Ep. 004; Was there Widespread Voter Fraud in the 2020 Election?

Andrew Bernstein and Bosch Fawstin defend freedom of intellectual expression and individual rights more broadly. They stand up as implacable foes of liberty's most egregious enemies.

This week, they host Attorney Todd Albanesi to objectively examine the question: Is there evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 Presidential election?

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all right are we are we live everybody hello everybody out there in uh freedom of speech land this is truth in politics with your hosts andrew bernstein that would be me and the heroic bosch fosten who's who's been standing up you know fighting the jihadists for for many years and we are taking on tonight bosh we're taking on one of the controversial issues of our day the question of a voter for this is a real controversy isn't it it is it is a forbidden thing today you know you cannot talk about it i mean i mean really can't so we'll see yeah even any number of objectivists will vehemently say there's no evidence of voter fraud and you know and and so on and so forth how dare you you know talk right right how dare you talk about this so we're going to raise that question we don't know uh was there widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election if so was it sufficient to swing key battleground states away from donald trump to joe biden therefore swing the election and to discuss this we have as our guest tonight a long a long time attorney and a you know solid objectivist i've known todd albanese for many years i know how incisive and and sharp he is and he's he's researched this issue in depth so welcome to truth in politics todd thanks for coming on thank you andy and uh bosh i'm honored to be here looking forward to a nice discussion with you all same here shed some light on some of the legal aspects so right right notice todd said y'all so we know right away he's he's italian but he's a texan italian right so yeah i'll even come back adopt it as my own yes yeah no absolutely texas is one of my favorite places if for no other reason than for the beef barbecue but yeah which is which is excellent but we we're objectivists here we take that seriously we want to try and and be you know as objective as humanly possible and you know i've i've taught logic for many years you know and and todd you're you're you're you're an attorney we you know we know evidence evidence evidence evidence we need to look at the evidence we need to go by the evidence so we're going to ask your boss and i'll ask you a series of questions and you know we'll see where the evidence where the evidence takes us now one question that comes up y'all are going to participate in the discussion too so yeah yeah oh absolutely yeah absolutely right this is going to be a free-flowing discussion so one question that occur you know comes up a lot is you know about about the malian balancing the you know the widespread use of of that voting technique that in 2020 did that make do you think that made it easier to to commit fraud uh and if so how well as as far as easier my understanding is that mainland voting is is content is considered inherently suspect everywhere it's applied except in the united states and uh i think that's a the truth is it's it's inherently suspect because it's so easily manipulated and subject to fraud as is as we believe i believe that we've seen in our past election what allowed for the explosion of mail-in voting in this case this time was the excuse of the covid19 chinese virus emergency where everybody needed to stay home and we couldn't go and stand in lines and we couldn't present present ideas i violate ids for voting as in the past and millions of people voted or supposedly voted or some people were making fraudulent votes and the net result of that can be a change of a national election and mail-in voting is is is subject to many problems especially when you don't require because of the covid fears you don't require even the minimal uh checking of signatures and photo ids that would would be done in most places for mail-in voting or is normally required even in the united states in the past for absentee voting let me you know i know but i i know bosh has had some questions let me let me uh do a follow follow-up question here is it true what would i what i've heard that in many states they haven't updated their list you know of of voters in in years and consequently you know votes were mailed well ballots were mailed out without people requesting them they were just mailed out to everybody on the on their list which included any number of people who had moved or who had died or were you know had moved to another state and were registered in a in in another state and so so that boats ballots went out willy-nilly and indiscriminately to many people who were no longer valid voters in that state is that is that correct alive moved out of state um and so on yes i think that's true updated is not technically right they're updated you know that some cases they were updated until election day which is a whole other problem it's not so much the updating but not the down dating a lot of those records should have been i don't know if that's a technical term but a lot of these records should have been purged over time for dead voters for people who have moved for people who have invalid addresses for inadequate information so they they being those who wanted as many votes as possible particularly for for biden i believe on the liberal democratic side they didn't purge votes like they should they accepted and allowed an extraordinary number of suspect votes while taking in anyone who would sign up with or without adequate evidence of who they are and are they uh in that person you mentioned state voters that's a particular problem we don't have a national voting registration so i don't know that there's any way right now under the laws to prevent a person from voting in all 50 states really just 50 states let me let me let me ask another follow-up time before bosh jumps in most people who believe that there was widespread voter fraud here believe that it favored biden uh rather than trump now why is that i mean if there's voter fraud why you know if if if somebody in my family died and i get the ballot you know that's still mailed to that person why can't i why didn't i just fill it out for donald trump why why do why why does all the people who almost everybody who believes in widespread voter fraud why didn't they think of favored biden i think the best evidence of that is is uh is statistical and the statistical evidence was just impossible swings for biden um the in the nature of the changes of votes i was staying up late last night not last night but on the election night into the wee hours and trump was winning by us landslide we could just see it on the charts and then all of a sudden literally within an hour or so they stopped counting in six key states six not the other states in this in these six states that became problem problems later on that had never happened before and well that's that's not a direct evidence that they're it's all for biden or swinging for buying but why in these six places it turn out then to be provided and then the proportions of the votes that were turned in are highly suspicious after that timing in that say there's normally a split of 49 to 49 point whatever percentages and then it swings to 90 in some cases for biden i think that is evidence of some foul play there's no batch of votes that would be likely to have a 90 plus percent uh vote turnout for buying no normal batch that would have that yeah that's that's a significant number i'm not talking 20 i'm talking 20 000. right right i know yes yeah uh why do you think the courts refused to hear these cases on election fraud i mean what what would you say the reasons that they gave and what and what you think why many many were procedural almost entirely procedural why the courts were not listening to these cases the basically i think that the the dems out fox the republicans on this they filed under the guise of covid in many cases to get the voting laws changed or at least under some kind of emergency basis to say we can't do this because of covid and the virus and it's not safe so the courts went along with that early on like in the summer before the election and then the republicans did not have a good ground game for defending it at the time so those court cases many of them at state local level went forward to changing the uh you know the restrictions that were in place under the state and local laws but the state laws and then the republicans and their attorneys didn't do anything about it at the time so some of these cases then were brought up after the election and one basis for pouring them out was saying well you should have brought it up six months ago why are you doing it now that's a procedural ground it doesn't mean that fraud didn't happen it's more of a criticism not necessarily an invalid criticism is why are you bringing it up now the time to do it with six months ago that's just one example of the way that the courts have been refusing to hear the underlying facts if you say hey you're bringing it up too late it doesn't mean you're wrong it just means you're doing it at the wrong time right are there are there any cases where the where the courts refuse to to take a case because because of a lack of evidence or or with all these cases based on all these rejections to hear the case based on procedural grounds um i don't know about none but i would say essentially all characteristically all the vast majority have been refused to be heard on procedural grounds you know as we're talking a little bit earlier the constitution requires a case or controversy and they have said things like uh well you're too late or there's nothing we can do about it now which is not a form of too late or they would say who are you to complain and know the most egregious of those i believe was the texas case which was joined by several other cases the supreme court in response to that said who are you texas to complain about how the vote was conducted in pennsylvania michigan or where else you weren't there you're not affected by that you have no standing you were not injured by that i vehemently disagree and vehemently doesn't add anything but my analysis would be i disagree with that complaints with that is if texas doesn't have a right to complain under the constitution that the constitution isn't being honored by a fellow state well then who does and the who matters here because what i think is misunderstood about the united states constitution and maybe i'm a i'm kind of unusual in this regard but i think the u.s constitution is is is often misunderstood as far as what it is fundamentally what the us constitution is fundamentally as between the original 13 states and later on texas and others is a treaty it's not anything more really than a treaty between independent nations and oops we have uh yeah we're having some technical difficulties here how about if um i have some quotes here i want to read maybe in the meantime while we try to get this fixed yeah yeah about the election fraud go ahead go ahead uh and our tech guy could see if you can fix the problem with with todd i read an article uh it was on front page from page magazine by uh john perrazzo it was called yes it was a stolen election and he wrote this here's one paragraph uh todd we lost you for a second buddy sorry about that okay all right um so so briefly i was i don't know if i got good i was just characterizing the united states constitution as a treaty and that into my mind as uh one of the members states texas had unique standing as a state as a country to complain about how other countries other states and under the treaty were conducting their election which then affects who is president of the members of that treaty it's a different view than most people have but it gives the states a unique and different standing than maybe you or i personally would have right right you know there are many honest intelligent people you know who i know who didn't follow this case you know the elect the question of election for as closely as you did todd and they see the courts refusing to hear the case especially scotus and you know i've heard them say well look you know the courts won't hear it you know it's got to be they they assume on you know there's not enough evidence and that and that's good enough for me i've heard that from a number of of intelligent honest people so it turns out that that's false from what you're saying that the courts did not uh refuse to hear this case based on a lack of evidence but on procedural grounds how did it become so do you have any any idea how to become so widespread so many people just think think that the the the k the courts threw the cases out on evidential rather than our procedural gowns how did that become such a popular view do you have any any uh insight on that i really believe on that that it's an attempt by the left news media to gaslight the entire american population gaslight is to make you you know to make you question your own observations your own ideas your own thinking and make something else seem true and your own ideas seem crazy from the old the old movie by that name right the the old that's where it comes right yeah yeah i think i think a husband was trying to convince his wife that she was insane yes and and you even like whether they can make 74 million people or so think they're safe they're insane but right no i i suspect i suspect you're right i i i just referred to them just as a matter of course as the lion leftist media i don't you know i don't believe anything they say if they told me if new york times or cnn told me it was hot in july i wouldn't believe them i mean they've been lying for almost 100 years you know the new york times going back to the early 1930s with walter durrante lying about the hello demons stalin and murdering millions of of ukrainians they're egregiously dishonest i think anybody who takes you know who reads the washington post or new york times or watching cnn or cbs news you know deserves the endless stream of lies they're going to get so i suspect you're right i suspect the lion left as media simply lied about it said that you know through these the courts through these cases out on evidential grounds rather than procedural grounds and a lot of dupes simply just went along with it i suspect you're right about that thought yeah sadly sadly and the you know the news is fair to say the court dismisses it but if you don't report why the court dismisses it you can twist that into almost anything you want it to me yeah there's there's dishonesty by omission right by what you by what you leave out rather than about what you but what you add yeah definitely different ways of being the same report on that on that texas case in particular it's a it was a lost opportunity you know it was a unanimous decision by all the the judge justices there to say there's no standing here but you know six million people can be wrong in my opinion and so can you know nine justices sure sure what was the vote by the way was it was it nine nine to zero okay okay i'm sorry that's it on a standing issue and uh standing by meaning does texas have standing is it in a position to complain i would have thought that this was there or not they never even got to the evidence i'm sorry to hear that i would have thought clarence thomas and amy barrett would have been more rational on on on this issue same here yeah the supreme court has tried over the centuries even to take a um a minimal role in what's called advisory position opinions they don't make opinions which they can't normally act on and there's some merit to that in many cases um but here there was in my opinion a case or controversy between states that it does affect people and the state of texas as to who is going to be the president under our constitution of the entire country and to to have dismissed it i think was was a mistake i think some of this just becomes they don't want to get involved in politics um that's uh they don't really regard themselves as a political branch in the same nature as the executive or as congress and that leads them to make decisions like we'll stay out of many of these things if we possibly can right they probably didn't like getting dragged into the 2000 election where they had a you know decide on the hanging shads and you know and and and that issue yeah you probably act us also is they won't i think it's a mistake in terms of of of how you sell your ideas or say what you're doing say chief justice roberts the chief justice of the supreme court is supposed to preside at an impeachment proceeding rather than say anything i mean speak you know as we say to a toddler use your words he just chooses not to show up and we have to supposedly infer what that means you know is you know is is is your diaper full are you hungry what's the reason for you not showing up you know so they honor the the concept that we're not going to give advisory opinions but they're supposedly only going to speak through an action that was an opportunity to speak and i think i'm not just a one that deserved to be addressed out loud and in words not just in actions that would have to infer the the meaning of that he should have said why he's not showing up at the impeachment to preside over that trial he would have had a huge impact on the nation's understanding as to why he wasn't there and it would have had a huge impact on whether proceedings maybe even went forward or not yeah and i think you're right bash did you want to ask a question or did you want to read did you want to read in yeah i don't read this one little paragraph and then i'll bounce off you todd you tell me what you think about this right just like this one person uh this job gianna perazzo from front page magazine he wrote years ago i think it was a 2005 a landmark report by the bipartisan commission on federal election reform known informally as the carter baker commission advised all u.s states that in order to guarantee free and fair elections they should increase voter id requirements minimize the use of billing ballots which quote will remain the largest source of potential voter fraud unquote disallow ballot harvesting by third parties purge voter rolls of all ineligible or fraudulent names allow election observers to monitor ballot counting processes without restraint or or obstruction ensure that voting machines are accurate in their tabulations and encourage news organizations to quote delay the release of any exit poll data until the election has been decided uncle and then it says all of these recommendations all of them were widely ignored in the elections of november 2020. every single last one there's a lot of evidence that that was true across the country in many places all most of it were under the excuse of the chinese flu right right yeah and you only want to have some take some issue with personally is exit polling and there is a freedom of speech issue there that's that's uh associated with that and the fear is exit polls that people who hear them later maybe in later time zones or in hawaii will say oh hell it's lost anyway why would i go and vote well i think the freedom of speech trumps that concern people still need to be able to make their own choices and be able to speak about what's happening and i don't think an election trumps uh freedom of speech we're getting a little off topic but no but that's a that's that's a good point i mean if if i if i want to vote for for candidate x and i hear that candidate y is you know is ahead in all these other states that doesn't that doesn't wipe out your my free will my choice to go still go vote you know exercise my right to vote for candidate x you know so you know i i get your point um the question i wanted to to segue to was about poll watches i've heard all these stories of pole watches being pushed out you're back too far to be able to see effectively what was going on or even banned from uh you know from the polling place and then there's that one incident in georgia where the videotape caught the you know poll watchers are sent home and then people drag out these suitcases i don't know what was in the suitcases were there ballots in those suitcases yeah evidence looked like it was they pulled out the suitcases they weren't technically suitcases from what later reports said but they were boxes or containers whatever they were pulled out and thousands of votes and were run for the machine that was shown on video as far as poll watching some of that gets into a point you're raising what does it mean to watch and they were relegated in these cases again largely under uh covert restrictions and rules of standing far apart from each other and don't stand so close to me and don't breathe down my neck to what poach election viewers from a distance we're going to see the scenery of this election if you're able just to see the scenery that someone is picking up a ballot and running it through a machine well what meaning is that as far as any kind of uh check on what is going on in there piece of paper was from run through a machine what was written on it so watching has to mean something more than that to my mind and they were denied that and there was another problem and it was that there were reports that there weren't allowed to be equal numbers of the two major candidates representatives or i don't know exactly how they're chosen it was something that's supposed to be 50 50 supposed to be a fair number of watchers keeping guide most many of the the situations were not allowed to be in fair numbers as far as the poll watching this another irregularity what was going on the statistical irregularities to me are the most damning that come out afterwards there was one that i just i don't know if you all heard much about but it's just one that struck me as is particularly meaningful in terms of the abuse that was likely to go on and it had to do with of all things someone went through the voting rolls nine million i think it was in pennsylvania for 9 million voters they come up with 500 000 of those voters have what's called unique last names in the state what that means is it was mr so and so or miss so and so and that was the only last name in the entire state of pennsylvania with that name and so if you look at someone a name like albanese in the state of texas well you'll find my my brother you'll find my parents will find at least one of my children still so you'll find five or six albaneses in the state of texas and it's it is true that occasionally you will have one last name a surname in a state as a unique name on all the voter rolls of 9 million but they had a staggering number 500 000 people who voted in pennsylvania who had no siblings no parents no children no nephews nieces whatsoever of the same last name in the state the numbers the my understanding is that the the statistical chances of that happening are astronomical far away and that lends suspicion to half a million votes just in pennsylvania as to whether they were valid or or real people at all and with mail-in voting no presentation of ids no no when they were doing the scanning of the signatures they were accepting error levels of matches that were also extraordinarily high it's supposed to be some tiny percentage and they were allowing through mismatches and they were allowing through huge numbers of those you look at the statistical evidence and it really makes you say where there is smoke there's fire and when you see billowing smoke it's probably a big fire this i this might be a good time to to raise the question about the the swan affidavits todd i know there were hundreds maybe even a thousand i don't know people you know who swore are you under oath with this which is serious business that they were eyewitnesses to to voter fraud the do you know do you have any insight on that or any information about about those not not in particular the weight the number of them is persuasive that again that's a lot of smoke but just the mere fact of how many witnesses there or statements were made doesn't mean that those were vetted by a presentation to a court but that takes us back to the initial questions has the courts even listened to any of the evidence for the most part the answer is no whether it's tens of affidavits or thousands or somewhere in between the point is no court has looked at that evidence and made any determination as to whether it is persuasive or not whether it meets the the the burden and the standard of proof required to show that there is voter fraud so what we're left with is an a great deal of smoke a great deal of suspicion a great deal of reason to believe that there may have been voter fraud based on what i've seen i do but it hasn't been vetted by a proceeding like a trial or other investigation can i ask you more questions yeah go ahead go ahead all the cough is just in terms of i read that some uh law offices some lawyers were basically discouraged they would tell you you you better not take this on uh you better not take on this issue you better not you better take on the voter fraud thing you better not help trump to you know today do you know if that's been widespread i mean across the country i did read about that fear of it and i think what the again we're to some extent we may be being um gaslighted on that and out maneuvered in the press because what's missing in that equation to my mind is i don't know whether it's 74 million republicans or 80 million or 65 million but the point is there's upwards of if not more than half the country by population it is not of the leftist persuasion in view and so to be fearful that we're that we're all going to be um what canceled by what half the population i could probably make my living somewhere in the other half yeah and the thing that's missing is a platform for the other half so now when when we lose some when we feel that something like twitter or uh youtube and facebook and these other organizations are not fair platforms are not there to allow a true public square which by the way is the basis of their immunity which is another question then we need to abandon those platforms as the frauds that they are they say here we are free and fair platforms but not really by their actions if they de-platform bosch fosten here because of his ideas for saying hitler is not hitler is that a platform only him only hitler's hillary only hitler is hitler sorry i was punished for you look at that and you say well that's not a platform what for for those uh 75 million people who disagree with that 74 80 i don't know the exact number doesn't matter for the point we need an alternative platform and the more that these um organizations exercise their censoring power and yes censoring even if it is not done by the government anyone needs to check in a dictionary notwithstanding some comments that may have been made elsewhere censorship can be done in a private setting agree yes um then we need to respond in the private setting manner which means find alternative platforms i signed up today with gab i'm not sure i'm going to go one parlor i signed up on me we and it also means that we need to pay for these services rather than be the product in a lot of them if we're not paying for the services then we are the product as the old adage goes and taking so much advantage of all this wonderful free internet product is leading us down a path where they control what's what we see and we they control it through advertising dollars and those kinds of interests excuse me i'm going on too long no no no no andrew yeah go ahead hold my punch all right that's one more thing you mentioned fraud in terms of these tech companies and they are engaged fraud i think they are i think when they call me dangerous and violent in order to uh de-platform me that's a lie i mean they're just completely like the rest of the world and they're smearing me and they're trying to you know disparage me whatever but i think in in this case it's just an observation more than a question in terms of i think the fraud was so it was fraud by a thousand cuts it was uh media fraud it was political fraud it was ag fraud all the uh all the um attorneys who actually tried to get these laws passed without going through the proper channels it was uh social media fraud it was you know on every level this and the fraud the the voter fraud ballot fraud the lecture fraud they all needed some backup by the others to continue the fraud they can't just i mean everything that has followed sins is part of the fraud to deny the fraud to smear those who bring it up to you know completely and to the point of you know vilify them to the point of even almost criminalizing them i mean they they said at one point that anyone who says that are terrorists i've actually heard that that they're terrorists those who actually go out there and talk about the voter fraud because that that will lead to some dangerous actions so i just just an observation in terms of i think it was a mass fraud on every possible level with the left you know i think you know you're right bosh i agree with with that um the it's a strange situation here it's it's it this goes beyond the movie gaslight i think it's much more um reminiscent or similar to the to the book animal farm and what we're seeing and what's going on in the in terms of uh these kinds of actions by the big tech and the question is you know are we going to accept it and by we i mean you me many individuals are going to have to act and speak up to counter this and refuse to to be cowed by the threats of being cancelled and here we are yeah that's right i mean i i've been appalled since the election you know by how many objectivists people like i your longtime friends people i respect i'm not going to mention any names but people have a lot of respect for they just you know their attitude is i you know i don't think there's any vote for it i don't see any evidence for it i don't think it's enough to swing the election it's it's uh you know somebody i i know somebody amongst prominent objectivist has to stand up and speak out not just on not just on this issue but against the left periods too many objectivists who seem to think that religious conservatives are as dangerous to individual rights as or worse than the leftists and that says flat false i mean that's not even close it's not even close i mean the religious conservatives are mixed case you know with a lot of bad stuff or with some good stuff but the leftists are monsters they're wrong on every policy issue except abortion i'm on my on my cell phone everyone on every policy issue they're they're authoritarians you know the cultural power they have the cultural power shovel down yeah they do and i got to tell you everybody out there in free speech land i don't love politics i love literature you know i'm a writer this is what i love more than anything else and i'm and i'm working you know i still i know i spend most of my time working on it i don't want to do a political show but somebody's got to somebody's got to stand up to the left somebody amongst the objective is korean's got to stand up to the left and you know and identify that as a in the left are monsters and that they're the most dangerous domestic threat the freedom that this nation has ever faced absolutely so that's that's hence you know this show was born and todd you're making my blood boil here with the you know with the with the courts because if you have people who've you know sworn under oath that they witnessed election for you know on an issue this this vital they need to be heard you know that this is this is sworn under oath they're putting their reputation out out there on the line this the courts need to hear that and and and rule on and and if we and if the courts don't i mean if we don't take eyewitnesses what do i know about criminal law or any type of law very little but it seems to me what i do know about epistemology and evidence if we don't take eyewitnesses seriously and voter fraud is a crime isn't it you know uh if we don't take eyewitnesses seriously as evidence then it's going to be very very difficult to prove any conclusion this is you know this is strong evidence and i said i want to call upon the courts anybody who listens to me take you know examine examine the evidence presented by people who swore under oath that they were eyewitnesses to vote for that's i'm calling upon the courts to you know to take up you know to take up those cases and examine that evidence because that's that could be very very powerful very compelling evidence and they're ca they're callously dismissed these fellow americans of ours they're like oh they don't give a damn for them yeah yeah whatever that's a serious thing that they're doing you're right they're putting they're putting their names and putting lives online under you know penalty of perjury they can be in deep deep trouble if they are if they're lying so there is that what's at stake is what was in the declaration of independence and that is the consent of the governed the consent of the governed is is is the basis for what how this country the united states of america was founded ultimately decade a couple decades later but the the point of the declaration of independence is the government is must have the consent of the government who is the governed it's the people collectively it's not individual you or me we don't have it's not an anarchist basis it doesn't require unanimous consent but it does require consent of the governed um and ultimately then to be as decided in under the u.s constitution the consent of the governed and under the united states constitution came up with the scheme of the electoral college which was a way of representing the governed of a multitude of several at the time of 13 different countries in a certain proportionality in that federal government and so this is much more important than whether donald trump or joe biden is president this is the governed issue and any honest american would be more concerned with whether the consent of the governed has been honored in an election then who won the particular election and i for one could accept joe biden as having won the election if it could be you know if we could put out all the fires this smoke looks like it's there right right and every honest american like you said todd should be concerned about this because if it's true then how you know what steps are we taking to make sure this doesn't happen again exactly what steps are we what steps are we taking to make to ensure that we have honest elections in the future now i want to ask a question about pulitzer you know uh jo jovan pulitzer who i believe is an inventor by trey claimed to hack into a dominion voting machine and in real time i think it was it was it was at a georgia investigation wasn't it and so it was connected to the internet now correct me if i'm wrong because you follow this case much more carefully than i do the best of my knowledge democratic party you know ranking officials in the party leftist intellectuals and journalists executives of the dominion company have all vehemently denied that that the the voting machines are connected to the internet and pulitzer claimed you know to hack into one and show that that it was that do you have any uh knowledge regarding this case well i mean he he appears to be an expert who appears to have done a study and his evidence appears to be worthy of being heard i agree with all of that and you know as to whether it actually happened i wasn't the expert and i didn't do it but he's a report it's available online it appears very persuasive to me and the only thing that i've heard counter that is no it wasn't that's the only thing that dominion and others who have said is it's not true to me that's not nearly as persuasive as a guy who says i plugged it into the internet and i could connect and here's my evidence for being able to do that let me show you how and now we can upload i saw another video from a lady showing how results could be uploaded to the internet for mass adjudication of you know changing the ballots for those that were supposedly unclear i think the evidence is there and why should a voting machine not be connected to the internet because the internet is full of problems you know from from viruses to manipulation to changing of data i don't think they should be connected to the internet no no i i agree with you i don't mean to interrupt but can we uh just about the show uh everyone who's listening if you can please get on youtube like uh push the subscribe button button notifications uh we really want the show to grow each episode this is our fourth one we're you know we're we're we're really enjoying this uh glad that todd's here we're taking on a subject that is uh considered uh taboo and uh we're gonna continue doing that week after week and if you could 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the truth here speaking of individual rights especially for freedom of speech which is in real danger from the left from can't from cancer culture in any number of ways that's and that's like you said by freedom of speech in the battle for freedom of speech that is the issue of our day that is it yeah and we will continue to stand up for free speech against you know bosh is a hero who stood risked his life against the jihadists on this issue if the religious conservatives want us you know cancel people who you know disagree with their religion or their nationalism we're gonna speak out against them too but the most egregious threat to freedom of speech comes from the left you know from the from the aoc mentality and and so yeah so i support us on on youtube and we're going to we're going to keep keep doing this todd let me let me let me go back to the job one comment up in the uh in the chat i didn't read it carefully because we were talking but there was a comment about censorship and uh they were disagreeing with me on on the definition or the nature of censorship and it could only be from the government i think that's a frozen abstraction of the common definitions in the dictionary and that censorship yes there is a definition where censorship is from the government a sense of the word that requires government involvement but in english which is the language we are speaking here censorship has another sense the work does not require government involvement for that and so yes i do believe that if we are clear about the sense of the word that we are using it can apply to facebook and youtube and others where they censor you from a particular platform then what you do about it is that legally permissible does it you know have other consequences can be discussed but the word is you know i i hear you taught it is definitely suppression of free intellectual expression yeah and it is and it is morally wrong and we our first show was on that issue we're going to keep coming back to it but i want to get i'm sorry and we can condemn that that's the whole thing people just recognize that well it's not government censorship so that's that no there is something to say you gotta say i condemn those who try to suppress are free i free speech i condemn them morally absolutely you know on their private property they have the political legal right to do it in the free country doesn't mean it's the morally right thing to do it isn't it is human life is the standard of moral value and free free uh exchange of ideas open debate this is part of the way we we gain truth and it advances human life and that's the that's the right thing to do and remember something irrational ideas are not defeated by suppression they're defeated by rational ideas false ideas are not defeated by suppression they're defeated by true ideas and that requires open debate and i want to get back to pulitzer uh so when i heard here i posted this on facebook on january third and i want to i want to read it here i heard that jovan pulitzer hacked into a voting machine to be used in george's upcoming runoff elections and showed it connected to the internet i asked an objective his friend regina monaco about the claims credibility dr monaco holds a phd in biochemistry from the university of texas and is a computational chemist doing research in neuroscience at the ronin institute in an emailed response she said quote yes i believe pulitzer has credibility in addition he is not the first one to demonstrate that electronic voting machines evm are demonstrably wirelessly connected despite all claims to the contrary by the machine manufacturers and government officials evms have been wirelessly connected to the internet in an unmonitored fashion since at least 2005. here is one link she sent me a link on pulitzer's most recent demonstration but if you look online you will find multiple proven reports of evm internet connectivity and access dating back over a decade and longer i t researchers such as as bruce schneer or schneider i'm not sure how to pronounce his name but he's a you know he's a security computer security expert uh white hat hackers and even evm programmers themselves have been writing about this and presenting evidence for years requesting this enormous security loophole be addressed all such reports employees have been completely ignored by authorities the only conclusion to be made is that such wireless access is there by design unquote from dr monaco um so it's you know todd you're the you're the attorney here i know i know criminals not your specialty but you know with a homicide investigators that deal with the murder they look for your means uh opportunity and and motive well uh this is this with with the voting machines connected to the internet and denied vehemently by democrats leftists and dominion officials is this opportunity doesn't really make much sense there's thousands and thousands probably tens of thousands of these machines they are computers essentially these machines they have scanner and computing technology and where you have computers you have software i'm going to be a software expert but when you have software you want to update it and how you're going to update tens of thousands of vote counting machine software without connecting it to the internet so it to me it defies common sense i've never had a computer that would last very long if i connect couldn't connect it to the internet so i fully would believe that these things can be is that direct evidence that they're connected no i haven't connected one of them myself to the internet but it seems plausible to me that this man is making a point how are you going to update the software if there's a glitch in thousand voting machines across the country or even the world you know well that right there becomes a security problem that we're all familiar with using everything from windows to cell phones why deny it so vehemently does that raise red flags to you the democrats the leftists intellectuals and media the dominion company executives denying it when when according to dr monaco this has been known since 2005 that well i think one reason they're denying it i think it's even against their contracts but just defies it defies common sense that for evms i mean there's an e in there that it's not connectable to the internet unless it's just nothing more than a tabulator for the hanging chad problem like they had in florida 20 years ago it's got software that they're going to need to update if they're going to use it more than one time and even if they're going to only use it one time there are many allegations regarding the software how it's updated was the last update certified according to the statutory regulations and blah blah but none of it makes any sense if you can't connect the machine to the internet no the denials certainly certainly you know a bit a big regular election and in many cases one interruption on that i'm sorry no go ahead don't go ahead the interruption is they don't want the machines to be inspected right right you're right right give give us some physical machines to the experts to inspect they did in that one case how about some more how about some different experts how about some experts to challenge that experts do you say it can't be connected to the internet show us how it can't be you know it's harder to prove a negative but show us well show us how show us how they're secure right show us how that's one of the obligations they have under their contract for providing the voting machines is my second hand understanding from the news but it entirely makes sense that such a general statement would be required in the contracts for such a machine i would think bash you i know you you had some questions yeah just something that's just quick off the top of my mind uh do you think uh todd the the worst candidate in presidential history my experience my uh has been uh biden i mean he was just terrible on every single level he couldn't even he wasn't sharp in his answers he couldn't uh you know he couldn't even keep a straight thought at times and he got uh the more votes than any presidential candidate in the history ever maybe there's evidence that he didn't receive that many votes not in terms of more it doesn't make sense that that um that biden got more votes than obama just from a visceral walking around common sense plausibility point of view right i mean he you know he couldn't get an audience you know um put together for anything there were groups of six people or they would have these rallies with 400 cars show up half of them reporters probably right it didn't make any sense there was no street and there was no there's no buzz for biden that's true but you have to play devil's advocate here i could say well there's a lot of anti-trump sentiment but right right or wrong there's a lot of people who hate trump but then you know i mean that's the question i don't know i don't know i need to put him over the edge of the most popular you know vote getter in the history of presidential politics because that's what he was that's what he is i don't believe so but you know now we're just in the realm of plausibilities and even personal biases which we have to guard against in those situations and that's why i think to go maybe to one of the first questions or original questions there's evidence that needs to be looked at to gone through and to secure the integrity of the election in the united states so that we do have uh confidence and consent of the government this is the first election that i've participated in where i have lacked confidence in the electoral process as such you know and and i think there's big problems with it and you cannot have people in in a republic walking around who believe that the um and many of them who believe that it's not a fair election yeah that's right but with biden winning if that was fair i wouldn't like it but i could live with it because the most important thing is that the winner is the will of the people in under our system of electing the president right that's the most important point by far this is not about trump never was about trump and now it's way too late you know to have trump as as president anyway this is to make sure that if i put it hypothetically if there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election that we clean that up so that future elections are are fair honest or you know as fair and honest as elections can be that's right and i certainly think there's a summary on that and and there's a point i didn't see the whole thing but i think the my pillow ceo has a put out a two-hour summary movie of this i'd seen a lot of the evidence beforehand so i didn't watch the whole thing but he made a very good point in the beginning there's a strange silver lining here and that is if trump had been had actually won this election we might not have learned of the voter fraud which i you know is painful to me is is uh my lack of confidence in biden as being on the left far more concerning is how we're going to clean up our the integrity of our election system and if he had happened to overcome it uh the my pillow ceo excuse me i forget his name michael dell is not like lindell yes his comment is well then we would still be subject to this the next go around and maybe no opportunity to clean it up and be even more unawares of the of the situation yeah you know it's a it's a not a very great silver lining but it is an important one no no i understand let me let me ask you a different question todd because a number of uh you know honest and intelligent people have said to me you know you pointed out the democrats except in the georgia senate race the democrats didn't do as well as they expected in the in the senate and house elections and so a question that that arises is if while they were able to steal the presidency wouldn't they have also been able to steal some of these senate and house races that they uh that they thought they were gonna win but lost so that's a that you know that's a fair question hard to look into the mind of other people and we only have the evidence some evidence of what happened after the fact so we don't know what the mind of the steel really was it seems to be primarily directed at the presidency and not at the uh intermediate level offices as much and one of the anomalies one of the evidence that there was of fraud in this election is this strange the number of votes for president only without down ballot voting the lack down ballot voting is extremely unusual most people when they vote will continue to fill out the form at least you know all republicans straight ticket or all democrat or maybe make some choices one way or the other you get down to some places you don't know the office you might leave them out the down ballot voting is pretty normal and common and one of the very red flags here that there was voter fraud was in many the the high numbers of no down ballot votes yeah many for biden with with no down down ballot votes but the question the question still you know comes up why why didn't they fill out the ballots for for senate and house races if these illegitimate adults it's like asking a crook why i cleaned out the front three cash registers and didn't get the one in the back room i don't know i know no i understand i i've heard the main focus was trouble if they can get him out that's they figured we got yeah you're right bosh they hate trump that's that that's plausible so well that's one point that's plausible also if you stop in the middle of the night and you need a hundred thousand votes for biden and you're in a hurry maybe there's not enough time to uh to get dropped we'll deal with that yeah that's that goes to your point that only hitler is hitler how many times have we heard that trump was hitler one of the interesting things here is that trump was an interesting creature he wasn't a political creature as we would define it being active in politics until he ran for the president and in some ways he is very naive now this is monday morning quarterback from someone who's not a politician himself but he's been criticized a lot for um not responding to this not being aware of the of the middle game i guess i would call it he had a ground game which would hold rallies and invite people like you and me to attend to his rally but he he had the range of all the intermediate republican offices from the dog catcher to the governor of texas and everything in between and all the different states he wasn't strong in that area and um in that in that range of the politics and that's where the votes are counted um is is by the by the legislatures those people making those kinds of decisions and uh i i think he was a little bit politically naive to think that he could win by a popular vote i don't necessarily mean that he wins the popular boat by numbers absolutely but through the electoral college and and not pay adequate attention to all these intermediate offices and steps it kind of ties in with your why weren't there more down ballot cheats on the democrat side right i just wasn't prepared you know you reminded me todd of that quote from uh joseph stalin you know it's not who votes that counts it's who counts the votes so you know i was gonna use that and then i came across something interesting regarding the fact checking and how that's part it became it becomes almost part of the gas lighting yes if you'll bear with me for just a couple minutes i'd like to see this this is from a website that purports to be a fact checker did former soviet dictator joseph stalin say that in a general election it does not matter who votes but what matters is who is counting the votes and then it goes on into this according to the oxford quotations he never said that what he said was a quote i consider it completely unimportant who my emphasis added who in the party will vote or how but what is extraordinarily important is who will count the votes and have so then they say fact checkers he never said that he never said that in a general election that's not the point the point is it's important how and who counts the votes it is immaterial to the point of the quote as to whether it's in a general election or at party headquarters of the communist um whatever you call that entity over there or the ccp it really matters how and who was counting the votes and to that extent a dishonest dictator cares right right so i just thought it was a teacher teachable moment when you look through the fact checkers and how they will fact check to try to discredit the whole point of the quote it seemed to me as not being true right a trivial and immaterial difference between right go ahead go ahead bash i know you have uh yeah i guess todd's uh he's frozen um maybe oh tech guy um let's see i just uh i was gonna talk about what todd maybe we could just discuss like if there's been fraud if it was mass fraud if it was stolen flat out what do we do from here on out what do we do and who will do it because the fact is the left won't do it because you know they got away with it if that's if that's if that's what happened right well the right do it and now the right might do it in order to win elections meaning we can't have voter fraud because i don't want to lose you know i don't want to lose presidency on voter fraud i want to win so even if that's their personal motive even if even if it's a pure self-interest and get getting power will they do something about it i think the young guys like josh hawley uh trump uh sorry uh cruz maybe even desantis might go all in and try to fight this to death and try to get basically uh the uh get it fixed for that yeah it's certainly possible and um uh josh hawley as bad as he is you know in in so many ways if he if he stands up if he if he stands up on you know on on this issue you know that would you know that would be really good i would be the first point to do that he was the first one to do that yeah my point that as bad as the religious conservatives can be and joshua is if i remember correctly he said something like the united states is a nation under jesus christ or you know something like that i think so i don't don't quote me on everybody out there in freedom of speech like i could be wrong but i vaguely remember joshua saying right but uh so you know if that if put it hypothetically if that's the case that's pretty horrible but still the leftist is the is the site pushing us towards towards communism and also the nature of the left you know let's talk about that also in terms of just the nature of the left i mean if we want to discuss that it's a little more vague it's not it's not concrete bound but it's just we know they lie we know they cheat oh my god we know they are it was a mass fraud with the media about the blm riots complete massive oh god yeah this is the peaceful protests every the covet they lie every chance they possibly can so just just a little thing the little aspect of they're fundamentally dishonest fundamentally honest oh god they hate the country they admire dictators so why wouldn't they do that i mean just on that base alone of course they probably would if they can get away with it of course they would try to steal you that's just one little observation especially given how much they hate trump that's the thing get them out and cut them out and that's why even the non-leftists who hate trump they're like you know what i don't mind the outcome of this election so i'll just say there was no fraud whatsoever even though they must be suspicious they must themselves know this is not this smells i mean something here went went really bad but they don't get they don't they don't care to investigate it because they got the right result right because trump yeah and i think i think the last point that we should discuss with todd tonight before we sign off the air is where do we go from here how can we how can we if again put hypothetically if this election was stolen and seems to me there's a lot of evidence to support that claim uh how do we clean it up i think that's the last i think that's the last question what should we do right right and i wanna i i wanna um bring up a related point here because i'm looking for something on my on my that i posted on my facebook feed here it is uh because you know we're objectivists and ein rand taught us to integrate see the big picture go as broad and as wide as you can does this truth integrate into a whole you know system of knowledge and you know look at the democrat history it certainly integrates they are you know they control for decades if not centuries you know the corrupt big city machines richard daly in chicago was notorious you know the the you know uh registered the dead to vote for john kennedy in 1960 you know vote early vote often mentality of the democrat big city machines going away back at least as far as boss tweet you know in in new york city and it's not just in the in the big cities this is what i wanted to to get to here um this is i posted this on facebook on november 22nd it's it's from maurice cobbs uh writing about u.s history and i double i double checked this and from other sources and and this is true august 1946 athens tennessee now i don't even heard of athens tennessee i don't want to everybody out there you know knows athens tennessee i'm not looking to denigrate this illustrious top but this sounds like a small town to me it's not nashville knoxville memphis you know listen to this august 1946 so just a year after the end uh you know after vj day right after japan surrendered and world war ii was over the citizen of athens tennessee staged an armed revolt against their corrupt local government people had long been outraged by the local democratic machine headed by boss e h crump which i love the names these guys have boss tweed which maintained power through graft and electoral fraud and used the local sheriff's department as a tool of oppression and brutality the machine also kept tight control over the region's newspapers and its grasp extended to every part of local government said one veteran returning from world war ii you couldn't even get hired as a school teacher without their okay or any any other job the sheriff's department routinely rousted returning gis and hit them with trumped-up fees and fines to steal as much of their pay as as as possible so that you know the the the world war ii vets didn't get any help from from state or federal government so at some point uh the people had enough a group of veterans and other citizens gathered and uh they had a shootout they shot it out with the with this with the sheriff's department you know and then who finally you know it was all it was over election fraud the you know the the corrupt democratic machine had stuffed the ballot boxes and they were hiding it in the in the sheriff's office and the the vets who you know knew how to use guns and stuff and this is tennessee anyhow aha you know besieged the the sheriff's office had a shootout that went on to the middle of night finally the sheriff and his deputy surrendered they turned over the ballot box and sure enough have been stuffed with phony votes and so you know the gi candidates uh won the election um but this is uh this is the democratic machine in athens tennessee now you know they're notorious for for corrupt corruption and government in the big city chicago uh is is you know is a notorious example so this integrates you know if if they uh control the big city machine in philadelphia which they do and in detroit which they do and in milwaukee which they do they're certainly capable of you know adding uh thousands and thousands and thousands of illicit votes to the count they've done this in the past so you know if if the claim where the republicans you know stole the election with you know not impossible certainly you know could happen but and there may well have been cases of republican corruption in history i'm just not but i'm not aware of them they historically the democrats have always controlled the big city machines in the big city is where there's most crime and you know and and you know and corruption so that so that integrates and then secondly the worst thing of all the democrats today are not just corrupt they're moving towards communism you know the bernie sanders mentality dominates that party aoc is a little mini clone you know of of bernie sanders you know she she's the future of the democratic party according to tom perez you're the the chair of the of the dnc the few she's caught she openly calls for lists of political enemies she wanted you know some government agency or investigation to reign in misinformation on you know what in the you know in the media she's a complete authoritarian she's the future of the democratic party which i think is true they're moving towards authority they're already authoritarian they're moving towards totalitarianism i was having this discussion with a prominent objectivist philosopher the other day i won't mention his name but i have a lot of respect i mean you know i said within 10 years the democrats are going to be communists you know aoc is going to be a communist he said something like no i think within 10 years aoc will you know will call for the nationalization of certain industries it's all right 10 years she's going to call for the nationalization of certain industries so maybe my timeline is off by ten years maybe it's only 20 years before they'll they'll maybe it's maybe it'll take them 20 years before they're ready to abolish all private property now 2021 look at the third well just let me finish this point i'm almost done uh so they're moving towards communism that's much worse than just big city corruption they're evil you know they're not capable of stealing an election so you know the the data here integrates on a much broader scale with their corruption and with their move towards totalitarianism so so there's you know it it does fit it it fits who they are i'm sorry pascal no no no no sorry you're fine uh like decades ago look at them decades ago look at now look at how far they've pushed the country how far they've forced the country left you know they tried the socialized medicine now even even uh biden has gone quote unquote you know more radical i mean look he was he was always going to be a tool always going to be a puppet of the left we knew that right he said oh he's a moderate you know it's fine to vote for no because he's not being led by himself he's not he's not the bernie sanders mentality dominates that party and they that's their puppet so gun control now this the uh the the the transgender sports you know he's doing everything the way obama did just pushing it shoving it further left it possible that they can do it and that's what's uh and you're right the the nature of them they lie they cheat they are you know they're there's criminally dishonest i mean they really are from the media on it is complete utter 24 7 fraud so i agree or of course they would do that if they can get away with of course they would they would still election that's the whole thing of course they would i have serious doubts about um about biden's mental competence at this stage he was disqualified in an earlier presidential contest by his cheating in college and so on but now that now the people were that was suppressed largely as plagiarism in his dishonesty and i think unfortunately you know the problem with that is do we want kamala harris to replace him that might even be worse right oh well she's she's part of the bernie sanders ilk you know that that socialist let's go move closer and closer towards communism mentality that dominates the modern democratic party they've trended in this direction for decades but it's accelerated with bernie sanders growing popularity and you know it always goes back to the educational system right the educational system and the humanities you know the public schools the humanities programs of our universities for the most part do not educate they indoctrinate they have millions now of what they call snowflakes you know of people who've been indoctrinated with leftist ideology and and they're they're socialists and and you know they're they're fine i think you know with the with the left is pushing us towards communism and they'll vote they'll vote for it so uh you know it's it's it's very scary um but uh yeah before we get to the to the final question that i think well there was a question i'm not sure we got to you guys what to do about it yeah that's that's the final question i think it has to be final and but i have i have two basic thoughts after digesting go ahead on this and our discussion is is the first we need advanced voter registration we must have advanced voter registration roles they must be updated and they must be reasonably verified they're going to be absolutely perfect but they need to be reasonably verified that the names on those roles are people who live in that place and and so on and i i would even support a national voter registration system which before this i might not have but i would do so on this ground because i think we've got a lot of people who are potentially possibly voting in multiple states that's one of the forms of fraud that can go on i don't know if you could do it in all 50 in territories but i don't know that there's any mechanism for actually preventing that in place right now why couldn't i have a p.o box in 50 states and so i think we need that and i think it needs to be cut off a reasonable time before the election day so that those can those voters that role can be solidified and passed out and at the local stations for for use not updated at the moment you walk into the poll and the other is i think we need to abolish virtually all mail in voting i don't mean every last instance of it because there are going to be circumstances that people are being overseas in the military or on the space station or whatever that have um you know legitimate needs but those would be subject to some fairly rigorous you know notarizations or what have you that would be substantially equivalent to a person showing up at a poll and showing his id his or her id and those are the two things that fundamentally i think would need to be done to address the integrity of the voting system and get a situation where a hundred plus million people can come together a certain day and and and make their consent of the governed known right i agree with you thought this ain't rocket surgery you know as they say this is uh this is a resolvable problem and kovid may be with us for a long time like the flu is but we have vaccines which will i think will help keep it under control and then we can have election day not election month right you know we have we have have election day and like and like you said uh it's it's absolutely rational to have you know valid idea come in with my driver's license or my passport whatever have you know have have valid id to you know to register and vote i do it in person and we have to make sure that the that the poll watchers are permitted to watch so i mean does that mean that we need the local sheriff's office or the new new york city police department in new york city or the you know bring in the state troopers or the national guard whatever we're not talking about martial law here we're just talking about watching the polls to make sure that the you know the poll watchers are you know are able close enough and able to watch and then when election when the polls close at eight o'clock at night whatever the national guard goes back to you know to their their headquarters uh you know with the state council i don't know that we needed the national guard but somebody to over overwatch this to make sure this whole watches aren't pushed up or if they're allowed to do their job but that's what i'm saying the allegations the allegations were the poll watchers were being pushed out so we need some kind of police presence just to make sure not to not to have a police state that's just to make sure that the poll watchers are allowed to watch and then when the polls close they they go back to the police one of the problems we have here is is is the the constitution and the laws aren't self-edu self-self-enacting self-acting you know they're they're they require that we the people stand up and value these procedures and these principles and one of the challenges i think in our broader society is i don't know that we the people collectively characteristically are voicing our insistence on election integrity and expect a few police officers or the national guard or a few poll watchers to do that for all of us we have to do it collectively as a people we have to value the system we have to value elections and and what they stand for in selecting our our representatives and our leaders and unfortunately one of my concerns is we don't get real busy in the education business a lot of the people out there don't right right and you know there's two there's two you know there's there's two points i want to you know reiterate one is you know we we covered it already about the swan affidavits and i want to appeal publicly to the courts take this seriously investigate this hear the evidence these are people who you know put their reputation on the line their reputation at the very least by swearing under oath that they were eyewitness to voter fraud or some kind of voting irregularities this evidence needs to be investigated it needs to it needs to come out you know and then in the courts or if not in the courts then you know in in congress or in the state legislature somewhere this needs to be examined and be made public that evidence has to be looked at or we'll never know we'll never know the truth um even though i'm a lawyer i don't really believe that the courts alone can solve this the courts alone are you know they have to express at some level what the people want at large and we can't have a dictator by the dictatorship by the courts either whether where the courts are running off and doing what the people don't want and i say this advisedly i say this the people have to want an a fair and honest election system and if the people largely don't want that they will accept not having it and we need public outrage a lot of it over what happened in this past election we can't expect a few people in black roads to save us from it now that's well said todd and bosh you remember last week when jason hill was you know dr jason hill from the philosophy department at depaul university he's a fire brand you know and he was talking he was you know making it making a similar point that the american people need to stand up and have their voices heard against the outrages and the endless dishonesty and evils of and depredations of the left and we need to stand up you know for rectitude in in voting and one thing that could happen uh um is that the democrats are are so evil i mean they're just the like i said they're pushing the country towards communism they're so much worse than the republicans it's very possible we'll see if the if the elections are remotely on it's very possible to see republican landslides in the in the midterms like we saw in the two obama midterms 10 and 14. you remember obama said after the 14 midterms that it was an ass kick it was his way and you know and it was we could see that kind of ass kicking in 22 and now with the republicans in control of both houses of congress uh call for that investigation right uh you know that that finally you'll do not that's gonna put trump back in office trump's finished but we know but we'll find the truth uh and and then put in the kind of safeguards that we're that we're talking about you know to to clean up the elections in the future and you're right todd i think i think the republicans in one of the issues they should campaign on in 22 to you know to reach the american people is voter integrity keep keep the you know keep the rectitude in the voting process keep the trust in the voting process the democrats won't do it we'll do it elect us they don't need that many that many seats in either house of congress to to take the majority and then investigate this and i have a open congressional hearings and actually hear the the hundreds or however however many eyewitnesses there was who have signed sworn affidavits actually hear the evidence in open you know testimony cbs news and new york times won't cover it but hopefully there'll be some you know uh maybe you know maybe fox news won't go all the way to the left maybe fox news will cover hopefully somebody you know the leading conservative papers washington times you know people you know the wall street journal publications like that will will cover it newsmax hopefully you know some put it out on social media hopefully by then have private platforms you know have platforms with private servers and get the news out get the word out uh you know about what these eyewitnesses actually witnessed what they said and let's let's clean this mess up uh make sure that they're outraged out there yeah listen with the goals but one of my favorite quotes is ben franklin's it's you know an answer to a question about what form of government did you give us and and it's you know a republic if you can keep it it's you can keep it that means you and me it doesn't mean the supreme court can keep it right so we it comes down to the american people is who he's talking to um 200 and some years ago it's a republic if we can keep it and we have to keep it and that means a lot of us not just a few of us or the courts i'm a lawyer i think the courts have their role but the courts cannot stand against the the multitudes and that's not even their job at the end of the day and the constitution won't is not self enacting it won't stand up for us we have to stand up for those ideas right are you that you're right todd if the american people stand up like that we could win the uh the 22 elections not just republicans you know who who generally are less bad than the democrats but there are there are some people in the democratic party who who i think think are rational or some semi-rational i respect tulsi gabbard i don't know if she's even going to run you know again but you know tulsi gabbard i think is uh is a is an honest person and you know uh joe manchin from west virginia to you know just to to some extent right mitt romney sometimes i'm sorry yeah yeah right yeah could elect democrats who are not leftists you know pretty much for the most part today to be a democrat you have to be a leftist uh but that's not necessarily true at tulsi gabbard and joe manchin were both elected to prominent offices without being leftists may be able to elect you know honest rational democrats who want to clean up this this dishonesty and the you know in the voting process also but if you're right it comes down to the consent of the governed the the moral outrage of the american people and elect candidates who promise to investigate uh have full and open to the public congressional hearings uh and investigate what happened in the 20 presidential election and if it turns out there was massive voter fraud clean it up take the steps to clean it up would you say also like we didn't know what hit us so we're just getting we're gathering ourselves now and eventually that kind of revolt that kind of uh you know kickback would actually happen i mean because right now again we did we didn't know what hit us and media has lied since day one since november 3rd everything is good everything's fine shut up and that's it yeah so i think a part of it is that i think we just didn't know what hit us now we're going to deal with it and i think eventually especially in the midterms i think there will be there will be some kind of revolt because it can't go unanswered it can't it's impossible they there was there are too many millions of americans who believe it was stolen too many it just can't go you know oh okay we'll just give up you know we we won't do that we won't i don't think so every honest american should stand up for the integrity of the system i don't care what party you're on yeah yeah well said todd and uh i want to you know make a commercial announcement you guys out there in freedom of speech land if you like this show and what we're doing and next week we're going to be discussing the the uh climate change global warming issue and you know unreliable energy sources we you know we have a lot we're going to discuss we have a hero right here on the show bosh foster who's risked his life to stand up 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by what was it a hundred thousand here it was just it's too obvious they were too obvious in their theft you know and it was just literally overnight they stole it and uh they can't get away with it they just can't get away with it they can't now people say well you didn't yes but it has to be found out has to be proven and then we got to deal with and then once it's proven the democratic party will probably lose to you know in terms of any kind of trust they have a you know they have very little trust now i mean you know they don't mind like letters don't be my don't don't mind being lied to by their fellow leftists in politics they don't they don't give a damn they just want to get power but i think the bulk of america were like you know what this party stole an election that will stain them for you know for a long long time it just has to be proven on record in the courts and the and one thing also today the supreme court was that was gonna decide uh if they want to proceed with three different uh election fraud cases i don't know i was checking during the show nothing has shown up yet but supposedly today was was was when they make that decision so we'll see we'll see right right i would guess and i hate to be in the business of predicting the future but i expect they'll dodge them you think i wouldn't be surprised i wouldn't i think there's a lot of cowardice there i think cultural cowardice i think because it's moot as we mentioned earlier but you know we have to express the outrage over the system so that the system can be changed and it doesn't happen again now you're right i don't know what scotus will decide but you're certainly right we need the outrage from the american people from the voters and and win decisively the 22 midterms not just republicans but honest democrats elect people to your both houses of congress who will promise and deliver on open to the public full investigation of the 20 presidential election with all those people who swore you know affidavits would sign them under oath who can openly testify publicly get to the bottom of this and if there was massive voter fraud that swung the election clean it up you know in the way that that you suggested todd that's that's what's necessary it comes down to the consent of the government you're absolutely right that we the american people it's our responsibility we have to stand up we have to have our voices heard on this yep and they did get away with it you know you're right they did get away with it but the point is to to basically prove it to prove it and i think time will the truth will out i think the truth will out yeah i mean we found out there was a lot of smoke i was only a kid in 1960 but there was a lot of smoke around that election you know that richard daley you know stole it for john kennedy in chicago many years later alluded to it in 1973 i believe that that nixon just laid down for it and she she thought that was criminal for him just to lay down for that she she figured that you should have fought for it you should have yeah it should have been an investigation in chicago um but yeah evidence came out you know years later i i think daley died in 1976 maybe and the evidence came out you know of of his illicit activities and you know but but to the front we have a number of states all these you mean it's not just that one state it's not just one little isolated it is across on multiple states yeah it would be it would be in philadelphia detroit milwaukee those are the key you know at least certainly some of the key cities where you would investigate for you know for voter fraud but the states that shut down in the middle of the night for several hours stopped counting votes what have we heard that and i don't ever have been watching elections never ever and that's that's if i correct me if i'm wrong todd but isn't that where you got these huge batches in those big cities we got those huge batches of votes where you just voted for biden for president and there was no down ballot voting which speaks to we have to hurry we're in the middle of the night we shut it down in the middle of the night we have to gain 120 000 votes to overtake trump uh it's yeah it's there was some bad justice some of those news of 600 000 90 plus percent for biden yes you know a bunch of laughter from the state that may have been pennsylvania i'm not sure where they were having hearings on it but it was laughable and should be both laughed at and we should feel outrage over it but that's not you know that's not a rigorous review of it that needs to be done by the courts or the people or investigative committees of various state congresses in the u.s congress and one of the jobs of the u.s congress under this what i characterize as a treaty of the united states of america is to guarantee to each of the states a republican form of government and i i would call on the united states congress to stand up for the republican is in the sense of representative form of government in those six states which was apparently denied to them by the fraudulent activities or what at least looks like with fraudulent activities i would say at least looks like it it needs to be investigated because that is one of the things in the treaty that the the the federal government agreed to do for each of the states and so there is in my view even congressional power to come in not necessarily supreme court power though they could speak an opinion or make some factual determinations that would be helpful for setting that in motion i think they should but the federal government owes to each of the states a guarantee of a republican form of government it's a rarely looked at clause of the constitution hasn't hardly been used since the civil war and reconstruction but i think it's applicable here all right then gentlemen i think that that's uh we can call that a wrap it's been a you know a stimulating discussion to to say the least and uh um i want to thank everybody out there i'm you know since your bosh foster is absolutely right that the battle for free speech is the the struggle of our of our day i'm going to keep you know addressing our people out there in freedom of speech lands who who uphold freedom of intellectual expression against any and all commerce and recognize the main most egregious enemy here is the left so uh you know i hope uh hope you guys like i said you know watch this on youtube uh subscribe to our channel share it uh you know like it you know and everything next week yeah we're gonna given what happened in texas and i hope you escaped i hope you escaped this debacle uh taught up in in north texas i i saw temperatures in houston that i was just i've never seen in my you know in my life it was like a single if i remember those are like single digits in in houston some good old global warming you know um but uh given the the that you know that that news the story is is huge it's hot and cold uh i want to discuss the climate change issue i published essays on it um i you know want to discuss climate change when you know global warming and this unreliable energy you know that the environmentalists left this are pushing on us so that's that'll be the topic for next week and by the way speaking of freedom of speech bosh and todd there's senator sheldon white house from rhode island democrat of course you know several years ago uh was talking about wanting to what was it what was he wanted to bring criminal charges was it against you know against companies uh that that denier criminal it was white house was involved uh in it and then there were those state attorney generals against you know a state attorney attorney general's for i i forget sustainable energy or whatever the name of it was but anyway the upshot of it was they want to bring criminal charges rico you know uh you know the racketeering charges against private individuals and or private companies who denied you know man-made you know pernicious man-made woman from rhode island and of course a number of state attorney generals or the overwhelming majority whom were democrat i think one was independent but again the the the left has no respect whatever for freedom of speech and freedom of intellectual expression they're giving racketeering charges against you for denying pernicious human cause warning so you are right boss this is the issue of our day and we will hit it again next week in a in another form we absolutely will todd thanks for uh you know coming on i'm really good thank you so much it was really really good i really thought it was todd it was great that you know it was great talking to you as always take take care buddy bosh have a great night thank you thanks everyone for listening really really really appreciate it just share it please and uh subscribe and you know notify yourself and shows and just comment as much as you can we would really appreciate it yes we will we absolutely appreciate 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