Romanistan

Tarot for the week of December 15, 2026

• Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens • Season 5 • Episode 37

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We have our weekly tarot reading for love, money, and guidance. Conflict becomes clarifying, money becomes stable, and boundaries point to a fuller life.

• details for donation-based Santa Jez Abundance Ritual on the 22nd of December with replay to raise money for the podcast and E-Romnja Wi-Fi  wish lists, an abundance meditation, and guided reading for the new year
• love card Five of Wands as friction and boundary clarity
• nonviolent communication and Plum Village tools to de-escalate
• money card Queen of Pentacles as stability and practical skills
• bookkeeping, artist tax resources, small business grants, smart reinvestment
• guidance card Eight of Cups as leaving draining patterns
• reframing help and outsourcing as dignified work and self-care
• reminder that we offer gift certificates, readings, handmade goods, and holiday offerings
• shop small, support creators, boycott billionaires

Please join us for the Santa Jez Abundance Ritual on December 22 at 8 p.m. EST. Tickets are donation-based, split 50/50 between the podcast and E-Romnja. Sign up via the link in the show notes or our sites. If you can’t attend, donate directly through the Eventbrite links.

You can book 1:1 readings with Jez at jezminavonthiele.com, and book readings and holistic healing sessions with Paulina at romaniholistic.com.

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Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens

Conceived of by Paulina Stevens

Edited by Viktor Pachas, Bianca, Dia Luna

With Music by Viktor Pachas

And Artwork by Elijah Vardo

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SPEAKER_01:

Hey listeners, we are doing a fundraiser for the podcast and one of our favorite nonprofits, Iramnia. On the 22nd of December at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, it is the Santa Jez Abundance Ritual where me, Santa Jess, does an abundance ritual with you. There will be a replay if you can't make it live. But basically, the price of your ticket, which is totally by donation, goes toward 5050, the podcast and e-romnia, which does amazing work for Otomani community in Romania, including work with domestic violence survivors, trafficking survivors, just they're just wonderful. And you can send in a wish list that I will incorporate into the ritual. Your wish list remains private, of course, just I see it. But there will also be a meditation with my immaterial world co-host Jessica Richards, and a reading guiding you into an abundant new year. So it'll be really cute. You can sign up through the link in the show notes. It's on Eventbrite, it's on my Instagram link tree, it's everywhere I post things, it's on my website, jezminavontila.com. So please join us. And uh if you don't want to join for some reason, but you just want to donate, I also have links to do that. If you want to donate directly to EROMNIA or directly to the podcast, I have links on the Eventbrite as well. Thanks so much for listening. We really appreciate you. Bye.

SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to Romanas then.

SPEAKER_01:

We're your friendly neighborhood gypsies. I'm Paulina. And I'm Jez, and we have your tarot reading for the week of December 15th, 2025. Love, money, and guidance. And our love card is the Five of Wands, which is a little spicy, a little challenging. What's your advice, Paulina?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so first of all, this is a card definitely about conflict. So I feel like when it comes to those close relationships, especially love and partnerships, this really represents a week of maybe attention, some disagreement, I think like your ego getting too riled up. And it's not like breakup energy, but it is we keep hitting like we keep running into the same damn wall type of energy, if you know what I'm saying. So two people with very different styles that are coming out and clashing, styles as in like emotional styles, communication styles, and and stuff like that. And I also feel like sometimes really uncomfortable things can come up, like jealousy, competition, not seeing eye to eye, like just a lot of that. And that's where I feel like you have to, I guess, get to the bottom of it, wait until y'all are both chill, have a good deep conversation, and also I guess pick and choose your battles too.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. And I think this card can be such a good reminder that conflict doesn't have to be painful. It can be clarifying, it can be done really gently and respectfully. If you're not familiar with the term listeners, definitely Google nonviolent communication. It doesn't mean not punching each other in the face. Uh, it has a very intense uh title for something that is just about communicating in a way that's very de-escalating and really centers, you know, I feel statements versus being like, you are such a dick. Instead, you're you're saying like what you need and what you feel, and you're asking about how the other person feels and what they need, and you're recognizing what they've been trying to do, and you're recognizing how you feel. And it's like it's a very kind way to go about moving through conflict. I know that Plum Village, which is a really beautiful Buddhist uh sanctuary, has some great resources on communicating through conflict in a loving way. So tools like this, I think, are really your friends. And this is also a good time to head off any conflict that you see bubbling. Don't let it get to a bad place. If you see that someone you care about, whether it's a friend or a coworker or a partner, is feeling uncomfortable about something, just take the opportunity to ask some questions or, you know, offer them the information that they need. Try, like Paulina was saying, to just pick your battles. Not everything has to be a fight, but you do have to have some confrontation this week. And it might bring you closer or it might clarify that things have run their course, but it doesn't have to be a dramatic outcome. It might actually just be clarifying for everybody. For sure. The Queen of Pentacles is our card for money, which I'm loving. How do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_00:

It's perfect. Yeah, like the Queen of Pentacles is representing purpose and foundation, you know, obviously, good finances, stability, comfort, being grounded, abundant. So you're basically moving into a place where your money is becoming more reliable, and you're also getting ideas in how to manage it, I guess. Or maybe not even ideas, you're just learning how to manage your money, or learning that at least managing your money needs to be a priority, I would say. But yeah, I think this card is just about taking control, having confidence, and being independent in your finances. So even when let's just say like you grow up, you turn 18, like, okay, maybe you're not fully independent of your finances, or let's say you've been in a relationship or sometimes you're depending on your mom, or sometimes you're depending on a certain job, and like now certain things are getting taken away, or they're they're re-evaluating in different ways, and you're like, okay, like I'm stable, but I still have to figure out kind of how to navigate through this, and so I feel good about it overall. Like, what do you think?

SPEAKER_01:

I love this. I agree that this is such a good time for you to learn to master your money and be excited about that. I work with a bookkeeping coach, Krista McClellan of EM Bookkeeping. If you feel like you want to learn more about your money, especially if you have a small business, I think it's so important. But then there's also wonderful resources out there. Um, like I think her name is Hannah Cole. She does taxes for artists. Yeah, she has a group or an organization called Sunlight Tax, and she's a tax expert who specializes in working with creative businesses and self-employed people, entrepreneurs, artists. These are the kind of resources that make sense for me to look into. So I like to share them when people have a similar um energy about them. But maybe you need to learn the stock markets, maybe you need to create a trust or a living will. Maybe you need to learn how to actually invest in high yield savings accounts and what that means for you, or a number of other things that I don't understand. But this is a good time for you to feel empowered about your money because you're thinking about your own personal goals, whether that's just I want to feel secure, I want to have a nest egg, I want to own a house, I want to be able to retire someday. And in the short term, I think the Queen of Pentacles is all about doing things that make you feel good about your work, your money, your health, your home. Put a little energy into making your space pretty. Spend a little bit of money on yourself, don't go crazy because you're still also learning about budgeting and making your money work for you. But this is a good time for you to appreciate your abundance and maybe invest in yourself. If you do have your own business or if you have a side hustle or something else, this is a good time to put a little money in what you're doing for you and see how you grow. I applied for, what is it called? I applied for a tech grant from a small business fund so I could redo my website. And it's already helped me a lot. I get more bookings because people don't have to go back and forth with me over email. And so sometimes things like that, investing in yourself can actually bring you more abundance. And I double invested because I didn't use my own money to begin with. So it's like you might be able to become more savvy about money, even though we're in a time, if you're in the US with us, where funding for everything is being cut, you still might be able to figure some things out. For sure.

SPEAKER_00:

You might be able to survive. That's all we can tell you.

SPEAKER_01:

No, we hope we hope that we all survive and we're gonna try to help. Oh god. Laugh through the pain. So the eight of cups is our guidance for the week. What are your thoughts about this?

SPEAKER_00:

I feel like it's pretty simple, like super fucking simple to walk away from what is draining you emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. Like it's time for that. It's time for you to leave behind the old patterns and the old just way of living and even that old thought process. Like when you walk away from things like that, it allows your own brain to move and to grow and reconnect. And basically, you're not living like an MPC anymore. Like you are the main character.

SPEAKER_01:

I like that so much. It's such good advice, especially thinking about the previous two cards, because we have this card of conflict starting us off with love and relationships, and that conflict can clarify boundaries for you, which would I often associate with the eight of cups, even if you're not leaving, maybe you're stepping back, or maybe you're stepping back under certain circumstances. And it's also possible that you might be leaving them if you need to, if it feels like it's helping. And uh yeah, I agree. The eight of cups is very much like you've got your whole life ahead of you, and you're not on this earth to make everyone else happy. You can't even do that, it's not even possible. What direction do you need to go in to make your life better? And the Queen of Pentacles is interesting too here because sometimes money is just gives us peace of mind. So if you're at a place where, okay, I didn't finish that sentence, but I'm thinking about sometimes I meet with clients and they're like, oh my God, everything is going so well for me, but I'm so overwhelmed. I have so much to do. And they're making lots of money at their business or doing all these great things, and they're saying that they're so overwhelmed. And I'm like, Can you hire someone to help you with these things? And they're like, Oh, I could never hire someone to clean my house. I could never hire someone to do my laundry. You know, I grew up working class, and it's like, okay, you why don't you give another hardworking working class person a job and you go go to sleep before midnight? Like, you know, and it's just it's interesting. So sometimes money can also give you the ability to step away from things that are too much for you, and uh you can be a wonderful employer to someone or give someone an opportunity to make a little side hustle, and you can be a wonderful, kind person about that too, because it's like I think people get uncomfortable about feeling like they're asking for help or putting people out, but actually, your abundance can just create more opportunities for you, and you don't have to do literally everything. You can walk off into the distance and think your thoughts.

SPEAKER_00:

I like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean that's not where I am personally, but someone might be there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I do, I am at the overwhelming exhausting part, but that's about it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, not the money part. Not yet.

SPEAKER_00:

Not yet.

SPEAKER_01:

Speaking of, we have gift certificates. If you are looking for a special gift for a special someone, you can get a reading with Paulina at romaniholistic.com or gift certificate for a reading. You can get a reading with me or gift certificate for a reading at jasmina bontila.com. You can get our book, Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, wherever you get books. Uh, Paulina makes soaps and other cool lifestyle products. I'm making Dutora Flower Essences. You can DM us about those on Instagram or over email. We're happy to sort you out this holiday season. And remember, do not feed the billionaires. You're boycotting works. And shop local, shop small, support artists and creators and practitioners, and uh together we make the world better. Amen. We hope you have a wonderful week. Thank you for being here. Yes, thank you. We appreciate you. Bye. Bye.