, which is really amazing to see. And it's really cool to see her, you know, she thought the pit was her biggest goal, and to see that she just keeps going. And that's kind of how, you know, a lot of life and career is. Like, you think that you reach the pinnacle, and it's really amazing that you did. And if you want to stop there, that's great.

Madi (23:00.493)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (23:16.842)
But the growth is like continuing to raise the bar and continuing to meet goals if that's like how you're wired. So I think that was really interesting and cool because we never would have assumed that she would, I mean we would have assumed it but I don't know that we visualized her opening a national park.

Madi (23:22.634)
Mm.

Madi (23:38.134)
Yeah. No, no, we also, we also never saw her leaving the parks and rec department. So it's really cool to see that she's, she's continuing to move up and have bigger goals. And I think you see that a little bit in every, everybody in this, this episode, right? Donna left to go do real estate. Tom has more restaurants. Ron has his own construction company. So.

Holly Constant (23:39.018)
And that's what you wanted to do last season.

Holly Constant (23:44.446)
So that's cool.

Yeah, exactly.

Holly Constant (24:06.048)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely moving on up just like the name of the episode in season six, the finale in season six. And bringing it back to Jason Bourne, which is so funny, they made that fictional casting choice of Kevin James for playing Jason Bourne in the reboot. Again, this show is so evergreen, bringing up stuff that's still 10 years, 11, 12 years later is real. The reboots that are now happening, mean, it was happening already, we know that.

Madi (24:07.683)
cool.

Madi (24:15.032)
Mm. Yep. Yep.

Madi (24:31.694)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (24:34.45)
a lot of things were being rebooted or like IP was being recreated in some way. But the reboots now, it's like even crazier, you know? So like to hear the Kevin James moment is like such a funny, realistic, true thing that could happen.

Madi (24:35.969)
Yeah.

Madi (24:45.912)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (24:53.92)
Yeah, it's so good.

Holly Constant (24:55.668)
And so out of left field, like, yeah. And I love that they have conflicting ideas on them, on Kevin James being like born, you know what I mean? That's so funny. Like, I don't know if he was a good choice. I do. I think he nailed it.

Madi (24:59.469)
Yeah.

Madi (25:07.341)
Yeah.

Madi (25:11.436)
Yeah, I think nailed it. Yeah. So good. I want to see that. I want to see a clip of that.

Holly Constant (25:14.034)
my gosh. Yeah, exactly. my God. So then we get to Ron's office and Tom says, in addition to Tom's bistros, he wants to have a lounge that says Tommy's Lounge. they're like talking about they're basically having a strategy meeting with all of Ron's side. And Leslie busts in with Andy, April and Larry and says, like, attention, this is war. You guys are going down. And that's all I wanted to say. And I just I love her.

line reading. That's all I wanted to say. I she could have said it like 8,000 different ways and I like where she landed here. And I do love that this is the moment that I really appreciated that Leslie does say like, guys, so sorry. It's just been a lot with the kids and work and whatever. And like they really have that boundary of like we're at war. She does especially. I don't know if they really have taken the initiative, but she has had.

Madi (25:46.648)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (25:58.861)
Okay.

Holly Constant (26:05.376)
that boundary of like, we're at war professionally, just a heads up and I hate you, but also I love you personally and you're my friend still, hopefully.

Madi (26:10.467)
Yeah.

Madi (26:14.496)
Yes. And here are some cookies. I think that's the nice, the cherry on top of the, I wouldn't make cookies for people I actually hated. Here are cookies. Ron, I do hate you. You can't have any.

Holly Constant (26:21.994)
Yes.

Holly Constant (26:25.534)
Right. But we end with him eating one anyway. Of course he was. Yes. And there's a little heart in the middle of the word war on the cookies. my God. They're so funny. And it reminded me a lot of her mustard cookies. Do remember when she did that?

Madi (26:29.75)
I know, which is so on brand. He's the first one to take one. Yeah. Yeah.

Madi (26:38.924)
Yeah, it's so good.

Yes! my gosh. Yeah, for a second I was like, wait, are these the mustard cookies? And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, that's already happened. Yeah, it's so true. Yeah. Yeah. man. I think...

Holly Constant (26:48.33)
That would have been smarter if it was war.

But that's okay. She, like you said, she doesn't actually hate them. So she wanted to have a little bit of a moment, I guess, of niceness.

Madi (27:02.208)
Yeah. I, I, this time I knew, but the first couple of times I rewatched the season, it was really hard for me to remember why they were fighting. And I think just because everything else is happening in this, in the season, like that's a part my brain just didn't like lock into. Like now I remember this, this time watching through, but I'm trying to pay attention to do we know who's can we know?

whose fault it is based on how they're interacting. And I think we're at a point where neither of them feel like they're at fault.

Holly Constant (27:32.949)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (27:40.652)
Definitely.

Madi (27:43.544)
So, which is in line with both of them because they're both big enough people to if they thought they were in the wrong, like we've seen it time and time again through the series that they've apologized. But I think right now they just haven't had the conversation, which we'll see. But you can see it like I don't think either of them think they're in the wrong right now.

Holly Constant (27:53.771)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (27:58.58)
Exactly.

Holly Constant (28:04.272)
Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah. And Leslie doesn't have all the information either. Which, you know, of course, if she didn't know that backstory that we eventually learn, like, I would be mad too. Like, you just left and didn't say anything and you're now you're fighting against me. And not only are you doing this now with Grizzle, but you did it already with whatever Morningstar is. Like, a double whammy. Like, I thought we were closer than that.

Madi (28:10.047)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (28:18.712)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Madi (28:27.48)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Holly Constant (28:30.566)
And so, and you're not alone in the, like earlier you said that you can't, or you weren't totally buying that they couldn't make it through, like, cause they've always somehow come together and like had a conversation or like respect each other at the end of the day. And now that respect is gone. And there were some reviews on IMDB and like some of the other research that I did saying that like that was the case for a lot of audiences, audience members who love Ron and Leslie. But I think they did a good,

Madi (28:44.916)
Mm. Yeah.

Madi (28:55.502)
Mm.

Holly Constant (28:59.146)
balance of like, if Leslie is going to get in a fight slash not talk to anyone in the office, I do think Ron is that person because they do have such differing views and there could be a world in which they do not agree and leave the agreement there and don't, you know, resolve it. Like I think that that was probably the best balance for me. Like I can't see her like not talking to Tom over something big because they're,

Madi (29:07.502)
Mm.

Holly Constant (29:29.124)
I just feel like Ron and Leslie's disagreements are fundamental to who they are. So like if she's going to get in a fight with anyone, it probably would be Ron. You know what I mean? And it makes it all the worse because they are close. You know what I mean? They do. Like, so when you get in a big fight with someone and you are close and you all, it's just like a lot of layers for them. So I think it did make sense. but I think it's also really smart that we're going to see this drawn out over a couple of episodes. So.

Madi (29:34.126)
Mm.

Madi (29:39.725)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (29:55.786)
It was a great first episode for us to be just kind of placed into this world that they have seen and lived in the last two years. So I think it was really well done.

Madi (29:56.152)
Agreed.

Madi (30:06.208)
Agreed. Yeah, I think you're right. And when you look at it with every other character, right, it's like Tom, Leslie's more of a mentor. So I think she probably would have stepped into some fault at some point to mentor him. Donna's just a straight shooter. Like boss bitch, bitch boss, right? Like she's gonna, you're not gonna go a long time without probably with Leslie specifically, she's not gonna go a long time with somebody she cares about not being upfront about what's bothering her.

Holly Constant (30:19.862)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (30:27.114)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (30:32.788)
Yeah, and Ron and Leslie had, I mean, I'd hate to say it, don't know if, like, it's not true, but it's true to me that Ron and Leslie are closer than Leslie and the other people in the Parks Department, to me personally. They're of the same age, they are working directly with each other, they've gone through a lot of shit together, and...

Madi (30:54.734)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (30:55.756)
he has been a mentor to her, whereas she's been a mentor to everyone else. And so losing her mentor is also rough. yeah. So yeah. So just, it did make sense to me, but what a great vehicle for them to have a fight over this, like, uh, grizzle, like wicks moment. You know what I mean? I think that was a really smart choice. Yeah. Okay. Well,

Madi (31:00.589)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it's hurting. hurts a different way, for sure.

Madi (31:18.592)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it's gonna be great.

Holly Constant (31:24.342)
That was season 7, episode 1. Thank you for coming into our lives with Park Pals. Please don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, and we'll be back next time with the next episode. yeah, excited to see where this season takes us.

Madi (31:39.328)
Yeah, if you can believe it, we've got 11 episodes left, which is insane. Yeah, very exciting.

Holly Constant (31:42.996)
Woo! I know. Awesome. All right, well, we'll see you next time.

Madi (31:51.096)
Bye.

Holly Constant (31:54.221)
Okay, I'll stop recording that.