July 2026 Tarot

We pull tarot for July 2026 and get real about the challenges ahead, from relationship conflict to money pressure to the need for a major perspective shift. We share practical ways to stay grounded, ask better questions, take financial action without shame, and hold boundaries even when forgiveness is part of your healing. 

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Artwork by Elijah Vardo

Transcript

Welcome And July Tarot Setup

SPEAKER_01 0:03

Welcome to Romanist.

SPEAKER_00 0:06

We're your friendly neighborhood gypsies. I'm Paulina. And I'm Jez. And we are here for your tarot for the month of July 2026. And we're so excited you're here with us. We are, but it's not looking so good to be honest with you guys. The cards have some challenges. Sometimes we rise to challenges.

Love Card Five Of Swords

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Yeah, so for love, we have the Five of Swords. How are you feeling about that?

SPEAKER_01 0:36

There's definitely some conflict. I hate that we get this in love because things get sometimes really close to the heart, really emotional when it has to do with relationship. And this shows that there will be some misunderstandings, arguments, conflict, not seeing eye to eye, and as well as just the regular life stuff basically like adding more stress onto the relationship. Like it's kind of a wake-up call to get into solution mode. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 1:34

I love solution mode. I feel like I'm a very solution-oriented person. Like I just I love to puzzle something out. And the five of swords makes me think of overthinking and getting what do people say? Getting it's the analysis of paralysis. Yeah. I like something that rhymes sometimes. But we're in the analysis of paralysis. Paralysis of analysis. Yeah. I've been having a headache for the last few days, so my words aren't coming out right. But it's the other way around.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

Absolutely. They sound good. They sound good. We're gonna be fine.

Neutral Questions And Calming The Spiral

SPEAKER_00 2:10

So basically, I like asking neutral questions when I feel like I don't understand what someone I love is doing or saying or what they mean. I don't always succeed at this, but if I can keep my wits about me, I like asking neutral questions like, what did you mean by that? Or what does this mean to you? Or what made you say that? Or whatever. Um, because we've all had that experience where something comes out of our mouth and it's because we're tired, hungry, in pain, haven't had enough to water to drink or something. Like it's a good time not to assume that everyone around you hates you. And if that is sort of your default, if you tend to run anxious, this card might present um opportunities for you to really work through that in a deeper way. But in general, I think it's good advice to not assume the worst from people and assume like neutral to positive intentions until you can get more information. And this is definitely one of those cards that's like in your relationships, try not to overthink things and instead just try to get more information. And if that's too hard, if you're like like, nope, I'm deep in the spiral and I'm going down, then just focus on nervous system regulation, like do some deep breathing, have a snack, you know, talk to another friend about it. Um, just take care of yourself so you can get out of that panic stations place.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Yeah, get your head straight. Yes.

Money Card Strength And Burnout

SPEAKER_00 3:43

And then for money, we have strength, which is an interesting one. How do you feel about this?

SPEAKER_01 3:50

I was thinking it's still a challenge. Why is every single card a damn challenge this month? We're blessed.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

We're blessed.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

We are. Someone said recently to me, like, uh, I don't know, they said something along the lines of, I think I've been in burnout mode since this date. Is that true for you too? And I was like, when was I when am I not in burnout mode? And then that made me really rethink my life where I'm like, I don't remember when I haven't felt burnt out. And that's like that's a bad thing.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Like, what is going on? So yeah, like that's literally how I feel like when it comes to money. I think it's also about basically maintaining that level of power and strength within yourself to continue on doing things to literally just survive, do the bare minimum to survive, and then having a balance of that, as well as being understanding and also pursuing things on your own. Like, this is not just about money, but it's also about purpose and like doing what you're meant to be doing and feeling like you can um succeed, but it's still this like if you want to to get here, like you have to be strong. It's kind of this reminder of like you do still have to hold it together and find a balance and hold your own, or even hold your tongue, or do this, or do that. And I mean, we don't hold our tongue, you know what I mean? Like, that's not something that we do, but it is something that I'm recommending for this month.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

Yeah, you make a good point. I'm also thinking about the ways that the strength card can encourage us to do hard things with money. I have a friend who is in debt because I mean, they're in debt, but also their debts have gotten out of control because instead of communicating to any of the lenders or anything what was going on or doing any of the things that you would normally do to try to like rein in the debt or have it be income-driven, they just never did. And it and it's so relatable. We were just talking about this on an episode that we recorded that I think will come out after this, but we were talking to my bookkeeping coach about money and how easy it is when you feel overwhelmed to just shut your eyes to the problems and let the scary mail and the scary emails like pile up and not deal with it. But

Debt Action Steps Without Shame

SPEAKER_00 6:33

it's actually so much easier to deal with it than to not deal with it. And if you need support, like if you need someone to sit with you while you call your loans uh officer or something, and if you need someone to sit with you while you open your bank account, whatever it is, just bit by bit, you gotta just do it. So if there is a financial burden that is haunting you, this is the month to just take that action and do the first step, and then the next step and the next step will be easier. Make sure that you're super, super sweet to yourself, even if you feel have a lot of shame, like the friend I'm thinking of, um, or like anyone else I've ever talked to who's ever had money issues get out of control. The shame is coming from a place that's trying to keep you safe by, you know, punishing you for doing something that you feel like is bad, but it's not helping you, and it's not helping you feel strong enough to make good decisions moving forward. And there are always reasons why we haven't taken care of things or have struggled in the past. There's always extenuating circumstances or something going on or mental health stuff or whatever it is. So be really lovely and patient with yourself. The strength card also shows, you know, in a lot of forms of the card, um, a woman gently like tending to a lion. You have to be really, really sweet to your little lion and just forgive yourself for anything that has happened in the past, but do whatever you need to do to take care of your finances this month moving forward, and you'll feel so much better for it. Yeah. Get responsible. Yeah. And it'll feel good, and you don't have to do it alone. And you can even call my bookkeeper if you want. I we we have all the information. Then

Outcome Hanged Man Perspective Shift

SPEAKER_00 8:26

we have the hanged man as our outcome card. What we need to know for general advice this month. How are you feeling about the hanged man?

SPEAKER_01 8:35

It's just another, like, what the hell is going on? So for the outcome, like basically you need to stop spending time and money on things you think are gonna make you happy, and in the end, they don't. The hanged man is basically change your perspective and ultimately stop doing something that you're doing, like legit change your actions cut similar to the other ones. Like, you really have to take a step back, and that's required for every single situation. Like, don't get so emotionally involved, don't take it personal, like allow yourself to see, like, whoa, this person has some weird shit going on, and I need to pull back and figure out you know what what I what's the best step for me to do? Like, what do I need to do? Where do I need to go and look at things from a different point of view? And you are changing every single day. Like, don't forget that the hangman reminds us of that. Like, our views are changing, we're gaining more information. Our souls were put on this earth literally to grow, to have knowledge, to learn lessons, to experience the universe and each and every unique experience. And so let yourself do that. Let yourself grow, get out of your comfort zone, you know, take a step back, ask questions. Well, if they're angry, why are they angry? Why is there suffering? Why is there this? Why is there that? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Like, yeah, I love that. And I think that that's a beautiful thing about the hanged man that you pointed out, where we're really meant to stay in the present with this card and slow down. Yeah, it's such a big, like, pump the brakes kind of card. And, you know, the person it's hanging upside down, it's a huge perspective shift. And so if you're feeling stuck or if you're feeling like, you know, there's something that is making you feel blocked, or you're stuck in an emotion or stuck looking at the future or the past, this is such a good time to try to be here now and think about how to see things from a different perspective. If the world turned everything upside down, what would you see differently? We'd the world looks different to an eagle than it does to a goldfish, you know? And so this is a really lovely time to think about what perspective your state of being right now is offering to you. And I love what you were saying about stepping outside of yourself, and I think that's such a good idea. It can also be an interesting practice to reflect on our own actions and take accountability without shame, which kind of shame is my theme for today, I guess. Um but you know, the multiple things can be true. You can hurt someone never intending to hurt someone, and yet you still hurt them. It doesn't help for you to be mad because you hurt them when you didn't mean to. It helps to talk about it, take accountability, you know, see what kind of reparative work can be done if you want to repair the relationship. Or if you don't, then knowing that and stepping away and wishing the person well. And you might even be doing this with your past self, you know, like it might not even be another person. Maybe you just have to have a little grace and compassion for yourself and what has happened and your role in it, and then move forward from there because it doesn't help to be stuck in these heavy emotions that you know exist for a reason, but they don't exist to make our lives miserable.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Yeah, I really love that.

Forgiveness Boundaries And Safety

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Um because this card is making me think of it with the perspective shift and all of that. I, you know, also have abusers probably we all do, and abusers in so many different levels, and literally all kinds of ways sexual abuse, financial abuse, this abuse, that abuse, like you know, you name it, we got it. And um deep same, deep same. And I don't think anybody or everybody has to do this, but like I just feel like I have had such a weird like abusers I still have to deal with and see. And I can't even be angry at them because I've just started to look at people as so just caught up in their own personality or something. I can't explain it. Like I feel like even dark people, like they're very blinded by either their own self, and like you said, shame, like shame is that theme. Like there's this weird, they're ashamed of themselves, like they can't look at you, they can't be around you, like they can't even hold up their own selves or hold up their own head when they are going through things like that. And when I say going through things like that, it's just going through their own shame, you know, living in their own darkness. And yeah, like that forgiveness for me, like it came really, really natural, not when I ever wanted to or not when I ever expected. And it was like, yeah, nobody has to do that, but at the same time, for me, it's been like a weird relief. Like, I've been able to feel completely relieved now that I don't hold all this anger and resentment towards so many different abusers, I think, in my life, and it's really just my mindset. Bad people do shit all the time, and then like I just don't take it personal, and it's whoa, like I feel like my mind has gained a superpower or something.

unknown 14:11

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

It is a kind of superpower, and I know you work really hard on processing traumas, and you know, you're very spiritual, you go to therapy, and so you reminded me too. I had a client um a while ago who was really upset that they couldn't forgive their spouse for infidelity, and they were really mean to themselves about it. They were like, you know, people forgive, you know, murderers for murdering their children. Like, why can't I get over this? And I was like, well, they're not usually like living with and married to their child's murderer, like you haven't worked through it enough with this person, they haven't maybe repaired. Um we were asking questions. I was asking questions like, do you feel like there's been reparative action? Do you feel like you can trust this person again? And nothing really had happened. And I was like, well, if it if it hasn't changed and you're still trying to force yourself to be in this relationship where you've been hurt, yeah, of course you can't forgive. That's because it doesn't feel safe. But, you know, I know that you still have to see some of your abusers, but from my perspective, you're in a different um situation. You're not, you don't have to like live with them or anything. And so you actually have had the space to process that. And it's like it's so interesting to me because that inability to forgive can be um a safety mechanism, like especially if you're still feeling like you're in danger emotional or otherwise.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

I'm still affected, like, even though I have forgiven, like I'm still affected by certain people, I still won't trust a bitch if you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Yeah, no, you shouldn't trust, you shouldn't trust an abuser.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

No, exactly. Like, I still won't, and that's a really great point. Yeah, like, and even then, like, yeah, the forgiveness definitely did not come easy. Like, it's now it just feels more natural, where it's I don't hang on to the resentment, but I still have to protect myself.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Yes, yes, and I think that's something that I hear a lot where sometimes people think that forgiving someone means that you have uh the same amount of closeness with them that you did before, and it's like, no, you might never speak to that person again, but forgive something that might happen through your processing. And so, yeah, I mean the hangsman is so interesting, right? Because it's those kind of like sticky, like it's not black or white, it's gray. It's like take a minute to see things from all perspectives and then see where you feel like you fit in. It's asking us to have that nuanced take. You know, in no way should you be in any kind of close relationship with any of these abusers, and it's also profound and beautiful that you found some level of forgiveness, but that forgiveness is for you and not for them, and it's like it just kind of keeps going exactly.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Also, it's don't make the same mistakes again, let yourself grow. And that's something that I unfortunately I've had to experience that so much. Why do we go back to the same abusive relationships like over and over again? And when one person is just not, you know, not trying and not doing it, then you have to kind of wake up and be like, Okay, yeah, actually I can't do this again. And I remember just telling one of my close family members, I was like, You're gonna keep going back until you really feel like you're done. And that's how abusive relationships work. You know, we know what it's like. You get emotionally stuck, we know how that feels. Um, but we're here to tell you if you're listening to this and like if you do feel trapped, you will be able to go. Eventually, it'll just happen naturally. Like, you won't be able to handle it emotionally, mentally, physically, spiritually, um, for anything, whether it's family, relationship, whatever. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 18:01

Yeah, absolutely. And it's so normal also and encouraged, you know, to ask for help and support because there are some situations that are dangerous to leave, and that's a reality too that we don't want to gloss over. But it's so important to get help to do that. It's any level of abusive relationship is hard to leave. And I just wanted to acknowledge that there's gradations of that, but no matter what, it's a difficult thing to do, and it's so worth it. I mean, I wake up grateful every single morning that I'm divorced, every single morning.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

No, because you're so right. Once you go through it, every day is a damn blessing.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Yeah, it truly is.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

I love that you said that.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Thank God I'm not in a fucking abusive relationship.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Seriously, I open my eyes and I'm like, it's just me in this room, and that's amazing. Oh, what a delight.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Seriously. Man, that's the peace. That's the peace we need to thrive for.

SPEAKER_00 19:06

Yeah, and I think the hanged man is that interesting card too, because they have such a peaceful expression. And while this card might come up when we're feeling challenged, it can also speak to that peace that you have, or that comes over you, or that you work toward, or that you know flits by when you're just like, Yeah, I just have to be here right now, and that's all I need to do. Yeah.

unknown 19:29

Yeah.

Closing Thoughts Book Tease And Support

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Well, we really got into it this month. Um, what what a joy. I love recording these with you.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Me too. It's really nice. And um yeah, we're doing our best, guys. If we said something that you don't like or that doesn't sit comfortable with you, you're probably right and probably said something wrong, and that's all we could do.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Remember, neutral to positive intention, Reed. I think it's so funny how the internet can just people make wild assumptions. I can be like, my dog is so cute, and they're like, How dare you disrespect all the other dogs in the world?

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Seriously, who are just as cute as your dog. I I signed the petition for the Ewan Dog Festival to stop like a million times, please.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Like, yeah, we're doing our best. We're also working on our second book, Secrets of Romani Tarot. We'll have more about that later, but we just want to tease that out to you. And um, yeah, we're really excited.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Yeah, we're working hard, guys, so hard.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

We just wanted to let you know that we're doing this for you. We love you so much, and we're so tired. It's our joy and pleasure, but yeah. Yeah, everything is hard work. Well, you we hope that you have a wonderful month. And if you love us, of course, share us with a friend. Um, we always appreciate donations. They go right to our editor who does a fantastic job. Thank you, Victor. And um, and to any hosting fees, you know, to keep up the platform. So you keep us running, literally.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

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SPEAKER_00 21:17

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SPEAKER_01 21:38

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SPEAKER_00 21:56

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SPEAKER_01 22:06

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SPEAKER_00 22:16

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